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George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 04:43 PM
Well since there's a Rare Babe Ruth picture thread, I've decided to make a Rare Ty Cobb picture thread.

Masters Invitational Golf Tournament: Augusta, Georgia: Ty with Bobby Jones
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/augusta/images/christian/6.jpg

Ty against a White Sox team, 1907-09.
http://www.myclassiclyrics.com/artist_biographies/Ty_Cobb_Biography_2.jpg

Ty Cobb sliding towards Frank Baker of the Phil. A's, 1909-12
http://www.umass.edu/pubaffs/jackie/cobb.gif

Ty Cobb with a dog: At home in Atherton, CA, February, 1953
http://www.spirit-wrestlers.com/photos/1953_Ty_Cobb_sm.jpg

Ty Cobb teaching the art of swinging
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/adc/10120897A.jpg

Ty Cobb posing: 1910
http://www.qualityautographs.com/item.pics/medimg/cobb_ty_baseball_mag_photo.jpg

Ty Cobb and Lajoie: 1910-12, Bennett Park
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbLajoie1909_photo.jpg

Ty Cobb and Navin: April 25, 1913: Ending his holdout and signing with Frank Navin.
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbNavin_photo.jpg

Eddie Collins, Lena Blackburne, Ty Cobb: 1915
http://baseballrubbingmud.com/Lena%20Ty%20Eddie.JPG

Ty Cobb with a young fan
http://www.tycobbhealthcare.org/museum/ty2.jpg

I'm sure Ty Cobb experts has already seen all these pictures, but I still wanted to make a new thread about it. Hopefully you guys don't get mad me for doing so. Hopefully you enjoy them as well, because I sure do. I'm a huge fan of Ty Cobb by the way, second favorite player after Babe Ruth, which my grandfather saw both of them play, he's so lucky.

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:15 PM
Here are some Ty Cobb photos I've found.

1913

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/13500/13533v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:16 PM
Ty Cobb Day celebration, May 10, 1924, Navin Field. Detroit dignitaries presented Ty with a set of classical books.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11300/11306v.jpg
http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11300/11307v.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Welcome to Fever, my friend. Ever see our Ty photo gallery? Ty Cobb Photos (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=28106&page=9)

Matter of fact, we have lots of photo galleries. Behold the wonders. This way to the Treasure Room.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Historical, Archival Photographs (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306)--- Pre-1900 Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41332)--- Negro L. Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41331)--- Brooklyn Dodgers Photos (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=41860)---Fever Member's Photos Gallery (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40925)---Runningshoes Presents: Photo Op (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=46723)---Meet The Sports Writers (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=57538)

Photos of the following individual players---Hank Aaron (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58318)---Pete Alexander (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54211)---Ty Cobb (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=28106&page=9)---Eddie Collins (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54920)---Sam Crawford (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=71637)---Jimmy Foxx (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=55628)---Lou Gehrig (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54351)---Rogers Hornsby (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=56377)---Joe Jackson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=33810)---Walter Johnson (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54344)---Nap Lajoie (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=72124)---Connie Mack (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=59240)---John McGraw (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68164)---Mickey Mantle (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=67997)---Christy Mathewson (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=764312#post764312)---Willie Mays (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=54723)--- Babe Ruth (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=21998&page=7)---George Sisler (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=960330#post960330)---Tris Speaker (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=38504)---Pie Traynor (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=37345)---Rube Waddell (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40628&page=5)--- Honus Wagner (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=13366)---Ted Williams (http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=58624)---Zack Wheat (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?p=682455#post682455)

Still, some of your photos are wonderful too, and we will be able to find good niches for some of them in our many galleries. Thanks for sharing such great shots, my new friend!!

Bill

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Ty Cobb, Detroit, and Joe Jackson, Cleveland, standing alongside each other, each holding bats, 1913

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3b40000/3b43000/3b43900/3b43970r.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:20 PM
Ty Cobb safe at third after making a triple, 8/16/24, Griffith Park.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11900/11955v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:21 PM
1917

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/24500/24555v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:22 PM
Ty Cobb visits Christy Mathewson, New York, NL during 1911 World Series.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/09800/09869v.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:23 PM
FRONT:
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1400/1480/1483fr.jpg

BACK:
http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1400/1480/1483br.jpg

Urbanshocker13
02-17-2008, 05:23 PM
Great shots of TY!! My god, Dosen't Cobb look just like his dog in that one photo!

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 05:25 PM
Thanks for the welcome William. I've been browsing these forums for a month before joining and I've read a lot of your messages, and you seem to know a lot about Ty Cobb. I wish my grandfather was still alive, he knew a lot about him as well, and I would of told him about these forums. I remember when I was younger he told me a lot of stories about Ty Cobb, he said that he was such joy to watch. He saw him play over 20 times, I'm so jealous. He took a picture of Ty Cobb at a game he went to, but his house burned down and all his baseball pictures got burnt down. It's ashame because they were incredible pictures, and I'm sure you guys would enjoy them a whole lot.

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:25 PM
FRONT:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/2000/2090/2098fr.jpg

BACK:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/2000/2090/2098br.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:28 PM
FRONT:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1700/1710/1711fr.jpg

BACK:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/bbc/1700/1710/1711br.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-17-2008, 05:28 PM
Heaven. I'm in heaven! Where did you guys did up these beauties. I've seen some of them before, but never in such pristine resolution, or such enlarged size. Love seeing them enlarged, and without the usual distortion!!

Kudos to my new-found heroes!! Hope you guys never stop with these treasures. Ty Cobb Photo Gallery will now how a fresh infusion of much needed Red Meat! Umm. Yum yum. So good. Can anyone share the links to the Plunder Room? Pretty please with a cherry on top of the whipped cream??

Honus Wagner Rules
02-17-2008, 05:35 PM
Ty Cobb safe at third after making a triple, 8/16/24

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/11900/11955v.jpg

Why are the left field stands empty? What team is Cobb and the Tigers playing in this photo?

EdTarbusz
02-17-2008, 05:49 PM
On Saturday 8/16/1924 the Tigers were playing in Washington. Going into that game, the Tigers were a half game behind the Yankees, and the Nats were in third, 2 games out. My guess is that the stands were empty because the fans were waiting for Sunday when Walter Johnson would be pitching.

