The ULTIMATE SIM!

[Williamsburg2599]

Here's a little project that I had in mind. We're taking every single team and simming playoffs on www.whatifsports.com to see what is the "best" year from each team, and then taking those teams and simming a playoff against each other to see what team is "The best team of all-time."


TEAMS THAT HAVE QUALIFIED:

Brooklyn Gladiators 1890
Brooklyn Wonders 1890
Chicago Pirates 1890
Cincinnati Kelly's Killers 1891
Cleveland Infants 1890
Indianapolis Hoosiers (Federal League) 1914
Kansas City Cowboys 1886
Newark Peppers 1915
Philadelphia Quakers 1890
Pittsburg Burghers 1890
Providence Grays 1885
Rochester Hop Bitters 1890
Seattle Pilots 1969
Syracuse Stars 1890
Toledo Maumees 1890
Baltimore Terrapins 1914
Brooklyn Feds 1915
Buffalo Feds 1915
Chicago Whales 1915
Detroit Wolverines 1885
Houston Colt 45's 1963
Indianapolis Hoosiers 1889
Atlanta Braves 1991
Boston Red Sox 2004
Kansas City Blues 1888
Kansas City Packers 1915
New York Mets 2003
Washington Nationals 2006
TEAMS THAT ARE IN-PROCESS:
Yankees


If you would like to "call dibs" on a team, please PM me or post here, please keep us updated with results of your teams:waving

[JordanDL3891]

lol, go Indipendent league's old Albany-Colonie Dimond Dogs! (formaly the Albany Yankees and Albany A's)

[SamtheBravesFan]

I'm going to attempt to do a March Madness style sim, with 7 game series in each round, with every Braves team on Whatifsports.com after they add the 2006 Braves. The next eight months will just fly by with that!

Best of the Best side and the Best of the Worst side. I was thinking about doing it with just the best ones, but even the terrible Braves teams had a special place in my heart, so I just made it for all of them.

[Erik Bedard]

Good idea! I'll do that with the Red Sox.

[Williamsburg2599]

Good idea! I'll do that with the Red Sox.
Should we assign a team to sim for everyone who wants to particpate, and then make a league out of the teams that win?

[Erik Bedard]

We could do that.

[Williamsburg2599]

Sounds good, what should the format/rules be? I'll start making a list of teams who only had one season and are automatically in the league...

[Williamsburg2599]

Teams that are automaticaly in:
Brooklyn Gladiators 1890
Brooklyn Wonders 1890
Cincinnati Kelly's Killers 1891
Cleveland Infants 1890
Indianapolis Hoosier (Federal League) 1914
Kansas City Cowboys 1886
Newark Peppers 1915
Philadelphia Quakers 1890
Pittsburg Burghers 1890
Providence Grays 1885
Rochester Hop Bitters 1890
Seattle Pilots 1969
Syracuse Stars 1890
Toledo Maumees 1890

Congrats to those teams ^, There are TONS of teams that have had short "careers" and could easily be run, if anyone wants to call "dibs" on simming those tournys(once we get the rules set)

[Williamsburg2599]

My rubylegs aren't even on the whatifsports.com list!:mad:

[SamtheBravesFan]

My rubylegs aren't even on the whatifsports.com list!:mad:

Edit: Sorry about that. XD MY end of the thing, it might take a while. ;)

[Mariano_Rivera]

I'll do the Yankees.

[Mariano_Rivera]

For some teams you could make it easier by limiting it to the teams that won the WS if nyou want.

[Williamsburg2599]

A team can be great and not win the WS and then two years down the line ber horrible and still win. So what are the rules? 7 game series for each teams? random match-ups? what about teams that have an odd number of teams?

[Erik Bedard]

I started the Red Sox last night. I'm taking six teams from each decade by playing them against each other plus four wild cards and doing a 7-game series bracket style.

So far:

1901 def. 1902, 4-3
1903 def. 1901, 4-1
1904 def. 1901, 4-2

[SamtheBravesFan]

I'm just planning to do everyone for the heck of it. From 1885-2006. :crazy

[Williamsburg2599]

I started the Red Sox last night. I'm taking six teams from each decade by playing them against each other plus four wild cards and doing a 7-game series bracket style.

