hiddengem's Regular Season Thread

[racosun]

With hiddengem's ST thread a smashing success, he has kindly accepted an invitation to continue giving us updates and answering our questions. So, without further delay, here is hiddengem's regular season thread. Enjoy!

[hiddengem]

Hey guys...sorry I couldn't get back to your posts on the ST thread. As you can imagine I have had a busy and exciting 3 days here in So Cal. I was able to fulfill a life long dream of playing in Anaheim stadium the other night in front of man many friends and family.

Today I played for 6 or 7 innings. Again all of the guys were very positive today, and hopefully I can get back up here soon.

We have a workout at 11am on Tuesday and Wednesday with media day on Tuesday, and our season opens up on Thursday.

We have a new owner and are going to be introduced before the game.

Thanks for the support.

[hiddengem]

Good luck HG. Saw you last night on TV today. I think your style is a good fit with this club, and you will contribute to a successful season.


Yea, I think so...we'll see what happens.

[hiddengem]

HG, I gotta tell ya how great that bunt single you put down yesterday was. What a big time play! It was clear that nobody in the park expected that play, so much so that the announcer mentioned it a number of times. And that's a guy who's seen everything that baseball can offer.

Also, I was curious about getting your perspective about the play at the plate that you made after the bunt single. Do you think much about how you are going to score, or is going into home when they are making a play on you more instictive?


Anyway, congrats on a great ST, and good luck in SLC!

KH14


Well thank you...and as I was walking to the dish I was thinking just that....nobody in the park is thinking about a bunt right now, everybody is thinking about that 3 run blast that just left the yard. I peeked down to third, that guy was asleep and I knew I just had to get it on the ground and I had a chance. I ended up scoring and it turned out to be a big run.

As far as me scoring, I assume you are asking how I'm going to touch home plate? What kind of slide? Barrel the catcher?

For me its pretty insinctive, I watch what the catcher is doing and adjust. I've become pretty good over the yrs at getting around the catcher and catching an edge of the plate. I did that yesterday, but I was more surprised that the catcher was blocking the plate giving an opportunity for me to run him over in Spring Training. I had a clear shot to hit him, but I didn't want to risk hurting either of us right before the season.

[hiddengem]

The announcer told the TV audience a couple of tidbits about you today as well. Hopefully, someone got it on tape for you. :clapping

I haven't seen it..did anbody get it?

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, Congrats on a solid ST and good luck this season!

I remember you saying that the family (even the dog) was with you for ST. Now that you have been assigned where does the family go? Back home (wherever home is)? How often will you see them now?

Thanks

Well, after the recent series we packed up the truck and the uhaul and off we went back home. Got about 2 hrs outside of the park and realized I forgot all my baseball stuff...Turn around go back an hr and meet her dad... we ended up getting home at 3:00. We have a 3 bedroom house here that we are renting with another couple..beautiful place right at the base of the mountains.

[Sweet Lou]

HG, you didn't bother to mention your accomplishments. For shame! :D Don't be afraid to "brag" we want to hear the good and the bad. :)

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

I have checked the score on the team's website. Great game HG. :clapping

We're proud at you.

Go on like this and the parent club can not ignore you.

[hiddengem]

Hey..I said it was a good win, I'm not big on tooting my own horn, sorry guys. Its a long season, and I'm sure there will be many more good games and many more bad games...hopefully more good than bad.
Take care

[Captain Cold Nose]

Hey..I said it was a good win, I'm not big on tooting my own horn, sorry guys. Its a long season, and I'm sure there will be many more good games and many more bad games...hopefully more good than bad.
Take care

Your humility and groundedness are just two more reasons why there are so many of us rooting for you here.

[KHenry14]

I'm not big on tooting my own horn, sorry guys.

The good news is that we will be doing the tooting of the horn for you HG!! Like when you stole home in pre-season, the people on this board know how rare that is, so we will easily recognize good playing when we see it.

So play your game, have fun, and know that you've got a bunch of people pulling for ya!

KH14

[west coast orange and black]

thanx again for welcoming us into your space, h-g.
please continue to see the ball and hit the ball and pick it so that the parent club'll call you sooner rather than later.

[ndistops]

Way to go HG! That's one way to catch some attention! :clapping

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, I notice that your team has you batting clean-up. In the minors have you batted there a lot? And do you like hitting there, or would you prefer a different place?

KH14


Just another case of "Don't believe everything you read"...I'm hitting in the 2 hole, and I like it alot.

[hiddengem]

Our opening day here was rainy and cold, low forties with a howling wind, but by the fourth game it was sunny and 82 degrees. I'll try to use my connections and get some of the more baseball friendly weather to push up this way. Seriously, though, I've bookmarked the team web page, check it often, and as questionable as it may sound, when I read the sports section I turn instinctively to the transactions and injuries list. Force of habit from my younger days, when the DL and trade deals determined who was going where and when. Protracted slumps, trade bait, blistered pitching fingers and all kinds of things can have a peculiar way of opening the door for opportunities to make the show. I'm the last person to wish injury or illness on another, but in the course of a long season some rotten things are bound to happen. With the first suspensions coming down, it is just one more thing that juggles rosters and increases player movements. Isn't there a May 1 roster rule, MLB teams can't bring somebody on board from another team if they weren't already on the 40 man roster? Or is that a thing of the past?

I'm not to sure about the rules...I really try and focus on the things I can control. I feel that if I'm spending time wondering who is hurt and who is doing good or bad, than it is taking away from the time I could be getting better. I've seen so many times guys that are hitting .350 don't get moved at all, and guys that are hitting .220 get the call. It all depends on what the club needs...Take care

[hiddengem]

HG, since we are talking about the batting order, I am curious about something. Down in San Diego Bruce Bochy switched Klesko to the 4 spot and Nevin to the 5 and it created quite a stir. But I'm wondering if that is a media thing or do the players really get protective of where they hit in the lineup?

KH14

Often times guys get heated when they are switched around in the lineup. But if they understand its for the good of the team they won't say much. Sounds like the guys aren't too happy.

[pads4ever]

Often times guys get heated when they are switched around in the lineup. But if they understand its for the good of the team they won't say much. Sounds like the guys aren't too happy.
LOL, yeah they aren't happy alright. They aren't happy with Petco.

It would seem that a few of these guys got this park in their head and it is stifiling them. Me, I'm trying to give them a chance. It's only the start of the second week. After they get settled in some hopefully they will get over the mental block for the park. IMO, Bochy's gotta do something different to find what works best.

[west coast orange and black]

LOL, yeah they aren't happy alright. They aren't happy with Petco.
but weren't these the same two who whined all last seasonlong?
maybe you gotta get it through their heads that a pitcher's park favors the team that plays there most often, pads.

speaking of parks, i am curious, h-g: what is your home infield like for you? will the crew comply with an infielder's wishes as far as how he likes an area? say, harder/faster or softer/slower?

[hiddengem]

but weren't these the same two who whined all last seasonlong?
maybe you gotta get it through their heads that a pitcher's park favors the team that plays there most often, pads.

speaking of parks, i am curious, h-g: what is your home infield like for you? will the crew comply with an infielder's wishes as far as how he likes an area? say, harder/faster or softer/slower?


They hired a new crew this year, and the main guy is great. He told us to tell him anything we want and he'll do it. So far the infield is much better in only 4 days. Those guys are usually really good about trying to make the field they way you want it. Some crews just don't care, most are great.

[hiddengem]

HG, there is a thread about best fans, and it got me to wondering, amoung the places you've played, who has the best fans? Worst?

Just curious...

KH14

I haven't played in very many big league ball parks...but from the guys I've talked to Boston has the worst fans, right up there with the Yankees. I've heard great things about St. Louis, and Anaheim was great. I didn't like the Dodgers crowd.

[hiddengem]

I know they often give those things at random, but I just need to ask: In All-star baseball 2005, you only have a D+ health rating. Have you been bothered by injuries during you career in the pros?

No not at all, I can't even think of a season where I played under 110 games, out of 144. I've had a few muscle pulls here and there, but nothing major. (knock on wood)

Didn't know I was in that game..need to check it out.

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, just curious about something. How difficult is it to have relationships with the media, especially after they have criticised you? I can't imagine it's easy to pretend that the guy didn't just hammer you on the air or in the paper. Or do you look at it as they are just doing their job? It just seems that it would be hard to not take it personally. Or is ignoring it something that you just get used to over the years?

KH14

I try and look at like they have a job to do, and our society feasts on negativity so they look for anything negative to write and they do, most of the time.
But if they hammer me in the paper, they better not ever come up to me and try and be buddy buddy. And if they ever write something out of context or write something they heard me say to somebody else, that will be the end of me talking to them.

[hiddengem]

and who is on the 40 man, and who has options, and who can clear waivers, who has revocable and irrevocable waivers, who is more versatile defensively...and so on and so forth.

It really must be aggravating for a club to keep track of this stuff


This is all true, and why I'm a player and not a front office staff member.

[hiddengem]

Sorry its taken me so long to respond to you guys. Had terrible hotel situation so I hardly got online, then in another city they wanted $12/day for highspeed and a $1 ever local call, so I thought I'd just wait unitl we got home. Ok let me get to your questions.

[hiddengem]

What a stellar attitude, HG. I'm going to have to remind myself of that the next time some scribbler bashes our office's good works with innuendo, exaggerations and outright lies, which has been a daily staple in the local rag for about the last six weeks. Our mayor has decided to eliminate dozens of elected officials here, needs the help of our legislature to accomplish this, and it may wind up costing our taxpayers even more in the near future. I'd rather be playing ball, if I had my druthers. :D

I've been following your team through their web page, and you must be enjoying the warmer climate. The team has had some ups and downs, but your numbers seem to be right up with where you were before, if not a little better since you're playing more. Is there any difficulty adjusting to those 30+mph windy chilly days, or is it just something you prepare for and deal with?

Finally, I just want to thank you again for taking the time with us here; while society in general focuses on the negatives, most of us here at the Fever are delighted to keep this thread upbeat and positive. It gives us a chance to look forward to your continued successes, and enjoy the season of '05 with your notes on playing the game we all respect and love.


I'm not a very big fan of cold weather or wind, so I've been bundling up pretty good at night and using hand warmers. Tonight it rained and was in the 40's and we're supposed to have more rain for the next 3 days..should be interesting.

[hiddengem]

does management ever go to players, h-g, and say: "look, we know what was printed, and we know that so-and-so's a jackass, but just forget it. talk to those guys and forget about what was written."

Sometimes, but I think more often than not, players take it upon themselves to either talk or not talk to the media. Obviously you want to take care of the media, because they have a job as well, but there is a line.

[hiddengem]

HG, I noticed that you are in for a long period of games, with only one day off for the next couple of weeks. How hard is it both mentally and physically when you are going through that kind of a grind?

KH14

Its much more difficult mentally. We can punish our bodies to no end, but its the mind that needs a rest every now and then. The concentration and focus that is needed every single day to play this game can wear on you, and a good Manager will recognize this and give guys days off when they need it.

[hiddengem]

I saw that someone was called up to fill in for an injured player. Do you think he'll see some playing time?

By the way, I have to admit that was one heck of a shot he hit (grand slam) recently. I think that ball is still coming back to earth.... ;)

Yea, I think he'll play a lot, he was their guy going into ST.

[hiddengem]

Hi HG,

I have checked your stats the last couple of days but it seems to me that you haven't been at bat the last couple of days. (correct me if I'm wrong)

What's going on? Do you have another injury perhaps?

Yea, I had a freak incident recently. I hit a double down the right field line and rounded 2nd hard when I decided to put on the breaks and my left ankle caught a spike and rolled pretty bad. Swelled up pretty good and was really sore. I should be back in action tommorow or the next day.

A big show regular is here for a rehab Assig, so that will cut into some guys playing time, but i just need to get over the mental aspect of my ankle, I need to feel like I have good support so I don't favor it and hurt something else.

[AnaheimAngelsFan]

I'm guessing that the ankle is just fine, since you've just been called up! There's a separate thread going right now regarding your call-up, and I just wanted to repeat how proud I am of you, as I'm sure we all are. Great job in SLC! Congrats!! :gt

Ditto that!

Great news, man! Will definitely come check you out. Congrats! Your hard work and enthusiasm has paid off! Best of luck!

[hiddengem]

Thanks guys...its very exciting to be here, and to get to see Yankee Stadium was quite an experience. I think I heard "El Halo" ragging me ;) .

Not too sure how long I'll be here, we've got a few guys scheduled to come off the DL within a week or so, but I'm going to enjoy my time howeve long it is.
Take care

[hiddengem]

If ElHalo does, we'll give him some cement shoes ;)
They can't keep you out of the lineup long.
:clapping :dance :gt

Don't look for too much of a lineup shuffle.

