Houston

[ElHalo]

Quick question for you... everybody knows that a major road in New York's Manhattan, Houston Street (from which, for example, the area of SoHo gets its name... SOuth of HOuston), is pronounced very differently from the common pronunciation of the name of the city of Houston. Lately, hearing some of my fellow New Yorkers talk about the prospects of Roger Clemens returning to the AL East, I've heard a lot of people pronounce the Houston in the Houston Astros the same way... apparently, there's a push in New York to stop saying it the Texas way altogether.

What I want to know is, how do people from other places pronounce the word Houston? Is the New York pronunciation strictly a New York thing? Or is the Texas pronunciation losing ground elsewhere as well?

(Just so everyone's clear on what I'm talking about... I guess the regular pronunciation of Houston makes the first syllable of the word rhyme with "you"... H-yous-ton. The New York pronunciation rhymes with "how," so it becomes House-ton Street.)

[E.Banks#14]

My pronunciation: Hue-stun (Hue as in the word hue; a shade or tint of a color)

[runningshoes]

We pronounce it Hue-stun in Canada, which is pretty much the way I hear it pronounced in new casts.

[ElHalo]

We pronounce it Hue-stun in Canada, which is pretty much the way I hear it pronounced in new casts.

That is the common pronunciation; I've never heard it pronounced House-ton anywhere but in New York. Just wondering if anybody else had.

[Elvis]

I pronounce the "ork" in New York like the "ork" in the word WORK. Am I weird?

[iPod]

...Goin' back... to House-ton, House-ton, House-ton...

[runningshoes]

That is the common pronunciation; I've never heard it pronounced House-ton anywhere but in New York. Just wondering if anybody else had.

I've heard it in movies.

[burger eater]

I pronounce it tow-may-tow

[runningshoes]

I've even heard it pronounced who-stun.

[wamby]

In both Cleveland and west Alabama I've only heard it pronouced as Hue-stun.

I've only heard Who-stun when NASA was involved.

[Jermz]

His name is pronounced HUSTON STREET :)

[Elvis]

"House-ton, we have a problem"

[ElHalo]

Either way, if you're ever in New York, and ask someone on the street how to get to "Hue-ston Street," you'll definitely get laughed at, and possibly mugged (tourists are seen as very easy marks, since a lot of what you need to know to live in New York is very specific street knowledge that takes at least a year of constant living to pick up... another dead giveaway is looking up, real NY'ers might glance up at a new billboard atop a building, but tourists look up CONSTANTLY in amaze at all the pretty skyscrapers).

So always remember; when in New York, it's "HOUSE-ton" street, with the emphasis on the first syllable.

[runningshoes]

Next time I'm in New York looking Huston street I'll keep that in mind. :D

[burger eater]

if you're ever in New York, and ask someone on the street how to get to "Hue-ston Street," you'll definitely get laughed at, and possibly mugged...
Very true... I was in New Yourk a couple years ago looking for Houston St.
I decided to ask a woman with 2 kids (one was a baby that she was carrying) where Houston St. was...
She laughed at me, then threw her baby on the ground, pulled out a semi-automatic uzi and mugged me. Happens all the time in New Yorke.

[Mattingly]

Either way, if you're ever in New York, and ask someone on the street how to get to "Hue-ston Street," you'll definitely get laughed at, and possibly mugged (tourists are seen as very easy marks, since a lot of what you need to know to live in New York is very specific street knowledge that takes at least a year of constant living to pick up... another dead giveaway is looking up, real NY'ers might glance up at a new billboard atop a building, but tourists look up CONSTANTLY in amaze at all the pretty skyscrapers).

So always remember; when in New York, it's "HOUSE-ton" street, with the emphasis on the first syllable.
There's also the NoHo area (North of Houston St). I think there's a Puck Bldg at Broadway just north of Houston St, and I remember there having been a Stereo Warehouse right next to it.

Anyway, I've always pronounced it "Hyoo-ston St", and don't remember having been mugged or "taken for any rides" by cab drivers from the airport. If you know where Union Square is, MSG, the Chrysler Bldg, which direction Lady Liberty (Statue of Liberty) faces (it faces Brooklyn with its back to New Jersey), you should be OK. Also, the accent is often a dead giveaway that someone's a tourist.