So far:

1901 def. 1902, 4-3
1903 def. 1901, 4-1
1904 def. 1901, 4-2
Alrighte, that sounds good, if anyone wants to do all teams, then thats fine too. I'm going to start doing the mop-up teams, (the ones with only two or three teams) the teams with the best records get to skip the wildcard (for the teams with an odd amount of teams)

Baltimore Terrapins:
Game 1:
1915:7
@
1914:1

Game 2:
1915:12
@
1914:8

Game 3:
1915:0
@
1914:2

Game 4:
1915:1
@
1914:7

Game 5:
1915:6
@
1914:10

Game 6:
1915:3
@
1914:1

And The FINAL game 7 to see which terrapin team qualifies (drumroll please)

Game 7:
1915:0
@
1914:3

Game 7 Boxscore: http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810230&ad=1
The 1914 Baltimore Terrapins qualify for the ULTIMATE SIM Tourny!:clapping

[Erik Bedard]

1901 Red Sox def. 1905 Red Sox 4-3

Game 7 was a classic, with 1901's future HoF 3Bman Jimmy Collins robbing Kip Selbach of a hit to end the game with runners on second and third and 1901 up 4-3. Collins also went 3-4 with two doubles.

In Game 3 against the 1906 Red Sox, the 1901 set an Ultimate Sim record by scoring 22 runs!

Boxscore: http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810315&ad=1e4

In Game 4, they broke the record they set in the previous contest by scoring an astounding TWENTY-FOUR runs!

Boxscore: http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810319&ad=1

Needless to say, the 1901 club took the series in five games.

The 1901 Red Sox barely avoided humiliation by winning in Game 7 against the 1907 club after winning the first three games and dropping the next three.

In a largely uneventful series, the 1901 Red Sox fell to the 1908 club in five games.

[Williamsburg2599]

Samthebraves fan, I'll leave the Bees and reds for you, Next team: The Brooklyn Feds:

Game 1:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 8
1914 Brooklyn Feds 6

Game 2:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 15
1914 Brooklyn Feds 0

Game 3:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 3
1914 Brooklyn Feds 2

For the sweep....

Game 4:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 4
1914 Brooklyn Feds 5

Game 5:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 2
1914 Brooklyn Feds 4

Game 6:
1915 Brooklyn Feds 6
1914 Brooklyn Feds 3


And the 1915 Brooklyn Feds are in!

[Williamsburg2599]

Now up, The Buffalo Feds 1914-1915:

Game 1:
1915 Buffalo Feds 8
1914 Buffalo Feds 6

Game 2:
1915 Buffalo Feds 3
1914 Buffalo Feds 2

Game 3:
1915 Buffalo Feds 5
1914 Buffalo Feds 6

Game 4:
1915 Buffalo Feds 3
1914 Buffalo Feds 1

Game 5:
1915 Buffalo Feds 3
1914 Buffalo Feds 2


The 1915 Buffalo Feds qualify!

[Williamsburg2599]

Now up, The Chicago Whales,1914-1915!(this should be close, their win % are only a point diffrent from each other):

Game 1:

1914 Chicago Whales 10
1915 Chicago Whales 13

Game 2:

1914 Chicago Whales 6
1915 Chicago Whales 4

Game 3:
1914 Chicago Whales 6
1915 Chicago Whales 2

Game 4:

1914 Chicago Whales 5
1915 Chicago Whales 1

Game 5:

1914 Chicago Whales 3
1915 Chicago Whales 6

Game 6:
1914 Chicago Whales 5
1915 Chicago Whales 10

And the all-important...

Game 7:
1914 Chicago Whales 6
1915 Chicago Whales 9 !

Game 7 boxscore:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810523&ad=1

The 1915 Chicago Whales qualify!

[Williamsburg2599]

Next up, The Columbus Colts,1889-1891!

Wild Card (I'm doing a 3 game series for this one)

Game 1:
1889 Columbus Colts 4
1891 Columbus Colts 5

Game 2:
1889 Columbus Colts 1
1891 Columbus Colts 6

The 1891 Columbus Colts qualify!

