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George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 03:43 PM
Well since there's a Rare Babe Ruth picture thread, I've decided to make a Rare Ty Cobb picture thread.

Masters Invitational Golf Tournament: Augusta, Georgia: Ty with Bobby Jones
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/augusta/images/christian/6.jpg

Ty against a White Sox team, 1907-09.
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Ty_Cobb_Biography_2.jpg

Ty Cobb sliding towards Frank Baker of the Phil. A's, 1909-12
http://www.umass.edu/pubaffs/jackie/cobb.gif

Ty Cobb with a dog: At home in Atherton, CA, February, 1953
http://www.spirit-wrestlers.com/photos/1953_Ty_Cobb_sm.jpg

Ty Cobb teaching the art of swinging
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/adc/10120897A.jpg

Ty Cobb posing: 1910
http://www.qualityautographs.com/item.pics/medimg/cobb_ty_baseball_mag_photo.jpg

Ty Cobb and Lajoie: 1910-12, Bennett Park
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbLajoie1909_photo.jpg

Ty Cobb and Navin: April 25, 1913: Ending his holdout and signing with Frank Navin.
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbNavin_photo.jpg

Eddie Collins, Lena Blackburne, Ty Cobb: 1915
http://baseballrubbingmud.com/Lena%20Ty%20Eddie.JPG

Ty Cobb with a young fan
http://www.tycobbhealthcare.org/museum/ty2.jpg

I'm sure Ty Cobb experts has already seen all these pictures, but I still wanted to make a new thread about it. Hopefully you guys don't get mad me for doing so. Hopefully you enjoy them as well, because I sure do. I'm a huge fan of Ty Cobb by the way, second favorite player after Babe Ruth, which my grandfather saw both of them play, he's so lucky.

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:15 PM
Here are some Ty Cobb photos I've found.

1913

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/13500/13533v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:16 PM
Ty Cobb Day celebration, May 10, 1924, Navin Field. Detroit dignitaries presented Ty with a set of classical books.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11300/11306v.jpg
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11300/11307v.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-17-2008, 04:18 PM
Welcome to Fever, my friend. Ever see our Ty photo gallery? Ty Cobb Photos (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=28106&page=9)

Matter of fact, we have lots of photo galleries. Behold the wonders. This way to the Treasure Room.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Historical, Archival Photographs (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306)--- Pre-1900 Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41332)--- Negro L. Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41331)--- Brooklyn Dodgers Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41860)---Fever Member's Photos Gallery (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40925)---Runningshoes Presents: Photo Op (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=46723)---Meet The Sports Writers (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=57538)

Photos of the following individual players---Hank Aaron (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58318)---Pete Alexander (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54211)---Ty Cobb (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=28106&page=9)---Eddie Collins (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54920)---Sam Crawford (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=71637)---Jimmy Foxx (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=55628)---Lou Gehrig (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54351)---Rogers Hornsby (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=56377)---Joe Jackson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=33810)---Walter Johnson (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54344)---Nap Lajoie (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=72124)---Connie Mack (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=59240)---John McGraw (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68164)---Mickey Mantle (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=67997)---Christy Mathewson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=764312#post764312)---Willie Mays (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54723)--- Babe Ruth (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=21998&page=7)---George Sisler (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=960330#post960330)---Tris Speaker (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=38504)---Pie Traynor (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=37345)---Rube Waddell (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40628&page=5)--- Honus Wagner (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=13366)---Ted Williams (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58624)---Zack Wheat (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=682455#post682455)

Still, some of your photos are wonderful too, and we will be able to find good niches for some of them in our many galleries. Thanks for sharing such great shots, my new friend!!

Bill

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:18 PM
Ty Cobb, Detroit, and Joe Jackson, Cleveland, standing alongside each other, each holding bats, 1913

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3b40000/3b43000/3b43900/3b43970r.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:20 PM
Ty Cobb safe at third after making a triple, 8/16/24, Griffith Park.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11900/11955v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:21 PM
1917

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/24500/24555v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:22 PM
Ty Cobb visits Christy Mathewson, New York, NL during 1911 World Series.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/09800/09869v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:23 PM
FRONT:
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1400/1480/1483fr.jpg

BACK:
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1400/1480/1483br.jpg

Urbanshocker13
02-17-2008, 04:23 PM
Great shots of TY!! My god, Dosen't Cobb look just like his dog in that one photo!

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 04:25 PM
Thanks for the welcome William. I've been browsing these forums for a month before joining and I've read a lot of your messages, and you seem to know a lot about Ty Cobb. I wish my grandfather was still alive, he knew a lot about him as well, and I would of told him about these forums. I remember when I was younger he told me a lot of stories about Ty Cobb, he said that he was such joy to watch. He saw him play over 20 times, I'm so jealous. He took a picture of Ty Cobb at a game he went to, but his house burned down and all his baseball pictures got burnt down. It's ashame because they were incredible pictures, and I'm sure you guys would enjoy them a whole lot.

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:25 PM
FRONT:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/2000/2090/2098fr.jpg

BACK:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/2000/2090/2098br.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:28 PM
FRONT:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1700/1710/1711fr.jpg

BACK:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1700/1710/1711br.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-17-2008, 04:28 PM
Heaven. I'm in heaven! Where did you guys did up these beauties. I've seen some of them before, but never in such pristine resolution, or such enlarged size. Love seeing them enlarged, and without the usual distortion!!

Kudos to my new-found heroes!! Hope you guys never stop with these treasures. Ty Cobb Photo Gallery will now how a fresh infusion of much needed Red Meat! Umm. Yum yum. So good. Can anyone share the links to the Plunder Room? Pretty please with a cherry on top of the whipped cream??

Honus Wagner Rules
02-17-2008, 04:35 PM
Ty Cobb safe at third after making a triple, 8/16/24

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11900/11955v.jpg

Why are the left field stands empty? What team is Cobb and the Tigers playing in this photo?

EdTarbusz
02-17-2008, 04:49 PM
On Saturday 8/16/1924 the Tigers were playing in Washington. Going into that game, the Tigers were a half game behind the Yankees, and the Nats were in third, 2 games out. My guess is that the stands were empty because the fans were waiting for Sunday when Walter Johnson would be pitching.

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:52 PM
On Saturday 8/16/1924 the Tigers were playing in Washington. Going into that game, the Tigers were a half game behind the Yankees, and the Nats were in third, 2 games out.

Nice work Ed.

Here is another of the great Ty Cobb. Honus Wagner, Pittsburgh NL and Ty Cobb, Detroit AL, 1909.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3a20000/3a29000/3a29600/3a29628r.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:54 PM
1913.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/19100/19121v.jpg

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 04:54 PM
http://www.famousfoto.com/B156.JPG

January, 1950: Dr. Stewart D. Brown, with Ty at the opening of his hospital to Royston.
http://www.tycobbhealthcare.org/museum/cob4.jpg

Detroit owner, Frank Navin, conferring with his manager, Ty Cobb, 1921-22, Navin Park
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbNavin_photo2.jpg

http://www.newgeorgiaencyclopedia.org/media_content/m-1354.jpg

http://www.ebsventures.com/bbpast/bbpcobb002.jpg

With Tris Speaker at Yankee Stadium, 1950's.
http://www.davesdougout.com/photos/46Cobb.jpg

http://baseba2.fatcow.com/japan.1.jpg

http://baseba2.fatcow.com/images/cobbshawkey.jpg

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~oldnewspapers/11grit_10_20_18_cobb.jpg

Ty Cobb/Jack Fournier, 1914
http://quebec.sabr.org/photo_cobbfournier.jpg

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 04:56 PM
Here is what we have: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=533756&postcount=300
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/travel/detroit/buildings/tiger2.jpg

Here is what we were able to find. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=499521&postcount=62
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/TyAndWalter.jpg

With Judge Landis, about 1921-22.
http://www.wgallery.com/graphics/tycomhi.jpg

Here is what we have. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=660449&postcount=229
http://www.markreubengallery.com/bs_baseball/baseball_best/0060_lge.jpg

1928. Wearing a Phil. A's uniform.
http://www.recollectics.com/photogal/tycobb.jpg

http://www.josephwallace.com/books/autobiography/tycobb.jpg

On the Phil. A's, 1927: Eddie Collins on the left, Ty in the middle.
http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/wmaq/early_wmaq/images/hal_totten_comiskey_field_1926.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 04:57 PM
7/21/1910

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/08000/08008v.jpg

BSmile
02-17-2008, 08:49 PM
A strange variation on the Detroit "D". Not to mention, the D on his jersey is torn. Looks like he's sporting a black arm-band on his left arm too. ~B (The photo is 1921, and the armband is in tribute to Ray Chapman who was killed the year before. Whenever you see a team with that armband, it's 1921, probably.)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/Ty20Cobb20-201926.jpg

Second picture, an unbelievable assembly of HOF'ers at Toot's place in NYC including Ty. Could you imagine walking in there that day with a blank baseball for autographs!!
(This Hall of Fame shot must have been taken in 1951. Foxx/Ott were elected in 1951, and Arlie Latham died November 29, 1952. Also, since Harry Heilmann/Paul Waner were elected in 1952, and do not appear in this photo, it must be at the 1951 Cooperstown induction ceremonies.)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/tootsteam5B15D.jpg

BSmile
02-17-2008, 09:59 PM
Here's a picture of the watch that Ty Cobb received as a member of the 1908 A.L. Champion Detroit Tigers. This was in the days before rings were given. It came up for auction several years ago, I don't remember what it went for. Quite a lot I'm sure.
Oh, and Bill....if you've got correct info/dates about any of the pic's, I'm sure we'd all love to hear it in the spirit of historical correctness.
Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 05:11 AM
William go ahead I know your a big Ty Cobb fan and you've been studying him for a long time. I just hope that you enjoy the pictures that I have posted. I'll be posting some fresh ones soon as well, hopefully you'll them them as well.

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 06:11 AM
Ty Cobb advertised in the paper
http://bss.sfsu.edu/tygiel/hist490/19001918/19001918photos/tycobb/COBBAD.jpg

Very rare Baseball card
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/e121cobb.jpg

Ty Cobb with his teamates 1907
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-3.jpg

Ty Cobb posing with a Bat: 1913
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-16.jpg

Ty Cobb staring at someone: 1913
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-17.jpg

Addie Joss' Death Benefit Game, Monday, July 24, 1911
Here is what we have.---http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81
http://www.leaguepark.org/images/Joss_allstar_game.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 08:18 AM
William go ahead I know your a big Ty Cobb fan and you've been studying him for a long time. I just hope that you enjoy the pictures that I have posted. I'll be posting some fresh ones soon as well, hopefully you'll them them as well.
OK, George, I will. I am a huge Ty fan, and thought I'd seem bout most of his photos. But you've been able to find some new ones I'd not seen before.

It looks like the Library of Congress website, but I could be wrong. I've searched that site for Ty pics before, and must have overlooked some that you've found.

Also, the ones I found were smaller, and when I blew them up, they distorted. So, I am delighted that you, locke40 and Bsmile have found some new previously undiscovered 'buried gold', that had eluded me!!! You have certainly made my day. These and the rare Babe Ruth shots are a wonderful way to wake up! This is just so satisfying.

Any links you can share?

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 08:24 AM
Let me do some more research and I'll give you some links my friend.

Last night i've been reading a lot of your Ty Cobb articles, and there's some story's that you posted that I remember my grandfather telling me. Like I said in my previous message, I wish he was still alive, so he could have a nice chit chat with you, he's seen over 30 games of the great Ty Cobb, so he's learned a lot about one of the greatest ball players of all time. I was really young when he told me those stories so I don't remember them all.

I just wish his house never went down in flames because he had great baseball pictures and other valuable stuff of 1900-1930 around, one of the greatest baseball ERA. I remember him showing me a picture of Ty Cobb in one of the games that he went to see him, it was a close up of him, it was faboulous.

But when I have more time i'll find you more pictures and links for ya.

Can't believe I havent found this website earlier.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 08:36 AM
Yeah, Ty Cobb actually had a candy bar for a short while too.