As to NYers, tourists often talk about "Ground Zero", but those who've been around know that Phillipe Petit scaled the former World Trade Center on a high-wire rope on a windy day, tied between the rooves of the two structures 1/4 mile in the sky. I forgot the name of the mountain climber who'd scaled it using the window-washer things on the outside. Both feats occurred in the 1970s.

Now then, can we at least have a teensy bit of baseball info here, at least what the "Hyooston Astros" will do this upcoming season, so as to keep it relevant? I'd normally close topics such as this, but it is at least a baseball city you're referring to.

Thanks.

[Mattingly]

"House-ton, we have a problem"
Yeah, no Roger Clemens. :D :dance

[runningshoes]

No problem Matt, but I am surprised you haven't shut down this thread. God for you, you're making progress. :D

[Mattingly]

No problem Matt, but I am surprised you haven't shut down this thread. God for you, you're making progress. :D
Now let's see if anyone here at least decides to discuss a *TEENSY BIT* of baseball here. I'm the only one who's mentioned anyone in baseball (The Rocket, of all people (re Hyoo-ston)), and I'm the only one who's mentioned that this is at least a baseball city.

Now let's see if someone else can add some kind of baseball thing. At least make it look half-decent.

As to progress ... let's see. I should just turn around and see if there's any baseball content here when I return. If not, hmmmmmmmmm. :D

-Evil Yankee fan

[Astro]

Hue-stun is how it is pronounced.... people from New York and New England need to learn how to talk, without those annoying accents...

Another reason I hate the Yankees and a great majority of their obnoxious fans (there ya go Mattingly, got some baseball in ;) )

[Mattingly]

Hue-stun is how it is pronounced.... people from New York and New England need to learn how to talk, without those annoying accents...

Another reason I hate the Yankees and a great majority of their obnoxious fans (there ya go Mattingly, got some baseball in ;) )
OK, now that we've finally got some *BASEBALL* into it, let's see if we can get some intelligence into it. :D :crazy:

BTW, I've also pronounced it "Hyoo-ston" for awhile. Can't be that strange, now can I?

LET'S GO CARDS! :p (there's some more baseball for ya!)

[PopTop]

[Hyoost'n] is the correct pronunciation according to my trusty old Webster's. If you're from way East Texas, it will come out as three syllables instead of two :) You will hear [who-stun] from Brits as well. I asked my wife and maw-in-law who are originally from Long Island how they say it in NYC, but as usual I tuned them out as soon as they started talking so I really have no clue about Houston in the Big Apple. As soon as someone from the NE can tell me why it's pronounced [grin-itch] in Connecticut, I'll worry about why we talk funny down here in the Lone Star State ;)

Oh yeah, baseball, uh, Craig Biggio is from Smithville, New York, maybe he knows all the little differences in the word 'Houston.'

[Brian McKenna]

i remember when my alma mater Towson University made the March Madness run - everyone had trouble pronouncing it

Tow (as in towel)-son

[E.Banks#14]

All I think of when I see this thread is the commercial with the cab driver somewhere in Asia listening to a country song and singing, "Houston, Houston..."; then a bus rides by with a huge picture of Yao Ming on the side.

What's this have to do with baseball? Well, Yao Ming was in a commercial with Yogi Berra a few years ago --- "Yo! - YAO!" "Yo! - YO-GI!"

[ElHalo]

Oh yeah, baseball, uh, Craig Biggio is from Smithville, New York, maybe he knows all the little differences in the word 'Houston.'

Actually, Biggio is from Smithtown, not Smithville, which is one town over from where I'm living currently. And "Greenwich" is not reall "grin-itch," but rather "gren-itch," with the first syllable rhyming with "when."

It is odd that Biggio played in Houston... I would have expected a Long Islander to have wanted to stay in the country...

[Astro]

Actually, Biggio is from Smithtown, not Smithville, which is one town over from where I'm living currently. And "Greenwich" is not reall "grin-itch," but rather "gren-itch," with the first syllable rhyming with "when."