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:52 PM
On Saturday 8/16/1924 the Tigers were playing in Washington. Going into that game, the Tigers were a half game behind the Yankees, and the Nats were in third, 2 games out.

Nice work Ed.

Here is another of the great Ty Cobb. Honus Wagner, Pittsburgh NL and Ty Cobb, Detroit AL, 1909.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3a20000/3a29000/3a29600/3a29628r.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:54 PM
1913.

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/npcc/19100/19121v.jpg

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 05:54 PM
http://www.famousfoto.com/B156.JPG

January, 1950: Dr. Stewart D. Brown, with Ty at the opening of his hospital to Royston.
http://www.tycobbhealthcare.org/museum/cob4.jpg

Detroit owner, Frank Navin, conferring with his manager, Ty Cobb, 1921-22, Navin Park
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/CobbNavin_photo2.jpg

http://www.newgeorgiaencyclopedia.org/media_content/m-1354.jpg

http://www.ebsventures.com/bbpast/bbpcobb002.jpg

With Tris Speaker at Yankee Stadium, 1950's.
http://www.davesdougout.com/photos/46Cobb.jpg

http://baseba2.fatcow.com/japan.1.jpg

http://baseba2.fatcow.com/images/cobbshawkey.jpg

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~oldnewspapers/11grit_10_20_18_cobb.jpg

Ty Cobb/Jack Fournier, 1914
http://quebec.sabr.org/photo_cobbfournier.jpg

George H Ruth
02-17-2008, 05:56 PM
Here is what we have: http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=533756&postcount=300
http://www.nps.gov/history/nr/travel/detroit/buildings/tiger2.jpg

Here is what we were able to find. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=499521&postcount=62
http://www.thedeadballera.com/Photos/TyAndWalter.jpg

With Judge Landis, about 1921-22.
http://www.wgallery.com/graphics/tycomhi.jpg

Here is what we have. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=660449&postcount=229
http://www.markreubengallery.com/bs_baseball/baseball_best/0060_lge.jpg

1928. Wearing a Phil. A's uniform.
http://www.recollectics.com/photogal/tycobb.jpg

http://www.josephwallace.com/books/autobiography/tycobb.jpg

On the Phil. A's, 1927: Eddie Collins on the left, Ty in the middle.
http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/wmaq/early_wmaq/images/hal_totten_comiskey_field_1926.jpg

locke40
02-17-2008, 05:57 PM
7/21/1910

http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/ggbain/08000/08008v.jpg

BSmile
02-17-2008, 09:49 PM
A strange variation on the Detroit "D". Not to mention, the D on his jersey is torn. Looks like he's sporting a black arm-band on his left arm too. ~B (The photo is 1921, and the armband is in tribute to Ray Chapman who was killed the year before. Whenever you see a team with that armband, it's 1921, probably.)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/Ty20Cobb20-201926.jpg

Second picture, an unbelievable assembly of HOF'ers at Toot's place in NYC including Ty. Could you imagine walking in there that day with a blank baseball for autographs!!
(This Hall of Fame shot must have been taken in 1951. Foxx/Ott were elected in 1951, and Arlie Latham died November 29, 1952. Also, since Harry Heilmann/Paul Waner were elected in 1952, and do not appear in this photo, it must be at the 1951 Cooperstown induction ceremonies.)
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/tootsteam5B15D.jpg

BSmile
02-17-2008, 10:59 PM
Here's a picture of the watch that Ty Cobb received as a member of the 1908 A.L. Champion Detroit Tigers. This was in the days before rings were given. It came up for auction several years ago, I don't remember what it went for. Quite a lot I'm sure.
Oh, and Bill....if you've got correct info/dates about any of the pic's, I'm sure we'd all love to hear it in the spirit of historical correctness.
Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 06:11 AM
William go ahead I know your a big Ty Cobb fan and you've been studying him for a long time. I just hope that you enjoy the pictures that I have posted. I'll be posting some fresh ones soon as well, hopefully you'll them them as well.

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 07:11 AM
Ty Cobb advertised in the paper
http://bss.sfsu.edu/tygiel/hist490/19001918/19001918photos/tycobb/COBBAD.jpg

Very rare Baseball card
http://centuryoldcards.com/images/e121cobb.jpg

Ty Cobb with his teamates 1907
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-3.jpg

Ty Cobb posing with a Bat: 1913
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-16.jpg

Ty Cobb staring at someone: 1913
http://www.viewsofthepast.com/photos/sports/baseball/sp-bap-17.jpg

Addie Joss' Death Benefit Game, Monday, July 24, 1911
Here is what we have.---http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81
http://www.leaguepark.org/images/Joss_allstar_game.jpg

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 09:18 AM
William go ahead I know your a big Ty Cobb fan and you've been studying him for a long time. I just hope that you enjoy the pictures that I have posted. I'll be posting some fresh ones soon as well, hopefully you'll them them as well.
OK, George, I will. I am a huge Ty fan, and thought I'd seem bout most of his photos. But you've been able to find some new ones I'd not seen before.

It looks like the Library of Congress website, but I could be wrong. I've searched that site for Ty pics before, and must have overlooked some that you've found.

Also, the ones I found were smaller, and when I blew them up, they distorted. So, I am delighted that you, locke40 and Bsmile have found some new previously undiscovered 'buried gold', that had eluded me!!! You have certainly made my day. These and the rare Babe Ruth shots are a wonderful way to wake up! This is just so satisfying.

Any links you can share?

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 09:24 AM
Let me do some more research and I'll give you some links my friend.

Last night i've been reading a lot of your Ty Cobb articles, and there's some story's that you posted that I remember my grandfather telling me. Like I said in my previous message, I wish he was still alive, so he could have a nice chit chat with you, he's seen over 30 games of the great Ty Cobb, so he's learned a lot about one of the greatest ball players of all time. I was really young when he told me those stories so I don't remember them all.

I just wish his house never went down in flames because he had great baseball pictures and other valuable stuff of 1900-1930 around, one of the greatest baseball ERA. I remember him showing me a picture of Ty Cobb in one of the games that he went to see him, it was a close up of him, it was faboulous.