[hiddengem]

HG, I really appreciate your humility, and the respect you give other players. I wish there were more people like you. :)

Sweet Lou

Thank you, I believe thats the way it should be.

[hiddengem]

HG, what is there any significance of the number you were issued?

It was the number I was issued in ST, no significance.

[hiddengem]

We do have some depth on our team, but we have alot of guaranteed players that start everyday, so there isn't much playing time for the bench guys...basically a paid vacation..I think I can handle that :)

Safeco is probably the nicest facility in the league, I mean they have their own kitchen in the visitors clubhouse with a cheif that cooks made to order food all day long. You just go in there order off a menu and they call you when its ready. Nice weight room, huge locker room with first class amenties all the way around...Very nice.

[hiddengem]

I wonder if you'd care to comment on the merits of Field Turf? Obviously anything would be better than the old Astroturf, but is this stuff that much better? I ask because I hate hearing about athletes who get injured because of poor field conditions, because that situation is preventable.

KH14
I actually liked the turf in the Metrodome and I'm not exactly sure if a regualar surface would have prevented his injury.

[hiddengem]

HG, is there any chance the manager will let you play?
So far I did not see your name appear in the box scores.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.

I highly doubt it. He's not here to accomodate me, he's here to win ballgames and we have 8 starting players on guaranteed contracts that are going to play every day.

If I get into a game it will be in the 9th inning pinch running, or in the 8th or 9th inning of a blowout game.

[RuthMayBond]

HG, is there any chance the manager will let you play?
So far I did not see your name appear in the box scores.

I'll keep my fingers crossed.I can kind of understand in tight games, but FIVE to NOTHING? C'mon, put da GEM in :clapping

[hiddengem]

The manager uses his bench. HG will get a chance. He showed what he can do in ST, and there is a reason he is up with the club and it is because the club feels he can help the team win some ballgames and provide excellent depth, which the club have been known for recently.


Right now, there isn't much reason for him to use his bench. Most of the guys are guaranteed players that have a proven track record. I'm deffinetly not complaining, but look for me to be hiding in my locker when someone comes off the DL :laugh

[hiddengem]

Wow, a real major league player posts on this board...

I gotta come here more often.


Well anyway, is Vlad Guerrero that good in real life, or is it all a illusion perpetrated by ESPN?

Vlad is outstanding. Very down to earth, and humble.

[hiddengem]

how much of your running game is affected by your sore ankle, h-g?

how does the ankle affect you up at the plate, if at all?

if you enter as a runner rather than at the plate, will it be 'cause you'd be expected to steal a bag or get into scoring position, rather than go from first to third... or score on a gapper?

keep on it, man.

Probably to score on a double from first, I don't know.

[hiddengem]

is there a part of you that would rather be playing every day with the aaa team rather than having to wait up there in the bigs?


Lets see....Minor leagues
$9,500/mth
Minor league insurance
No, major league service time/pension.

Major Leagues
$52k/mth
Major league insurance
Licensing money
Big league stadium's/ travel
Service time, whether you are playing or not.

You tell me.

[Bleacherbee]

I've got a list of people that you can rattle in CF. You work a guy for two innings, if he doesn't respond, then you stop. Most good ones don't respond.

Topping that list of those who do respond is Vernon Wells, he will carry a conversation with you when the ball is in play. Last year, we were razzing him, he was turning around and screaming obscenities at us, the ball was pitched and hit foul. We screamed for him to watch out - he turned around really quickly and saw a seagull flying towards the outfield over second base. He made a quick break and then stopped when he realized it was a bird.

He really heard it on that one.

Home field advantage.

[Bleacherbee]

Let me quantify something, the actual PA announcer called him "Choney" (Phonetically) Faggins. This of course was repeated by the entire bleachers for the duration of the game.

It is about the crassest possible thing I would say, considering there's children around, but that's exactly how he was announced, so... fair game.

I can make no apologies for our bleachers as a whole though, the stream of foul language is pretty dispicable at times - all of it, of course, from the college kids who show up for 6 innings and 12 beers and never go to another Tigers game for the rest of the season. Those of us with season tickets, families, etc - we have a more refined sense of heckling.

Jay Payton was fun last night... the regulars let the kids focus on Johnny Damon, we took on the "We want Trot" angle :)

[hiddengem]

= um, ok, what about this:
would you rather be up right now (and not getting the manager's call :ughh ) or still playing every day in aaa and get called up because the club needs you (and plays you) right away?

I think all ballplayers want to play, but if you are asking me if I'd rather go down to AAA and wait for them to call me up when I'm going to play, the answer is no.

[hiddengem]

I can make no apologies for our bleachers as a whole though, the stream of foul language is pretty dispicable at times - all of it, of course, from the college kids who show up for 6 innings and 12 beers and never go to another Tigers game for the rest of the season. Those of us with season tickets, families, etc - we have a more refined sense of heckling.

Every last fan that decides to rag or yell foul language at a player does it for one reason.

They would give anything to be in that players shoes and the closest they can get in their mind is to yell at them and hope they give a response and acknowledge them.

[west coast orange and black]

I think all ballplayers want to play, but if you are asking me if I'd rather go down to AAA and wait for them to call me up when I'm going to play, the answer is no.keep takin' yer hacks in bp so that yer ready for duty, h-g.

what do you do to get warmed up?
bp in cage? run?

is there any place at the ballyard to get loose by throwing? before hittin' the field as a replacement, i mean.

[hiddengem]

keep takin' yer hacks in bp so that yer ready for duty, h-g.

what do you do to get warmed up?
bp in cage? run?

is there any place at the ballyard to get loose by throwing? before hittin' the field as a replacement, i mean.

There is usually a cage by your locker room that you can go and take some swings in. You can do your stretching and running in there as well.

[hiddengem]

HG, you had mentioned getting paid for licensing... How does that work? Do you get a percentage of merchandise sales or something like that? Thanks.

Yea, I'm not to sure on the percentage. I know in the 1980's early 90's a full share of licensing money was like 60k. These days the union withholds alot, but a full share is around 15-20k.

[hiddengem]

Congrats on your call-up, and let's hope you see some action at home. Anyway, what's your routine before games? Any superstitions or anything of the like? What do you do to get into the competitive spirit before games?
My routine changes on days I'm playing from days I'm not.
On days I'm playing, I like to get to the yard early, jump in the hot tub to get loose and then get in the cage and get some extra hacks. Make sure I'm good and loose during BP and then get ready for the game.

Days I'm not playing, I'll still arrive early but I'll get a lift in before BP, go out early and run some sprints and take extra BP. Then I go out and enjoy the game and be ready in the 8th or 9th.

[Bleacherbee]

Have you ever been in a stadium were the announcer butchered the player's name? Or read off the wrong first name, HG?

Yeah, the annoucer at Comerica park is terrible for the other team, to the point that I honestly believe he butchers them on purpose. He only does it for rookies though.

Another favorite was last year, Lew Ford became Lew Fraud for the entire season :)

[hiddengem]

Have you ever been in a stadium were the announcer butchered the player's name, HG? Or read off the wrong first name?


Sure, it happens all the time. Josh Paul was named John Paul by the Yankee anouncer.

[hiddengem]

I'm sure that's exactly what the players think. Why do people only do it to the opposing players though?

Ok, you tell me why you do it? Because you enjoy the attention.

[Bleacherbee]

Ok, you tell me why you do it? Because you enjoy the attention.

Woah, I didn't mean to get into an argument here. I do it because its our job in the bleachers to creatively heckle the opposing outfielders, because we're fans and we pay to be there to support our team. I'll leave it at that. I dont condone any profanity or personal attacks.

Anyway, I don't need to explain myself. I still wish you the best of luck and am following your team on Extra Innings for the first time to see if you get in. When you play against my guys, if you get in, don't try to run on Pudge :)

[RuthMayBond]

Woah, I didn't mean to get into an argument here. I do it because its our job in the bleachers to creatively heckle the opposing outfielders, because we're fans and we pay to be there to support our team. I'll leave it at that. I dont condone any profanity or personal attacks.

Anyway, I don't need to explain myself. I still wish you the best of luck and am following your team on Extra Innings for the first time to see if you get in. You're playing my guys this weekend, if you get in, don't try to run on Pudge :)Dave's trying to say that "Faggins" is beyond "creative".

[Bleacherbee]

Dave's trying to say that "Faggins" is beyond "creative".

He was announced as such. I honestly didn't know that it wasnt pronounced that way until watching an Angels game later in the year (this was last season). Do you understand my point? Thats why I said to apologize, because we were chanting his name as if it were funny, but we all believed that was his real name... not Shaun (sic) Figgins.

[Bleacherbee]

I don't get heckling. Why not talk strategy, check the out of town scores or ogle the blonde in the next section?

Because we do talk strategy and as for the others I can't stand people who dont pay attention to the game.

[hiddengem]

Woah, I didn't mean to get into an argument here. I do it because its our job in the bleachers to creatively heckle the opposing outfielders, because we're fans and we pay to be there to support our team. I'll leave it at that. I dont condone any profanity or personal attacks.

Anyway, I don't need to explain myself. I still wish you the best of luck and am following your team on Extra Innings for the first time to see if you get in. You're playing my guys this weekend, if you get in, don't try to run on Pudge :)
You are absolutely right, you help to pay our salaries so you can yell whatever you want. I guess I just don't understand why you don't go to the game and enjoy the game, why the need to yell at players? We don't show up at your job and yell at you.

[hiddengem]

I prefer brunettes and redheads. :laugh


I am starting to notice a major difference between "Major League" women and "Minor League" women. :D

[hiddengem]

Then the original intention of the post is taken care of with no additional action :)



We do enjoy the game, sarcastic chanting is simply a more refined sense of booing. We don't do it as anything personal, its simply of a sincere desire to see the opposing team fail against our team. I guess I'm confused as to how this upsets Major League Players. Once again, as I said, the whole thing about making personal jokes about families, ethnicities, and using vulgar language - well, that has no place. But yelling out "Trot would've caught that" when Jay Payton boffs a fly out? That's harmless homefield advantage.



Heh, any time I bounce, float, or dump a landing I get comments like you wouldn't believe. I've learned to stay in the cockpit after terrible flights with my headset on. Then again, the passengers pay my salary, they can say what they want :grouchy

Good luck today against Bondo (just you personally, not the team :) )

Hey, I'm just giving you a hard time. Most folks are just out there trying to have fun. But like you said, there are a few "tough guys" out there they deffinetly cross the line, and we have invited them in our dugout on many occasions and never got any takers. :laugh

Bondo pitched a hell of a game tonight. It was a good game all the way around.

Do you fly commercial? Big Birds? Small Birds?

[hiddengem]

Ah, the things that make life worth living...
HG, since we've been on the topic of heckling, I was wondering if you hear much of anything out there? As a middle IF, I was guessing you wouldn't really be able to make out much, even if you wanted to. The on deck circle looks to be another story. I have seen players talking to fans there rather frequently.


I honestly don't hear much at all. But if you get a a minor league city with few people in the crowd and some loud mouth, you'll hear him. On deck, it happens on occasion.

[racosun]

Oh yeah, I can't forget to say congrats on making your 2005 debut. I know it was a dream of yours, and I'm very happy to have watched you fulfill it. Congrats again! :clapping

[RuthMayBond]

HG, props on gettting some action. You got your feet wet, now you're ready! :clapping

[CZzyzx41]

I think HG needs a couple starts.

[Gamingboy]

Congrats on your AL debut, HG!

[hiddengem]

HG, you should have drilled that 3-0 pitch into the rock formation in centerfield!! Did you have the green light? Anyways, it was good to see you get a little action today. I was rooting for you as soon as you got in there. I'm glad my team took the game and series today, and hopefully they'll do it again this weekend. I'll be in the stands on the third-base side on Friday (son's 5th B-day), and hopefully I won't get pummelled when I cheer you on. Good luck until then.

Yea, I should have. Oh well, it was good to get in there. Hopefully I'll stay around a bit longer.

If I'm with the team, come and say hello.

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, first off, congrats on your first action with the Big Club! I had the pleasure of listening to some of the games on the radio and a thought occurred to me. I know you commented previously on player relationships with the print media, but I am wondering if your feelings are the same with regards to the people who do the play by play on radio and TV? If they are doing their job, they at times will have to criticize a bad play, like missing a cutoff man. Do players take that personally or does that type of criticism just come with the territory.

What do you think of Jose Mota? I think he's an outstanding young announcer and seemingly a good guy. Besides being the only guy in the majors to announce games in both english and spanish, his being a former player (and the son of a good hitter) really gives some solid insights. So I am wondering if you had an opinion on him?