It is odd that Biggio played in Houston... I would have expected a Long Islander to have wanted to stay in the country...
Grin-itch does rhyme with when.... doesnt it? lol

Grin... When (sounds like win)... rhymes...

Baseball related in the Yankees havent won a pennant since way back in 2003

[Mattingly]

Actually, Biggio is from Smithtown, not Smithville, which is one town over from where I'm living currently. And "Greenwich" is not reall "grin-itch," but rather "gren-itch," with the first syllable rhyming with "when."

It is odd that Biggio played in Houston... I would have expected a Long Islander to have wanted to stay in the country...
So now Hyoo-ston is in another country? Mexico? Sudan? :D

Of all the Long Islanders who went away, I'd say that Yaz was the one I'd have most wanted as a Yankee.

[Mattingly]

Grin-itch does rhyme with when.... doesnt it? lol

Grin... When (sounds like win)... rhymes...

Baseball related in the Yankees havent won a pennant since way back in 2003
Oh boy, the rainbow 'Stros fans getting all hyped. Man, once you give some from HYOO-STON a taste of success, they don't know what to do with themselves. :D

Anyway, why didn't Pujols hit another one out? Would've been nice seeing the Cards in there. Of course, the Yanks would've been even better.

Oh, did I tell you that the ChiSox celebrated Game 4 in HYOO-STON's infield? How's that for baseball? :p

[tadlock11]

The city of Houston in named after Sam Houston and takes on the pronunciation that was used in his name. Houston St. is named after someone else, that pronunciated his name that way (House-ton). Of all things, I learned that while in NYC last year as a tourist!
Now if the Astros could ever put a decent hitting team together with the talented pitching staff we seem to always have, I believe we'd win WS one of these days.
I personally do not believe the "Rocket" will play anywhere but Houston if he does play. Keep in mind the Astros drafted his son this past year. Perhaps come back and play on the same team as Koby if they call him up in Sept. Another option would be to come back as a coach. If I'm not mistaken, Nolan Ryan is going to be joining the Astros organization in some aspect this year as well.

[tadlock11]

Oh, did I tell you that the ChiSox celebrated Game 4 in HYOO-STON's infield? How's that for baseball? :p
Didn't have to - I was there and not too happy about it. However, I won't sit here and talk about someone getting a taste of success and not knowing what to do with it. If it weren't for Texas baseball players, your Yankees would sure have a LOT fewer pennants.

This past year when in NY, my wife and I went to a Yankee game and enjoyed it, folks were a lot more polite than expected - then again I'm not one to act like an arrogant S.O.B!

It is true that our hometown team (Astros) have been very lacking in the championship department, even with some teams that they have fielded were probably amongst the best in baseball at the time, just that :grouchy happens. You ask many Astro fans that have knowledge of baseball and nearly 100% would have told you back in May it would be a cold day in :grouchy before the 'Stros make it to the WS. They had some things go their way but give credit where credit is due.

[ElHalo]

Grin-itch does rhyme with when.... doesnt it? lol

Grin... When (sounds like win)... rhymes...

Um... if "when" and "win" rhyme where you come from, um, well, then, I guess. I can honestly say that I've never heard anyone rhyme those two words before.




Baseball related in the Yankees havent won a pennant since way back in 2003

As long as the Red Sox don't win any more, that's fine with me.

[RuthMayBond]

Either way, if you're ever in New York, and ask someone on the street how to get to "Hue-ston Street," you'll definitely get laughed at, and possibly mugged (tourists are seen as very easy marks, since a lot of what you need to know to live in New York is very specific street knowledge that takes at least a year of constant living to pick up... another dead giveaway is looking up, real NY'ers might glance up at a new billboard atop a building, but tourists look up CONSTANTLY in amaze at all the pretty skyscrapers).Let's hear it for the rotten apple

[ElHalo]

Let's hear it for the rotten apple

Not sure why New York gets such a bad reputation. The most dangerous city I've ever been in resides out there with you in the midwest. No matter what city you go to, muggings and street crime are a part of the landscape; you just have to know how to avoid them.