1) Ty Cobb Milk Caramel Nut Bar Wrapper - circa. 1925

2) Advertising board for Ty Cobb Milk Caramel Nut Bar

3) Very rare previously unopened Colgan's Mint Chips (gum) Tin - circa. 1910

4) An ad for Colgan's Mint Chip from The Saturday Evening Post (from the era)

Enjoy! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 08:50 AM
Love you guys! Hope you never stop!! I'm insatiable.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 08:58 AM
What the heck....I found it, why not post it!?!!
Apparently from 1916.
~B

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 09:03 AM
Ty Cobb swinging, 1928, with the Phil. A's
http://www.aneuroa.org/assets/c20gfx/1920-gfx/ty-cobb-a.jpg

Ty Cobb staring down
http://search.netscape.com/search/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.detnews.com%2Fd n%2Fhistory%2Fbase%2Fimages%2Fcobb1.gif&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

Ty Cobb looking stunning
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/images/2007/07/16/kwBW4LnL.jpg

Ty Cobb with young fan
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/hughie/images/peach.gif

BSmile
02-18-2008, 10:34 AM
1) Ty with Ted Williams during Spring Training in Scottsdale, AZ - 1960. This was apparently taken before Ty swore to never talk to Ted again because of a comment Ted made about how Rogers Hornsby outhit Ty a few seasons. A must read about Ty is Al Stump's "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live".

2) Ty with Mickey in the dugout, 1960. Mickey looks a little nervous...Lord knows what Ty is teling him right there.

3) Finally, an ad for wine featuring Ty from 1940. Ummm....ok.

Cheers! ~B

locke40
02-18-2008, 11:00 AM
William,
I found all those Ty pictures from the Library of Congress website. They have a wealth of information over there, and it's all in the public domain!!

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 11:01 AM
Ty with compatriots Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach in the famous Detroit outfield which didn't get along very often:

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/2/18/f_veachcobbcrm_600f247.jpg

But they sometimes did!
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/2/18/f_cobbcrawveam_aa6fa6c.jpg

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 11:02 AM
A must read about Ty is Al Stump's "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live".


Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 11:16 AM
Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

For instance?

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 12:10 PM
Ty Cobb at a baseball game, chatting with Detroit owner, Walter O. Briggs, at Briggs Stadium, 1930's.
http://images.google.fr/url?q=http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image%3Fprovider_id%3D220%26size%3D550x550_mb% 26ptp_photo_id%3D500641&usg=AFQjCNFx95x1w3WWGf0uW6lBsTe-QRtXpw

Gehrig, Speaker, Cobb, Ruth: 1928
http://www.trisspeaker.us/images/4star.jpg

Carl Hubbell, Ty Cobb, Estel Crabtree,
http://www.redwingsbaseball.com/images/history/RWHOF/crabtreehonored.jpg

Danny Olson interviewing Ty Cobb
http://www.dannyolson.com/images/scrapbook/tycobb.jpg

July 27, 1941: Cobb, Ruth, Speaker:
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/659/205415659.jpg

1924 Tigers
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/base/images/tigers.gif

Ty Cobb and Nop Lajoie receive new cars: 1910
http://www.bos.frb.org/peanuts/sptspage/images/s6i.jpg

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 12:14 PM
Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

For instance?

Well, his story about Williams and Cobb having a falling out is disputed by Williams himself. Williams later said that Stump was "full of it" and that the invent described in the article was merely invented by Stump.

Stump says in the article that he spent the final 10 months of Cobb's life as his constant companion. In fact, Stump was only with Cobb for a few weeks.

Stump says that Cobb's funeral was only attended by three men from baseball. In fact, hundreds of people from baseball were planning on coming to the funeral when Cobb's daughter, Shirley, asked to have a small private ceremony and for no one to come.

Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 12:57 PM
Ty Cobb with some kids
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/3.jpg

Cobb signing an autograph in 1925
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/4.jpg

Ty Cobb picking up the hats on Labor Day
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/7.jpg

BSmile
02-18-2008, 02:02 PM
Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

Indeed. Stump's story, on face value, is quite a wild story. I would imagine there would have to be some shreds of truth to it. I'm mostly curious about what Stump descibes as an insane, alcohol infused drive through a snow storm to Carson City.

~B

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 02:26 PM
Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

Indeed. Stump's story, on face value, is quite a wild story. I would imagine there would have to be some shreds of truth to it. I'm mostly curious about what Stump descibes as an insane, alcohol infused drive through a snow storm to Carson City.

~B
I remember reading that story when it first came out. In fact, I have it in my files. It didn't bother me. Came out right after Ty died. I well remember Stump's description of that wild descend in a blizzard, from Ty's Lake Tahoe cabin, down that snowy mountain side to Las Vegas. Or was it Reno?

Why would a man who had been accepted by Ty into his confidances, as his friend, choose to portray a friend in such an unattractive way? Al stabbed Ty in the back for the small pittance of a magazine article fee.

That article made Al Stump an unwelcome person in the Cobb family circles. They all resented him and refused to talk to him ever again.

But that article is unimportant. Ty was dying as his cancer traveled from his brain down his spine. He was on pain killer medication, and was also alcoholic by then too. He was pretty lonely and took Stump in. But Stump didn't spend that much time with him. Certainly not 10 full months. More like a few weeks.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 02:27 PM
It, of course, should be noted that Stump chose not to share "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live" until AFTER Cobb had passed away...so we'll never really know what did or didn't happen during their time together (for the most part).

BSmile
02-18-2008, 02:31 PM
But that article is unimportant. Ty was dying as his cancer traveled from his brain down his spine. He was on pain killer medication, and was also alcoholic by then too.

Yeah, whatever the case may be, Stump caught Ty at a really bad time in his life...both physically and mentally. It certainly doesn't make me view "Ty Cobb - The Ballplayer" any differently.

~B

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 02:33 PM
It, of course, should be noted that Stump chose not to share "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live" until AFTER Cobb had passed away...so we'll never really know what did or didn't happen during their time together (for the most part).

That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

However, I view it as crappy in TWO ways. First, by publishing it after Cobb's death, he knew that Cobb wouldn't be around to challenge the veracity of the statements contained therein. Second, he waited till after Cobb died so the article would have more interest and thus make him a more popular person. Although I can't say that I blame him for the second one; that was just a clever business decision.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 02:39 PM
That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

Well, that's not the way I would view it. I don't know, nor will I ever know what happened during their meetings together. For all I know, Al could have totally made it all up! Seriously, I'm not on either person's side in this debate. Like I said though, it doesn't change the way I view Ty Cobb's magnificent achievments on the ballfield.

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 04:42 PM
That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

However, I view it as crappy in TWO ways. First, by publishing it after Cobb's death, he knew that Cobb wouldn't be around to challenge the veracity of the statements contained therein. Second, he waited till after Cobb died so the article would have more interest and thus make him a more popular person. Although I can't say that I blame him for the second one; that was just a clever business decision.
This isn't a debate on Al Stump's taste in publishing that article. His piece never bothered me in the least. But it sure enraged Ty's best friend, Taylor Spink!

Al Stump's article, 'Ty Cobb's Wild, 10-Month Fight To Live', appeared in 'True, the Man's Magazine', in December, 1961. It came out in 3 installments.

Taylor Spink, of the Sporting News, had just finished publishing a series on Ty, by Harry Salinger. Harry had died in 1958. Taylor republished his Ty series from from May 24, 1950 - July, 1950. in 25 installments from August to November, 1961.

And just as they finished, here comes this Stump article. Now Taylor rises to the occasion and fires up the presses!
And Taylor was perfectly positioned to do something about it. Taylor spent from August, 1961 to February, 1962, having many different friends of Ty to refute the many unkind criticisms that Stump had published. Taylor really rammed it up Al's butt with a red-hot poker. Below are just a sampling of the stuff Taylor published, in defense of Ty. Starting in early December, he ran off this pro-Ty series of pieces.


Jack McDonald - December 6, 1961, pp. 15, column 2.
JG Taylor Spink - December 13, 1961, pp. 3, 4, 14, 20 & 26. (shares letters: 'The Ty Cobb I Knew') (Part 1)
Fred Haney - December 13, 1961, pp. 14, column 1, & pp. 20 & 26.
JG Taylor Spink - December 20, pp. 11, 12, 14. (shares letters: 'The Ty Cobb I Knew') (Part 2)
Pants Rowland, Red Faber, Ray Schalk, Red Ormsby - December 20, pp. 14,
Sid Keener - December 27, 1961, pp. 11, 12, 14.
Wilbur Wood - December 27, 1961, pp. 14 (side bar)
Joe Cronin - January 3, 1962, pp. 17, 18.
Dr. Stewart Brown - January 3, 1962, pp. 18, 22.
Eddie Collins - January 3, 1962, pp. 17. (side bar)
Frank Baker - January 3, 1962, pp. 22.
Edgar Brands - January 3, 1962. (side bar)
Ed Bang - January 10, 1962, pp. 13, 14, 20. (Part 1.)
Del Baker - January 10, 1962, pp. 14.
W.C. Tuttle - January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 2. (letter)
Harry Hooper - January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 2. (letter)
Ed Bang - January 17, 1962, pp. 11, 12. (Part 2.)
Red Ormsby - January 17, 1962, pp. 12, 14.
C. William 'Bill' Duncan - January 17, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Joe E. Brown - January 24, 1962, pp. 11, 12.
John F. Steadman - January 24, 1962, pp. 12.
Al Schacht - January 24, 1962, pp. 12.
Danny Goodman - January 24, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Zack Taylor - January 24, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Fred Lieb - January 31, 1962, pp. 11, 12.
Babe Herman - February 7, 1962, pp. 7. (excerpt)
Ernie Harwell - February 7, 1962, pp. 11.
Steve O'Neil - February 7, 1962, pp.33. (side bar)
Jimmy Dykes - February 21, 1962, pp. 31. (side bar)

The Sporting News put out one side-bar after another, article after article. Taylor looked after his friends interests like a father. Stump's professional reputation took a huge hit as month after month, his credibility was shredded beyond repair.

Everyone challenged his motives. Everyone questioned why he would attack someone who had taken him to Coopertown, to Lake Tahoe, had paid his traveling expenses, picked up his meal tabs, etc.

Guess how many other sports celebrities invited Al to do work for them? ZERO. His sports gigs ended. Al waited 35 years to publish his next Cobb project. His book Cobb came out in 1994, and basicly picked up where his article had left off. He waited until most of his critics had died. Al was a class act.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 09:07 PM
William,
Thanks for the insight regarding Taylor Spink...very interesting....but now...
Back to some images!!!

1) Ty Cobb on a 1928 Tour of Japan

2) A really cool 1940's "See-How Movie Viewer" toy featuring Ty.

3) Very rare 1910's Ty Cobb tobacco tin.

Cheers! ~B

hellborn
02-19-2008, 05:02 AM
Ty Cobb advertised in the paper


That drawing of Ty looks like an English country parson from the 1800s...I have a REALLY hard time imagining Ty wearing a suit like that in public.
I wonder if "Royal Tailors" caught on??

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 07:55 AM
What the heck....I found it, why not post it!?!!
Apparently from 1916.
~B

Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 07:56 AM
Ty's last year with the Tigers. A strange variation on the Detroit "D". Not to mention, the D on his jersey is torn. Looks like he's sporting a black arm-band on his left arm too. ~B (The photo is 1921, and the armband is in tribute to Ray Chapman who was killed the year before. Whenever you see a team with that armband, it's 1921, probably.)
35899


Teams were wearing armbands in honor of Chapman at least as early as 8/19/1920.

BSmile
02-19-2008, 08:46 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 08:57 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

That's not Cobb's card is it? I wish the backs and fronts of those registration cards matched up. Nearly impossible to run a computer search for the correct backs.

OleMissCub
02-19-2008, 09:04 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

For Ty it should have said:

Color of Eyes: Gray
Color of Hair: Light Brown
Bald: Almost

:-)

Bill Burgess
02-19-2008, 01:31 PM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.
That is the other side of the piece of paper. It is indeed for Tyrus.

That document is from the World War I Civilian Draft Registration, which included 98% of all US males born between 1873-1898. They are available from Ancestry.com.

I have personally milked those databases dry. They have one's exact date of birth, occupation, employer, eye/hair color, and a ton of other good information. Have given me tons of dates of birth, middle names for my sports writers, prominent baseball figures.

They also have all the Federal Census' from 1790 to 1930, and many other census data too. Many states ran their own.

But the downside is that they do ask for money. It's a for-pay website. But I found out that the Palo Alto Library carries the full range of databases. Now I'm saved $120./year.

Good find.

Bill Burgess
02-19-2008, 01:33 PM
Teams were wearing armbands in honor of Chapman at least as early as 8/19/1920.
This is true. Some teams adopted the black armbands right away, others later, or the next season.