Columbus Colts Championship Series:

Game 1:
1891 Columbus Colts 2
1890 Columbus Colts 3

Game 2:
1891 Columbus Colts 7
1890 Columbus Colts 3

Game 3:
1891 Columbus Colts 2
1890 Columbus Colts 6

Game 4:
1891 Columbus Colts 1
1890 Columbus Colts 3

Game 5:
1891 Columbus Colts 3
1890 Columbus Colts 4


Complete Game by Elton Chamberlain, 1891ers rally in 9th, but too little, too late:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810538&ad=1

and the 1890 Columbus Colts qualify!

[Williamsburg2599]

by the time this thing is over, it should be around mid-offseason, so It will keep me occupied during those long New England winters :).

[Williamsburg2599]

Next up, the Detroit Wolverines 1885-1888!

(randomly selected, semi-finals series, best of 7)

Semi-finals A, 1885@1888:

Game 1:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 4
1888 Detroit Wolverines 2

Game 2:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 5
1888 Detroit Wolverines 4

Game 3:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 2
1888 Detroit Wolverines 6

Game 4:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 8
1888 Detroit Wolverines 4

Game 5:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 4
1888 Detroit Wolverines 3

Game 5 box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810564&ad=1

1885 Wolverines move on....

Series B

Game 1:
1887 Detroit Wolverines 2
1886 Detroit Wolverines 3
note: I relized that I can use the 'copy shortcut' button, so I'll try to post every boxscore:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810567&ad=1

Game 2:
1887 Detroit Wolverines 4
1886 Detroit Wolverines 5
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810569&ad=1

Game 3:
1887 Detroit Wolverines 4
1886 Detroit Wolverines 5
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810571&ad=1

Game 4:
1887 Detroit Wolverines 2
1886 Detroit Wolverines 9
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810573&ad=1

FINALS 1885 vs. 1886

Game 1:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 7
1886 Detroit Wolverines 6
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810577&ad=1

Game 2:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 5
1886 Detroit Wolverines 3
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810579&ad=1

Game 3:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 5
1886 Detroit Wolverines 2
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810580&ad=1

Game 4:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 4
1886 Detroit Wolverines 6
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810582&ad=1

Game 5:
1885 Detroit Wolverines 5
1886 Detroit Wolverines 3
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28810583&ad=1

1885 Detroit Wolverines are in!

[SamtheBravesFan]

I'll keep everyone posted of my results and cool things in the games, but I'll probably have some big report with it somewhere else.

[Williamsburg2599]

Alright, since the Colt .45's have 3 teams, and 2 of them have the same exact record, I'm doing a one-game series to see who advoids the wild card series.

One game Play-off, 1964 45s vs 1963 45s:

1964 Houston Colt 45's 5
1963 Houston Colt 45's 2
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819833&ad=1

The 1964 team advoids the Wild card game....

Wild Card Series 1962 vs 1963:

Game 1:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 2
1963 Houston Colt 45's 7
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819836&ad=1

Game 2:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 2
1963 Houston Colt 45's 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819838&ad=1

Game 3:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 2
1963 Houston Colt 45's 0
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819840&ad=1

Game 4:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 2
1963 Houston Colt 45's 0
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819841&ad=1

Game 5:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 3
1963 Houston Colt 45's 4
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819843&ad=1

Game 6:
1962 Houston Colt 45's 5
1963 Houston Colt 45's 6
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819844&ad=1


Colt .45's championship series:
Game 1:
1963 Houston Colt 45's 5
1964 Houston Colt 45's 3
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819848&ad=1

Game 2:
1963 Houston Colt 45's 0
1964 Houston Colt 45's 1
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819850&ad=1

Game 3:
1963 Houston Colt 45's 4
1964 Houston Colt 45's 1
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819852&ad=1

Game 4:
1963 Houston Colt 45's 4
1964 Houston Colt 45's 2
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819854&ad=1

Game 5:
1963 Houston Colt 45's 8
1964 Houston Colt 45's 7
box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28819856&ad=1

1963 Colt .45s move on....

[SamtheBravesFan]

Has anybody ever taken EVERY SINGLE team in EVERY SINGLE year of EVERY SINGLE pro season and made one massive league to see who would win? I'm talking every team plays every team atleast once, and play-offs are made bigger to adjust for the large amount of teams. I think it would be interesting to see some of the odd stuff that happend and if a team that you think would win (like the 27 yanks) would lose. I assume someone could use whatifsports.com. If this has been done, everyone have a link? If not, does anyone have the time/patience or cool software to do it? If so, GO WORCHESTER RUBYLEGS!