KH14

Great question...First off the TV guys have a job to do as well, and their job is to call the game as they see it. If its a good play or a bad play. Lets face it, Big league ball players are just as human as anybody else and we are going to screw up from time to time.

But I personally feel that a broadcaster should be able describe a botched play in a professional manner without crossing the line and throwing the player under the bus.

I have a great relationship with the TV guys.

Mota is a great guy, I've actually had the opportunity to talk to him quite a bit. He never misses an opportunity to say hello and ask how I'm doing. Quality individual.

[hiddengem]

Hey, congratulations in your AB there, it is just the start of things for you.

If you stay around long enough, I am going to go to a game when you are in town (Seattle)! It'd be great to see you in action!

We were just in Seattle..where were you?

[hiddengem]

HG what was your impression of the Tigers :)

Scrappy bunch...threw some good arms at us.

[hiddengem]

Hiddengem's beauty of a play starting the double kill is profiled today on the club's homepage game video. Way to get up the ladder, HG, you made a tough chance look routine. There is also an excellent side note by your manager regarding his starters and deep dependable bench. The article by Mark Thomas is titled "At-bats scarce for bench." and sheds some good light on the position the skipper and our favorite big leaguer are facing this season. His quote :"It's like Catch-22," the manager said, "You need at-bats to get productive, but you don't get at-bats because you're not producing." That's some catch, that Catch-22, but we know that bench and multi-talented utility players mean alot more as the season wears on. Here in the first quarter of the season the everyday guys need some continuity, but as injuries take their toll, and when the heat and humidity start draining the energy more rapidly, more guys are going to need a day off, or be replaced in the later innings. HG has given us lots of insight into his accepting the role as given, and I'm guessing that role will grow and develop as the season progresses.

I'm not sure whats going to happen in the next week or so. I might be heading down. If they send me down, then they'll be sending down their only emergency middle infielder. We'll see.

[hiddengem]

June is a long time from now... guys in my position worry about today and today only.

[Bleacherbee]

June is a long time from now... guys in my position worry about today and today only.
Have you been told something possibly negative? Your mood seems to have changed a bit.

Anyway, you should be there this upcoming weekend, I'm sure. You'll love it. :)

[Captain Cold Nose]

Thanks, FSN Detroit, for not broadcasting the games over the weekend.

[Bleacherbee]

Thanks, FSN Detroit, for not broadcasting the games over the weekend.

Thanks MLB.TV, for thinking that I live in New York and not blacking out the Tigers games this weekend because your security system is so poorly thought out :)

[AnaheimAngelsFan]

I was one of the 15,000 or so left on a sunny Mother's Day to see our friend hiddengem play.

I got goosebumps when hg went up for that linedrive and turned the double play. (Big cheer from waaaaay up in the 502 section of the View Level!) And my heart was in my throat when hg took his at-bat. Hey, as I tell my little leaguer, you got a piece of it.

Nice to see you in a big league uniform, man. Best of luck for a long career, hg. Proud of you.

Bob

(Took my kid to the game Saturday too, to pay my respects, but the Gestapo ushers wouldn't let us anywhere near you before the game. Seems the only place regular folks --- non-season ticket holders-- can get near the players is out in the left field corner near the bullpen. Maybe another time, hg.)

[hiddengem]

Have you been told something possibly negative? Your mood seems to have changed a bit.

:)

No not at all. I'm just a realist and understand how this game goes.

[hiddengem]

I was one of the 15,000 or so left on a sunny Mother's Day to see our friend hiddengem play.

I got goosebumps when hg went up for that linedrive and turned the double play. (Big cheer from waaaaay up in the 502 section of the View Level!) And my heart was in my throat when hg took his at-bat. Hey, as I tell my little leaguer, you got a piece of it.

Nice to see you in a big league uniform, man. Best of luck for a long career, hg. Proud of you.

Bob

(Took my kid to the game Saturday too, to pay my respects, but the Gestapo ushers wouldn't let us anywhere near you before the game. Seems the only place regular folks --- non-season ticket holders-- can get near the players is out in the left field corner near the bullpen. Maybe another time, hg.)

Let me know the next game you go to... hopefully this homestand, and I'll go down to the corner during BP.

Thanks for the kind words. For some reason all the fans seem to know my name and who I am today. ;)

[west coast orange and black]

...For some reason all the fans seem to know my name and who I am today. ;)well, maybe it's because you are totally respected for playing the game the way that most of us believe it's supposed to be played. keep on it, man.

[hiddengem]

well, maybe it's because you are totally respected for playing the game the way that most of us believe it's supposed to be played. keep on it, man.

I actually did hear that from a fan after the game...It's nice to have that part of your game recognized.

[RuthMayBond]

Being a West Coaster, who were some of your baseball idols growing up?

[hiddengem]

Being a West Coaster, who were some of your baseball idols growing up?

DiSarcina was a favorite of mine.

[AnaheimAngelsFan]

Let me know the next game you go to... hopefully this homestand, and I'll go down to the corner during BP.

Thanks for the kind words. For some reason all the fans seem to know my name and who I am today. ;)

Well, they should man, they should.

Hopefully, the next time we go you'll still be up with the team. I'll give you some notice. But hey, doesn't matter if we make contact or not. What matters is A) you're playing in the big leagues, and B) I get to watch you play. Just know that there are a lot of us pulling for you, hg.

[Zito75]

For some reason all the fans seem to know my name and who I am today. ;)

That's pretty cool... Which leads to a question I wanted to ask before.

How do the guys treat you when you get called up? Is there a little bit of hazing going on, or is it pretty cordial? I've heard all sorts of stories... but you know how sports reporters are... Thanks and stay healthy.... ;)

[hiddengem]

Well, they should man, they should.

Hopefully, the next time we go you'll still be up with the team. I'll give you some notice. But hey, doesn't matter if we make contact or not. What matters is A) you're playing in the big leagues, and B) I get to watch you play. Just know that there are a lot of us pulling for you, hg.

I appreciate the support. ;)

[hiddengem]

That's pretty cool... Which leads to a question I wanted to ask before.

How do the guys treat you when you get called up? Is there a little bit of hazing going on, or is it pretty cordial? I've heard all sorts of stories... but you know how sports reporters are... Thanks and stay healthy.... ;)

No, this team is a very laid back bunch. Paul is a nut case but thats about it. The guys have treated me great and have taken me in as part of the team.

[RuthMayBond]

When the game's close to being decided in the ninth, it's ok to put in a CERTAIN sub ;) :grouchy

[tigersfan]

Hope to soon see you play.

[hiddengem]

I won't be seeing you guys. :(

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I wasn't sure if it was going to me - I thought I might stay just for the fact that I'm a middle infielder.

Lots of positives came out of my stay here, so I can't be upset.
Take care

[rockin500]

that sucks.

[RuthMayBond]

I won't be seeing you guys.

Oh well, it was fun while it lasted. I wasn't sure if it was going to me - I thought I might stay just for the fact that I'm a middle infielder.

Lots of positives came out of my stay here, so I can't be upset.
Take care. Man that stinks, but keep plugging away!!!!!! You WILL be back :clapping :clapping :clapping

[west coast orange and black]

now i gotta go find out what the hell i did with that aaa club's hat. :grouchy

[sandlot]

This was only an appetizer, HG. No doubt about it, you'll be back again for the main course. I never looked at the Big Club's site in the past, but like everybody else here at BF, I'll be keeping a close eye on it in future waiting for you to reappear. Meanwhile, don't forget to :atthepc to us! ;)

[racosun]

Dang. I just sent you a PM asking when the best time to come down and see you would be, but I guess you can just ignore that one. I'm positive you'll be back. I'll travel to Chi-town to see you if you get back there at some point this season. Good luck again, HG. Keep up the hard work.

[Bleacherbee]

I actually had started on a banner to hang out in the outfield, something about "WE WANT HG" or thereabouts :)

I'm dissapointed now.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Man I hate this. :grouchy

Though it must be very disappointing for you, you keep thinking positive. :clapping

What are you doing during a game when you don't get any playing time?

Do you analize the opponent's pitchers or what?

Good luck and keep working hard so they can not avoid you.

Hope to see you in the summer.

[west coast orange and black]

I actually had started on a banner to hang out in the outfield, something about "WE WANT HG" or thereabouts :)dude, put it up there anyway and let 'em know how you feel.

[mojorisin71]

I predict that HG will be back up before the end of the year and before rosters expand. Anyone else with me?

[bigtime39]

I predict that HG will be back up before the end of the year and before rosters expand. Anyone else with me?

I'm down with that! :clapping

[Sweet Lou]

Darn, I was really looking forward to meeting you when you come to The Cell in Chicago. :( Maybe you'll be back by then? Not that I wish any harm on anyone else, but we all really really really want you to play! :)

Take care of yourself, HG, and we'll see you back up there soon, I'm sure.

Lou

[RuthMayBond]

I predict that HG will be back up before the end of the year and before rosters expand. Anyone else with me?Money in da bank :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping

[hiddengem]

dude, put it up there anyway and let 'em know how you feel.
Yea..do that..how funny would that be. I'm sure I'd get some calls from the guys.

[hiddengem]

Darn, I was really looking forward to meeting you when you come to The Cell in Chicago. :( Maybe you'll be back by then? Not that I wish any harm on anyone else, but we all really really really want you to play! :)

Take care of yourself, Hg, and we'll see you back up there soon, I'm sure.

Lou

I hope so...I'll tell you one thing...tonight was my first time playing in a while and I felt like I hadn't played in 2 yrs. The pitches looked like they were coming in a 150mph.

Needless to say it was kind of an ugly night, but it can only get better from here. Time to stay positive and and hopefully get back soon. Ya'll take care.

[west coast orange and black]

...Anyone else with me?i'll put two large down on it, man.

[trosmok]

Lots of positives came out of my stay here, so I can't be upset.

Dang, . Hard to believe you're back to the minors, but it's good to know you still have that positive outlook. I'm not a betting man, but dollars to donuts you'll be back with the big club before you know it. Way early in this thread you mentioned how the management makes some odd moves, so you concentrate on the things you can control, and for that I applaud you again. :clapping

:gt

[DownUnderDodger]

HG I have been very slack in not catching up with your thread and apologise for overlooking its importance, both to you and to us as baseball fans. I wish you all the best in your efforts to be back in the roster and hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Reading one of your very early posts:


Today I got to play quite a bit. It was quite exciting to play on such a big stage. Again all of the guys were very positive today, and hopefully I can get back up here soon.

If you find the time would you please be kind enough to tell what it was like playing at a major league park! What is it like as a ballpark to play in - facilities for players, laying arena etc, and does it compare to others you have played in?

[hiddengem]

HG I have been very slack in not catching up with your thread and apologise for overlooking its importance, both to you and to us as baseball fans. I wish you all the best in your efforts to be back in the roster and hope it happens sooner rather than later.

Reading one of your very early posts:

If you find the time would you please be kind enough to tell what it was like playing at the Ravine and how the fans were towards you/your team! What is it like as a ballpark to play in - facilities for players, laying arena etc, and does it compare to others you have played in?


It was an average ballpark...the clubhouse was very average, small and old. The fans, well they were average too. They didn't seem to baseball savy to me..but I was only there for 2 games so maybe they were having a couple of bad days. The best part about the ball park was its playing surface, I've heard one of the top 5 in all of baseball.

[Gamingboy]

Okay, kinda a irrelevent question but...

If you were a elite Major League player (on part with guys like A-rod or Miguel Tejada), would you play in the "World Baseball Classic" or would you just report to spring training?

[hiddengem]

Okay, kinda a irrelevent question but...

If you were a elite Major League player (on part with guys like A-rod or Miguel Tejada), would you play in the "World Baseball Classic" or would you just report to spring training?

I'd see how my club felt about it, and if they were ok with it I'd go and play, but it would be taking a risk as far as inury goes.

[DownUnderDodger]

Thank you HG!! :)

[hiddengem]

Thank you HG!! :)

No problem.

[RuthMayBond]

Well Dave, I'm planning on seeing your parent club. . .
. . . but it won't be the same without ya :grouchy

[KHenry14]

Hey HG, I am curious about something. When guys are in your situation, been up to the big club, then down, and potentially could go back up at any time...do you pay attention to what's happening with the big club? Or are you totally focused on what you are doing where you are at?

KH14

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, I am curious about something. When guys are in your situation, been up to the big club, then down, and potentially could go back up at any time...do you pay attention to what's happening with the big club? Or are you totally focused on what you are doing where you are at?