And anyway... safe = boring, and who wasn't to be bored?

On the baseball related side... everyone talks about how the area around Yankee Stadium is dangerous. It's not. At all. By any stretch of the imagination. I used to spend LOADS of time there, since the Bronx County Supreme Court is two blocks away. It's actually a very nice area. I mean, it's not all gentrified for the tourists the way, say, Times Square has become, but it's a perfectly safe place to take your kids and go catch a ballgame, without wondering whether anybody is going to get stabbed. Maybe it's just gotten better in recent years, but its reputation as a crime box is entirely undeserved.

[RuthMayBond]

Not sure why New York gets such a bad reputation. The most dangerous city I've ever been in resides out there with you in the midwest. No matter what city you go to, muggings and street crime are a part of the landscape; you just have to know how to avoid them.Maybe you don't know "how to avoid them" there.

<And anyway... safe = boring, and who wasn't to be bored?>

So Chicago? muggings are "most dangerous", but NY ones are cute and "boring"?

[runningshoes]

Houston St. is named after someone else, that pronunciated his name that way (House-ton). Of all things, I learned that while in NYC last year as a tourist!

And in many examples, of which i'm not prepared to give you right now, people get lazy and drop letters from words. The spelling may well have originated as Houseston.

I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's a possibility.

[Mattingly]

Well, I've found something of use here (for once). I'd forgotten that their former mayor, Lee Brown (1997), was former NYC Mayor David Dinkins' (1989-93) police chief (he's mentioned under "20th Century").

Here it goes:

Houston, Texas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston#History)

Houston is the largest city in the state of Texas and the fourth-largest in the United States. The city is also large in geographic area; it covers more than 600 square miles and is the county seat of Harris County—the third most populous in the country. Houston is one of 11 U.S. global cities as it is ranked "Gamma World City" by the Globalization and World Cities Study Group & Network.

As of the 2000 U.S. Census, Houston had a total population of 1.9 million (though a July 1, 2004 U.S. Census estimate placed the city's population at more than 2 million). The city is the heart of the Houston-Sugar Land-Baytown metropolitan area, which is the the largest cultural and economic center of the Gulf Coast region and is the seventh-largest metropolitan area in the U.S. with a population of 5.2 million in ten counties.

Houston is world renowned for its energy (particularly oil) and aeronautics industries and for its ship channel. The Port of Houston is the sixth-largest port in the world. It is the busiest port in the United States in foreign tonnage and second in overall tonnage. Second only to New York City in Fortune 500 headquarters, Houston is the seat of the internationally-renowned Texas Medical Center, which contains the world's largest concentration of research and healthcare institutions.

Known for the vibrancy of its visual and performing arts, Houston's Theater District is ranked second in the country in the number of theatre seats in a concentrated downtown area per capita and has world-class visual and performing arts organizations. The city is also close to sunny beaches as well as one of the United States' largest concentrations of pleasure boats and tourist attractions.

Officially, Houston is nicknamed the "Space City" as it is home to NASA's Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center, where Mission Control Center is located (because of this, "Houston" was the first word spoken on the moon).

Houston's founding

In the mid-1800s, two brothers who were New York real estate promoters, John Kirby Allen and Augustus Chapman Allen, sought a location where they could begin building "a great center of government and commerce." In August 1836, they purchased 6,642 acres (27 km&#178;) of land from T. F. L. Parrot, John Austin's widow, for $9,428. The Allen brothers named their town after Sam Houston and eventually persuaded the Texas Legislature to designate the site as the temporary capital of the new Republic of Texas.
On the baseball end, here's another Wikipedia link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Clemens) on another Rocket that's been re-launched somewhere in Houston, TX.

[Jake83]

There's also the NoHo area (North of Houston St). I think there's a Puck Bldg at Broadway just north of Houston St, and I remember there having been a Stereo Warehouse right next to it.

Thanks.

I know Soho is a registered trademark and cannot be used elsewhere but I do not believe Noho is in Manhattan because Here in LA they have been trying to push North Hollywood off as Noho the LA version of Soho.