But when I have more time i'll find you more pictures and links for ya.

Can't believe I havent found this website earlier.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 09:36 AM
Yeah, Ty Cobb actually had a candy bar for a short while too.

1) Ty Cobb Milk Caramel Nut Bar Wrapper - circa. 1925

2) Advertising board for Ty Cobb Milk Caramel Nut Bar

3) Very rare previously unopened Colgan's Mint Chips (gum) Tin - circa. 1910

4) An ad for Colgan's Mint Chip from The Saturday Evening Post (from the era)

Enjoy! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 09:50 AM
Love you guys! Hope you never stop!! I'm insatiable.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 09:58 AM
What the heck....I found it, why not post it!?!!
Apparently from 1916.
~B

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 10:03 AM
Ty Cobb swinging, 1928, with the Phil. A's
http://www.aneuroa.org/assets/c20gfx/1920-gfx/ty-cobb-a.jpg

Ty Cobb staring down
http://search.netscape.com/search/redir?src=image&clickedItemURN=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.detnews.com%2Fd n%2Fhistory%2Fbase%2Fimages%2Fcobb1.gif&moduleId=image_details.jsp.M&clickedItemDescription=Image Details

Ty Cobb looking stunning
http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/images/2007/07/16/kwBW4LnL.jpg

Ty Cobb with young fan
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/hughie/images/peach.gif

BSmile
02-18-2008, 11:34 AM
1) Ty with Ted Williams during Spring Training in Scottsdale, AZ - 1960. This was apparently taken before Ty swore to never talk to Ted again because of a comment Ted made about how Rogers Hornsby outhit Ty a few seasons. A must read about Ty is Al Stump's "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live".

2) Ty with Mickey in the dugout, 1960. Mickey looks a little nervous...Lord knows what Ty is teling him right there.

3) Finally, an ad for wine featuring Ty from 1940. Ummm....ok.

Cheers! ~B

locke40
02-18-2008, 12:00 PM
William,
I found all those Ty pictures from the Library of Congress website. They have a wealth of information over there, and it's all in the public domain!!

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 12:01 PM
Ty with compatriots Sam Crawford and Bobby Veach in the famous Detroit outfield which didn't get along very often:

http://img01.picoodle.com/img/img01/4/2/18/f_veachcobbcrm_600f247.jpg

But they sometimes did!
http://img31.picoodle.com/img/img31/4/2/18/f_cobbcrawveam_aa6fa6c.jpg

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 12:02 PM
A must read about Ty is Al Stump's "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live".


Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 12:16 PM
Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

For instance?

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Ty Cobb at a baseball game, chatting with Detroit owner, Walter O. Briggs, at Briggs Stadium, 1930's.
http://images.google.fr/url?q=http://pictopia.com/perl/get_image%3Fprovider_id%3D220%26size%3D550x550_mb% 26ptp_photo_id%3D500641&usg=AFQjCNFx95x1w3WWGf0uW6lBsTe-QRtXpw

Gehrig, Speaker, Cobb, Ruth: 1928
http://www.trisspeaker.us/images/4star.jpg

Carl Hubbell, Ty Cobb, Estel Crabtree,
http://www.redwingsbaseball.com/images/history/RWHOF/crabtreehonored.jpg

Danny Olson interviewing Ty Cobb
http://www.dannyolson.com/images/scrapbook/tycobb.jpg

July 27, 1941: Cobb, Ruth, Speaker:
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/prod_lrg_images/659/205415659.jpg

1924 Tigers
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/base/images/tigers.gif

Ty Cobb and Nop Lajoie receive new cars: 1910
http://www.bos.frb.org/peanuts/sptspage/images/s6i.jpg

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 01:14 PM
Except for the fact that it is mostly exaggerations and outright lies.

For instance?

Well, his story about Williams and Cobb having a falling out is disputed by Williams himself. Williams later said that Stump was "full of it" and that the invent described in the article was merely invented by Stump.

Stump says in the article that he spent the final 10 months of Cobb's life as his constant companion. In fact, Stump was only with Cobb for a few weeks.

Stump says that Cobb's funeral was only attended by three men from baseball. In fact, hundreds of people from baseball were planning on coming to the funeral when Cobb's daughter, Shirley, asked to have a small private ceremony and for no one to come.

Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

George H Ruth
02-18-2008, 01:57 PM
Ty Cobb with some kids
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/3.jpg

Cobb signing an autograph in 1925
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/4.jpg

Ty Cobb picking up the hats on Labor Day
http://info.detnews.com/dn/history/cobb/images/7.jpg

BSmile
02-18-2008, 03:02 PM
Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

Indeed. Stump's story, on face value, is quite a wild story. I would imagine there would have to be some shreds of truth to it. I'm mostly curious about what Stump descibes as an insane, alcohol infused drive through a snow storm to Carson City.

~B

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 03:26 PM
Perhaps Bill or someone else can into more detail on this than I have. Regardless, Stump's article is very, very fantastical.

Indeed. Stump's story, on face value, is quite a wild story. I would imagine there would have to be some shreds of truth to it. I'm mostly curious about what Stump descibes as an insane, alcohol infused drive through a snow storm to Carson City.

~B
I remember reading that story when it first came out. In fact, I have it in my files. It didn't bother me. Came out right after Ty died. I well remember Stump's description of that wild descend in a blizzard, from Ty's Lake Tahoe cabin, down that snowy mountain side to Las Vegas. Or was it Reno?

Why would a man who had been accepted by Ty into his confidances, as his friend, choose to portray a friend in such an unattractive way? Al stabbed Ty in the back for the small pittance of a magazine article fee.

That article made Al Stump an unwelcome person in the Cobb family circles. They all resented him and refused to talk to him ever again.

But that article is unimportant. Ty was dying as his cancer traveled from his brain down his spine. He was on pain killer medication, and was also alcoholic by then too. He was pretty lonely and took Stump in. But Stump didn't spend that much time with him. Certainly not 10 full months. More like a few weeks.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 03:27 PM
It, of course, should be noted that Stump chose not to share "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live" until AFTER Cobb had passed away...so we'll never really know what did or didn't happen during their time together (for the most part).