KH14

I pay attention regardless of whether I'm in a position to go up or not. Thats not to say I'm obsessed with what happens there, my main focus is to do the best I can for the team I'm playing for.

I've been pretty rusty at the plate since I hadn't seen live pitching for 2 weeks, but I'm getting my timing back and have felt much better the past 2 days.

[KHenry14]

Hey, nice double and a RBI. I think you are back on track. :clapping

[BillyBuck]

HG, just curious about what happens when a player gets sent back down to the Triple-A team. Does the player usually get back into the starting lineup there? If so, what happens to the player that had been starting?

Is there a domino effect where another player who was backing up the starter get sent down to Double-A, and then another player gets sent down to Single-A?

Thanks,
Billly

[hiddengem]

Hey, nice double and a RBI. I think you are back on track. :clapping

Sometimes it takes a while to get back into the Rhythm of the game and get your timing down. I'm feeling better as of late.

[hiddengem]

HG, just curious about what happens when a player gets sent back down to the Triple-A team. Does the player usually get back into the starting lineup there? If so, what happens to the player that had been starting?

Is there a domino effect where another player who was backing up the starter get sent down to Double-A, and then another player gets sent down to Single-A?

Thanks,
Billly


Yes, usually if a player gets called up from AAA, he was most likely the everyday guy there. So when he gets sent down like in my case I'm back to playing everyday. I've actually played 3 different positions in the last 3 games. When I came back, an infielder was sent back to Extended ST.

Prieto just came back yesterday and we traded a catcher(Tom Gregorio) to the A's to make room for him.

[Bleacherbee]

I saved my scorecard from when your name was listed in the lineup :)

[hiddengem]

I saved my scorecard from when your name was listed in the lineup :)

Very cool. Wish I was there.

[DownUnderDodger]

When playing AAA do you ever play at Vegas AAA? Not that am in Vegas at present but just for future reference (mind you I don't mean for you to be always in AAA either!!).

[Zito75]

Ok, this is probably a tacky question... When you get called up/ sent down, whatever the case may be, how does the team do it? Do they call your agent, call you directly.... etc. I can just imagine you're out eating dinner and the cell phone rings...

[VH316]

Just found this website last week and I've been lurking ever since. Just decided to join today. Just wanted to say good luck to HG. I think it's great that you post here. Totally cool in my book.

I spent a few summers in college as a PA Announcer for a Southern League team. I can relate to the post about the PA guys screwing up peoples names. Luckily, I only did it once or twice. :D

[racosun]

Just found this website last week and I've been lurking ever since. Just decided to join today. Just wanted to say good luck to HG. I think it's great that you post here. Totally cool in my book.

I spent a few summers in college as a PA Announcer for a Southern League team. I can relate to the post about the PA guys screwing up peoples names. Luckily, I only did it once or twice. :D

Welcome to the Fever, VH316! :waving

[DownUnderDodger]

Just found this website last week and I've been lurking ever since. Just decided to join today. Just wanted to say good luck to HG. I think it's great that you post here. Totally cool in my book.

I spent a few summers in college as a PA Announcer for a Southern League team. I can relate to the post about the PA guys screwing up peoples names. Luckily, I only did it once or twice. :D
Hiya VH316 - glad you decide to join BF! I know what you mean about PA Announcers, being one myself, mainly in surf lifesaving and swimming competition. I am not ashamed to say I have goofed a few times - not just with people's names, but places (try saying Paekakariki during a beach sprint which takes all of 12 seconds - which I had to do while a guest announcer at the New Zealand Surf Championships in 1987 :D ) During the World Lifesaving Championships in 1988 though, I was given an arousing ovation by the Japanese team when I pronounced their names correctly - did my homework ;) Whoops, sorry I have digressed!

Now, back to HG..........

[Gamingboy]

Hey HG, I have on of those "Stereo-typical questions towards athletes": If you weren't playing Baseball, what would you be doing?

[hiddengem]

When playing AAA do you ever play at Vegas AAA? Not that am in Vegas at present but just for future reference (mind you I don't mean for you to be always in AAA either!!).

yea we just finished playing Vegas..I think we go back in August sometime.

[hiddengem]

Ok, this is probably a tacky question... When you get called up/ sent down, whatever the case may be, how does the team do it? Do they call your agent, call you directly.... etc. I can just imagine you're out eating dinner and the cell phone rings...

They usually call your manager first then he calls you...But not always. And yes it could happen we your are out to dinner.

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, I have on of those "Stereo-typical questions towards athletes": If you weren't playing Baseball, what would you be doing?


Good Question. I'm not really sure since baseball is all I've ever known and all I've ever done. I'll probably coach in some capacity.

[KHenry14]

Hey HG, I am wondering about something that maybe you can answer. In your experience, do Baseball organizations teach a particular style of baseball throughout their entire system. For example, for years the Orioles taught up and down their minor league system "Oriole Baseball" which meant good defense, strong starting pitching and the 3 run homer. Do organizations still teach a consistant way to play the game in their systems anymore? And if so, how does that differ, for example between what the Astros did versus what you are doing within the Angel's organization?

KH14

[bigtime39]

Hey HG, I am wondering about something that maybe you can answer. In your experience, do Baseball organizations teach a particular style of baseball throughout their entire system. For example, for years the Orioles taught up and down their minor league system "Oriole Baseball" which meant good defense, strong starting pitching and the 3 run homer. Do organizations still teach a consistant way to play the game in their systems anymore? And if so, how does that differ, for example between what the Astros did versus what you are doing within the Angel's organization?

KH14

KH:
I can't answer for HG, obviously, but one of the things Doc Rodgers did when he was the O's minor league coordinator was go back to consistent instruction at all levels, which the Orioles had gotten away from in the recent past. The farm system improved considerably under his direction, and is beginning to produce quality major-league players again.

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, I am wondering about something that maybe you can answer. In your experience, do Baseball organizations teach a particular style of baseball throughout their entire system. For example, for years the Orioles taught up and down their minor league system "Oriole Baseball" which meant good defense, strong starting pitching and the 3 run homer. Do organizations still teach a consistant way to play the game in their systems anymore? And if so, how does that differ, for example between what the Astros did versus what you are doing within the Angel's organization?

KH14


Every organization has similarities and differences between them. Obviously everybody wants to have good pitching and good defense. If you don't have that, then you don't win many ballgames.

The Angels teach a very aggresive offensive approach thoughout the system. Meaning going 1st to 3rd is a VERY high priority. They like to hit and run, bunt, put pressure on the other team. This approach to the game comes from the Major League Manager and how he wants his system to be run. With a new manager comes a new way of doing things. Scioscia could care less if you get thrown out at 3rd for the 1st or 3rd out, where most organizations despise that.

Hope that helps.

[racosun]

I would think that since managers come and go quicker than most GM's do, that the organization would be molded into the GM's view. That would seem to make more sense, since players tend to be in the team's systems longer than most managers stay at the big level. That way, when a manager gets fired or leaves, the entire organization wouldn't have to be readjusted to fit the styles of the new manager. The GM would simply hire the manager who best fits his vision of the organization.

[hiddengem]

I would think that since managers come and go quicker than most GM's do, that the organization would be molded into the GM's view. That would seem to make more sense, since players tend to be in the team's systems longer than most managers stay at the big level. That way, when a manager gets fired or leaves, the entire organization wouldn't have to be readjusted to fit the styles of the new manager. The GM would simply hire the manager who best fits his vision of the organization.


The Manager and GM don't always agree on how to run things but for the most part I would think they have the same basic ideas on how they want things to go.

[DianasMoon82]

HG, I would like to ask a question (raises hand).

Considering your style of play, which type of team would you rather play for, offence minded or defence minded, and if so, why?

Thanks, Diana

[racosun]

The Manager and GM don't always agree on how to run things but for the most part I would think they have the same basic ideas on how they want things to go.

Yeah, I would think so too (unless your names are Randy Smith and Phil Garner). ;)

[bigtime39]

The Angels teach a very aggresive offensive approach thoughout the system. Meaning going 1st to 3rd is a VERY high priority. They like to hit and run, bunt, put pressure on the other team. This approach to the game comes from the Major League Manager and how he wants his system to be run. With a new manager comes a new way of doing things. Scioscia could care less if you get thrown out at 3rd for the 1st or 3rd out, where most organizations despise that.

HG:
Do you see more organizations moving to this style of baseball in the future? I really prefer the aggressive, running style to the walk, walk, three-run HR game.

[hiddengem]

HG, I would like to ask a question (raises hand).

Considering your style of play, which type of team would you rather play for, offence minded or defence minded, and if so, why?

Thanks, Diana

Well, I'm a middle infielder so Defense needs to be my #1 priority even though my ego often times won't let that happen. So I feel I fit in good in this organization becuase they don't sit back and rely on the 3 run homer, but rather doing the little things to win games...defense, bunting, baserunning ect.

[hiddengem]

HG:
Do you see more organizations moving to this style of baseball in the future? I really prefer the aggressive, running style to the walk, walk, three-run HR game.

I wouldn't have said this before the BALCO scandal broke, but now that they are really cracking down on steroids I do see organizations putting more emphasis on the little things.

[Augustin_"Gus"]

Hey HG, how good is a compatriot of mine, Éric Cyrhe in your opinion? Think he's got a shot at pitching in the Bigs this season?

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, how good is a compatriot of mine, Éric Cyrhe in your opinion? Think he's got a shot at pitching in the Bigs this season?
Cyrhe is a good pitcher and has seen some Big League time with the Padres in the past. I've seen him pitch quite a bit this year, and I think if he gets a handle on his control, he'll be in the mix.

[wolverine0712]

A few questions for you:

1. Who is the best teammate that you have had?

2. Best pitcher you have faced?

3. What's your opinion on signing autographs (before games, after, at the hotel, etc)?

Thanks.

[NCSoxfan]

Hey

It's great to have this kind of resource, and since I just joined here, I dunno if this question has been asked already:

What do you do to get ready for the game when you will play? Do you listen to music, meditate, et al? I listen to music when I'm getting ready for my football games, and I was wondering what you did...

[hiddengem]

A few questions for you:

1. Who is the best teammate that you have had?

2. Best pitcher you have faced?

3. What's your opinion on signing autographs (before games, after, at the hotel, etc)?

Thanks.

I've had alot of great teamates along the way....Alan Zinter is a great friend and was an outstanding teamate.

Faced alot of great pitchers as well...But Scott Williamson was pretty tough..faced him in 03' in Houston, he was with the Reds.

I don't mind signing Autographs....I've always been pretty good about that...But I'm not in favor of people showing up at our hotel....I think that is our time away from the field, if they want an autograph they should go to the field.

[hiddengem]

Hey

It's great to have this kind of resource, and since I just joined here, I dunno if this question has been asked already:

What do you do to get ready for the game when you will play? Do you listen to music, meditate, et al? I listen to music when I'm getting ready for my football games, and I was wondering what you did...

I listen to music, sit in my locker and get locked in.

[RuthMayBond]

I don't mind signing Autographs....I've always been pretty good about that...But I'm not in favor of people showing up at our hotel....I think that is our time away from the field, if they want an autograph they should go to the field.Understood, but at least you sign. Lots of guys DON'T sign at the park and don't wanna sign anywhere :(

[wolverine0712]

When I meat at a hotel, I meant out side as you arrive. My brother in law and I waited after a game for the Dodgers to walk to there hotel in St. Louis (it is across the street from the stadium). We politely asked as the walked by the doors in front.

One more question:
When a player walks by on his cell phone, are they really talking to someone? I hear fans complain that the players just have the phones to their ears to avoid interacting with fans. Is this true?

[hiddengem]

When I meat at a hotel, I meant out side as you arrive. My brother in law and I waited after a game for the Dodgers to walk to there hotel in St. Louis (it is across the street from the stadium). We politely asked as the walked by the doors in front.

One more question:
When a player walks by on his cell phone, are they really talking to someone? I hear fans complain that the players just have the phones to their ears to avoid interacting with fans. Is this true?


I just don't think fans belong at our hotel if they are there to get autographs. Being asked for autographs at the yard is part of the game, but the hotel is our "Home" on the road and I don't think it is appropriate for somebody to show up at your home and ask for autographs.

I'm sure guys act like they are on the cell phone from time to time, but my guess is that might happen about 1% of the time or less.

[mojorisin71]

Question here:

Kellen Winslow, Sr. went off on the media yesterday, criticizing them for their endless coverage of his son's accident and injuries (he fell off his motorcycle in a parking lot), and he advised athletes not to read the papers or watch the news. You've said previously that you don't know your stats and don't want to know, but do you know anyone that actually does follow the media? And how often do you see your teammates doing that?