BSmile
02-20-2008, 12:29 PM
Got some real gems for this posting. I think William might like some of these ;)

1) Very Rare! Ty circa. 1902-04 with the Royston, GA team. That's Ty in the back row, third from the left with the bowler hat on.

2) Ty in action circa. 1920-1921. NOTE that he's wearing that uniform with the ripped D on the jersey and the black armband!!!

3) Large size pic of Ty signing for 1921 with an always cheerful Frank Nevin looking on.

4) Ty crosses the plate after HR #112 at Yankee Stadium in 1926.

5) Ty at home in Georgia, finally retired - 1930.

Cheers! ~B

(p.s. There's a ton of new rare Babe Ruth on the way....)

Bill Burgess
02-20-2008, 05:08 PM
What wonderful shots of Ty. I love you for posting these. I haven't seen many of them! I love when that happens. Where did you dig these up?

If you can include the sources, that'd be great. I always do too. Thanks so much for these fantastic gifts. I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp. So many folks, so little time.

OleMissCub
02-20-2008, 09:56 PM
1) Very Rare! Ty circa. 1902-04 with the Royston, GA team. That's Ty in the back row, third from the left with the bowler hat on.

Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 06:28 AM
Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.
I showed the original shot in the caption above that photo. It does list Ty as on the bottom left. In fact, it names all the boys.

The kid on the top left also looks like Ty.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 07:54 AM
I personally can't really say for sure which one is Ty in that pic that I found.
This is the description it came with:

The Earliest Known Ty Cobb Baseball Photograph. The letter "R" on the gentleman's sweater in the front row is for "Royston," the small Georgia town that grew the legendary Peach. And though a vintage ink notation on verso mistakenly locates the young Tyrus Cobb as seated at far left, the fierce, determined looking young man standing in the back row wearing a straw bowler and bow tie is clearly the future terror of the American League. We date this exceptionally scarce sepia toned photograph to the 1902 to 1904 range, when Ty was fifteen to seventeen years old. He huddles with the team manager and the other eight players of the Royston Nine for this posed studio shot, originally acquired from the estate of a Cobb teammate. A certain degree of wear is to be expected from a century-old photo, though the scattered small holes and assorted wrinkles do not dare to cross paths with the young Cobb.

Brian McKenna
02-21-2008, 12:35 PM
Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.

The runty kid has to be Cobb. The guy in the hat is clearly, at least to me, not Cobb.

BTW - isn't that a straw hat, not a bowler.

hellborn
02-21-2008, 12:45 PM
The runty kid has to be Cobb. The guy in the hat is clearly, at least to me, not Cobb.

BTW - isn't that a straw hat, not a bowler.

I agree...the kid has Cobb's eyes.
I've also never heard of that kind of hat being called a bowler...I think that it was called a straw boater.

EdTarbusz
02-21-2008, 12:51 PM
John Steed wore a bowler in the Avengers, and the guy in the photo isn't wearing the same type of hat as Steed. I think the kid in the lower left is Cobb. The guy in the straw hat doesn't look like Cobb to me.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 01:42 PM
After looking at the picture for a while, I'd have to agree that the kid in the front row to the left looks the most like Ty.

Attached are:

1) Ty Cobb at Shibe Park - 1910 (pretty rare)

2) I "corrected" the flaws in the pic of Ty (c.1920-21) with the armband etc. I think it looks much better now with the creases/scrapes removed.

3) Finally, a nice B&W autographed photo of Ty (inscribed in 12/14/1949)

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 01:59 PM
I agree...the kid has Cobb's eyes.
I've also never heard of that kind of hat being called a bowler...I think that it was called a straw boater.
or straw skimmer.

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 02:02 PM
After looking at the picture for a while, I'd have to agree that the kid in the front row to the left looks the most like Ty.

Attached are:

1) Ty Cobb at Shibe Park - 1910 (pretty rare)

2) I "corrected" the flaws in the pic of Ty (c.1920-21) with the armband etc. I think it looks much better now with the creases/scrapes removed.

3) Finally, a nice B&W autographed photo of Ty (inscribed in 12/14/1949)

Cheers! ~B
I just want to reassure you that you are doing a tremendous job in posting these warm and wonderful photos! And I, for one, appreciate it!!

Please don't mind our petty quibbling with dates, details, etc. We just can't help obsessing on this stuff. For the true baseball addict, these old photos, especially the ones we've not seen before, are more compelling and addicting than porn! Just can never get enough of these images. They are all we have left of that long-gone world of yore.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 02:52 PM
For the true baseball addict, these old photos, especially the ones we've not seen before, are more compelling and addicting than porn! Just can never get enough of these images. They are all we have left of that long-gone world of yore.

I understand William, believe me. That's why I seek out these photos...it's so much fun to find a picture that not only is prviously unknown to me, but will almost certainly be unknown to most anybody else. I think I'm tapped out of Ty Cobb images at the moment...but I'll find more...I always do.

In the meantime, keep an eye on my Babe Ruth thread...I've got a lot more pictures to post there.

Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 03:54 PM
I'm jealous that Bsmile is getting all the compliments for the pictures so I decided to try to find some really good ones. Lol just kidding. But hopefully you guys enjoy these, because I sure do.

Ty Cobb signing an autograph
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb25.jpg

April 14, 1950: Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Duffy Lewis at Dallas, TX. These three oldtime stars donned Dallas uniforms as members of a team which took the field against Tulsa's first batter at the opening of Texas League play in the Cotton Bowl. From left are: Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb and Duffy Lewis. Dizzy Dean pitched for the old-timers.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/003_big.jpg

Ty Cobb at the Congressional hearings on baseball in 1951
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb51.jpg

Ty Cobb take a swing at the San Francisco park in 1931
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/005_big.jpg

Ty Cobb riding in a vehicle in 1913
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/COBBCAR1913.jpg

Cobb with a golf club in 1939
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/01320079.jpg

Cobb with a golf club once again
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/01320080.jpg

Cobb well dressed in 1919
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb19.jpg

Babe Ruth and Cobb playing some nice games
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/BabeandCobbplayingchooseup1945.jpg

Which bat will Cobb choose?
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/1Tyin25b.jpg

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 04:04 PM
Ty Cobb at a young age 1907
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/1cobb1907.jpg

Cobb with George Burns in Cleveland in 1927
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/CobbwGeorgeBurnsofCleveland1927.jpg

Cobb in 1922
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb22.jpg

Cobb and Babe Ruth at a golf tournament in 1943
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/Post43-CobbRuth-19433tournamentgolf.jpg

Cobb in 1911
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb1911a.jpg

Cobb in 1911
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0570/s057051.jpg

Ty Cobb in 1908
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobbbig08.jpg

Cobb in 1907
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty37963.jpg

Cobb showing us his nice smile
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/36093.jpg

Cobb in 1909
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty09.jpg

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker in 1947 Old Timers game
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/26888.jpg

Ruth and Cobb 1924
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/photos/Ruth_and_Cobb1924.gif

Ty Cobb being serious
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty29InscribedtoTonyLazzeri.jpg

Ty Cobb looking stunning once again
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty32.jpg

Ty Cobb holding a bat: 1913
http://rmparchive.com/images/hosting/LC456-600W.jpg

Ty Cobb and the great Bobby Jones
http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/ee/9d/ed_1_b.JPG

Well thats it for now hopefully you enjoy these.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 06:35 PM
Well that's it for now hopefully you enjoy these.

For sure...some really good one's in there. I swear, Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb must have had each other on "speed-dial". They sure did show up at a lot of the same old-timer's events!

~B

OleMissCub
02-21-2008, 09:24 PM
Cobb in 1911
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb1911a.jpg


That picture is just unbelievable.

hellborn
02-22-2008, 05:35 AM
That picture is just unbelievable.

Notice that his hands are together...Cobb claimed that he would slide his hands together when he really wanted to put a charge in the ball, instead of using the split grip. Judging from his foot action, it looks like he's going to "open up" a little and try to really put a hurting on an inside pitch that he likes the looks of, or is at least guessing the he's getting something inside and is going to power it.

I LOVE that photo of Cobb hitting in SF with his suit on!! It's hard to tell, but it looks to me like his hands were still apart when he started to take the top hand off the bat...looks like the ump is handling the catching for him, too.

The closeups also drive home how much Eminem looks like Ty did, as somebody else here mentioned.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 12:34 PM
I really enjoy the picture as well, I love it even more that it's black and white, I don't think it would have the same effect if it was color.

I'm glad that you guys enjoy the pictures, and Ill try to find some more beauties for you guys.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 01:26 PM
Sam Crawford and Ty Cobb, 1908-11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/SamCrawford4.jpg

1928: Lou Gehrig, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth
http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction30/photographs/38761.jpg

That's it for now, but I'll be posting more later. I'm moving on to the Bbe Ruth thread for a bit.

BSmile
02-22-2008, 01:46 PM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.
Here's the explanation of the picture:

This simply remarkable panoramic photograph captures the greatest stars of the American League Dead Ball era, all of whom had convened at Cleveland's League Park on July 24, 1911 for a benefit game to raise money for the widow of Hall of Fame pitcher Addie Joss, whose life had been tragically cut short three months earlier in a virulent bout with meningitis. It must be noted that panoramic photographs were very expensive to produce at this time in history, and as such only those participating in the event were given a copy. Frank "Home Run" Baker's personal photo, offered here, is one of the very few to survive the many decades since. Baker is easy to spot, twelfth from right, dressed in the road grey uniform of his Philadelphia Athletics. Three men to his right is the great Walter Johnson in the midst of a season that saw him pitch six complete game shutouts. Other early gods of the diamond present include Shoeless Joe Jackson, Cy Young, Napoleon Lajoie, Eddie Collins, Smokey Joe Wood and the fiery Ty Cobb, who wears a borrowed Cleveland Naps jersey after forgetting to bring his Tigers togs to the ballpark. Behind the chicken wire that separates the stands from the playing field, scores of fans in dark suits and straw hats clamor to get a look at this outrageous assembly of talent, essentially the first All-Star Game in baseball history.

Cheers! ~B
(btw....I found some more great Cobb pic's...they'll be up today as well)

The AL All-Stars are fairly easy to identify. Starting with where the Cleveland Indians' players leave off, (don't count their mascot), they are, starting 16th from the right:
L-R: Clyde Milan, Walter Johnson, Gabby Street, Bobby Wallace, Frank Baker, Jimmy McAleer (Mgr.), Sam Crawford, Tris Speaker, Hal Chase, Russel Ford, Smokey Joe Wood, Paddy Livingston, Germany Schaffer, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, Cleveland Indian Jack Graney.
For the historical record, Cy Young is 10th from the left, Joe Jackson is 11th from the left, and Nap Lajoie is 18th from the left.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 01:57 PM
Here's an amazing picture that I found, its full of baseball legends.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/Premiums/tootsteam.jpg?t=1185082686

BSmile
02-22-2008, 02:10 PM
Here's an amazing picture that I found, its full of baseball legends.

It is a great picture...but it was already posted in this thread (post #21)

Cheers! ~B

OleMissCub
02-22-2008, 03:24 PM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.


Shoeless Joe is listed as 6'1, 200lbs.

Check him out in that photo, there's NO way he's that size. He looks like a shrimp.

BSmile
02-22-2008, 03:38 PM
Here we have a beautiful (and large) photo of the 1909 American League Champion Detroit Tigers. Everybody is looking pretty sharp here...

Cheers! ~B

1909 Detroit Tigers, 98-54, .645; 3.5 games ahead; WS (L 4-3)---BB-Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/1909.shtml)

Top Row: L-R: Harry Tuthill (trainer), Tom Jones, Charlie 'Bossman' Schmidt, Bill Lelivelt, Del Gaynor, Sam Crawford, Matty McIntyre, Ed Killian, Oscar Stanage, Heinie Beckendorf, George Mullen.

Bottom Row: L-R: Davy Jones, Ed Willett, George Moriarty, Ed Summers, Hughie Jennings (Mgr.), Bill Donovan, Ralph Works, Ty Cobb.

Seated at bottom: L-R: Donnie Bush, Charlie O'Leary, Jim Delahanty, George 'Kid' Speers.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/190920Detroit20Tigers.jpg
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/Image4.jpg

OleMissCub
02-22-2008, 04:36 PM
Some great images on Getty I found. Just wish the stupid watermark was gone!!