BSmile
02-18-2008, 03:31 PM
But that article is unimportant. Ty was dying as his cancer traveled from his brain down his spine. He was on pain killer medication, and was also alcoholic by then too.

Yeah, whatever the case may be, Stump caught Ty at a really bad time in his life...both physically and mentally. It certainly doesn't make me view "Ty Cobb - The Ballplayer" any differently.

~B

OleMissCub
02-18-2008, 03:33 PM
It, of course, should be noted that Stump chose not to share "Ty Cobb's Wild Ten-Month Fight To Live" until AFTER Cobb had passed away...so we'll never really know what did or didn't happen during their time together (for the most part).

That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

However, I view it as crappy in TWO ways. First, by publishing it after Cobb's death, he knew that Cobb wouldn't be around to challenge the veracity of the statements contained therein. Second, he waited till after Cobb died so the article would have more interest and thus make him a more popular person. Although I can't say that I blame him for the second one; that was just a clever business decision.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 03:39 PM
That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

Well, that's not the way I would view it. I don't know, nor will I ever know what happened during their meetings together. For all I know, Al could have totally made it all up! Seriously, I'm not on either person's side in this debate. Like I said though, it doesn't change the way I view Ty Cobb's magnificent achievments on the ballfield.

Bill Burgess
02-18-2008, 05:42 PM
That could be viewed as a "good part" on Al's part if you want to view it that way.

However, I view it as crappy in TWO ways. First, by publishing it after Cobb's death, he knew that Cobb wouldn't be around to challenge the veracity of the statements contained therein. Second, he waited till after Cobb died so the article would have more interest and thus make him a more popular person. Although I can't say that I blame him for the second one; that was just a clever business decision.
This isn't a debate on Al Stump's taste in publishing that article. His piece never bothered me in the least. But it sure enraged Ty's best friend, Taylor Spink!

Al Stump's article, 'Ty Cobb's Wild, 10-Month Fight To Live', appeared in 'True, the Man's Magazine', in December, 1961. It came out in 3 installments.

Taylor Spink, of the Sporting News, had just finished publishing a series on Ty, by Harry Salinger. Harry had died in 1958. Taylor republished his Ty series from from May 24, 1950 - July, 1950. in 25 installments from August to November, 1961.

And just as they finished, here comes this Stump article. Now Taylor rises to the occasion and fires up the presses!
And Taylor was perfectly positioned to do something about it. Taylor spent from August, 1961 to February, 1962, having many different friends of Ty to refute the many unkind criticisms that Stump had published. Taylor really rammed it up Al's butt with a red-hot poker. Below are just a sampling of the stuff Taylor published, in defense of Ty. Starting in early December, he ran off this pro-Ty series of pieces.


Jack McDonald - December 6, 1961, pp. 15, column 2.
JG Taylor Spink - December 13, 1961, pp. 3, 4, 14, 20 & 26. (shares letters: 'The Ty Cobb I Knew') (Part 1)
Fred Haney - December 13, 1961, pp. 14, column 1, & pp. 20 & 26.
JG Taylor Spink - December 20, pp. 11, 12, 14. (shares letters: 'The Ty Cobb I Knew') (Part 2)
Pants Rowland, Red Faber, Ray Schalk, Red Ormsby - December 20, pp. 14,
Sid Keener - December 27, 1961, pp. 11, 12, 14.
Wilbur Wood - December 27, 1961, pp. 14 (side bar)
Joe Cronin - January 3, 1962, pp. 17, 18.
Dr. Stewart Brown - January 3, 1962, pp. 18, 22.
Eddie Collins - January 3, 1962, pp. 17. (side bar)
Frank Baker - January 3, 1962, pp. 22.
Edgar Brands - January 3, 1962. (side bar)
Ed Bang - January 10, 1962, pp. 13, 14, 20. (Part 1.)
Del Baker - January 10, 1962, pp. 14.
W.C. Tuttle - January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 2. (letter)
Harry Hooper - January 10, 1962, pp. 15, column 2. (letter)
Ed Bang - January 17, 1962, pp. 11, 12. (Part 2.)
Red Ormsby - January 17, 1962, pp. 12, 14.
C. William 'Bill' Duncan - January 17, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Joe E. Brown - January 24, 1962, pp. 11, 12.
John F. Steadman - January 24, 1962, pp. 12.
Al Schacht - January 24, 1962, pp. 12.
Danny Goodman - January 24, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Zack Taylor - January 24, 1962, pp. 15. (letter)
Fred Lieb - January 31, 1962, pp. 11, 12.
Babe Herman - February 7, 1962, pp. 7. (excerpt)
Ernie Harwell - February 7, 1962, pp. 11.
Steve O'Neil - February 7, 1962, pp.33. (side bar)
Jimmy Dykes - February 21, 1962, pp. 31. (side bar)

The Sporting News put out one side-bar after another, article after article. Taylor looked after his friends interests like a father. Stump's professional reputation took a huge hit as month after month, his credibility was shredded beyond repair.

Everyone challenged his motives. Everyone questioned why he would attack someone who had taken him to Coopertown, to Lake Tahoe, had paid his traveling expenses, picked up his meal tabs, etc.

Guess how many other sports celebrities invited Al to do work for them? ZERO. His sports gigs ended. Al waited 35 years to publish his next Cobb project. His book Cobb came out in 1994, and basicly picked up where his article had left off. He waited until most of his critics had died. Al was a class act.

BSmile
02-18-2008, 10:07 PM
William,
Thanks for the insight regarding Taylor Spink...very interesting....but now...
Back to some images!!!

1) Ty Cobb on a 1928 Tour of Japan

2) A really cool 1940's "See-How Movie Viewer" toy featuring Ty.

3) Very rare 1910's Ty Cobb tobacco tin.

Cheers! ~B

hellborn
02-19-2008, 06:02 AM
Ty Cobb advertised in the paper


That drawing of Ty looks like an English country parson from the 1800s...I have a REALLY hard time imagining Ty wearing a suit like that in public.
I wonder if "Royal Tailors" caught on??