[hiddengem]

Question here:

Kellen Winslow, Sr. went off on the media yesterday, criticizing them for their endless coverage of his son's accident and injuries (he fell off his motorcycle in a parking lot), and he advised athletes not to read the papers or watch the news. You've said previously that you don't know your stats and don't want to know, but do you know anyone that actually does follow the media? And how often do you see your teammates doing that?


We all watch Sports Center, Baseball Tonight ect. Most of us read USA today and the local newspapers. We like to keep track of our friends and past teamates.

[racosun]

We all watch Sports Center, Baseball Tonight ect. Most of us read USA today and the local newspapers. We like to keep track of our friends and past teamates.

Of course you don't have to disclose, but what players do you like to keep an eye on?

[hiddengem]

Of course you don't have to disclose, but what players do you like to keep an eye on?

I've got so many...All my teamates back in Houston...Ensberg, Everett, Lane, Berkman ect. And many others from my stops along the way.

[KHenry14]

Hey HG, I saw that you faced Steve Sparks on Sunday. Can you comment on the difficulties facing a knuckleballer? Do you consciously change the way you approach an at bat against a Knuckleballer? And have you faced very many of them in the past?

KH14

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, I saw that you faced Steve Sparks on Sunday. Can you comment on the difficulties facing a knuckleballer? Do you consciously change the way you approach an at bat against a Knuckleballer? And have you faced very many of them in the past?

KH14

Depends on if the Knuckleball is on that day or not. His ball was just kind of tumbling towards home plate and I took some pretty good swings off him. The tough ones are like Wakefield, who's ball dances from side to side, up and down.

I personally try to see the ball up in the zone and hit it out in front. Some guys do it differently, its abnormal either way.

I've faced a few in the past, actually played with Jared Fernandez..his was pretty good.

[Sweet Lou]

So HG, how's the season been going for you? How do you feel about your performance on offense and defense, and how's the Stingers doing this season? How's the family and all that? We haven't had a good ol' update in a while, and I'd love to know how you're doing.

The Angels came to US Cellular Field last week, but I didn't bother going. Wish you were there, those were some good games. Did you happen to see any highlights?

[hiddengem]

So HG, how's the season been going for you? How do you feel about your performance on offense and defense, and how's the Stingers doing this season? How's the family and all that? We haven't had a good ol' update in a while, and I'd love to know how you're doing.

The Angels came to US Cellular Field last week, but I didn't bother going. Wish you were there, those were some good games. Did you happen to see any highlights?

My performance could always be better. I haven't quite found my groove yet, since returning from my stint in Anaheim. But I feel I'm close, really concentrating on my mental side of the game. Stingers are doing ok, we've lost some key players along the way, but we're hanging in there. Family is great, son is growing fast.

Watched some highlights, usually catch Baseball Tonight after our game.
Take care.

[KHenry14]

Hey HG, nice winning streak the team is on! I was curious, during the time you have been in the majors, did you notice a difference in the performance of the umpiring? Are the one's in the big's that much better than what you get in AAA?

KH14

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, nice winning streak the team is on! I was curious, during the time you have been in the majors, did you notice a difference in the performance of the umpiring? Are the one's in the big's that much better than what you get in AAA?

KH14


There isn't a huge difference to be honest, but I'd say the consistency is the main difference.

[AnaheimAngelsFan]

What do the pros say about pine tar on the ball? Is Donnelly a cheater? Did Mike and/or Robinson overreact?

What's the discussion around the locker room in Salt Lake?

And what about Erstad's hit on Estrada? Clean or dirty?

Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to your return to the Big A.

Bob

[hiddengem]

What do the pros say about pine tar on the ball? Is Donnelly a cheater? Did Mike and/or Robinson overreact?

What's the discussion around the locker room in Salt Lake?

And what about Erstad's hit on Estrada? Clean or dirty?

Hope all is well with you. Looking forward to your return to the Big A.

Bob


My guess based on experience is that 75+% of all pitchers "cheat" in some form or another. Whether it be pine tar, vasoline, sand paper, tacks in the glove ect.
Although I don't like it or agree with it, I understand pine tar's use in certain climates. States with low humidity will dry out your glove and your hands to the point of making them slippery. I often times put pine tar in my glove to keep it tacky, especially playing on the west coast. When I was in Texas I never needed anything.

Robinson in my opinion needs to relax. It appears to me that he thinks baseball owes him something, NOBODY is bigger than the game.

Our discusion was centered around what a great manager we have, and how he stands up for his players no matter what the situation is.

We all feel Erstad's hit was completely fair. If you don't want to get hit, don't stand anywhere near the plate. If I've seen many catchers pull dirty plays so they are fair game to me anytime they are around the plate.

Take care,
David

[west coast orange and black]

just a quick tip of the cap for puttin' yourself out there for us, h-g.
many thanx.

[west coast orange and black]

h-g, what the heck do you make -- if anything -- of the sciosia v robinson rhubarb?

sciosia went over to robinson to confront, and then robinson got in sciosia's face.
it was all very animated and nearly out of control.

"i wasn't going to let him intimidate me. i am the intimidator", stated robinson.

[hiddengem]

h-g, what the heck do you make -- if anything -- of the sciosia v robinson rhubarb?

sciosia went over to robinson to confront, and then robinson got in sciosia's face.
it was all very animated and nearly out of control.

"i wasn't going to let him intimidate me. i am the intimidator", stated robinson.

To be honest, I've never played for or even met Robinson, but I've never heard anything good about him from guys that have. I was very proud of Scioscia for not backing down to him, it seems as though Robinson feels the game owes him something.

[west coast orange and black]

he's a helluva good guy once you get to know him... but he does take some time to get to know.

it was an interesting moment:
old old-school v new old-school

take care, man.

[Bob Hannah]

Robinson in my opinion needs to relax. It appears to me that he thinks baseball owes him something, NOBODY is bigger than the game.

Could you explain this for me, please? I don't understand the reasoning why you feel Robinson is owed something by baseball for this incident and that he may be bigger than the game.

[KHenry14]

The thing with Frank is that he's a very proud guy, and takes offense easily. And he's always been like that. WCOB undoubtedly will remember the time former Giants Pitcher (and noted hothead) Jim Barr, who upon being relieved by Frank, just flipped the ball up in the air to Frank as he was leaving the mound. Well Frank grabbed him and dressed him down right there on the mound in front of all the fans! Yowsa. Frank felt Barr was showing him up (and he was right about that) and he hates that. I bet he assumed the same from Mike, difference is that Scioscia wouldn't do that.

BTW HG, I'm glad to know that your view of Scoiscia dovetails to my opinion of him. He seems like a terrific manager.

Also, I don't know if you saw the replay from yesterday's Red Sox/Pirates game where Varitek blocked the plate with his leg as a Pirates guy tried to score. Dude bounced right off of Varitek's shinguards and he was tagged out. I yelled to my wife "the guy should have used the 'Edge' slide and he'd have been safe!" She had no idea what I was talking about, so I explained to her about you and showed her the pic of you doing that. I thought you might like to know that your slide is now in the baseball lexicon! :laugh

KH14

[trosmok]

Managing a baseball team is no popularity contest, but in a recent poll of 175 players, Robby was voted least liked, barely worse than Showalter. One guess is this is only because Bowa has been discharged. The yammerers always try to make something of a "players' manager" v. taskmaster, disciplinarian type styles. I always thought Robinson has had one of the toughest assignments in all of sports for the last two seasons, and I still have a world of respect for his accomplishments. Scioscia has a reputation in the media as being straightforward, honest, firm, and most of all confident in his methods for success. I seem to recall in your ST thread some mention of how his was no nonsense approach, but still had the utmost respect from and for his players. Is that a fair assessment? And are you able to share a little insight into your current skipper, Dino Ebel's approach to managing the Stingers?

[Bob Hannah]

sciosia went over to robinson to confront, and then robinson got in sciosia's face.
it was all very animated and nearly out of control.

You might be softballing Scioscia's conduct here. The incident was well documented nationally and by both local markets. Most accounts agree Scioscia was quite agressive in his demeanor toward Robinson. Robinson took exception in that Scioscia should have been adressing his comments to the umpires, not Robinson, when Scioscia stated to Robinson he would have the umpires "undress every f**king one of [Robinson's] pitchers on the mound."

I know we all have a personal bias. Mine has shown through the threads that have appeared on BBF about this incident and its aftermath. I read extensively the reports that came out of both makrkets and observed/listended much of the national broadcast coverage, both television and radio, and it seems the concensus was Scioscia initiated the conflict and was the first transgressor in the conflict.

Robbie's right. He won't be intimidated.

[KHenry14]

I was asked to provide a pic of HG doing his "edge" slide... SAFE!!

[hiddengem]

Could you explain this for me, please? I don't understand the reasoning why you feel Robinson is owed something by baseball for this incident and that he may be bigger than the game.

What I meant by that was, I feel that Robinson takes the stance that from what he has done in the game and what he has accomplished that people in baseball and baseball in general owe him something(respect).

Sure, I've got respect for what he has done and I'm sure Scioscia does as well, but that doesn't mean that when managing against Frank you have to manage or do things different than if you where managing against somebody else. All this talk about how Scioscia didn't give Frank "respect" is a load of garbage in my opinion.

Every manager in the game knows that pitchers cheat on a daily basis and for Frank to call out Brendon like that, although perfectly legit, was kind of bush in my opinion, and Scioscia took exception to it.

On a side note..I heard through the grapevine that after the confrontation with Donnelly, many of the national pitchers were seen trying to clean up their gloves, before possibly entering the game. I feel Frank might have dug a hole for his pitchers.

[hiddengem]

Managing a baseball team is no popularity contest, but in a recent poll of 175 players, Robby was voted least liked, barely worse than Showalter. One guess is this is only because Bowa has been discharged. The yammerers always try to make something of a "players' manager" v. taskmaster, disciplinarian type styles. I always thought Robinson has had one of the toughest assignments in all of sports for the last two seasons, and I still have a world of respect for his accomplishments. Scioscia has a reputation in the media as being straightforward, honest, firm, and most of all confident in his methods for success. I seem to recall in your ST thread some mention of how his was no nonsense approach, but still had the utmost respect from and for his players. Is that a fair assessment? And are you able to share a little insight into your current skipper, Dino Ebel's approach to managing the Stingers?

This post doesn't suprise me at all, its precisely what I've heard. Yes, that is a fair assessment about Scioscia. Ebel is a high energy type of coach, a good manager that is finding his way in AAA. He's like Scioscia, in that he expects you to play hard and if you do that then you'll be fine.

[hiddengem]

I was asked to provide a pic of HG doing his "edge" slide... SAFE!


Nice Picture, this is how the nickname came about.

[hiddengem]

Robinson took exception in that Scioscia should have been adressing his comments to the umpires, not Robinson, when Scioscia stated to Robinson he would have the umpires "undress every f**king one of [Robinson's] pitchers on the mound."

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I hope you don't think Scioscia is the only manager in the league that uses that type of language.

[KHenry14]

HG, I know you guys recently faced Giants phenom Matt Cain, and I am just wondering what you and your guys think of him and his big league prospects?

KH14

[KHenry14]

If you liked the other pic, I think you'll like this one better.

[Imapotato]

The thing with Frank is that he's a very proud guy, and takes offense easily. And he's always been like that. WCOB undoubtedly will remember the time former Giants Pitcher (and noted hothead) Jim Barr, who upon being relieved by Frank, just flipped the ball up in the air to Frank as he was leaving the mound. Well Frank grabbed him and dressed him down right there on the mound in front of all the fans! Yowsa. Frank felt Barr was showing him up (and he was right about that) and he hates that. I bet he assumed the same from Mike, difference is that Scioscia wouldn't do that.

BTW HG, I'm glad to know that your view of Scoiscia dovetails to my opinion of him. He seems like a terrific manager.

Also, I don't know if you saw the replay from yesterday's Red Sox/Pirates game where Varitek blocked the plate with his leg as a Pirates guy tried to score. Dude bounced right off of Varitek's shinguards and he was tagged out. I yelled to my wife "the guy should have used the 'Edge' slide and he'd have been safe!" She had no idea what I was talking about, so I explained to her about you and showed her the pic of you doing that. I thought you might like to know that your slide is now in the baseball lexicon! :laugh

KH14


Don't forget Frank had to endure those years in Montreal...he was boiling to the lid already :)

[west coast orange and black]

You might be softballing Scioscia's conduct here.unintentionally done., bob. it's just how the words came out at the time.

I know we all have a personal bias.how true. for me, though, robinson has long been one of my favorites.

Robbie's right. He won't be intimidated.you got that right, man. take it to the bank.