Landis and Cobb, 1924.
http://cache2.gettyimages.com/xc/50413930.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=4996399091E8318691C87B6416B2257D207CAAE8C4C94190

Cobb in his Chalmers, 1910.

http://cache3.gettyimages.com/xc/3123558.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=6C7CA773A571C2DDDA85F734CF4FC002

BSmile
02-22-2008, 08:09 PM
Yup....here we go:

1) Inside of Ty's book, "Science Of Batting". 1944. With a nice Cobb signature

2) I found a larger version of that Ty pic at Shibe Field 1910 picture. Here it is

3) May 27, 1914 Newspaper Insert - New Haven, CT

4) A really nice handwritten letter to Tommy Heinrich's Dad - 12/14/1949

5) Finally...a gorgeous Stall & Dean Gloves Ad Display for Ty.

Just when I think I can't possibly find any more cool Ty Cobb images...well...then I do. Hopefully more to come!

Cheers! ~B

BSmile
02-23-2008, 08:50 AM
1) Ty Cobb - "Forgotten Play" - Ty shows how to bunt. Newpaper clip...

2) Tyrus Cobb Base Ball Stars Notebook - 1910's

Bill Burgess
02-23-2008, 11:03 AM
I'd love to know who the players in posts #78 and #82 were. Were they identified in the sources?

This is why we need to identify our sources, my brothers. All one need to do is look at the top of the screen, to the address bar, and copy/paste that with your photo. That way, we can all go there and see what other details are given. And maybe we will discover photos that we enjoy that others might not.

Actually, Fever rules ask us all to credit our sources. Thanks for understanding, guys. Please do not let this discourage anyone from continuing to share these incredible treasures with us.

Bill

BSmile
02-23-2008, 02:32 PM
For Bill.....
The 1909 Tigers picture...unedited, with the last names on the bottom.

Plus a bonus:
Ty Cobb - May 23, 1913 (that's all the info I have)

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-23-2008, 03:24 PM
Thank you so very much!! The difference in the 2 photos proves you have unparalleled graphic skills. The first one you posted, with your editing, was by far the greater one visually.

But please show the names from now on, OK?? Pretty please. The names of the websites, or links, help the many hundreds of invisible eyes that are following your every posting!!

Also, that one sweet shot of the first All-Star team. Do you have one of the NL team from that 1933 team?

Or a similar one for that Addie Joss Death Benefit game? The traditional photo? That one would be oh so sweet!!! Would be desperate to see that one posted like the 1933 All-Star Team!!---This is the one I'd love to see a large, pristine shot of. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81

Or, the same would go for the 1917 Tim Murnane Death Benefit Game.---This one.---http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504708&postcount=100

George H Ruth
02-24-2008, 09:18 AM
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9247/tycobbwx8.jpg

Here's the other sig I was talking about, I'm hopeful you guys like them. I'll be making more shortly.

BSmile
02-24-2008, 02:42 PM
Well, it appears that Ty is feeding Joe Dimaggio a Georgia Peach...to which I say...WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?! Hahaha....sadly, I have no details about this picture....but it's a classic.

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-24-2008, 03:14 PM
My brothers,

While you guys are still posting phenomenal photos that I've never seen before, I would like to request some help from you. I have some photos that are not up to good standards.

1. Addie Joss Death Benefit Game - http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81

2. Hall of Fame Dedication Ceremonies, July 12, 1939 - http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=532105&postcount=292

And lastly, I would dearly love to improve on what we now have on our great teams. The bottom of this page---
http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306&page=12

And this page
http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306&page=13

I've done my level best to find the best, clearest photos of these teams, but many are still dreadful. If anyone can find even a single shot of any of these teams that improves on what we have now, we all would be permanently indebted to you. Sincerely.

You guys seem to have a unique skill at ferreting out incredible images. Far better than I can find.

BSmile
02-24-2008, 04:02 PM
I would like to request some help from you. I have some photos that are not up to good standards

I do some digging Bill. BTW, I saw those 1907 Tigers pic's and I just HAD to make a GIF out of them.

Cheers! ~B

BSmile
02-25-2008, 02:48 PM
Here's a great pic:

Ty and "Brick" Owen - April 4, 1911

OleMissCub
02-25-2008, 03:54 PM
I do some digging Bill. BTW, I saw those 1907 Tigers pic's and I just HAD to make a GIF out of them.


http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36413&stc=1&d=1203897719

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/Roxbury.gif

George H Ruth
02-25-2008, 03:57 PM
Cobb Hunting
http://wso.williams.edu/~jkossuth/cobb/pics/hunting.jpg

George H Ruth
02-27-2008, 01:04 PM
Ty Cobb with the A's 1927
http://www.gallery240.com/Baseball/slides/291%20Ty%20Cobb%20Phil%20A's%201927%20Web.JPG

blackbetsy
02-29-2008, 06:41 AM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.
Here's the explanation of the picture:

This simply remarkable panoramic photograph captures the greatest stars of the American League Dead Ball era, all of whom had convened at Cleveland's League Park on July 24, 1911 for a benefit game to raise money for the widow of Hall of Fame pitcher Addie Joss, whose life had been tragically cut short three months earlier in a virulent bout with meningitis. It must be noted that panoramic photographs were very expensive to produce at this time in history, and as such only those participating in the event were given a copy. Frank "Home Run" Baker's personal photo, offered here, is one of the very few to survive the many decades since. Baker is easy to spot, twelfth from right, dressed in the road grey uniform of his Philadelphia Athletics. Three men to his right is the great Walter Johnson in the midst of a season that saw him pitch six complete game shutouts. Other early gods of the diamond present include Shoeless Joe Jackson, Cy Young, Napoleon Lajoie, Eddie Collins, Smokey Joe Wood and the fiery Ty Cobb, who wears a borrowed Cleveland Naps jersey after forgetting to bring his Tigers togs to the ballpark. Behind the chicken wire that separates the stands from the playing field, scores of fans in dark suits and straw hats clamor to get a look at this outrageous assembly of talent, essentially the first All-Star Game in baseball history.

Cheers! ~B
(btw....I found some more great Cobb pic's...they'll be up today as well)

The AL All-Stars are fairly easy to identify. Starting with where the Cleveland Indians' players leave off, (don't count their mascot), they are, starting 16th from the right:
L-R: Clyde Milan, Walter Johnson, Gabby Street, Bobby Wallace, Frank Baker, Jimmy McAleer (Mgr.), Sam Crawford, Tris Speaker, Hal Chase, Russel Ford, Smokey Joe Wood, Eddie Ainsmith, Germany Schaffer, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, another Cleveland Indian player.
For the historical record, Cy Young is 10th from the left, Joe Jackson is 11th from the left, and Nap Lajoie is 18th from the left.


Would like to make a correction to the identities of the players listed. In place of Eddie Ainsmith above....this is actually Paddy Livingston and the Cleveland player on the end of that line is actually Jack Graney, who appears twice in the photo. Graney is also the third guy on the left side of the photo. Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Mike Nola
Official Historian
The Shoeless Joe Jackson Virtual Hall of Fame Web Site
http://www.blackbetsy.com/
Home of the Joe Jackson model Louisville Slugger baseball bat offer.
The voice said "Build it and they will come".........and they have!!!!!

Bill Burgess
02-29-2008, 07:28 AM
Would like to make a correction to the identities of the players listed. In place of Eddie Ainsmith above....this is actually Paddy Livingston and the Cleveland player on the end of that line is actually Jack Graney, who appears twice in the photo. Graney is also the third guy on the left side of the photo. Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Mike Nola
Official Historian
The Shoeless Joe Jackson Virtual Hall of Fame Web Site
http://www.blackbetsy.com/
Home of the Joe Jackson model Louisville Slugger baseball bat offer.
The voice said "Build it and they will come".........and they have!!!!!
Thank you, Mike. I stand corrected. You are quite correct. Error on Burgess, again. Am I leading the league in errors yet? Must be. :)

Bill

BSmile
03-02-2008, 08:44 PM
Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Hahaha! That is a fantastic bit of information. Thanks so much for your input. I've checked out the www.blackbetsy.com website several times...great stuff. Hopefully you'll have more to add to this site as well.

Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
03-09-2008, 03:01 PM
Ty Cobb in the field with the Tigers 1920
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thehockeyattic/cobbtigers.JPG

Ty Cobb Hall of Fame plaque 1936(sorry for the size)
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/hof2001/hof1936.jpg

Sooperdon
03-09-2008, 05:43 PM
Here's a Ty Cobb hand fan that looks pretty old. It looks like it was cut by hand from heavy card stock, very rigid about 7.5" across. It might have been a give-a-way at the park or maybe a DIY kit. There's no date on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I also have a handfan from 1985 with Cobb on one side and Pete Rose on the other commemorating the season Rose broke the all time hits record. I'll post it later as it's too big for my scanner and I don't have access to a digital cam right now.

BSmile
03-09-2008, 07:34 PM
Happened to find this gem of a picture today:
Cy Young, Duffy Lewis, Tris Speaker, Harry Hooper and Ty Cobb - Sept. 28, 1947 at Yankee Stadium. (Babe Ruth Day).

Cheers! ~B

BSmile
03-11-2008, 02:21 PM
1) Ty Cobb showing his new team's shirt

2) Jimmy Archer, Ty Cobb, Hans Wagner & Roger Bresnahan - Sept. 30, 1930

3) Ty Cobb and family sightseeing in Paris - 1929

4) Ty Cobb and Umpire Ed Walsh chucking snowballs - Dec.14, 1922

5) Ty Cobb showing disabled kids his bat - Aug. 25, 1922 in Philadelphia

Lots more to come....
~B

George H Ruth
03-11-2008, 02:38 PM
Close up of Cobb
http://www.recollectics.com/photogal/tycobb.jpg

BSmile
03-11-2008, 02:47 PM
Tris Speaker, Joe Dimaggio and Ty Cobb in the locker room - July 30, 1955
Old Timer's Day - Yankee Stadium

George H Ruth
03-12-2008, 05:55 PM
Ty Cobb and Buster Keaton Eating Corn on the Cob
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U170529INP.jpg?size=67&uid={5d76050c-ea23-4a62-9fa1-719792ba77d4}

Ty Cobb and Connie Mack
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U408177INP.jpg?size=67&uid={98ce16bb-2735-4bee-8eb0-afcc197a3945}

Ty Cobb with family
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050681.jpg?size=67&uid={8ff65fd4-7b52-466e-921a-9fcf4c386526}

Ty Cobb and his Family: L-R: Mother Amanda, brother Paul, Paul's wife, sister Florence, wife Charlie, Ty.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U378075INP.jpg?size=67&uid={cf633b30-5b04-485f-b8b7-ef01476d9cc7}

Ty Cobb & Connie Mack Shaking Hands 1927
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050683.jpg?size=67&uid={cd4a9bb1-8164-4867-8059-18cf8d83e185}

Ty Cobb with Doug dale and Frank Ploof
http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV9301.jpg?size=67&uid={fb920e08-3e1f-4319-9183-94b5bb987bc4}

hellborn
03-13-2008, 05:04 AM
Ty Cobb and Buster Keaton Eating Corn on the Cob
That looks like field corn!! Bleccchhh!!!
What a bizarre photo...anybody know what the context is?



Ty Cobb with family
Cobb's wife looks terrified for some reason...isn't it amazing that it took so many years for baby car seats to be invented? I can remember sitting in my Mom's lap in the front seat while my Dad drove, seems impossibly dangerous now.