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 08:55 AM
What the heck....I found it, why not post it!?!!
Apparently from 1916.
~B

Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 08:56 AM
Ty's last year with the Tigers. A strange variation on the Detroit "D". Not to mention, the D on his jersey is torn. Looks like he's sporting a black arm-band on his left arm too. ~B (The photo is 1921, and the armband is in tribute to Ray Chapman who was killed the year before. Whenever you see a team with that armband, it's 1921, probably.)
35899


Teams were wearing armbands in honor of Chapman at least as early as 8/19/1920.

BSmile
02-19-2008, 09:46 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

Brian McKenna
02-19-2008, 09:57 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

That's not Cobb's card is it? I wish the backs and fronts of those registration cards matched up. Nearly impossible to run a computer search for the correct backs.

OleMissCub
02-19-2008, 10:04 AM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.

For Ty it should have said:

Color of Eyes: Gray
Color of Hair: Light Brown
Bald: Almost

:-)

Bill Burgess
02-19-2008, 02:31 PM
Draft registration card is more likely from 1917.

Yup.....
May 23, 1917 to be exact.
That is the other side of the piece of paper. It is indeed for Tyrus.

That document is from the World War I Civilian Draft Registration, which included 98% of all US males born between 1873-1898. They are available from Ancestry.com.

I have personally milked those databases dry. They have one's exact date of birth, occupation, employer, eye/hair color, and a ton of other good information. Have given me tons of dates of birth, middle names for my sports writers, prominent baseball figures.

They also have all the Federal Census' from 1790 to 1930, and many other census data too. Many states ran their own.

But the downside is that they do ask for money. It's a for-pay website. But I found out that the Palo Alto Library carries the full range of databases. Now I'm saved $120./year.

Good find.

Bill Burgess
02-19-2008, 02:33 PM
Teams were wearing armbands in honor of Chapman at least as early as 8/19/1920.
This is true. Some teams adopted the black armbands right away, others later, or the next season.

BSmile
02-20-2008, 01:29 PM
Got some real gems for this posting. I think William might like some of these ;)

1) Very Rare! Ty circa. 1902-04 with the Royston, GA team. That's Ty in the back row, third from the left with the bowler hat on.

2) Ty in action circa. 1920-1921. NOTE that he's wearing that uniform with the ripped D on the jersey and the black armband!!!

3) Large size pic of Ty signing for 1921 with an always cheerful Frank Nevin looking on.

4) Ty crosses the plate after HR #112 at Yankee Stadium in 1926.

5) Ty at home in Georgia, finally retired - 1930.

Cheers! ~B

(p.s. There's a ton of new rare Babe Ruth on the way....)

Bill Burgess
02-20-2008, 06:08 PM
What wonderful shots of Ty. I love you for posting these. I haven't seen many of them! I love when that happens. Where did you dig these up?

If you can include the sources, that'd be great. I always do too. Thanks so much for these fantastic gifts. I feel like a mosquito in a nudist camp. So many folks, so little time.

OleMissCub
02-20-2008, 10:56 PM
1) Very Rare! Ty circa. 1902-04 with the Royston, GA team. That's Ty in the back row, third from the left with the bowler hat on.

Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 07:28 AM
Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.
I showed the original shot in the caption above that photo. It does list Ty as on the bottom left. In fact, it names all the boys.

The kid on the top left also looks like Ty.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 08:54 AM
I personally can't really say for sure which one is Ty in that pic that I found.
This is the description it came with:

The Earliest Known Ty Cobb Baseball Photograph. The letter "R" on the gentleman's sweater in the front row is for "Royston," the small Georgia town that grew the legendary Peach. And though a vintage ink notation on verso mistakenly locates the young Tyrus Cobb as seated at far left, the fierce, determined looking young man standing in the back row wearing a straw bowler and bow tie is clearly the future terror of the American League. We date this exceptionally scarce sepia toned photograph to the 1902 to 1904 range, when Ty was fifteen to seventeen years old. He huddles with the team manager and the other eight players of the Royston Nine for this posed studio shot, originally acquired from the estate of a Cobb teammate. A certain degree of wear is to be expected from a century-old photo, though the scattered small holes and assorted wrinkles do not dare to cross paths with the young Cobb.

Brian McKenna
02-21-2008, 01:35 PM
Everytime I've seen this shot in a book they list Ty as the runty kid in the front row on the far left. The kid looks much more like Ty than the guy in the bowler hat, in my opinion.

The runty kid has to be Cobb. The guy in the hat is clearly, at least to me, not Cobb.

BTW - isn't that a straw hat, not a bowler.

hellborn
02-21-2008, 01:45 PM
The runty kid has to be Cobb. The guy in the hat is clearly, at least to me, not Cobb.

BTW - isn't that a straw hat, not a bowler.

I agree...the kid has Cobb's eyes.
I've also never heard of that kind of hat being called a bowler...I think that it was called a straw boater.

EdTarbusz
02-21-2008, 01:51 PM
John Steed wore a bowler in the Avengers, and the guy in the photo isn't wearing the same type of hat as Steed. I think the kid in the lower left is Cobb. The guy in the straw hat doesn't look like Cobb to me.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 02:42 PM
After looking at the picture for a while, I'd have to agree that the kid in the front row to the left looks the most like Ty.

Attached are:

1) Ty Cobb at Shibe Park - 1910 (pretty rare)

2) I "corrected" the flaws in the pic of Ty (c.1920-21) with the armband etc. I think it looks much better now with the creases/scrapes removed.

3) Finally, a nice B&W autographed photo of Ty (inscribed in 12/14/1949)

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 02:59 PM
I agree...the kid has Cobb's eyes.
I've also never heard of that kind of hat being called a bowler...I think that it was called a straw boater.
or straw skimmer.

Bill Burgess
02-21-2008, 03:02 PM
After looking at the picture for a while, I'd have to agree that the kid in the front row to the left looks the most like Ty.

Attached are:

1) Ty Cobb at Shibe Park - 1910 (pretty rare)

2) I "corrected" the flaws in the pic of Ty (c.1920-21) with the armband etc. I think it looks much better now with the creases/scrapes removed.

3) Finally, a nice B&W autographed photo of Ty (inscribed in 12/14/1949)

Cheers! ~B
I just want to reassure you that you are doing a tremendous job in posting these warm and wonderful photos! And I, for one, appreciate it!!