To get back on subject Texans have to screw up the pronicuation of most words:D

[Jake83]

In LA there is a suburb called La Canada which is a Spanish name and with an accent on the n which makes it sound nothing like the country pronicuation but people not from Southern California or non-Spanish speakers usually can not tell the difference.

[ElHalo]

So Chicago? muggings are "most dangerous", but NY ones are cute and "boring"?

Not Chicago, Chicago's fine. I lived in Detroit for six years.

In Detroit at the time, the big things were those Tigers of Cecil Fielder, Rob Deer, Pete Incaviglia, and Mickey Tettleton (I mean, custom designed to drive me nuts); the Pistons of Isiah Thomas and Joe Dumars; and arson.

[BristolBoy]

You will hear [who-stun] from Brits as well.'Uh.... not all of them you won't. Hyoo-stun, buy as two syllables, if you catch my drift. Like the name Hugh, for example.

[runningshoes]

Uh.... not all of them you won't. Hyoo-stun, buy as two syllables, if you catch my drift. Like the name Hugh, for example.

My friend from Plymouth is staying here in Manila with us. I'll ask him to say Houston when he gets home from his hot date. :D

I'll keep you posted.

[Captain Cold Nose]

There is a small town in Ohio (about an hour northwest of Dayton) that pronounces it like they do in New York.
Lima is pronounced like the bean, not the Peruvian city.
Versailes is not pronounced like the important treaty city, but Ver-Sales.
Russia is Rooshy.
Cincinnati is Ken-tuk-ee
Indiana is only a rumor.

[Brooklyn]

The city of Houston in named after Sam Houston and takes on the pronunciation that was used in his name. Houston St. is named after someone else, that pronunciated his name that way (House-ton). Of all things, I learned that while in NYC last year as a tourist!

According to this site (http://www.nyupress.org/product_info.php?products_id=2233), the street in NY is named after a former Georgia politician, William Houstoun.

Since Houston, TX and Houston St., NY, were both named after different people who pronounce it differently, they are both correct.

Bing a NYer, whenever I'm in Texas I pronounce it How-stun. It seems to get a rise out of the locals.

[trosmok]

Indiana is only a rumor.

Hoosiers are among the woild's woist at pronunskiation.:rolleyes:
Houston is Who-stun
Nuclear is nookular
Wash is warsh
Rinse is wrench
My town is Indenapples
Boosh is the President, or a shrubbery
Galveston is pronounced with the accent on the "vest"
Carmel's first syllable is accented like the candy
Russiaville is Rooshavull
Libary is where books are
Chimbley is where smoke goes
A raffle is for huntin' squirrels

But back to baseball, is there a team on Lawn Giland, NY?:laugh

[VTSoxFan]

Back a few years ago a rich man moved up to Vermont from Massachusetts and decided to run for Senate because he knew what Vermonters needed more than the Vermonters ourselves did. He was outed as a carpetbagger when asked to pronounce the name of the little town just north of our state capital, Montpelier (pronounced mon' PEEL yer -- most VTers don't pronounce the 'T") -- the little town of Calais. He said, of course, "kah-LAY", and was soundly laughed at. In VT, Calais rhymes with "palace".

Incidentally -- HYOOstun.

On a baseball note, the Vermont Green Mountaineers (pronounced Maon' neers) play in the summer in Mon' peelyer. I plan to go up and see them this coming summer.

[trosmok]

Houston owner Drayton McLane visited NYC and went looking for a condo to buy on the upper west side of Manhattan. The real estate agent showed him a three bedroom, two bath, 1400 s.f. condo in a beautiful building with a magnificent view of Central Park. Astros owner asked the price, and the agent replied $2.2million. McLane said "Is this all there is? Hell, I got bathrooms back home in Texas that are bigger than this whole place!" To which the agent replied, "You probably need them.";)

[tadlock11]

According to this site (http://www.nyupress.org/product_info.php?products_id=2233), the street in NY is named after a former Georgia politician, William Houstoun.

Since Houston, TX and Houston St., NY, were both named after different people who pronounce it differently, they are both correct.