BSmile
03-13-2008, 05:39 AM
OOOPS! OK, here's that picture....Ty Cobb, Frank Ploof, Fred (Dutch) Hoffman, Bob Shawkey - Japan 1928
95825
A week after marrying his 2nd wife, Frances Cass, October, 1949, Stork Club, NYC.
95826

George H Ruth
03-13-2008, 01:05 PM
L-R: Miss Robey Lyle, Ty Cobb, Miss Florence King , Grace Haught
http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV9114.jpg?size=67&uid={9668915a-e424-4f9f-b37f-3e03efda80b5}

Sporting the medal he received for winning the 1909 BA crown, wearing gloves.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/IH179670.jpg?size=67&uid={50ac6969-425d-43a0-8150-8f22866bf705}

Bobby Jones/Ty Cobb
http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV13700.jpg?size=67&uid={396bd5c5-256f-40f4-a03b-a50f24d6370e}

L-R: Ty Cobb, Sam Hardy, former captain of the Davis Cup tennis team; Beals Wright, former tennis champion; Mrs. Dorothy Campbell Hurd, former national and international women's champion (golf); Miss Elizabeth Ryan, second ranking women's tennis player; and William Tilden II, world's champion tennis player.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV12206.jpg?size=67&uid={0f8ca2fb-be42-493b-9598-85e4435aeb5b}

October 30, 1913, Detroit, Mich.; Ty Cobb/Governor Woodrow Wilson stand next to each other on the far left.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/IH059838.jpg?size=67&uid={0b9cf95f-c40f-4541-9982-ff55e07fe513}

Ty Cobb next to his car
http://pro.corbis.com/images/VV9305.jpg?size=67&uid={9d3f42a2-25f3-4f85-b3ba-3f518881cc7f}

Representative Kelly of Pennsylvania, former Ball Player, announced he is ready against Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb in connection with the recent scandal expose. Photo shows J. Frank Carswell of Augusta, Georgia reading the resolutions of confidence to Ty Cobb, which were passed by Ty's home towners.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U123703P-A.jpg?size=67&uid={9d3470d9-7efe-4fe3-813c-1fbfcec281e7}

Ty Cobb autographing a bat for Jimmie McDonald.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1066879INP.jpg?size=67&uid={9bfabff0-e2b5-4ce5-b3ce-5ea44f5417c1}

Ty Cobb and his wife, Charlie showing what they hunted
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U407415INP.jpg?size=67&uid={02e661ce-fdca-478a-a292-08fd82b8dd10}

Ty and his dog
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U957738ACME.jpg?size=67&uid={19c4aaa8-701f-438e-8b5e-528efcef2454}

George H Ruth
03-13-2008, 01:21 PM
Hunting Party
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U407413INP.jpg?size=67&uid={e0532d6b-08cc-49d8-b9f9-6bbf8fddba81}

National League 75th Anniversary
Jimmie Foxx, newest member of Baseball's Hall of Fame, is caught between Tris Speaker (L) and Ty Cobb (R)
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1160390INP.jpg?size=67&uid={08ad6662-89a0-4f6c-bd8f-3911d547fa63}

Stand Musial/Ty Cobb
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1136490.jpg?size=67&uid={bc741bb9-3b32-4d3b-9ace-c3319e560bb0}

January, 1927: Tris Speaker/Ty Cobb. Preparing to coordinate their legal suit against baseball, unless Judge Landis cleared their names.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U123841P-A.jpg?size=67&uid={20d3f354-ef72-4ab0-9e75-85dfcc42a5e6}

Ford Frick, President of the National League; Chairman Emanuel Celler, (D) NY, Ty Cobb
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U1173720INP.jpg?size=67&uid={3f999477-3a69-40c6-82fa-aadd5ef10325}

Ty Cobb, Thomas Edison, Connie Mack
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050410.jpg?size=67&uid={873b684c-4a6c-40b9-97b0-d05f73471969}

Ty Cobb with family 1914
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U21742INP.jpg?size=67&uid={6a658686-f199-4edc-a26c-cdf2c4900550}

L-R: Ty Cobb, Babe Adams and Hans Wagner 1925
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U305020INP.jpg?size=67&uid={d141a6ac-59b6-4bf1-92ff-c9d47c6ea537}

Ty Cobb Wearing Glasses 1926
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050416.jpg?size=67&uid={7a90281d-a42f-4c63-9ab7-6eca0907769e}

Left to Right: Nick Altrock of Senators, Ty Cobb, Rogers Hornsby, Connie Mack, Christy Walsh, Manager Joe MacCarthy, Babe Ruth, and John McGraw 1929
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050495.jpg?size=67&uid={c3aa40b2-0fe6-421a-88b2-45ea37430240}

BSmile
03-13-2008, 02:29 PM
1) Ty Cobb at court...and not looking too happy - May 11, 1956

2) Ty - Nov. 27, 1953 - Showing off the medallions for the trustee's of his new foundation

3) Ty in 1939 at the HOF, chatting with sports writer Grantland Rice.

George H Ruth
04-25-2008, 01:45 PM
Ty Cobb with Hoffman? 1928
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/38437.jpg

Bill Burgess
05-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Hey guys. I'm so sick of seeing so many Babe Ruth rare photos, which have so little to nothing to do with the game of baseball, while this thread rots! :rolleyes::dismay::hp:confused:

Cobb was so much more interesting a subject, and yet we continue to get a gazillion boring Babe shots and no cool Cobb photos.

Where's the enlarged panoramic Ty stuff? I'm just Babed-out. (Just playin' wichaya'yall. Wink.)

Proctor, CF
05-04-2008, 06:51 PM
Per Bill's comment below expressing interest only in photos of Ty in baseball uniform, I hereby delete the photo previously attached here -one of Ty holding the golf trophy he won in a match with Ruth.

Bill Burgess
05-04-2008, 08:08 PM
I'll be honest with you, Proctor. I'm not interested in photos of Cobb/Ruth not in uniform, or not an action shot.

I like full-length action shots of players in their primes. Not head shots, not in civilian clothes, not old man shots. I'm just not into the culture of the game.

But that's just me.

BSmile
05-04-2008, 08:19 PM
OK Bill....
I posted this one recently on another Ty Cobb thread. I thought it was this one but I guess it was a much older thread. So here it is again. It's actually one of the funnier pic's I've seen of Ty...just because he's wearing a silly party hat! Haha....yeah, it was taken on March 17, 1938 (St. Patricks Day). He was in San Francisco, CA for a golf tournament. Looks like he's playing dominoes with some of the guys. Also, I've got some other good Ty stuff on the backburner...I'll have to clean them up and post them.
Cheers! ~B

BSmile
05-04-2008, 08:21 PM
"I'm not interested in photos of Cobb/Ruth not in uniform, or not an action shot"

Sorry Bill....it is classic to see Ty in a party hat though!

Bill Burgess
05-18-2008, 08:20 AM
Would love to see this thread resurrected and great new action shots of Ty posted.

Rounding 3rd, aheadin' for home, 1909-10, against the Highlanders (Yankees)---------------------1908-13

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6620/tycobbswingmh2.gifhttp://img267.imageshack.us/img267/9589/cobbswingdu7.gifhttp://www.uploadgeek.com/uploads456/0/cobbslide.gifhttp://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5720/cobbmanage2fs2.gif

E.Banks#14
05-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Ty Cobb: 1920

9583495833

Notice the rip on the 'D' logo on Cobb's chest. It looks like this is the same jersey he's wearing in the leftmost video you posted, Bill. I wonder if there are any other photos depicting Cobb in this same tattered jersey. And does anyone know if the black armband on his left sleeve can date this photo to a specific year?

EDIT: And I've actually got another of Ty in the same jersey
95835

E.Banks#14
05-19-2008, 09:24 PM
Ty Cobb with Hoffman? 1928

Where I found this photo, the man next to Cobb was labeled as possibly being Herb Hunter.

Bill Burgess
05-19-2008, 09:40 PM
[B][COLOR="Red"]And does anyone know if the black armband on his left sleeve can date this photo to a specific year?

Yes, we can date a photo from that black armband. It was adopted late in 1920 by many teams in honor of Ray Chapman. Some teams also kept it in 1921.

So, whenever you see it, think 1920-21.

Bill Burgess
05-29-2008, 09:06 PM
What happened to this cool thread?

BSmile
05-30-2008, 06:32 AM
Ty getting loose before a game - 1908
Looks like he's getting his game face on!

TigerNation
05-30-2008, 04:04 PM
These are some great pictures of the greatest player to ever live. Keep up the good work guys.

Bill Burgess
05-31-2008, 08:35 AM
I just noticed a discrepancy here, guys. Notice the photo below. It is from the Corbis collection. And here is the caption that Corbis attaches to it.

"Original caption: Four all time greats of baseball, each one a member of the Hall Of Fame, are shown gazing Nostalgically at a cudgel as they were reunited in New York for tomorrow's observance of the National League's 75th anniversary celebration. From left are Fred Clark, who starred in the outfield of the Pittsburgh Pirates; Charley Gehringer, second baseman of the Detroit Tigers; Ty Cobb, Tiger outfielder and Rogers Hornsby, second baseman of the St. Louis Cardinals. Fifteen of the 22 living members of the Hall of Fame will be at the party.
Image: © Bettmann/CORBIS

Date Photographed: February 1, 1951"

Boy, did Corbis blow THAT caption. It was obviously intended for some other photo. This photo shows Cobb chatting with sports writer Grantland Rice, but it ain't in 1951! That's for sure. Ty never looked that good that late in his life. It appears it might be from the 1930's. Maybe the original Hall of Fame Dedication in June, 1939. That might be more like it.

OleMissCub
05-31-2008, 06:01 PM
Made this one just for you Bill:

Ty & The Babe:


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbmovie7.gif

Bill Burgess
06-01-2008, 12:01 AM
Made this one just for you Bill:

Ty & The Babe:


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbmovie7.gif
Why thank you OleMissCub! That was very generous of you. Sincerely.

OleMissCub
06-16-2008, 07:33 PM
Captain Tyrus Cobb and Captain Christy Mathewson from WWI:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbmatty.jpg

another one of Captain Cobb

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/captaincobb.jpg

Second Base Coach
06-18-2008, 05:18 PM
Why are the left field stands empty? What team is Cobb and the Tigers playing in this photo?

That photo was taken this year, when the Tigers played an away series against the Florida Marlins.

I could tell by the empty bleachers.

OleMissCub
06-18-2008, 07:04 PM
That photo was taken this year, when the Tigers played an away series against the Florida Marlins.

I could tell by the empty bleachers.


Funny how the words "Ty Cobb" and "Florida Marlins" just do not compute in my head.

Iron Peach
06-25-2008, 08:37 AM
Just wanted to say thanks to Bill and others for the amazing photos. These photos are what lead me to Baseball Fever in the first place. This forum is absolutely amazing.

Stat One Author
06-25-2008, 08:38 AM
Great photos of one of the most interesting baseball players in history. Check out Al Stump's biography of him for a great read.

OleMissCub
06-25-2008, 10:17 AM
Great photos of one of the most interesting baseball players in history. Check out Al Stump's biography of him for a great read.

No thanks.

Bill Burgess
06-25-2008, 01:05 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to Bill and others for the amazing photos. These photos are what lead me to Baseball Fever in the first place. This forum is absolutely amazing.
To see my Ty Cobb photo gallery, which is at the end of the Ty Cobb Thread, check out this link. It goes for 2 pages.

http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=28106&page=9

George H Ruth
06-28-2008, 09:52 AM
I apologize if these have been posted before.

http://www.umass.edu/pubaffs/jackie/cobb.gif

http://www.sportvox.fr/IMG/ty3.jpg

http://www.sportvox.fr/IMG/TyCobb2.jpg

http://images.pictopia.com.edgesuite.net/perl/get_image?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/92/222976785_9cd3631932.jpg?v=0

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2301/2499270122_aeb651e3af.jpg?v=0

http://www.evesmag.com/tycobb.jpg

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/4273/ty20cobb20swinging20201yh3.jpg

Once again I apologize if these ones were posted.

Honus Wagner Rules
07-09-2008, 05:21 PM
Ok, this isn't a "photo" but I thought it's neat nevertheless.

OleMissCub
07-10-2008, 05:16 PM
Another gift for you Bill....I figured it'd go good in the thread next to the pictures of this event. Be nice to be able to read their lips.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbhonus.gif

Bill Burgess
07-10-2008, 05:38 PM
Another gift for you Bill....I figured it'd go good in the thread next to the pictures of this event. Be nice to be able to read their lips.
Oohh. I love gifts. Thank you so much, OleMissCub! Truly, truly appreciate it. I know right where I'll post it. In my Ty photo gallery in the post of Ty/Honus together! Perfect! Love it. Just love it.

OleMissCub
07-10-2008, 05:47 PM
Oohh. I love gifts. Thank you so much, OleMissCub! Truly, truly appreciate it. I know right where I'll post it. In my Ty photo gallery in the post of Ty/Honus together! Perfect! Love it. Just love it.

You're welcome!

Could I request that my gifs thread be put in "Classic, Vintage Threads".

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=72011

I've put a ton of effort into those things. :-)

Bill Burgess
07-10-2008, 06:09 PM
You're welcome!

Could I request that my gifs thread be put in "Classic, Vintage Threads".

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=72011

I've put a ton of effort into those things. :-)

Of course. I'll take care of it. Should we merge that thread with the other thread, Videos of our favorite stars?