Please don't mind our petty quibbling with dates, details, etc. We just can't help obsessing on this stuff. For the true baseball addict, these old photos, especially the ones we've not seen before, are more compelling and addicting than porn! Just can never get enough of these images. They are all we have left of that long-gone world of yore.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 03:52 PM
For the true baseball addict, these old photos, especially the ones we've not seen before, are more compelling and addicting than porn! Just can never get enough of these images. They are all we have left of that long-gone world of yore.

I understand William, believe me. That's why I seek out these photos...it's so much fun to find a picture that not only is prviously unknown to me, but will almost certainly be unknown to most anybody else. I think I'm tapped out of Ty Cobb images at the moment...but I'll find more...I always do.

In the meantime, keep an eye on my Babe Ruth thread...I've got a lot more pictures to post there.

Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm jealous that Bsmile is getting all the compliments for the pictures so I decided to try to find some really good ones. Lol just kidding. But hopefully you guys enjoy these, because I sure do.

Ty Cobb signing an autograph
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb25.jpg

April 14, 1950: Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker, Duffy Lewis at Dallas, TX. These three oldtime stars donned Dallas uniforms as members of a team which took the field against Tulsa's first batter at the opening of Texas League play in the Cotton Bowl. From left are: Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb and Duffy Lewis. Dizzy Dean pitched for the old-timers.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/003_big.jpg

Ty Cobb at the Congressional hearings on baseball in 1951
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb51.jpg

Ty Cobb take a swing at the San Francisco park in 1931
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/005_big.jpg

Ty Cobb riding in a vehicle in 1913
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/COBBCAR1913.jpg

Cobb with a golf club in 1939
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/01320079.jpg

Cobb with a golf club once again
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/01320080.jpg

Cobb well dressed in 1919
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb19.jpg

Babe Ruth and Cobb playing some nice games
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/BabeandCobbplayingchooseup1945.jpg

Which bat will Cobb choose?
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/1Tyin25b.jpg

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 05:04 PM
Ty Cobb at a young age 1907
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/1cobb1907.jpg

Cobb with George Burns in Cleveland in 1927
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/CobbwGeorgeBurnsofCleveland1927.jpg

Cobb in 1922
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb22.jpg

Cobb and Babe Ruth at a golf tournament in 1943
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/Post43-CobbRuth-19433tournamentgolf.jpg

Cobb in 1911
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb1911a.jpg

Cobb in 1911
http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/ichicdn/s0570/s057051.jpg

Ty Cobb in 1908
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobbbig08.jpg

Cobb in 1907
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty37963.jpg

Cobb showing us his nice smile
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/36093.jpg

Cobb in 1909
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty09.jpg

George H Ruth
02-21-2008, 05:12 PM
Babe Ruth, Ty Cobb, Tris Speaker in 1947 Old Timers game
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/26888.jpg

Ruth and Cobb 1924
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/photos/Ruth_and_Cobb1924.gif

Ty Cobb being serious
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty29InscribedtoTonyLazzeri.jpg

Ty Cobb looking stunning once again
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/ty32.jpg

Ty Cobb holding a bat: 1913
http://rmparchive.com/images/hosting/LC456-600W.jpg

Ty Cobb and the great Bobby Jones
http://i4.ebayimg.com/03/i/03/ee/9d/ed_1_b.JPG

Well thats it for now hopefully you enjoy these.

BSmile
02-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Well that's it for now hopefully you enjoy these.

For sure...some really good one's in there. I swear, Tris Speaker and Ty Cobb must have had each other on "speed-dial". They sure did show up at a lot of the same old-timer's events!

~B

OleMissCub
02-21-2008, 10:24 PM
Cobb in 1911
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/IdahoBert/Player%20thumbs/cobb1911a.jpg


That picture is just unbelievable.

hellborn
02-22-2008, 06:35 AM
That picture is just unbelievable.

Notice that his hands are together...Cobb claimed that he would slide his hands together when he really wanted to put a charge in the ball, instead of using the split grip. Judging from his foot action, it looks like he's going to "open up" a little and try to really put a hurting on an inside pitch that he likes the looks of, or is at least guessing the he's getting something inside and is going to power it.

I LOVE that photo of Cobb hitting in SF with his suit on!! It's hard to tell, but it looks to me like his hands were still apart when he started to take the top hand off the bat...looks like the ump is handling the catching for him, too.

The closeups also drive home how much Eminem looks like Ty did, as somebody else here mentioned.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 01:34 PM
I really enjoy the picture as well, I love it even more that it's black and white, I don't think it would have the same effect if it was color.

I'm glad that you guys enjoy the pictures, and Ill try to find some more beauties for you guys.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 02:26 PM
Sam Crawford and Ty Cobb, 1908-11
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/SamCrawford4.jpg

1928: Lou Gehrig, Tris Speaker, Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth
http://images.mastronet.com/images/Auction30/photographs/38761.jpg

That's it for now, but I'll be posting more later. I'm moving on to the Bbe Ruth thread for a bit.

BSmile
02-22-2008, 02:46 PM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.
Here's the explanation of the picture:

This simply remarkable panoramic photograph captures the greatest stars of the American League Dead Ball era, all of whom had convened at Cleveland's League Park on July 24, 1911 for a benefit game to raise money for the widow of Hall of Fame pitcher Addie Joss, whose life had been tragically cut short three months earlier in a virulent bout with meningitis. It must be noted that panoramic photographs were very expensive to produce at this time in history, and as such only those participating in the event were given a copy. Frank "Home Run" Baker's personal photo, offered here, is one of the very few to survive the many decades since. Baker is easy to spot, twelfth from right, dressed in the road grey uniform of his Philadelphia Athletics. Three men to his right is the great Walter Johnson in the midst of a season that saw him pitch six complete game shutouts. Other early gods of the diamond present include Shoeless Joe Jackson, Cy Young, Napoleon Lajoie, Eddie Collins, Smokey Joe Wood and the fiery Ty Cobb, who wears a borrowed Cleveland Naps jersey after forgetting to bring his Tigers togs to the ballpark. Behind the chicken wire that separates the stands from the playing field, scores of fans in dark suits and straw hats clamor to get a look at this outrageous assembly of talent, essentially the first All-Star Game in baseball history.