Bing a NYer, whenever I'm in Texas I pronounce it How-stun. It seems to get a rise out of the locals.
Thanks, I think that pretty much sums up this thread.

[The Big C]

Accents exist solely to be made fun of. Texas, Britain, New York, Boston, all you people talk all wrong. And none of you seem to realize it...

;)

[BristolBoy]

Accents exist solely to be made fun of. Texas, Britain, New York, Boston, all you people talk all wrong. And none of you seem to realize it...

;)But some of us spell better than others... colour and humour, for example. :p

Thing is though, I've gotten so used to spelling things in 'Ameriglish' I actually had to think where to put the extra u's!

[Mattingly]

I know Soho is a registered trademark and cannot be used elsewhere but I do not believe Noho is in Manhattan because Here in LA they have been trying to push North Hollywood off as Noho the LA version of Soho.

To get back on subject Texans have to screw up the pronicuation of most words:D
How could "SoHo" be copyrighted? It's also been adopted by consultants using small business machines. With NYers, it's "South of Houston" (aka, "HYOO-sten"). With the people buying small business copiers, billing software and the like, it's "Small Office/Home Office", and is also spelled "SoHo".

The other two popular street-based acronyms in Manhattan would be NoHo, which as mentioned earlier, is North of HYOO-sten, and "TriBeCa". This is a "Triangular" area of lower Manhattan just north of City Hall, which itself is adjacent to the Manhattan side of the famous Brooklyn Bridge.

Anyway, "Bethune" and "Canal" Streets are two others, and Canal Street leads to the Manhattan Bridge is is the epicenter of Manhattan's "Chinatown". Also, actor Robert DeNiro has some film studio and a restaurant there, Nobu, which is a Japanese sushi restaurant.

I'm too pooped to figure anything baseball-related about this (already mentioned Clemens), but are there any minor league or college teams which use acronyms in their names? I'd be interested in hearing of this.

[Mattingly]

Accents exist solely to be made fun of. Texas, Britain, New York, Boston, all you people talk all wrong. And none of you seem to realize it...

;)
Interestingly, if you live amongst people from the same area, there's no such thing as an accent. I thought an accent only existed if someone from elsewhere visited.

You say "coffee", I say "caw-fee", etc.

Now then, what the heck do people say at a ballpark when they order food and such? If someone hits a 450 footer, is that "pahking it over the Monstah", as the Beantowners would say? Dinger to one may be longball to another. Wouldn't mind hearing how folks enunciate stuff during an ordinary ballgame. Then again, some games are far more than ordinary, but that's another story. :D

[Jake83]

Wash is warsh



That is the DC pronicuation of Wash like Warshington DC

[The Big C]

Thats also how old lady Bill Plaschke says it... I hate that guy, and the LA all over your sig brought him to my mind.

[Jake83]

Thats also how old lady Bill Plaschke says it... I hate that guy, and the LA all over your sig brought him to my mind.


Plaschke is a great writer because he brings emotions to people like TJ Simers

[The Big C]

I don't read his columns or anything, but I watch Around the Horn alot, and he is a tremendous wind bag.

[trosmok]

That is the DC pronicuation of Wash like Warshington DC

Yeah, folks around here add extra "R"s at every opportunity, like gararge, and my favorite: "He wus squart down like one uh them ayrabs whut wurship arllahr."

[mojorisin71]

Plaschke is a great writer because he brings emotions to people like TJ Simers
Both of them are the reason I quit reading the LA Times for a while.

[Bob Hannah]

That is the DC pronicuation of Wash like Warshington DC
If you mean that those of us from D.C. and the surrounding area pronicuate the city's name with an "r" before the "sh", that's dead wrong. It's pronicuated as it's spelled in these parts. ;)

[Mattingly]

If you mean that those of us from D.C. and the surrounding area pronicuate the city's name with ar "r" before the "sh", that's dead wrong. It's pronicuated as it's spelled in these parts. ;)
Yeah, spelling advice from a man who spells his own name backwards. :crazy :p

[Bob Hannah]

Yeah, spelling advice from a man who spells his own name backwards. :crazy :p
Not taking any chances with my yet unknown intellectual capacities at birth, Mom and Dad decided to play it safe...