[hiddengem]

HG, I know you guys recently faced Giants phenom Matt Cain, and I am just wondering what you and your guys think of him and his big league prospects?

KH14

He deffinetly has good "stuff" throws hard and appears to be a competetor. He often times acts his age on the mound, but if he can stay healthy I've got to believe you'll see him in San Fran at some point.

[RuthMayBond]

Don't forget Frank had to endure those years in Montreal...he was boiling to the lid already :)And Cleveland . . .
. . . AND San Fran . . .
. . . AND Baltimore. That'd make ya feel :grouchy :grouchy :grouchy

[BasEbaLlKnoItAll]

hey hg, i was able to watch the game tonight, Altitude (Colorado based regional sports network) was airing it...first time i was really able to sit and watch you play since Spring Training, i didnt see much of you after your callup...anyways it was good to watch you play.

[Bob Hannah]

I hope you don't think Scioscia is the only manager in the league that uses that type of language.

Please, please, please. A babe in the woods I'm not. Reports I've read and heard (and I have followed the story extensively since first seeing it happen, reading local reports in both cities, watching local and national sportscasts) are that Robinson thought Scioscia had absolutely no business directing his tirade toward Robinson, that it was misplaced and Scioscia's anger got the better or him, that he took it out on Robinson.

It wasn't just the f-bomb Scioscia dropped, it was where he dropped it. The target should have been the umpires. That's what Robinson said. Scioscia has the right to take it to umpires if he feels rules are being transgressed and should take it to them, not the opposing manager.

[Bob Hannah]

Don't forget Frank had to endure those years in Montreal...he was boiling to the lid already :)
D.C. ain't Montreal by a long shot. He's down to a simmer.

[Bob Hannah]

What I meant by that was, I feel that Robinson takes the stance that from what he has done in the game and what he has accomplished that people in baseball and baseball in general owe him something(respect).

I agree that no one is bigger than the game. But I also agree there aren't too many retired players who are bigger than Robinson and he has given much to the game. ROY, MVP in leagues, Triple Crown, Hall of Fame, Series MVP, numerous All Star selections, Manager of the Year- the list goes on and on.

Though not on the leading edge of breaking the color line (Jackie Robinson, Larry Doby, Monte Irvin, et. al., F. Robinson being a rookie in 1957) he certainly didn't have a stroll in the park at the time of his entry into the game. He helped further the advance of blacks in baseball, becoming the first black manager in the big leagues. Just as Jackie Robinson was chosen not only for his skill, the same thought process went into Robinson's appointment as Cleveland's manager-basically, he had the right makeup for the position. He was the right guy.

Many retired greats-Williams, DiMaggio, Mays, Aaron, Musial, Feller-are given such respect by others in the game by virtue of past accomplishments. Why not Robinson? Perhaps it is because he has stayed active in the game, and is currently very much in the public view. Had he retired quietly after his managerial stints prior to taking over his current position, I certainly feel he would be viewed more as a living legend. He would be more distant. The passage of time helps to build the legacy of a legend as the legend itself is not so easily within our grasp.

The game owing any one star anything? I disagree. The game would not be what it is without these men and their accomplishments. They are not bigger than the game, but the game would not be so big without them. Baseball pays it's respect by enshrining these men in Cooperstown.


Sure, I've got respect for what he has done and I'm sure Scioscia does as well, but that doesn't mean that when managing against Frank you have to manage or do things different than if you where managing against somebody else. All this talk about how Scioscia didn't give Frank "respect" is a load of garbage in my opinion.

I think you misinterpret the "respect" Robinson was speaking of . You say Robinson feels he is owed respect for what he has accomplished in the past. From all indications, Robinson refers to the respect one manager would give another as a fellow manager and as a person. He didn't indicate Scioscia should defer to him because of who he is and his past accomplishments. He seemed to be refering to common decency. This wasn't shown on Scioscia's part. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking Scioscia. He seems a good manager and from all I have read or observed in the media he relates well to players, he knows how to motivate players, they like him and respond with positive results to his style. No knock on the guy. He just seems to have momentarily lost his cool. Which is fine. We all do it.


Every manager in the game knows that pitchers cheat on a daily basis and for Frank to call out Brendon like that, although perfectly legit, was kind of bush in my opinion, and Scioscia took exception to it.
In my oinion it was a calculated and strategic managerial manuver that had positive results for the Nationals in that game and in the following game. It is also well known Donnelly has been warned in regard to going to his mouth while on the mound.

On a side note..I heard through the grapevine that after the confrontation with Donnelly, many of the national pitchers were seen trying to clean up their gloves, before possibly entering the game. I feel Frank might have dug a hole for his pitchers.
That is one one of the first things that come to mind. Through Robinson's actions, he may have, though only for a while, made pitchers not only on his team but MLB wide, change their mound habits. Its probably just a bump in the road and by July they'll all be back at it.

There is phrase used, called habits and practices. Though an organization may have standards it follows, or a local jurisdiction may have a taken for granted ordinance against certain public actions, these standards or ordinances are commonly disregarded by the organization members or the general public. At the same time the governing authority may overlook the transgressions. But the standard or law is still there. Once an offender is fingered, the authority is bound by its own policy to act. Thats what happened here. Things will get back to normal before long. Robinson pulled a slick one.

I would like to play devil's advocate for a moment. Seeing that you are within the Angels organization, do you think your take on this incident is tempered by the possibility that at any given time Mike Scioscia could become your boss? Do you think you may see it differently if you currently played in New Orleans?

[Augustin_"Gus"]

[QUOTE=Bob Hannah]

I think you misinterpret the "respect" Robinson was speaking of . You say Robinson feels he is owed respect for what he has accomplished in the past. From all indications, Robinson refers to the respect one manager would give another as a fellow manager and as a person.
QUOTE]

trust me Bob, I don't believe Dave misinterpreted anything. Actually, I think he sized Robinson pretty well. When Frank talks about respect, he's talking about the defference everybody associated with the game of baseball should show for him at every moment of their lives. Wich by the way is a one way street. We bow to Frank, he acts up to his own standards of indecency and lack of class.

[hiddengem]

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I would like to play devil's advocate for a moment. Seeing that you are within the Angels organization, do you think your take on this incident is tempered by the possibility that at any given time Mike Scioscia could become your boss? Do you think you may see it differently if you currently played in New Orleans?

If I were playing for New Orleans, I wouldn't be participating in this thread.

Hey listen, I'm quite sure Frank has alot of positive attributes he brings to a team, but in this instance I think he was out of line. When he said "Nobody intimidates me, I'm the intimadator" that was it for me. Scioscia has brass jewels and he let Frank know that the stunt he pulled was BS, and Frank didn't like it. Deal with it. Sure Frank came out on top for a moment, but I'll guarantee he's made his own pitchers think twice.

[hiddengem]

Please, please, please. A babe in the woods I'm not. Reports I've read and heard (and I have followed the story extensively since first seeing it happen, reading local reports in both cities, watching local and national sportscasts) are that Robinson thought Scioscia had absolutely no business directing his tirade toward Robinson, that it was misplaced and Scioscia's anger got the better or him, that he took it out on Robinson.

It wasn't just the f-bomb Scioscia dropped, it was where he dropped it. The target should have been the umpires. That's what Robinson said. Scioscia has the right to take it to umpires if he feels rules are being transgressed and should take it to them, not the opposing manager.

There was nothing that Scioscia could have said to the Umpires. Donnelly was caught fair and square, so he decided to let Frank know that he thought it was a bush move and his pitchers better watch themselves.

[Bob Hannah]

There was nothing that Scioscia could have said to the Umpires. Donnelly was caught fair and square, so he decided to let Frank know that he thought it was a bush move and his pitchers better watch themselves.
If I were a manager I would take that as threatening. And if he felt Robinsons's pitchers should watch themselves, that should be an issue a manager would need to bring up to the umps, not the opposing manager.

This what Scioscia about it afterward-

"I only wanted to prepare Frank and the umpires that what's good for the goose is good for the gander," Scioscia said. He is quoted in this article. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2087115) and that is an issue to be taken up with the umpires, not the opposing manager. Did he think he would be doing Robinson a favor by forewarning him? I wouldn't think so.

[Bob Hannah]

If I were playing for New Orleans, I wouldn't be participating in this thread.

Hey listen, I'm quite sure Frank has alot of positive attributes he brings to a team, but in this instance I think he was out of line. When he said "Nobody intimidates me, I'm the intimadator" that was it for me. Scioscia has brass jewels and he let Frank know that the stunt he pulled was BS, and Frank didn't like it. Deal with it. Sure Frank came out on top for a moment, but I'll guarantee he's made his own pitchers think twice.
Frank's are brassier.

And I've got no problem dealing with it. Please save the little catch phrase for someone else. I haven't responded to you in this manner and I expect the same in return. So far the discourse has been fine, opinion being expressed. Don't take it somewhere else.

Sciascia took a media beating for his actions. He lost his cool. It didn't appear to too many he came out on top of anything.

[KHenry14]

Bob, it makes no difference if Scioscia got hammered in the media. What matters is how Mike's team reacts. And they are just fine with what he did. HG would know more obviously, but as of now he hasn't indicated that anybody had a problem with Mike's actions, and I'd be very surprised if there were a problem.

And while Frank's well known pricklyness somehow gets blown over in this episode, there is no way that he'd be able to intimidate Scoscia. The guy was the best blocker of the plate in the last 50 years, so some 70 year old man isn't going to scare him.

But to be honest, I'm surprised that this incident is being discussed at all. It's over and done IMO.

KH14

[RuthMayBond]

And I've got no problem dealing with it. Please save the little catch phrase for someone else. I haven't responded to you in this manner and I expect the same in return. So far the discourse has been fine, opinion being expressed. Don't take it somewhere else.

Sciascia took a media beating for his actions. He lost his cool. It didn't appear to too many he came out on top of anything.But maybe someone who's actually played the game actually knows what's going on more than the media looking for a story?

[hiddengem]

Frank's are brassier.

And I've got no problem dealing with it. Please save the little catch phrase for someone else. I haven't responded to you in this manner and I expect the same in return. So far the discourse has been fine, opinion being expressed. Don't take it somewhere else.

Sciascia took a media beating for his actions. He lost his cool. It didn't appear to too many he came out on top of anything.


Actually, I wasn't referring to you at all, I was making referance to Frank needing to deal with somebody actually standing up to him for a change.

[hiddengem]

If I were a manager I would take that as threatening. And if he felt Robinsons's pitchers should watch themselves, that should be an issue a manager would need to bring up to the umps, not the opposing manager.

This what Scioscia about it afterward-
He is quoted in this article. (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2087115) and that is an issue to be taken up with the umpires, not the opposing manager. Did he think he would be doing Robinson a favor by forewarning him? I wouldn't think so.

Give me a break...I can hear Scioscia now.." Uh Mr. Umpire I just want to let you know that Frank's pitchers better watch themselves" The umpire would look at him and tell him he could give a crap less. Mike did exactly what needed to be done.
Just take my word on this one, there are many things that go on in this game that fans have no clue about and never will. Its called the game within the game, most of which the fans have no clue about or even when its happening.

[racosun]

Actually, I wasn't referring to you at all, I was making referance to Frank needing to deal with somebody actually standing up to him for a change.

Bob, this is the way I read it too. I'm sure hiddengem isn't going to let a baseball discussion make him lose his cool or become rude.

[bigtime39]

Just take my word on this one, there are many things that go on in this game that fans have no clue about and never will. Its called the game within the game, most of which the fans have no clue about or even when its happening.

HG:
And that's why I read this, and your previous thread, for your insight into "the game within the game." For those like me, who will get no closer to what you do than being a (bad) slow-pitch softball player, it's a fascinating glimpse inside a world we'd otherwise never see.
Can you elaborate more on the game within the game? Anything recent that illustrates it?

[Bob Hannah]

Bob, it makes no difference if Scioscia got hammered in the media. What matters is how Mike's team reacts. And they are just fine with what he did. HG would know more obviously, but as of now he hasn't indicated that anybody had a problem with Mike's actions, and I'd be very surprised if there were a problem.

And while Frank's well known pricklyness somehow gets blown over in this episode, there is no way that he'd be able to intimidate Scoscia. The guy was the best blocker of the plate in the last 50 years, so some 70 year old man isn't going to scare him.

But to be honest, I'm surprised that this incident is being discussed at all. It's over and done IMO.KH14
Threads concerning the incident appeared in Current Events and the Nationals forum shortly after it's occurence. This discussion didn't get started until late and appeared one sided. I joined in to offer a different perspective.