Cheers! ~B
(btw....I found some more great Cobb pic's...they'll be up today as well)

The AL All-Stars are fairly easy to identify. Starting with where the Cleveland Indians' players leave off, (don't count their mascot), they are, starting 16th from the right:
L-R: Clyde Milan, Walter Johnson, Gabby Street, Bobby Wallace, Frank Baker, Jimmy McAleer (Mgr.), Sam Crawford, Tris Speaker, Hal Chase, Russel Ford, Smokey Joe Wood, Paddy Livingston, Germany Schaffer, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, Cleveland Indian Jack Graney.
For the historical record, Cy Young is 10th from the left, Joe Jackson is 11th from the left, and Nap Lajoie is 18th from the left.

George H Ruth
02-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Here's an amazing picture that I found, its full of baseball legends.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c327/oche16/Premiums/tootsteam.jpg?t=1185082686

BSmile
02-22-2008, 03:10 PM
Here's an amazing picture that I found, its full of baseball legends.

It is a great picture...but it was already posted in this thread (post #21)

Cheers! ~B

OleMissCub
02-22-2008, 04:24 PM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.


Shoeless Joe is listed as 6'1, 200lbs.

Check him out in that photo, there's NO way he's that size. He looks like a shrimp.

BSmile
02-22-2008, 04:38 PM
Here we have a beautiful (and large) photo of the 1909 American League Champion Detroit Tigers. Everybody is looking pretty sharp here...

Cheers! ~B

1909 Detroit Tigers, 98-54, .645; 3.5 games ahead; WS (L 4-3)---BB-Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/DET/1909.shtml)

Top Row: L-R: Harry Tuthill (trainer), Tom Jones, Charlie 'Bossman' Schmidt, Bill Lelivelt, Del Gaynor, Sam Crawford, Matty McIntyre, Ed Killian, Oscar Stanage, Heinie Beckendorf, George Mullen.

Bottom Row: L-R: Davy Jones, Ed Willett, George Moriarty, Ed Summers, Hughie Jennings (Mgr.), Bill Donovan, Ralph Works, Ty Cobb.

Seated at bottom: L-R: Donnie Bush, Charlie O'Leary, Jim Delahanty, George 'Kid' Speers.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/190920Detroit20Tigers.jpg
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Bills%20Rare%20Photo%20Finds/Announcers/Meet%20The%20Announcers/Panoramic/Ty%20Cobb/Image4.jpg

OleMissCub
02-22-2008, 05:36 PM
Some great images on Getty I found. Just wish the stupid watermark was gone!!

Landis and Cobb, 1924.
http://cache2.gettyimages.com/xc/50413930.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=4996399091E8318691C87B6416B2257D207CAAE8C4C94190

Cobb in his Chalmers, 1910.

http://cache3.gettyimages.com/xc/3123558.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=6C7CA773A571C2DDDA85F734CF4FC002

BSmile
02-22-2008, 09:09 PM
Yup....here we go:

1) Inside of Ty's book, "Science Of Batting". 1944. With a nice Cobb signature

2) I found a larger version of that Ty pic at Shibe Field 1910 picture. Here it is

3) May 27, 1914 Newspaper Insert - New Haven, CT

4) A really nice handwritten letter to Tommy Heinrich's Dad - 12/14/1949

5) Finally...a gorgeous Stall & Dean Gloves Ad Display for Ty.

Just when I think I can't possibly find any more cool Ty Cobb images...well...then I do. Hopefully more to come!

Cheers! ~B

BSmile
02-23-2008, 09:50 AM
1) Ty Cobb - "Forgotten Play" - Ty shows how to bunt. Newpaper clip...

2) Tyrus Cobb Base Ball Stars Notebook - 1910's

Bill Burgess
02-23-2008, 12:03 PM
I'd love to know who the players in posts #78 and #82 were. Were they identified in the sources?

This is why we need to identify our sources, my brothers. All one need to do is look at the top of the screen, to the address bar, and copy/paste that with your photo. That way, we can all go there and see what other details are given. And maybe we will discover photos that we enjoy that others might not.

Actually, Fever rules ask us all to credit our sources. Thanks for understanding, guys. Please do not let this discourage anyone from continuing to share these incredible treasures with us.

Bill

BSmile
02-23-2008, 03:32 PM
For Bill.....
The 1909 Tigers picture...unedited, with the last names on the bottom.

Plus a bonus:
Ty Cobb - May 23, 1913 (that's all the info I have)

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-23-2008, 04:24 PM
Thank you so very much!! The difference in the 2 photos proves you have unparalleled graphic skills. The first one you posted, with your editing, was by far the greater one visually.

But please show the names from now on, OK?? Pretty please. The names of the websites, or links, help the many hundreds of invisible eyes that are following your every posting!!

Also, that one sweet shot of the first All-Star team. Do you have one of the NL team from that 1933 team?

Or a similar one for that Addie Joss Death Benefit game? The traditional photo? That one would be oh so sweet!!! Would be desperate to see that one posted like the 1933 All-Star Team!!---This is the one I'd love to see a large, pristine shot of. http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81

Or, the same would go for the 1917 Tim Murnane Death Benefit Game.---This one.---http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504708&postcount=100

George H Ruth
02-24-2008, 10:18 AM
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9247/tycobbwx8.jpg

Here's the other sig I was talking about, I'm hopeful you guys like them. I'll be making more shortly.

BSmile
02-24-2008, 03:42 PM
Well, it appears that Ty is feeding Joe Dimaggio a Georgia Peach...to which I say...WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?! Hahaha....sadly, I have no details about this picture....but it's a classic.

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess
02-24-2008, 04:14 PM
My brothers,

While you guys are still posting phenomenal photos that I've never seen before, I would like to request some help from you. I have some photos that are not up to good standards.