[Mattingly]

Not taking any chances with my yet unknown intellectual capacities at birth, Mom and Dad decided to play it safe...
Mom and Dad done good!

Now then, how do they pronounce (or mispronounce) the Washington Nationals? Or for that matter, the DC Senators?

[Jake83]

If you mean that those of us from D.C. and the surrounding area pronicuate the city's name with an "r" before the "sh", that's dead wrong. It's pronicuated as it's spelled in these parts. ;)


So you guys do not go "warsh" the clothes. You may deny it but the majority of the Eastern Seaboard either can not pronouce an r or loves to place r's in certain words

[Bob Hannah]

Mom and Dad done good!

Now then, how do they pronounce (or mispronounce) the Washington Nationals? Or for that matter, the DC Senators?
The use of the correct phonetics is employed, begining on the left and proceeding through the right.


So you guys do not go "warsh" the clothes. You may deny it but the majority of the Eastern Seaboard either can not pronouce an r or loves to place r's in certain words
I can't speak for the rest of the Eastern Seaboard. My experience is, however, that you are again wrong. trosmok 'fessed up the Hoosiers in his parts speak that way, but last I checked Indy isn't considered Eastern Seaboard.

[RuthMayBond]

It's pronicuated
Easy for YOU to spell

[Bob Hannah]

Easy for YOU to spell
Couldn't have done it without help from the Left Coaster.

Funny...I harve this compelling urge to pronicuate it as "pro-nic-u-Rate".

[Captain Cold Nose]

The use of the correct phonetics is employed, begining on the left and proceeding through the right.


I can't speak for the rest of the Eastern Seaboard. My experience is, however, that you are again wrong. trosmok 'fessed up the Hoosiers in his parts speak that way, but last I checked Indy isn't considered Eastern Seaboard.
And not just the Hoosier state, but the Buckeye State as well. And I had a full professor in English in Michigan also pronounce the r in Washington.
There's a laundromat in New Richmond, Ohio (about 20 miles or so east on Cincinnati right on the Ohio River) called Worsher House or something like that. I have a picture of it.

[trosmok]

And not just the Hoosier state, but the Buckeye State as well.
There's a laundromat in New Richmond, Ohio (about 20 miles or so east on Cincinnati right on the Ohio River) called Worsher House

LOL! How often have you heard otherwise educated souls speak of becoming orientated? Means east, don't it?

It's a Commonist plot, I tell ya!

Garshk, CCN, I think I've been through New Richmond, on my way to Utopia, Ohio. From there, my cousin took me to Tranquility, via Seaman, OH. Heard they have trouble keeping a sign at the edge of town there, (off highway 32.)

[The Big C]

And not just the Hoosier state, but the Buckeye State as well. And I had a full professor in English in Michigan also pronounce the r in Washington.
There's a laundromat in New Richmond, Ohio (about 20 miles or so east on Cincinnati right on the Ohio River) called Worsher House or something like that. I have a picture of it.
That's how my Grandfather says it aswell, but he was born in Wisconsin. Lives here now though, and I think he lived in Northern Michigan for most of his childhood. I'm not sure why anybody says it that way, might just be an old people thing.

[Bob Hannah]

...might just be an old people thing.
Looks to me like its taking the form of a Midwest/North Central thing.;)

[wamby]

And not just the Hoosier state, but the Buckeye State as well. And I had a full professor in English in Michigan also pronounce the r in Washington.
There's a laundromat in New Richmond, Ohio (about 20 miles or so east on Cincinnati right on the Ohio River) called Worsher House or something like that. I have a picture of it.

Southern Ohio maybe but not in the NE section that I came from. I did have a roommate in college from West Virginia who sometimes added /r/'s though.

[Captain Cold Nose]

Southern Ohio maybe but not in the NE section that I came from. I did have a roommate in college from West Virginia who sometimes added /r/'s though.
The one thing about Ohio is it seems each portion of the state has a different dialect than the next one. The New England-settled Northeast is very different from the Appalachian-settled South while the rugged frontier of the Black Swamp Northwest is enitrely different from both.