Honus Wagner Rules
07-10-2008, 06:13 PM
Another gift for you Bill....I figured it'd go good in the thread next to the pictures of this event. Be nice to be able to read their lips.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbhonus.gif

Is that from the 1909 World Series?

Bill Burgess
07-10-2008, 06:22 PM
Is that from the 1909 World Series?
Yes, absolutely. You can tell from their faces. Their ages.

deadball-era-rules
07-24-2008, 08:57 PM
Hey Bill,
I don't know if anyone already pointed this out, but that photo you put up listing Cobb as being in his last years of managing and wearing an old hat is actually after his time with Detroit. Note the insignia on his jersey is that of the athletics, not the Tigers. The photo is probably from 1927 or '28.

OleMissClub,
Those GIFs are amazing!

OleMissCub
07-24-2008, 09:56 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbever.jpg

deadball-era-rules
07-25-2008, 04:35 AM
Great picture OleMiss, my favorite part is the caption at the bottom. You don't hear too many modern people bring up the fact that Cobb was actually a 'heavy hitter.' Sorry about that one picture being rather enormous.

Bill Burgess
07-25-2008, 07:07 AM
Hey Bill,
I don't know if anyone already pointed this out, but that photo you put up listing Cobb as being in his last years of managing and wearing an old hat is actually after his time with Detroit. Note the insignia on his jersey is that of the athletics, not the Tigers. The photo is probably from 1927 or '28.
Which post? I'd like to get it right.

deadball-era-rules
07-25-2008, 09:51 AM
It's actually on the first page about 3/4 of the way down the page. It's a photo autographed by Ty for Charlie Gehringer. It looks like he's wearing his A's jersey rather than the Tigers to me.

Bill Burgess
07-25-2008, 12:20 PM
It's actually on the first page about 3/4 of the way down the page. It's a photo autographed by Ty for Charlie Gehringer. It looks like he's wearing his A's jersey rather than the Tigers to me.
Ok. I just checked. You are absolutely correct. That is an A's uniform. From 1928. Thanks for the head's up. Very, very observant of you!

I fixed the caption.

OleMissCub
07-26-2008, 11:18 PM
Baseball: Boston Red Sox Ted Williams with Hall of Famer Ty Cobb signing autographs for fans during spring training, Phoenix, AZ 3/18/1960

http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/3198/81354905tl0.jpg

from the same day:

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/286/81372335bq0.jpg

A few from Getty I haven't seen posted yet:

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7260/3224914jd9.jpg

Could that first bagger be Gehrig? No. Ty's wearing a 1927 A's uniform, the park is Shibe and the fielder
is wearing Sox that only the Detroit Tigers wore in 1927, double stiped, with pinstripes. It was Lu Blue.

I'm guessing this one is from 1910 and the Chalmers race?
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/8100/3123558gw5.jpg

OleMissCub
08-06-2008, 01:45 AM
This great shot is often shown as a full body profile of both of them. However, I thought it'd be a cool shot to look at it close up and zoom in on their faces.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6222/cobbtrainbl7.png .

OleMissCub
08-06-2008, 11:05 PM
Bill, some more "gif gifts" for you!


http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbthrow3.gif



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbswing2.gif


and the best....Cobb tossing a ball to the 80 year old Thomas Edison only to have a comebacker hit at him!!

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbedison2.gif

OleMissCub
08-20-2008, 10:01 PM
Some more random Cobb photos from the LOC:

1921-22: Ty Cobb, unidentified, Walter Johnson, unidentified.
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/06900/06930v.jpg


L-R: Fred Lieb, Nick Altrock, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, John McGraw, Walter Johnson, George Sisler, Christy Walsh: October 4, 1924, World Series.
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/12300/12312v.jpg
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/13800/13817v.jpg

The following are photos from the Chicago Daily News collection, I wish the quality were better and the images were larger...

Ty and Jack Fournier, 1914:

http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0599/s059930.jpg

Ty sliding back into first base. The first baseman is Frank Isbell of the White Sox. 1908:
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0546/s054638.jpg

Ty on third base at South Side Park in Chicago. 1908:
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0545/s054561.jpg

Ty and Kid Gleason, 1926:
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0625/s062596.jpg

Ty sliding back into first with Jack Fournier applying the tag, 1913:
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0584/s058427.jpg

Ty running past first. Again, the first bagger is Jack Fournier, 1908:
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0546/s054640.jpg

OleMissCub
08-20-2008, 10:10 PM
Here are some great closeups taken from high resolution photos of Cobb:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb2.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb3.jpg

and my favorite: Cobb and Shoeless Joe

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbjoe.jpg

OleMissCub
08-24-2008, 06:59 PM
Sliding home during the first game of the 1908 World Series. The Cubs catcher is Johnny Kling.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3321/cobbklingpn7.jpg

Unsure about this one:

http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5238/cobbfadefd9.jpg

OleMissCub
08-25-2008, 04:06 PM
Some ones from Corbis I hadn't yet seen posted:

http://pro.corbis.com/images/U877337AACME.jpg?size=67&uid={5b3da74d-74f1-402a-8642-fd7b08463bdc}

1914
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE032672.jpg?size=67&uid={d22183f6-80a4-43cd-a891-975221eea881}

1927: Ty Cobb, Connie Mack, Howard Ehmke.
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050866.jpg?size=67&uid={ed8d2fd6-8caa-4df4-b377-d24d59567aa4}
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050635.jpg?size=67&uid={b3458bb6-2bd8-41fd-b344-ea0ecb1ad275}

With Bob Bescher of the Reds: 1909-13
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE040425.jpg?size=67&uid={ac389a9d-7631-4ea9-8489-5ed86d1aa2d0}

With Roger Maris, 9/17/60:
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE050943.jpg?size=67&uid={3c43987c-5f9b-423a-a9a3-77e487fe4ce6}

Did Connie Mack live a long time or what??
http://pro.corbis.com/images/BE058314.jpg?size=67&uid={9737edc1-69ac-47ff-bcba-5a734cd3281b}

Arguing with the ump, against the Yankees: 1921
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U15743ACME.jpg?size=67&uid={4bba36b3-dedd-44ab-98a6-7b80dbb9c328}

With one of his children (Jimmy?) and one of his brother Paul's children on the beach:
http://pro.corbis.com/images/U375974INP.jpg?size=67&uid={f217ecad-a3e0-478a-84f1-070bff38bc92}

OleMissCub
08-27-2008, 02:19 PM
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-17.jpg

I love this photo. That's the ultimate "I'm about to whip your butt" look.

OleMissCub
08-27-2008, 03:00 PM
Ty shaking hands with Don Newcombe before the first game of the 1949 World Series. The boy next to Cobb is Bruce Howard, a nine year old recovering victim of polio who threw out the game's first pitch.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus.jpg

Old Timers Game in 1930 in Massachusetts. l to r: Jimmy Archer, Cobb (holding the child of a friend), Governor Frank Allen, Honus Wagner, and Roger Bresnahan.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus2.jpg

Frank Baker, Ty, and Jimmie Foxx in the dugout before game one of the 1930 World Series:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus3.jpg

Ty sliding back into first during a 1928 Spring Training exhibition game against the Giants. The first baseman is Bill Terry.

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus4.jpg

With Ty Jr., in 1918 at his home in Royston, Georgia:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus5.jpg

Simmons, Speaker, and Cobb, 1928:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus6.jpg

Babe and Ty, 1945:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus7.jpg

Speaker, Foxx, and Ty during the 75th Anniversary Commemoration of the National League in New York in 1951:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus8.jpg

Playing golf in 1930 in Ashville, North Carolina:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyrus9.jpg

OleMissCub
09-06-2008, 08:41 PM
From New York Times, 1912

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbpunch.jpg

OleMissCub
09-07-2008, 02:23 PM
Ty with Tris and Duffy Lewis from Old Timers game in Dallas in 1950:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tristyduff.jpg

Another shot of the "Deadball Three" (as I call them) with the Philadelphia A's in 1928:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tytrised.jpg

OleMissCub
10-09-2008, 11:58 AM
DAMN WATERMARK!!!!!!


This is a picture I'd never seen before. It's listed as "Ty Cobb's rookie portrait, 1905"


http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/259/cobbrookieeo8.jpg


I actually inquired into purchasing it without the watermark, and it was $334!

OleMissCub
10-15-2008, 03:01 PM
not sure if I've seen this posted here. It's a picture of Ty from 1929 when he went to England on a baseball tour:



http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/NSAP1811_EXTR.jpg

BSmile
10-15-2008, 08:24 PM
not sure if I've seen this posted here. It's a picture of Ty from 1929 when he went to England on a baseball tour:


Whoa! What kind of mish-mosh uniform is Ty wearing?!?!?!
Is that a White Sox jersey with a Giants cap??
Great pic!

OleMissCub
10-15-2008, 09:40 PM
Whoa! What kind of mish-mosh uniform is Ty wearing?!?!?!
Is that a White Sox jersey with a Giants cap??
Great pic!

It's definitely an interesting get up he's wearing. Definitely a Giants cap I'd say.

BAD
10-30-2008, 03:33 PM
Actually, it's the bat boy picking them up. Cobb took them home with him. I read it wrong at first as well.

Bill Burgess
10-31-2008, 10:34 PM
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Bill Burgess
10-31-2008, 10:38 PM
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Bill Burgess
11-08-2008, 01:43 PM
Ty sliding back to 1B against Lou Gehrig: 1925-26.

OleMissCub
11-08-2008, 03:01 PM
http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/272/59444auc8.jpg

What a tremendous photograph of a 21 year-old Tyrus. Thanks for finding that, Bill. I wish the quality were better.

Bill Burgess
11-08-2008, 06:58 PM
What a tremendous photograph of a 21 year-old Tyrus. Thanks for finding that, Bill. I wish the quality were better.
Always a pleasure to share wonderful stuff with you! I found that shot on a gold mine of a photo source called Lelands.

Here is a page from that wonderful auction website.

http://www.lelands.com/itemlist.aspx?categoryid=558&auctionid=811

You can search it for yourselves and will be amply rewarded.

OleMissCub
11-08-2008, 10:37 PM
Thanks to Bill's discovery of the auction, we now have these SPLENDID shots of Tyrus Raymond Cobb, most of which I'd either never seen before or were higher quality shots of the shots that we've seen before.

I start off with ROOKIE Ty Cobb! Can an 18 year old look any tougher than this? 1908-11.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyyoung.jpg

-----------1915
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tycap.jpg

-----------1915
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tysmile.jpg

----------------1923-26
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyolder.jpg

-----------------1914-15
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyface.jpg

-------------------1927
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tya.jpg

OleMissCub
11-08-2008, 11:00 PM
With 1916 Republican Presidential Candidate Charles Evans Hughes:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tycanidate.jpg

Ty Cobb, Thomas Edison, Connie Mack: 1927.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyed.jpg

With Eddie Collins. (really like this one as it looks like a genuine smile from Ty, not a posed smile. Who is the other man?):
1909-12: The resemblance is striking. That might be his brother, Paul Cobb.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyeddie.jpg

1913: Practicing with a first baseman's mitt.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyfield2.jpg

with Willie Kamm: 1918
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tykamm.jpg

1907-12
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/typlate.jpg

1927: Signing autographs as a Phil. A.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tysign.jpg

1908-10: Ed Killian in background, left.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tythrow.jpg

1920, Polo Grounds.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tystand.jpg

George H Ruth
12-05-2008, 12:00 PM
Another picture of Tyrus Cobb and Bobby Jones.

http://ngeorgia.com/images/tycobbandbobbyjones.jpg

Captain Cold Nose
12-05-2008, 12:05 PM
I don't get it. I just watched Ken Burns' Baseball and I was under the impression Cobb was universally hated by all and vice versa. But he seems to be enjoying himself so much. He must have been faking it.

Cobb did come back a lot for Tiger old-timer events at Tiger Stadium. My clubhouse kid father would see him a bit, but he never really dealt with him. He seemed to enjoy those, too.

OleMissCub
12-05-2008, 01:22 PM
I don't get it. I just watched Ken Burns' Baseball and I was under the impression Cobb was universally hated by all and vice versa. But he seems to be enjoying himself so much. He must have been faking it.


Each time I watch that documentary (which seems to be about once a year) I get more and more upset at Burns. He basically used Cobb as a tool for his agenda, which was to present Ty as the worst of baseball and Jackie as the best of it.