I think the better story here is our crotchety senior citizen refusing to be bullied by a man 23 years his junior. Scioscia picked the wrong guy. The D.C. and L.A. papers certainly didn't avoid Robinson's attitude. The national print and broadcast media didn't highlight it as much. I don't know how well you followed the story. I read and watched as much as I could find on it for the several days it made news.

The effect it had on Scioscia's team wasn't really something I put thought into. It didn't matter to me, but thanks.

Was HG speaking about the major league team or the minor league one? I hadn't thought he was on the 25 man roster at the time it happened.

[Bob Hannah]

Actually, I wasn't referring to you at all, I was making referance to Frank needing to deal with somebody actually standing up to him for a change.
Please pardon the misinterpretation on my part.

Robby seems to have dealt with just fine. Looked to me as if he hasn't missed a beat since the sixties. Of course the hip operation has slowed him down some.

[Bob Hannah]

But maybe someone who's actually played the game actually knows what's going on more than the media looking for a story?
Presumably the game you reference is baseball and not one-upmanship.

If the game we are talking of is baseball, I'm not privy to that person's knowledge. Can you enlighten me?

If the game we are talking about is the one Robinson and Scioscia engaged in, the answer the answer is most assuredly yes.

I don't see this as the media looking for a story. It was handed to the media on a silver platter.

[Bob Hannah]

Give me a break...I can hear Scioscia now.." Uh Mr. Umpire I just want to let you know that Frank's pitchers better watch themselves" The umpire would look at him and tell him he could give a crap less. Mike did exactly what needed to be done.
Just take my word on this one, there are many things that go on in this game that fans have no clue about and never will. Its called the game within the game, most of which the fans have no clue about or even when its happening.

Scioscia is one who said it. He admitted as much. Again (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2087115)-


"I only wanted to prepare Frank and the umpires that what's good for the goose is good for the gander," Scioscia said.

The "game within the game" is something that occurs in all vocations, be it atheltics, public safety, the teaching profession, government employment, hospitality services, etc. Those not in the loop are probably better off not knowing.

[hiddengem]

HG:
And that's why I read this, and your previous thread, for your insight into "the game within the game." For those like me, who will get no closer to what you do than being a (bad) slow-pitch softball player, it's a fascinating glimpse inside a world we'd otherwise never see.
Can you elaborate more on the game within the game? Anything recent that illustrates it?

Well I appreciate that, thank you. So many things happen during a game that might change the outcome that most never see. Could be as simple as a slight change in the positioning of an infielder or outfielder, to the cat and mouse game that occurs when deciding what pitcher to get up for which hitter, while thinking about opposing pinch hitters that are available.

Pitchers playing head games with hitters..throwing certain pitches early in the game to set up At Bats later in the game. Or a hitter purposely looking bad on a pitch so he'll get it again and tee off.

Ways managers stop the running game, by picking over to first 3, 4 times in a row. Pitchers changing the way they deliver the ball, sometimes fast sometimes slow.

How about this one...I'm the hitter and a runner on first with no outs late in the game. Everybody in the park thinks I'm going to bunt but me and my team, we're going to hit and run.

Here is what happens, the pitcher comes set and picks over to first to see if I make a move to bunt, I do to make them think I am. He picks again and again I make a sudden move like I'm going to square. Next time, he delivers home, the 3rd baseman crashes hard and I'm swinging away and most likely I'll get a perfect pitch to hit because they want me to bunt the ball and get an out. Result hopefully is 1st and 3rd nobody out.

Stuff like that. Hope that was helpful.

Stuff like that.

[west coast orange and black]

How about this one...I'm the hitter and a runner on first with no outs late in the game. Everybody in the park thinks I'm going to bunt but me and my team, we're going to hit and run.

Here is what happens, the pitcher comes set and picks over to first to see if I make a move to bunt, I do to make them think I am. He picks again and again I make a sudden move like I'm going to square. Next time, he delivers home, the 3rd baseman crashes hard and I'm swinging away and most likely I'll get a perfect pitch to hit because they want me to bunt the ball and get an out. Result hopefully is 1st and 3rd nobody out.the giants were in oakland tonight and i attended.

at one point, scotty eyre tossed over to first base. not to keep the runner close, per se, but to see if the hitter's knees would bend at all, possibly tipping an upcoming bunt. (the batter did not tip his hand, and ended up swinging away.)

but then i have seen batters in that same situation wobble a bit on a throw-over to first, only to rake the first offering from the pitcher.

headgames is right, h-g.
and thanx for your continued interest and insight.

[racosun]

Next time, he delivers home, the 3rd baseman crashes hard and I'm swinging away and most likely I'll get a perfect pitch to hit because they want me to bunt the ball and get an out. Result hopefully is 1st and 3rd nobody out.

But you said you were the hitter, so more than likely it would end up as a two-run shot to the bleachers. :clapping

[west coast orange and black]

...last I saw he was pitching for the cubs AAA team but I don't know where he is now.he was with the mariners this spring, but where he is now... dunno.

[west coast orange and black]

dude, found nate bland.

he's with los potros de tijuana, mexico. (the tijuana colts of the northern mexican league)

[hiddengem]

dude, found nate bland.

he's with los potros de tijuana, mexico. (the tijuana colts of the northern mexican league)

Its Crazy where this game takes you.

[racosun]

Its Crazy where this game takes you.

Speaking of crazy, what's the craziest play you've ever witnessed or been involved in, hg?

[west coast orange and black]

Its Crazy where this game takes you.definately one aspect of the game that would be extremely difficult for me, man.
the uprooting would simply KILL me. (tip o' the cap)

[trosmok]

Just take my word on this one, there are many things that go on in this game that fans have no clue about and never will. Its called the game within the game, most of which the fans have no clue about or even when its happening.

Truer words have not been posted here, and that's just another big reason why your contributions here are greatly appreciated. So often the fans are at the mercy of writers and telecasters trying to offer their insights, which are quite hollow compared to someone like you that is currently living the life. I thought I knew a bunch about what really goes on because of my seasonal employment, but I'm privy to very little more than the fans in the stands, and not at all to the clubhouse. The examples you cited regarding the mental games played can sometimes be detected, but not nearly as often as I'd like.

Yesterday I noticed you were the DH, and weren't in the game Sunday. Hope everything is ok healthwise, but I was wondering if you approach the DH role any differently? It must be kind of like pinch hitting four or five times a game, and I never cared for the rule myself.

[hiddengem]

Speaking of crazy, what's the craziest play you've ever witnessed or been involved in, hg?

Oh man..I don't know..I had an unassisted triple play in high school. But in pro ball, nothing crazy I can remeber.

Now, Crazy places...different story.

[hiddengem]

Truer words have not been posted here, and that's just another big reason why your contributions here are greatly appreciated. So often the fans are at the mercy of writers and telecasters trying to offer their insights, which are quite hollow compared to someone like you that is currently living the life. I thought I knew a bunch about what really goes on because of my seasonal employment, but I'm privy to very little more than the fans in the stands, and not at all to the clubhouse. The examples you cited regarding the mental games played can sometimes be detected, but not nearly as often as I'd like.

Yesterday I noticed you were the DH, and weren't in the game Sunday. Hope everything is ok healthwise, but I was wondering if you approach the DH role any differently? It must be kind of like pinch hitting four or five times a game, and I never cared for the rule myself.


Well, as you can probably imagine I don't have very many DH's days under my belt because of the type of player I am. But right now, we have waaaay too many infielders here, so our manager is trying to get everybody playing time. We've had a couple of infielders that have been hot for a while, so they deserve the playing time right now. But I've been doing much better as of late and I smell a good 2nd half for me.

DHing is kind of like pinch hitting 4 times in the same day. You try and stay focused, go under the tunnel and swing in the cage to stay loose. But the way I approach it is the same way I approach Golf. If I'm playing a course that is backed up, I'll never put my ball on the tee, club in hand and stand over my ball and wait. I'll find something else to do and keep my mind of my next shot.

Same thing with DH'ing I don't keep my batting gloves on and my bat in hand. I don't want to sit there and think about my last AB or fester over my next, I just want to go up there and react like I would if I were playing the field.

[west coast orange and black]

...Now, Crazy places...different story.ever play in mexico? being in texas and southern california, and all.

[hiddengem]

ever play in mexico? being in texas and southern california, and all.

Nope had an opportunity at one point to play winter ball over there, but a baby was on the way. Family first. :)

I have played in Spain, Canada, and Japan.

[bigtime39]

Nope had an opportunity at one point to play winter ball over there, but a baby was on the way. Family first. :)

I have played in Spain, Canada, and Japan.

HG:
Where did you play in Japan? I would love to hear your take on Japanese baseball from the inside. Did you have "wa?" :laugh

[hiddengem]

HG:
Where did you play in Japan? I would love to hear your take on Japanese baseball from the inside. Did you have "wa?" :laugh

I played for the USA national team. We played in Tokyo, and took the Bullet Train all over the place. Actually played in Ichiro's old stadium in Orix(sp).

Japanese baseball is very fundamental, and they do alot of crazy warm ups before the game. They are smaller by nature, so they don't have the power we have, all of their pitchers seem to have the same mechanics, and even today I can tell when a pitcher is from Japan based on the way they throw.

They are a very respectful culture, always bowing to the umpire and they treated us great. The food, well lets just say it takes some time to get used to. :)

[Atlanta Braves Freak]

HG, I remember earlier you said you were co-owner of a batting cage, where is it located and what is the name of it?

[Ontarioguy]

Where in Canada have you played HG?

[Bluesteve32]

Where in Canada have you played HG?

Forgot to ask the Dabney Coleman question in North Dalls Forty, "You do speak Canadian, don't you?"

[Zito75]

Now, Crazy places...different story.

Indeed. How about Tucson on $1 beer night??? :laugh :laugh :laugh

[hiddengem]

Where in Canada have you played HG?

Toronto(SkyDome)
Guelph(sp)
Ottawa(sp)

[DownUnderDodger]

I and even today I can tell when a pitcher is from Japan based on the way they throw.
I thought there were some other characteristics that may have given them away ;) :laugh Seriously though, your travels as a player must have been a great experience. Have you any ambition to play "down under"?

[hiddengem]

I thought there were some other characteristics that may have given them away ;) :laugh Seriously though, your travels as a player must have been a great experience. Have you any ambition to play "down under"?

Not really, but it would have been fun to go over there and play as an amature. I think at this point in my career the only 2 places I'd play are Japan and the U.S.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Nope had an opportunity at one point to play winter ball over there, but a baby was on the way. Family first. :)

I have played in Spain, Canada, and Japan.

Did you play in the local competitions then? If so, the level in Spain should not have been a problem for you.

You said you have played for the US national team in Japan. Was that during a world championship tournament?

BTW. I will leave for the US next Thursday. I have checked if you were playing in Las Vegas, when we are there. Unfortunatly you are not.
Why don't you ask for a trade to LV, so I can see you play there? :laugh
We will visit Bryce Canyon and Zion, but that is still too far a way from Salt Lake City. Too bad.

[hiddengem]

Did you play in the local competitions then? If so, the level in Spain should not have been a problem for you.

You said you have played for the US national team in 1997 in Japan. Was that during a world championship tournament?

BTW. I will leave for the US next Thursday. I have checked if you were playing in Las Vegas, when we are there. Unfortunatly you are not.
Why don't you ask for a trade to LV, so I can see you play there? :laugh
We will visit Bryce Canyon and Zion, but that is still too far a way from Salt Lake City. Too bad.


While we were in Spain, we were competing in the "Intercontinental Cup" We played against Cuba, Japn, Korea, Spain, Netherlands and a few others I believe.

While in Japan, we were just playing against Japan. I think we played 13 games there in many different cities.

[Augustin_"Gus"]

Say HG, I can't remember If I wanted to ask and didn't or if I actually asked. If I did, sorry, but here it goes: From what I know of the Mormon religion, it forbids the consumption of alcool. Do you find that the home crowd in Utah is different from other markets you've played in beacuse of that? Do they even sell beer at the park?

[Ontarioguy]

Hey HG,

What do you plan to do with the free time given to you over the All-Star break? Just enjoy the days with family and stay away from the park or do you have something important to do?

Have a great second half! :clapping

[hiddengem]

Say HG, I can't remember If I wanted to ask and didn't or if I actually asked. If I did, sorry, but here it goes: From what I know of the Mormon religion, it forbids the consumption of alcool. Do you find that the home crowd in Utah is different from other markets you've played in beacuse of that? Do they even sell beer at the park?


The Mormon Religion frowns on many things, some I think are a little over the top, but who am I to judge so I just leave them alone. They arent' supposed to have anything with Caffeine or Alchohol but we sell both at the stadium.

