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wilkerson_rulz-06
01-19-2006, 10:27 AM
My attempt to create a team rating system:

STANDINGS: W L G.B WPCT RS RA
New York Yankees 95 67 / .586 886 789
Boston Red Sox 95 67 / .586 910 805
Toronto Blue Jays 80 82 15 .494 775 705
Baltimore Orioles 74 88 21 .457 729 800
Tampa Bay D-Rays 67 95 28 .414 750 936

Here’s the deal, to determine a team’s TEAM FACTOR this is the formula:

(W+L)+(RS+RA)-G.B /4
(95+67)+(886+789)-0 /4
(162)+(1675)=1837
1837/4=459.25

NYY team factor: .459
BOS team factor: .469
TOR: team factor: .366
BAL team factor: .377
TAM team factor: .455

Now let me explain:
A team factor determines how hard a team was to beat based on runs scored and runs against. The higher the harder they are to beat.
The Yankees team factor was .010 points lower than Boston’s. This is a result of a slow start and less runs scored.
Now what probably surprises you is that Tampa Bay has a higher team factor than the Baltimore or Toronto. Again, the reason is obvious; Tampa Bay had the second best record in the MLB during the 2nd half of the season, giving them a slight advantage over the slumping Jays and Orioles.
The Baltimore Orioles team factor was low, the reason is they had the least runs scored in the AL EAST despite their slow start, they were one of the easier teams to beat, so were the Jays.

Explanation of team factor results:

If a team has a team factor above .450 he is pretty hard to beat, between .400 and .450 they are average but still not very easy.
If a team has a team factor under .400, the team is generally easy to beat.

The elite teams only have a team factor higher than .490.

RuthMayBond
01-19-2006, 10:52 AM
My attempt to create a team rating system:

STANDINGS: W L G.B WPCT RS RA
New York Yankees 95 67 / .586 886 789
Boston Red Sox 95 67 / .586 910 805
Toronto Blue Jays 80 82 15 .494 775 705
Baltimore Orioles 74 88 21 .457 729 800
Tampa Bay D-Rays 67 95 28 .414 750 936

Here’s the deal, to determine a team’s TEAM FACTOR this is the formula:

(W+L)+(RS+RA)-G.B /2
(95+67)+(886+789)-0 /2
(162)+(1675)=1837
1837/4=459.25

NYY team factor: .459
BOS team factor: .469
TOR: team factor: .366
BAL team factor: .377
TAM team factor: .455Is it possible you have Tampa a little high?

digglahhh
01-19-2006, 11:37 AM
A team factor determines how hard a team was to beat

I think the team's record is pretty reflective of how hard it was to beat them




based on runs scored and runs against.

and Pythagorean W/L takes care of that.

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-19-2006, 01:39 PM
I think the team's record is pretty reflective of how hard it was to beat them
and Pythagorean W/L takes care of that.

It's a stat based on runs scored and runs against.

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Is it possible you have Tampa a little high?

Nope, Tampa had the 2nd best recoed in the majors last season (2nd half) do the math yourself, use the formula.

RuthMayBond
01-19-2006, 01:43 PM
Nope, Tampa had the 2nd best recoed in the majors last season (2nd half) do the math yourself, use the formula.Do we ignore the first half? You're telling me Tampa was almost as tough as the Yanks?

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-19-2006, 02:49 PM
Do we ignore the first half? You're telling me Tampa was almost as tough as the Yanks?

Because of their incredible 2nd half, yes.
Streaks are very important.

538280
01-19-2006, 04:37 PM
Because of their incredible 2nd half, yes.
Streaks are very important.

That incredible second half when they went 40-42?

Tampa Bay
First Half: 27-55
Second Half: 40-42

New York Yankees
First Half: 43-39
Second Half: 52-28

Tampa's "incredible" second half was actually worse than the Yank's subpar first half.

iPod
01-19-2006, 04:47 PM
My attempt to create a team rating system:

STANDINGS: W L G.B WPCT RS RA
New York Yankees 95 67 / .586 886 789
Boston Red Sox 95 67 / .586 910 805
Toronto Blue Jays 80 82 15 .494 775 705
Baltimore Orioles 74 88 21 .457 729 800
Tampa Bay D-Rays 67 95 28 .414 750 936

Here’s the deal, to determine a team’s TEAM FACTOR this is the formula:

(W+L)+(RS+RA)-G.B /2
(95+67)+(886+789)-0 /2
(162)+(1675)=1837
1837/4=459.25

NYY team factor: .459
BOS team factor: .469
TOR: team factor: .366
BAL team factor: .377
TAM team factor: .455

Now let me explain:
A team factor determines how hard a team was to beat based on runs scored and runs against. The higher the harder they are to beat.
The Yankees team factor was .010 points lower than Boston’s. This is a result of a slow start and less runs scored.
Now what probably surprises you is that Tampa Bay has a higher team factor than the Baltimore or Toronto. Again, the reason is obvious; Tampa Bay had the second best record in the MLB during the 2nd half of the season, giving them a slight advantage over the slumping Jays and Orioles.
The Baltimore Orioles team factor was low, the reason is they had the least runs scored in the AL EAST despite their slow start, they were one of the easier teams to beat, so were the Jays.

Explanation of team factor results:

If a team has a team factor above .450 he is pretty hard to beat, between .400 and .450 they are average but still not very easy.
If a team has a team factor under .400, the team is generally easy to beat.

The elite teams only have a team factor higher than .490.

That formula makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. Losses and runs allowed are counted as positive; if a team allows more runs, it's "team factor" goes up. Allowing more runs makes you easier to beat, not harder. Also, "W + L" is going to be 162 for every team... every team played 162 games, each of which was either a win or a loss. Unless there was a game rained out, which by this formula makes them easier to beat. At the end, you divide the total by 4, for... apparently no reason at all.

Junk it.

wilkerson_rulz-06
01-19-2006, 04:49 PM
That incredible second half when they went 40-42?

Tampa Bay
First Half: 27-55
Second Half: 40-42

New York Yankees
First Half: 43-39
Second Half: 52-28

Tampa's "incredible" second half was actually worse than the Yank's subpar first half.

Oh, I misunderstood.
Looks like I made a fool of myself again. :(

Ubiquitous
01-19-2006, 08:06 PM
iPod beat me to it but Tampa looks so good because they allowed a ton of runs while scoring and average amount of runs. So when you combine the two they are going to get a really high number. SEcondly and here is the key. If you combine wins and losses do you know what you will get? You will get the number 162 for almost every single team in the majors because all you are doing is adding wins and losses which means all you are getting is total games played. So basically all you are really looking at is total combined runs allowed and runs scored. So really great team that scores a lot of runs but doesn't give up a lot will look worse then a really bad team that gives up a lot of runs but scores some runs. Thus TB looks good, in otherwords its a nice effort but total junk stat.