There's an entire five minute segment in the third episode called "The Black Mark". The diatribe in there that makes me want to punch a hole in the screen is where Daniel Okrent smugly says:


"Cobb is the great black mark in the history of baseball. There's no question he was a great player, but he was a man of vile temperament and vile habit, a terrible racist, brutal...and in one of the most awful moments in a career that was filled with them, he went into the stands and brutally beat up a handicapped man who was heckling him." He continues, "the more his fires burned the more that provoked him on the field, and I suppose one could say the happy by-product was the extraordinary baseball he gave the fans of the time, but there is a moment when you have to say it is not worth it. I think Ty Cobb in his totality is an embarrassment to baseball."

That's horrific.

I think most of us agree that Al Stump did the most damage to the way Cobb has been perceived since his death, but I'd imagine Burns ranks second in that area.

Babe is the best
12-09-2008, 12:23 PM
I thought I saw a pic of Cobb walking off the field surrounded by an angry mob in Philadelphia on here once. If anyone could direct me to that I'd love to see it again. Unfortunately don't have time to hunt for it myself.

Homestead Gray
12-18-2008, 12:34 AM
This is my favorite baseball picture. I can remember growing up looking at this picture and hearing stories of how Cobb played the game with intensity and determination. This was the way baseball was meant to be played

Bill Burgess
12-18-2008, 06:42 AM
This is my favorite baseball picture. I can remember growing up looking at this picture and hearing stories of how Cobb played the game with intensity and determination. This was the way baseball was meant to be played
If you enjoy pictures of Ty Cobb (also my favorite player), you might enjoy my Ty Cobb photo tribute. Here is the link---Ty Cobb Thread (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80626&page=9)

The Ty photos continue onto the next page too.

Have you seen the Historical Archival Photographs yet? Here's the link.
Historical, Archival Photographs (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306)

Enjoy! I hope you're having the time of your life on Fever.

Homestead Gray
12-18-2008, 07:55 PM
If you enjoy pictures of Ty Cobb (also my favorite player), you might enjoy my Ty Cobb photo tribute. Here is the link---Ty Cobb Thread (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80626&page=9)

The Ty photos continue onto the next page too.

Have you seen the Historical Archival Photographs yet? Here's the link.
Historical, Archival Photographs (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306)

Enjoy! I hope you're having the time of your life on Fever.

Bill ... I am soooo happy that I found this site. Growing up I was a freak as I am from Canada and have always been a big ball fan. We used to trade cards and no one would ever trade with me as they all had hockey cards. Not only was I baseball card collector I was also a Cobb fan which people had a difficult time understanding...

This site is great !

OleMissCub
12-18-2008, 07:57 PM
This is my favorite baseball picture. I can remember growing up looking at this picture and hearing stories of how Cobb played the game with intensity and determination. This was the way baseball was meant to be played

It's the greatest photograph in baseball history. I don't think anything is even a close second.

I have a framed poster of it on my wall. I adore that picture.

BSmile
12-18-2008, 08:09 PM
Bill ... I am soooo happy that I found this site. Growing up I was a freak as I am from Canada and have always been a big ball fan. We used to trade cards and no one would ever trade with me as they all had hockey cards. Not only was I baseball card collector I was also a Cobb fan which people had a difficult time understanding...
This site is great !

Well, you've come to the right place then!
Here's a new one that I've tracked down:

Jim Thorpe & Ty Cobb - March 9, 1951 - Los Angeles
Yes, Ty's program says, "Be Happy". Ironic?

Bill Burgess
12-18-2008, 10:49 PM
Bill ... I am soooo happy that I found this site. Growing up I was a freak as I am from Canada and have always been a big ball fan. We used to trade cards and no one would ever trade with me as they all had hockey cards. Not only was I baseball card collector I was also a Cobb fan which people had a difficult time understanding...

This site is great !
Well, since that is the case, there are 2 threads that are amazing for Cobb fans.

Ty Cobb Thread (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80626)---The first 2 pages of Cobb, chronicling some of the major controversies of his career & the rest comprises assorted historical topics.
Pages 9-10 = TC Photo Gallery. Pages 12-13 = 34 prominent BB figures who assert TC played clean. Pages 14-16 = 76 people who were TC's friends or liked him. Page 17 = 21 assert his good fielding. Page 18 = 15 assert his good managing.

Cobb Consensus (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80614)---298 prominent baseball figures express their opinions that Cobb was the greatest player ever. As a bonus, I have also included 39 prominent BB figures who believed that Babe Ruth was the greatest ever. Also 36 BB figures who believed that Honus Wagner was the greatest ever. More than just another listing. A concentrated course in early baseball history!

OleMissCub
12-20-2008, 01:48 PM
These are from 1907 when he was 20 and won his first batting title:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb07.jpg

1905-07.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb071.jpg

OleMissCub
12-24-2008, 11:22 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tymerry.jpg

SavoyBG
12-27-2008, 02:39 PM
Why would a man who had been accepted by Ty into his confidances, as his friend, choose to portray a friend in such an unattractive way? Al stabbed Ty in the back for the small pittance of a magazine article fee.



Probably because he was a journalist and wanted to print the truth rather than whitewash all the stuff that Cobb did while Stump was there.

TigerNation
12-27-2008, 06:09 PM
Probably because he was a journalist and wanted to print the truth rather than whitewash all the stuff that Cobb did while Stump was there.

Please stop posting, you are without doubt the biggest idiot on the site.

OleMissCub
12-28-2008, 10:52 AM
Probably because he was a journalist and wanted to print the truth rather than whitewash all the stuff that Cobb did while Stump was there.

HAHAHAHA.

sweet god. It's so obvious that the extent of your knowledge about Stump and Cobb comes from the movie with Tommy Lee Jones.

Al Stump's portrayal of his time with Cobb is dishonest and has been proven to be so. He was a liar and known exaggerator.

His interest was in money, not the "truth".

OleMissCub
12-28-2008, 11:41 AM
Probably because he was a journalist and wanted to print the truth rather than whitewash all the stuff that Cobb did while Stump was there.

Some examples of Stump's dishonesty:


- Stump claimed that Grantland Rice recommended him to Cobb. In fact, Rice died years before Cobb began to need an author for his memoirs.

- Stump was a known sensationalist. He so embellished a story he did about deep-sea diver Jon Lindbergh that Lindbergh afterward refused to have anything to do with True magazine, whom Stump had written the piece for.

- Knowing his penchant for embellishing, it does not seem unlikely that many of his stories about Cobb are extremely exaggerated or completely fictitious considering that the only ones around in these tales were Cobb and Stump, and Cobb was dead by the time the work was published.

- Ted Williams stated that Stump was "full of it" when Stump told a story about Williams and Cobb having a falling-out over an argument about an all-time team. Williams said it was completely made up by Stump.

- Stump claims in his article that "During the final 10 months of his life I was his constant companion." In reality, Stump spent only a total of a few weeks with Cobb over the course of a year.

- Stump states that "from all of major-league baseball, three men, and three men only, attended his funeral." This is obviously intended to show how "hated" he was in the establishment. Well, that's just flat out dishonesty on Stump's part. The fact is that it was a last minute decision of his daughter Shirley to have a small ceremony. Before her decision, Ted Williams, Casey Stengel, Rogers Hornsby, and George Sisler were among those planning to be pallbearers. Douglas MacArthur was even planning on going to the Cobb funeral. Even in spite of this "small funeral" that Shirley wanted, over 400 people still showed up for the funeral.

- Numerous friends, relatives, and people in the medial field who had treated Cobb in the last year of his life claimed that Stump was being dishonest and mean-spirited in his account.

- Stump's dishonest account so bothered Cobb's family, that they refused to do anything else with writers for over two decades.

* (Peach by Richard Bak)

Bill Burgess
01-01-2009, 04:42 PM
Bill Terry, Mel Ott, Frankie Frisch, Ty Cobb.

Bill Burgess
01-04-2009, 03:08 PM
In his trophy room at home.

OleMissCub
01-04-2009, 10:09 PM
Interesting that he has a photo of the Baker-spiking on his wall.

I also wonder what the composite picture is.

SavoyBG
01-04-2009, 10:46 PM
Interesting that he has a photo of the Baker-spiking on his wall.


Naturally. He took great pride in injuring opponents....especially world champion opponents that he was jealous of.

OleMissCub
01-05-2009, 06:22 AM
Naturally. He took great pride in injuring opponents....especially world champion opponents that he was jealous of.

It's obvious you don't know a single thing about his relationship with Frank Baker, who was actually a friend of his.

It's also obvious that your goal on this website is to disparage Ty Cobb at every turn.

Bill Burgess
01-08-2009, 01:58 PM
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OleMissCub
01-08-2009, 02:06 PM
Thanks for the new Desktop background for my computer, Bill! Good to see a high quality image of the Austin play.

Bill Burgess
01-08-2009, 03:51 PM
Thanks for the new Desktop background for my computer, Bill! Good to see a high quality image of the Austin play.
1909: If you like that one, here is another, from the Charles Conlon book.

OleMissCub
01-09-2009, 08:17 AM
This is a terrific photo of Cobb from 1912 that was on the LOC website. Unfortunately, the only image retrievable is this small thumbnail. I'd love to find this photo somewhere. I might just have to suck it up and pay the LOC to get a full sized copy of it that I could scan.


http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3a40000/3a44000/3a44300/3a44357t.gif

OleMissCub
01-09-2009, 08:19 AM
I have no idea when or where this is from:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbcard.jpg

JessePopHaines16
01-10-2009, 02:13 PM
Ty Cobb, Detroit, and Joe Jackson, Cleveland, standing alongside each other, each holding bats, 1913

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3b40000/3b43000/3b43900/3b43970r.jpg

That pic is awesome. I bought it at the mall a couple years ago and have it up in my room.

Bill Burgess
01-10-2009, 03:07 PM
That pic is awesome. I bought it at the mall a couple years ago and have it up in my room.
If you like that photo, how do you like these beauties?

http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1293784&postcount=40

And I've priced them to move. Just right click and then download on your printer. Voila. Feels SO GOOD.

JessePopHaines16
01-10-2009, 03:23 PM
If you like that photo, how do you like these beauties?

http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1293784&postcount=40

And I've priced them to move. Just right click and then download on your printer. Voila. Feels SO GOOD.

nice. I also have a Cobb pic of him sliding into a base really hard.

Bill Burgess
01-13-2009, 03:01 PM
While I was captioning some of OleMissCubs' photos, I accidentally deleted this one. So, I back-spaced and copy/pasted this, in an effort to save it. Sorry so much, OleMissCub! One of my frequent screw-ups.

------------------------------------------1915-16
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyswing.jpg

-------------------------------------------1927
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyswing2.jpg

-----------------------------------1912
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyswing3.jpg

------------------------------------1927
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyswing4.jpg

-----------------------------------1918-22
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyswing5.jpg

-------------------------------------1907-12
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tythin.jpg

----------------------------------1917
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tywar.jpg

With Joe DiMaggio: Looks like they're both signing autographs in the late 30's.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/tyjoe.jpg

With Mickey Mantle:
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbmickey.jpg

Good God above, imagine owning this!! Ty, Tris, Babe.
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobbspeakerruth.jpg

OleMissCub
01-16-2009, 08:53 AM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/26958.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/29617.jpg


From a clothing catalog, 1914:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/43328e.jpg

Bill Burgess
01-27-2009, 05:13 PM
Ty Cobb, Tigers' OF, 1922

OleMissCub
01-27-2009, 05:56 PM
can't see it Bill.

OleMissCub
01-28-2009, 10:49 PM
Made these tonight. Hope y'all like them:



http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb.jpg

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb6.gif

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb3.gif

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb2.gif

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb5.gif

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff320/olemisscub/gcobb7.gif

csh19792001
02-03-2009, 05:04 PM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

Is that a coincidence that the card has 367 written on it? ;)

Bill Burgess
02-15-2009, 09:53 AM
1959: Ty Cobb, Warren Giles (NL Pres.), Walt Alston.

Bill Burgess
02-15-2009, 01:23 PM
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OleMissCub
02-15-2009, 10:01 PM
Can't see that last one. Seriously Bill...photobucket this stuff.

AutographCollector
02-15-2009, 10:04 PM
can't see it Bill.


Can't see that last one. Seriously Bill...photobucket this stuff.

Weird. I see all of the pics just fine. This site is silly like that.