Many minorleague ballparks have a promotion called "Thirsy Thursday" basically dollar drinks. We get a pretty good crowd out it, so I can only assume that the Mormon's in town are drinking or that we have alot of Non-Mormons attending our games.

[DownUnderDodger]

While we were in Spain, we were competing in the "Intercontinental Cup" We played against Cuba, Japn, Korea, Spain, Netherlands and a few others I believe.


Australia (Sydney) hosted (and won) the Intercontinental Cup in 1999. I presume you were still an amateur in 1997 and had moved on to the prefessional ranks by 1999? In 1999 I actually went to few games including a USA v Cuba game.



yankees rule said I will leave for the US next Thursday. I have checked if you were playing in Las Vegas, when we are there. It is a shame I will not be in Vegas when you are there, as it would have been great to catch up with you for a beer or :coffee . Have a fantastic trip! :waving

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

Australia (Sydney) hosted (and won) the Intercontinental Cup in 1999. I presume you were still an amateur in 1997 and had moved on to the prefessional ranks by 1999? In 1999 I actually went to few games including a USA v Cuba game.


It is a shame I will not be in Vegas when you are there, as it would have been great to catch up with you for a beer or :coffee . Have a fantastic trip! :waving

Thank you. Enjoy your stay as well.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

HG, I have read that the your parent club designated you for assignment.

Does this mean that you will be fired? (I'll cross my fingers, that you are not) I don't understand this assignment system.

[trosmok]

Enjoy the longest break of the AAA season, hiddengem. Don't know if you simply want some R & R, or if you do family stuff, but I do know most months the team only has one day off. (June 15th was the last for the IndyIndians). Next off day in the schedule is Aug.3rd, and the season wraps up around Labor day. Glad to know you're still keeping it positive and I still like the odds of seeing you in September (if not before) with the Big Club. But I also saw they designated you for assignment, does that mean a trade might be in the works or are they just juggling some personell. Don't you have a contract with the minor legue team as well as the parent club?

[hiddengem]

HG, I have read that the parent club designated you for assignment.

Does this mean that you will be fired? (I'll cross my fingers, that you are not) I don't understand this assignment system.

No, just means that I was taken off the roster. Haven't had a great past month and a half and they needed an infielder, and we had a guy here that was doing a fine job so they called him. They needed my roster spot to bring him up.

I'm not fired, but I had the option to decline the assingment and declare Free Agency or Accept the Assignment and go back down. I spoke with the gm for quite a while and he indicated that he really hoped I would stay and they are still high on me and hope I can get back on track and be up in Sept if not sooner. So I decided to stay.

[hiddengem]

Enjoy the longest break of the AAA season, hiddengem. Don't know if you simply want some R & R, or if you do family stuff, but I do know most months the team only has one day off. (June 15th was the last for the IndyIndians). Next off day in the schedule is Aug.3rd, and the season wraps up around Labor day. Glad to know you're still keeping it positive and I still like the odds of seeing you in September (if not before) with the Big Club. But I also saw they designated you for assignment, does that mean a trade might be in the works or are they just juggling some personell. Don't you have a contract with the minor legue team as well as the parent club?

Yea it will be some nice time off. Time to clear the head and get ready for the 2nd half push. Probably won't be traded, and hopefully I'll get back on track and be ready for a Sept callup if thats in the plans.

[Reed Johnson]

Hey hiddengem who are you and what league/team do you play for? Were you drafted or something?

[Gamingboy]

Hey hiddengem who are you and what league/team do you play for? Were you drafted or something?

He's a player in the Pacific Coast League, AAA. He's actually had a couple of cups of coffee in the Majors.

[Yankeebiscuitfan]

No, just means that I was taken off the roster. Haven't had a great past month and a half and they needed an infielder, and we had a guy here that was doing a fine job so they called him. They needed my roster spot to bring him up.

I'm not fired, but I had the option to decline the assingment and declare Free Agency or Accept the Assignment and go back down. I spoke with the gm for quite a while and he indicated that he really hoped I would stay and they are still high on me and hope I can get back on track and be up in Sept if not sooner. So I decided to stay.
It is good to read that they want to keep you. Of course I have noticed that your batting average is a bit worse than it was.

I am really glad that you will be activated again.

Good luck and keep the faith!

[DownUnderDodger]

No, just means that I was taken off the roster. Haven't had a great past month and a half and the Angles needed an infielder, and we had a guy here that was doing a fine job so they called him. They needed my roster spot to bring him up.

I'm not fired, but I had the option to decline the assingment to Salt Lake and declare Free Agency or Accept the Assignment and return to Salt Lake. I spoke with Stoneman for quite a while and he indicated that he really hoped I would stay and they are still high on me and hope I can get back on track and be up in Sept if not sooner. So I decided to stay and will be activated on Thursday.
It must feel good to know that even when your form is not as good as you would like it, they still want to retain your services. Hopefully the rest period will allow you to rev up those engines and start hitting the cover off the ball :) :dance

[hiddengem]

Were you drafted or something?

Too Funny...Yes sir, I was drafted back in 98.

[hiddengem]

It is good to read that they want to keep you. Of course I have noticed that your batting average is a bit worse than it was.

I am really glad that you will be activated again.

Good luck and keep the faith!

Nobody ever said this line of business was all Glory. Just need to keep moving forward, things always have a way of working out.

[Southlake CubsFan]

well, i wish you the best of luck! :clapping

[Bluesteve32]

i thought it was Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim?

It is until the court case is decided and then the "of Anaheim" will dissappear.

[BasEbaLlKnoItAll]

No, just means that I was taken off the roster. Haven't had a great past month and a half and they needed an infielder, and we had a guy here that was doing a fine job so they called him. They needed my roster spot to bring him up.

I'm not fired, but I had the option to decline the assingment and declare Free Agency or Accept the Assignment and return to Salt Lake. I spoke with the gm for quite a while and he indicated that he really hoped I would stay and they are still high on me and hope I can get back on track and be up in Sept if not sooner. So I decided to stay.

the designation for assignment procedjure was always a little foggy for me, i understand that when a player is designated for assignment the team has 10 days to trade, release, outright to the minors, and the player has to clear waivers. Were you up on the waiver wire, and did you have to wait 10 days before you could play in AAA again?

[hiddengem]

the designation for assignment procedjure was always a little foggy for me, i understand that when a player is designated for assignment the team has 10 days to trade, release, outright to the minors, and the player has to clear waivers. Were you up on the waiver wire, and did you have to wait 10 days before you could play in AAA again?

The way I understand it, is if you are on a guaranteed major league contract (Al Leiter) and a team designates you, they have 10 days to trade you ect. But if you are just a 40 man roster player not on any type of guaranteed contract, you are on the waiver wire for 3 days.

If you have been outrighted before in your career, like I have, then you have the option to decline or accept the assingment. If you don't want to go back to AAA with your current team, then you can be granted your release and play elsewhere.

[BasEbaLlKnoItAll]

did you have to wait 10 days to play in the minors again after being designated for assignment?

Also im assuming u cleared the waiver wire since you arent on a guaranteed major league contract and were just a 40-man roster guy

[hiddengem]

did you have to wait 10 days to play in the minors again after being designated for assignment?

Also im assuming u cleared the waiver wire since you arent on a guaranteed major league contract and were just a 40-man roster guy

3 days, cleared and I accepted the assingment and was activated after the All-Star break.

[BasEbaLlKnoItAll]

3 days, cleared and I accepted the assingment and was activated after the All-Star break.

thanks for clearin it up

[KHenry14]

Hey HG, just curious about something from a player's perspective....

You probably saw over the weekend the Rays/BoSox game that had the strange reversal of a call at first base which made Pinella go crazy (warranted in this case if you ask me). And then in yesterday's Padres/Mets game there was a balk call reversed that cost the Mets a run.

I've not seen calls like these get reversed in games very often, and it seems to be a trend that's growing, and that concerns me a bit. It seems like a coming situation where a manager is going to tell an ump to get help after every close play. Maybe that's an overstatement, but it seems to be happening more often.

From a player's perspective, do you like to see these umps huddle up like that to discuss the calls? Is it a concern? Or do you leave that stuff up to the manager and not worry about it?

Historically, umps make their call, and right or wrong, it's the call. But now they are seeming to hedge a bit, and I'm wondering if that's a Pandora's box opening?

Just curious...

KH14

[Sweet Lou]

Good Question KHenry, I was wondering about that too. This year and last there have been tons of reversed calls. I don't think they should overdo it, although I appreciate the increased effort to get the calls correct. I think the umps do a great job, but too many meetings could become old real quick.
Lou

[hiddengem]

Hey HG, just curious about something from a player's perspective....

You probably saw over the weekend the Rays/BoSox game that had the strange reversal of a call at first base which made Pinella go crazy (warranted in this case if you ask me). And then in yesterday's Padres/Mets game there was a balk call reversed that cost the Mets a run.

I've not seen calls like these get reversed in games very often, and it seems to be a trend that's growing, and that concerns me a bit. It seems like a coming situation where a manager is going to tell an ump to get help after every close play. Maybe that's an overstatement, but it seems to be happening more often.

From a player's perspective, do you like to see these umps huddle up like that to discuss the calls? Is it a concern? Or do you leave that stuff up to the manager and not worry about it?

Historically, umps make their call, and right or wrong, it's the call. But now they are seeming to hedge a bit, and I'm wondering if that's a Pandora's box opening?

Just curious...

KH14

What I like is to see the call made the right way. Now, if that means that the umps need to ask eachother for help, than I'm all for it. I can see instant replay in the future on certain calls.

[schlabotnik]

What I like is to see the call made the right way. Now, if that means that the umps need to ask eachother for help, than I'm all for it. I can see instant replay in the future on certain calls.


By doing so,(utilising instant replay) wouln't we take out of the game the "human factor" ? If everyone wants the perfect call each time, we do have the technology and the means to install it in the game....But like artificial turf, it would take even more of the essence of the game. Sorry but I would prefer the game to keep a certain degree of imperfection. It's imperfections are what embodies what we are.

BTW, merci pour toutes vos explications et dites bonjour à Éric Cyr.



Johnny.

[west coast orange and black]

moises alou recently lamented about giants players not getting together after games and hanging out.

do you think that it is necessary / important / vital for players to be friends and spend time with each other off the field, h-g? does it help towards winning ways on the field?

also, the giants have not had an active kangaroo court this season.
in what ways do kangaroo courts benefit a club? thanx.

[west coast orange and black]

mattingly posted in another thread and i'd like yer opinion, h-g.
......................................

Just one of my pet peeves. It was from a few days ago (Sat 7/23, to be precise), in which starter Wade Miller, who hadn't previously won since May 30th (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/playbyplay/MLB_20050723_BOS@CHW), couldn't find the plate in the 3rd inning (http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/playbyplay/MLB_20050723_BOS@CHW). He'd sandwiched 2 walked batters with a wild pitch, leaving the bases loaded, only 1 out.

Up comes the White Sox' Carl Everett, who promptly fouls off the first pitch. I immediately say to myself, "There goes that wasted opportunity", since I knew things were going down a lousy road. Everett then whiffed on the 1-2 count. Paul Konerko then flied out to RF on the 3-1 count.

Why would someone swing away on a 3-1 count when you either get another chance to hit (or take), or you get a run in? That part I don't understand.

The pitches looked all either high at the shoulders, low enough for Jack Nicklaus to hit it, or wide enough that you'd need Kareem Abdul-Jabbar to hit that pitch. Still, they looked enticing, since they weren't ridiculously outside. However, had the hitters been more patient, I think they could've gotten an RBI walk, if not 2. Boston won the game 3-0.

If it were you, the pitcher walked 1 or 2 batters, perhaps even hit a batter, would you be aggressive and hope to score a 2-run single or double? Or would you just be patient, effectively giving the pitcher more rope so as to further lose his confidence?

Thanks.

[DownUnderDodger]

By doing so,(utilising instant replay) wouln't we take out of the game the "human factor" ? If everyone wants the perfect call each time, we do have the technology and the means to install it in the game....But like artificial turf, it would take even more of the essence of the game. Sorry but I would prefer the game to keep a certain degree of imperfection. It's imperfections are what embodies what we are.

I agree wholeheartedly, that the imperfections embodie what we are, but sadly, in this day and age of TV and instant replay, every minute error is replayed over and over and the umps/referees in sport are on a hiding to nothing, so the time will come that even baseball will have decisions made on video footage rather than on 'spur of the moment action', as seen by the ump - as happens in other sports which have "third umpires" or "video referees" to make decisions. It is getting to the stage in OZ in Rugby League, that referees rely on "video referees" to make more than 50% of the try (touchdown) decisions, for fear they will make the wrong decision.