[trosmok]

What cruel joker put an "S" in lisp?

Winsconson

Illinoise

[Jake83]

A little off topic But when The University of Illinois hired Ron Zook as their football coach the first statement from him was "I want to thank the University of Illinoise"

[Captain Cold Nose]

A little off topic But when The University of Illinois hired Ron Zook as their football coach the first statement from him was "I want to thank the University of Illinoise"
I remember that. My father, born and raised in Detroit, also still pronounces it like that despite my correcting him. He also pronounced Barry Sanders's last name like it was the beloved Detroit chocolate makers (or the new Redskins Offensive Coordinator.).

[VTSoxFan]

Sometimes I, and the rest of my family, slip into a Vermontian patois, pronouncing the syllable /i/ as /oi/ as in "Oi win' 'baout foive moils paaast the caonty loine..." with the apostrophe in "win'" ("went") being almost a glottal stop. In my house, when we're not in the kitchen-end of the house, we're "daown th' haahl". If we're hard at work, we're "right out straight" and if we're downstairs we're "down cellar."

Add to the mix some words my Dad picked up from his relatives from Massachusetts a long time ago. Small metal bits of money are "cohens" and the brick thing in front of the fireplace is the "haath", and the long woolly thing you sling around your neck in the winter is a "scaff". :D

BTW, Mom says "gararge" and I say "gerodge" or "g'rodge".

By the Great Horn Spoon. What's this got to do with baseball? :) :rolleyes: :p

[Nomtoc]

How-stun street in NYC Hue-ston in Texas!

[Bluesteve32]

We in California just love how non-native try to pornounce some of out place and street names.

La Jolla = La Hoya
San Jose = San Ho - say
Los Angeles = Los An-je-lis not los an-gi-lis (Mayor Yorty did that one) or log an -je -lees
Figueroa = Fig-u-ro-a many from other parts never get that one right unless they rememer former Angel and Yank Eddie Figueroa.
San Pedro = shuld be San Pay-dro but many call it san pee-dro

and unlike Texas
San Jacinto = san ha-sin-to not san ja- sin-to and we do ahve a city near Riverside with that name.

Since Houston, Texas was named for Sam Houston, it should be pronounced the way he said his name. I am sure none of us here on this forum were around to hear old Sam say his name, it may be safe to assume that the way the Texans say the name of their city is being close to the way Sam said his name.

Also, if the person that is named for William Houstoun and the spelling seems to have been altered, so the pronounciation of this name in New York would be accurate since it is likely Mr Houstoun most likely said his name differently that Sam, had. Altering the spelling of names is quite common, and among immigrants very common.

[mojorisin71]

We in California just love how non-native try to pornounce some of out place and street names.

La Jolla = La Hoya
San Jose = San Ho - say
Los Angeles = Los An-je-lis not los an-gi-lis (Mayor Yorty did that one) or log an -je -lees
Figueroa = Fig-u-ro-a many from other parts never get that one right unless they rememer former Angel and Yank Eddie Figueroa.
San Pedro = shuld be San Pay-dro but many call it san pee-dro

and unlike Texas
San Jacinto = san ha-sin-to not san ja- sin-to and we do ahve a city near Riverside with that name.

Since Houston, Texas was named for Sam Houston, it should be pronounced the way he said his name. I am sure none of us here on this forum were around to hear old Sam say his name, it may be safe to assume that the way the Texans say the name of their city is being close to the way Sam said his name.

Also, if the person that is named for William Houstoun and the spelling seems to have been altered, so the pronounciation of this name in New York would be accurate since it is likely Mr Houstoun most likely said his name differently that Sam, had. Altering the spelling of names is quite common, and among immigrants very common.
There are a lot of people here in SoCal (natives included) who say "Loss Angeles," but when they talk about the racetrack in Orange County, they say "Lohs Alamitos."

I get a kick when people mispronounce "El Segundo" as well (el see-gun-do vs el se-goon-do).

My additional $0.02