Bill Burgess
02-15-2009, 10:26 PM
I have been working on Meet The Sports Writers for weeks now, to upgrade it. I should be done in about a week or less.

My next project is to photo bucket all of my photo threads. Hopefully, that will fix all the invisibility problems that some members have been tortured by, and fix it for good. I hope.
That project alone should take a few months.

OleMissCub
02-16-2009, 12:52 AM
Hah, great shot of Tyrus in the car!

Bill Burgess
02-16-2009, 06:29 AM
Looks like a racing car.

Bill Burgess
02-25-2009, 07:00 AM
Does anyone think that this is Ty Cobb?

I received this email and the person is asking me if it is Ty.
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Hi Bill……….I am a collector of Canadian WW 1 memorabilia and came across a photograph of “The Captain of the US Army baseball team 1918” The officer is holding a baseball bat in the photograph. It was in an album with many photographs and postcards of mainly Canadian soldiers taken in England and France. I live in Canada and am not a big baseball fan but he does look like Ty Cobb. I have looked at a few pictures for comparison and think it is him. I have read of his service in the Chemical Corps and the date fits.

I was looking at your site and found it quite interesting and helpful. If I send you the picture could you take a look at it and tell me what you think. I await your reply and thanks in advance for your time…………Regards, Greg
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The bottom 2 photos are Ty from that time period for comparison.

BSmile
02-25-2009, 09:50 AM
Does anyone think that this is Ty Cobb?

I received this email and the person is asking me if it is Ty.
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Hi Bill……….I am a collector of Canadian WW 1 memorabilia and came across a photograph of “The Captain of the US Army baseball team 1918” The officer is holding a baseball bat in the photograph. It was in an album with many photographs and postcards of mainly Canadian soldiers taken in England and France. I live in Canada and am not a big baseball fan but he does look like Ty Cobb. I have looked at a few pictures for comparison and think it is him. I have read of his service in the Chemical Corps and the date fits.



Tough call!
My first gut reaction was no....it's not Ty.
However, he looks A LOT like him..AND he's holding that bat...AND the military connection. I can't say for sure, but I'll stick with my gut and say that it's just a coincidental look-alike.

AutographCollector
02-25-2009, 10:06 AM
Does anyone think that this is Ty Cobb?

I received this email and the person is asking me if it is Ty.
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Hi Bill……….I am a collector of Canadian WW 1 memorabilia and came across a photograph of “The Captain of the US Army baseball team 1918” The officer is holding a baseball bat in the photograph. It was in an album with many photographs and postcards of mainly Canadian soldiers taken in England and France. I live in Canada and am not a big baseball fan but he does look like Ty Cobb. I have looked at a few pictures for comparison and think it is him. I have read of his service in the Chemical Corps and the date fits.

I was looking at your site and found it quite interesting and helpful. If I send you the picture could you take a look at it and tell me what you think. I await your reply and thanks in advance for your time…………Regards, Greg
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Here's a shot of Ty from that time period for comparison.

Look at the eyes. In my opinion NO that is NOT Ty.

GaryL
02-25-2009, 01:52 PM
I say no, too...but it's a tough call. It's a case for BMarlowe for sure. First thing he'll do is look at the ears...they look like a pretty close match, but I still don't think it's him.

Bill Burgess
02-25-2009, 02:12 PM
I also don't think it's Ty. Yes, it does bear a striking resemblance, and he is choking his bat. But, there is a tell.

He is standing there holding his bat in a right-handed stance. Wouldn't the more natural pose be to hold his bat as a left-handed hitter?

I wonder if Ty's brother, Paul was in the army? It does look like Ty, but I think it is not him.

OleMissCub
02-25-2009, 07:19 PM
The thought that the guy could be Ty never crossed my mind. I don't really see any resemblance, and as much as some of us look at Ty pics, I'm surprised anybody even gave it a second thought.

The first thing I noticed was the right handed stance.

btw...the US Army really needs to go back to those dress uniforms. The Navy and especially the Marines still look pretty awesome in their dress uniforms. The Army...not so much. They look hideous these days. But those old uniforms with the belts and everything just look spiffy as hell.

Bill Burgess
02-25-2009, 08:41 PM
I PMed bmarlowe to seek his expertise. He is the deepest authenticator we have, by far.

Here is what he said.

"It does resemble Cobb, but a comparison of the very visible left ear with the left ear in verified Cobb photos shows that this is not Ty Cobb. If Greg wants to see the actual comparison, let me know."

I reported that back to Greg. I'm sure he appreciates our feedback. Thank you, guys, for weighing in with your impressions.

E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 02:07 PM
Clearer version, but autographed, of post #88, and a little more information:

This is indeed Ty feeding DiMaggio a peach at Yankee Stadium in 1957 during an Old Timers' game.
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E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 02:26 PM
And a cleaner version of the photo of Ty in post #147

The info I got says this is from 1911, and Ty was awarded the Chalmers automobile for being the batting champ that year. This photo was in Ty's personal scrapbook which he left to Rex Teeslink upon his death. Teeslink, an Emory University med. school student, had been Cobb's caretaker for about 2 years. I think this one is from 1911, but it was awarded for being deemed the "most important and useful player to his club and to the league at large in point of deportment and value of services rendered," by Hugh Chalmers of the car company.

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Although, another photo I have, listed as from 1910, shows Ty with a Chalmers car as an award for being the league's "MVP". This photo was accompanied by one of Nap Lajoie in his the same Chalmers automobile, which would seem to place it in 1910, but the car was awarded for the batting title that year, not being the "MVP".

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E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 02:58 PM
Ty and teammates on a little more antiquated mode of transportation

E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 03:06 PM
I noticed you guys recognized the torn jersey Ty had while he was sporting the Ray Chapman memorial armband. After I got two photos of Ty with that jersey, I kept looking for more. Here is what I've come across, other than what has already been posted (there are three more examples from me in post 117):

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:09 PM
Ty and teammates on a little more antiquated mode of transportation
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Hmm. I can see every picture in this thread except for yours E.Banks. I tried this thread in Firefox and Internet Explorer...odd. Is it the same as this picture?

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Ty Smiles For The Camera

E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 03:13 PM
Yes that's the one. Has it already been posted?

I wonder why they're not showing. It's always worked fine for me...

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:15 PM
Ty Warming Up

E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Tyrus taking some BP with the shades on

Popeye Ty?

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:22 PM
Ty and a Red Sox Buddy
Anybody know who the Red Sox player is??

E.Banks#14
04-10-2009, 03:23 PM
Ty and a Red Sox Buddy
Anybody know who the Red Sox player is??

I was wondering the same thing, the face looks familiar but I can't place it.

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:29 PM
What's up with that uniform on Ty??!?! Looks like Pirates' skipper, Billy Southworth, welcoming Ty, 1922.
While Ty's uniform vaguely resembles a Detroit D, it is actually a Pittsburgh P, for that 1922 season.

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:32 PM
Ty with some suits
Anybody have a guess on the other guys?

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:35 PM
Ty with who? He looks so familiar...

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:36 PM
I love this one...classic.

BSmile
04-10-2009, 03:44 PM
Ty Manages From The Dugout - 1924
I think this is my favorite non-action Ty picture.

Honus Wagner Rules
04-10-2009, 05:20 PM
Ty with who? He looks so familiar...

I believe that is Barney Dryfuess, the man that signed Honus Wagner.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DBarney%2520Dreyfuss%26y%3DSearch%26fr2%3Dt ab-web%26fr%3Dytff1-msgff&w=500&h=282&imgurl=www.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2Fimages%2F200712%2Fx20071204ho_t icket_500.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2F07338%2F838934-63.stm&size=37.1kB&name=x20071204ho_tick...&p=Barney+Dreyfuss&oid=afc08baf0022a1e0&no=12&tt=51&sigr=11i8bg1do&sigi=120dhlcn4&sigb=13dr0bvog

BSmile
04-10-2009, 05:29 PM
I believe that is Barney Dryfuess, the man that signed Honus Wagner.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DBarney%2520Dreyfuss%26y%3DSearch%26fr2%3Dt ab-web%26fr%3Dytff1-msgff&w=500&h=282&imgurl=www.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2Fimages%2F200712%2Fx20071204ho_t icket_500.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2F07338%2F838934-63.stm&size=37.1kB&name=x20071204ho_tick...&p=Barney+Dreyfuss&oid=afc08baf0022a1e0&no=12&tt=51&sigr=11i8bg1do&sigi=120dhlcn4&sigb=13dr0bvog

Yes! I believe you're correct....nice.

Bill Burgess
04-11-2009, 07:49 AM
I believe that is Barney Dryfuess, the man that signed Honus Wagner.

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fs earch%2Fimages%3Fei%3DUTF-8%26p%3DBarney%2520Dreyfuss%26y%3DSearch%26fr2%3Dt ab-web%26fr%3Dytff1-msgff&w=500&h=282&imgurl=www.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2Fimages%2F200712%2Fx20071204ho_t icket_500.jpg&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.post-gazette.com%2Fpg%2F07338%2F838934-63.stm&size=37.1kB&name=x20071204ho_tick...&p=Barney+Dreyfuss&oid=afc08baf0022a1e0&no=12&tt=51&sigr=11i8bg1do&sigi=120dhlcn4&sigb=13dr0bvog
Possible, but I doubt it. We're talking 1918-20, and this man looks younger than Dreyfuss would have looked at that time.

Bill Burgess
04-11-2009, 07:54 AM
I love this one...classic.
The Lion and the Tiger?

Bill Burgess
04-11-2009, 07:56 AM
What's up with that uniform on Ty??!?!
Is that Pirates' skipper, Bill McKechnie?

Bill Burgess
04-11-2009, 08:43 AM
BSmile, you've done it again. You have managed to discover a new set of Ty shots. I've seen some before but never in this good a condition. Obviously, you have stumbled upon a new gold mine of photos. Keep them coming.

I'm lovin it!

Also, E.Banks#14, I hope you don't mind that I removed the attachment coding from your photos. Whenever anyone uses that coding that looks like a paper clip in 'Go Advanced' , there are a small number of members who will no longer be able see the photos.

Fever has a serious coding problem that prevents us from that 'paper clip' attachment code. Another alternate method of solving the problem is using the photo bucket site coding. That also solves the 'photo invisibility problem'. That is the one I now am converting all of my own photos too. I haven't finished the process, but am well on the way there. Over half my thousands of photos have now been photo bucketed.

OleMissCub
04-12-2009, 12:29 PM
http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67590&stc=1&d=1239400953

Great photo that was posted above. It's obviously from the same day that this video was taken:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6620/tycobbswingmh2.gif

BSmile
04-12-2009, 04:18 PM
http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=67590&stc=1&d=1239400953

Great photo that was posted above. It's obviously from the same day that this video was taken:

http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6620/tycobbswingmh2.gif

Wow! Good call!!!

OleMissCub
04-12-2009, 04:23 PM
I've often thought the bat wiggle a bit curious in that film. He must have just been goofing around for the camera or something because I can't imagine that he did that when he was really at bat in a game seeing as how he always preached about limiting the amount of bat movement at the plate.

Bill Burgess
05-30-2009, 08:02 AM
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http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/60743-1.jpg

OleMissCub
06-01-2009, 05:17 PM
Some pics from Somewhere in Georgia:

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb4-1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb5-1.jpg

http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb6-1.jpg

OleMissCub
06-01-2009, 05:17 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh153/OleMissCub17/cobb1-2.jpg

Bill Burgess
06-02-2009, 10:09 AM
Question: Does anyone believe that my use of sepia improves the original b/w photos.

Below is a case in point. The very famous Jimmy Austin sliding moment. Does anyone have an opinion? Anyone?

http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/Image3-18.jpg
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/Image3-17.jpg

Bill Burgess
06-02-2009, 09:10 PM
My brothers. I have been working on my Photoshop skills of lightening/darkening, applying sepia coloring.

I am finishing up my Ty Cobb Gallery. I would love to hear any public comments as to whether or not you like my efforts.

Here is the link. http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=80626&page=9

Please let me know what you think of my efforts. Thanks, guys.

Bill Burgess

OleMissCub
06-02-2009, 09:45 PM
I think the Sepia tone looks really good Bill! Nice work!

Bill Burgess
06-02-2009, 09:56 PM
Thanks, OleMissCub!! I've really been working on the nuances to get the shadings just right. Takes a while for each photo because each one is different and you can't just use a formula.