1. Addie Joss Death Benefit Game - http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=504070&postcount=81

2. Hall of Fame Dedication Ceremonies, July 12, 1939 - http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=532105&postcount=292

And lastly, I would dearly love to improve on what we now have on our great teams. The bottom of this page---
http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306&page=12

And this page
http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=40306&page=13

I've done my level best to find the best, clearest photos of these teams, but many are still dreadful. If anyone can find even a single shot of any of these teams that improves on what we have now, we all would be permanently indebted to you. Sincerely.

You guys seem to have a unique skill at ferreting out incredible images. Far better than I can find.

BSmile
02-24-2008, 05:02 PM
I would like to request some help from you. I have some photos that are not up to good standards

I do some digging Bill. BTW, I saw those 1907 Tigers pic's and I just HAD to make a GIF out of them.

Cheers! ~B

BSmile
02-25-2008, 03:48 PM
Here's a great pic:

Ty and "Brick" Owen - April 4, 1911

OleMissCub
02-25-2008, 04:54 PM
I do some digging Bill. BTW, I saw those 1907 Tigers pic's and I just HAD to make a GIF out of them.


http://www.baseball-fever.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36413&stc=1&d=1203897719

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/Roxbury.gif

George H Ruth
02-25-2008, 04:57 PM
Cobb Hunting
http://wso.williams.edu/~jkossuth/cobb/pics/hunting.jpg

George H Ruth
02-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Ty Cobb with the A's 1927
http://www.gallery240.com/Baseball/slides/291%20Ty%20Cobb%20Phil%20A's%201927%20Web.JPG

blackbetsy
02-29-2008, 07:41 AM
Yup...pretty spectacular picture here. I left it in its original panoramic size.
Here's the explanation of the picture:

This simply remarkable panoramic photograph captures the greatest stars of the American League Dead Ball era, all of whom had convened at Cleveland's League Park on July 24, 1911 for a benefit game to raise money for the widow of Hall of Fame pitcher Addie Joss, whose life had been tragically cut short three months earlier in a virulent bout with meningitis. It must be noted that panoramic photographs were very expensive to produce at this time in history, and as such only those participating in the event were given a copy. Frank "Home Run" Baker's personal photo, offered here, is one of the very few to survive the many decades since. Baker is easy to spot, twelfth from right, dressed in the road grey uniform of his Philadelphia Athletics. Three men to his right is the great Walter Johnson in the midst of a season that saw him pitch six complete game shutouts. Other early gods of the diamond present include Shoeless Joe Jackson, Cy Young, Napoleon Lajoie, Eddie Collins, Smokey Joe Wood and the fiery Ty Cobb, who wears a borrowed Cleveland Naps jersey after forgetting to bring his Tigers togs to the ballpark. Behind the chicken wire that separates the stands from the playing field, scores of fans in dark suits and straw hats clamor to get a look at this outrageous assembly of talent, essentially the first All-Star Game in baseball history.

Cheers! ~B
(btw....I found some more great Cobb pic's...they'll be up today as well)

The AL All-Stars are fairly easy to identify. Starting with where the Cleveland Indians' players leave off, (don't count their mascot), they are, starting 16th from the right:
L-R: Clyde Milan, Walter Johnson, Gabby Street, Bobby Wallace, Frank Baker, Jimmy McAleer (Mgr.), Sam Crawford, Tris Speaker, Hal Chase, Russel Ford, Smokey Joe Wood, Eddie Ainsmith, Germany Schaffer, Ty Cobb, Eddie Collins, another Cleveland Indian player.
For the historical record, Cy Young is 10th from the left, Joe Jackson is 11th from the left, and Nap Lajoie is 18th from the left.


Would like to make a correction to the identities of the players listed. In place of Eddie Ainsmith above....this is actually Paddy Livingston and the Cleveland player on the end of that line is actually Jack Graney, who appears twice in the photo. Graney is also the third guy on the left side of the photo. Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Mike Nola
Official Historian
The Shoeless Joe Jackson Virtual Hall of Fame Web Site
http://www.blackbetsy.com/
Home of the Joe Jackson model Louisville Slugger baseball bat offer.
The voice said "Build it and they will come".........and they have!!!!!

Bill Burgess
02-29-2008, 08:28 AM
Would like to make a correction to the identities of the players listed. In place of Eddie Ainsmith above....this is actually Paddy Livingston and the Cleveland player on the end of that line is actually Jack Graney, who appears twice in the photo. Graney is also the third guy on the left side of the photo. Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Mike Nola
Official Historian
The Shoeless Joe Jackson Virtual Hall of Fame Web Site
http://www.blackbetsy.com/
Home of the Joe Jackson model Louisville Slugger baseball bat offer.
The voice said "Build it and they will come".........and they have!!!!!
Thank you, Mike. I stand corrected. You are quite correct. Error on Burgess, again. Am I leading the league in errors yet? Must be. :)

Bill

BSmile
03-02-2008, 09:44 PM
Due to the process of taking a panoramic photo in those days. Graney had time from when the left side of the photo was taken until the right side of the photo was snapped....to run behind the camera and get at the end of the line on the right side of the photo. Graney was a big practical joker and this photo is a great example of that.

Hahaha! That is a fantastic bit of information. Thanks so much for your input. I've checked out the www.blackbetsy.com website several times...great stuff. Hopefully you'll have more to add to this site as well.

Cheers! ~B

George H Ruth
03-09-2008, 04:01 PM
Ty Cobb in the field with the Tigers 1920
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thehockeyattic/cobbtigers.JPG

Ty Cobb Hall of Fame plaque 1936(sorry for the size)
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/hof2001/hof1936.jpg

Sooperdon
03-09-2008, 06:43 PM
Here's a Ty Cobb hand fan that looks pretty old. It looks like it was cut by hand from heavy card stock, very rigid about 7.5" across. It might have been a give-a-way at the park or maybe a DIY kit. There's no date on it. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

I also have a handfan from 1985 with Cobb on one side and Pete Rose on the other commemorating the season Rose broke the all time hits record. I'll post it later as it's too big for my scanner and I don't have access to a digital cam right now.

BSmile
03-09-2008, 08:34 PM
Happened to find this gem of a picture today:
Cy Young, Duffy Lewis, Tris Speaker, Harry Hooper and Ty Cobb - Sept. 28, 1947 at Yankee Stadium. (Babe Ruth Day).

Cheers! ~B