TEAMS THAT HAVE QUALIFIED:

Brooklyn Gladiators 1890
Brooklyn Wonders 1890
Chicago Pirates 1890
Cincinnati Kelly's Killers 1891
Cleveland Infants 1890
Indianapolis Hoosier (Federal League) 1914
Kansas City Cowboys 1886
Newark Peppers 1915
Philadelphia Quakers 1890
Pittsburg Burghers 1890
Providence Grays 1885
Rochester Hop Bitters 1890
Seattle Pilots 1969
Syracuse Stars 1890
Toledo Maumees 1890
Baltimore Terrapins 1914
Brooklyn Feds 1915
Buffalo Feds 1915
Chicago Whales 1915
Detroit Wolverines 1885
Houston Colt 45's 1963

TEAMS THAT ARE IN-PROCESS:
Red Sox
Yankees
Braves

If you would like to "call dibs" on a team, please PM me or post here, please keep us updated with results of your teams:waving

I was going to do the Braves, but if you want me to do a tournament really fast, I could. Which teams should I use?

[Erik Bedard]

Same with me. The Red Sox tournament is going to take a while, though.

[Williamsburg2599]

I was going to do the Braves, but if you want me to do a tournament really fast, I could. Which teams should I use?
Run it however you choose, their really isin't a "time-table" on this or anything, I know this isin't going to be done overnight, when ever you start or finish is fine:waving.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Run it however you choose, their really isin't a "time-table" on this or anything, I know this isin't going to be done overnight, when ever you start or finish is fine:waving.

Excellent, excellent. :D I'll use the result of my "Best" bracket.

[Mariano_Rivera]

Yankees World Series

1998 Yankees versus 1927 Yankees

Winner- 1927 Yankees in 6

[Williamsburg2599]

Yankees World Series

1998 Yankees versus 1927 Yankees

Winner- 1927 Yankees in 6
How'd you run it?

[SamtheBravesFan]

Braves are playing like I can begin my sim soon, so keep your eyes peeled for the Braves losing 4 more games. ;)

[Williamsburg2599]

Braves are playing like I can begin my sim soon, so keep your eyes peeled for the Braves losing 4 more games. ;)
I hear ya, no love for Boston baseball teams this year, former or current:(

[SamtheBravesFan]

I hear ya, no love for Boston baseball teams this year, former or current:(

If it makes you feel any better, I'll have 28 Boston teams in the 64-team "Best" bracket. :) All 13 Milwaukee teams are there, since none finished below .500. So that makes 23 Atlanta teams. This year's Braves, they'll probably finish below .500, but I need to make sure they do, because the 1901 Beaneaters (69-69) are the cutoff point; the lowest #16 seed in the Best tourney. Anyone lower than at is automatically in the "Worst" bracket. I seeded by World Series, pennants, divisions, all combined with winning percentage, and then just plain winning percentage, in that order.

The only exception was that I didn't want the 1999 Braves being a #1 seed and the 1996 Braves a #2 seed, so I switched their places.

If the 2006 Braves do manage to get an 81-81 record, they'll be tied with the 1968 Braves, who have the same record, and that will bump the 1901 Beaneaters out of the Best bracket. The 1932 Braves finished 79-79.

Several Braves teams are in both the Best and Worst brackets because I'm including everyone from 1885-2006, even the legendary 1935 Boston Braves.

[Williamsburg2599]

If it makes you feel any better, I'll have 28 Boston teams in the 64-team "Best" bracket. :) All 13 Milwaukee teams are there, since none finished below .500. So that makes 23 Atlanta teams. This year's Braves, they'll probably finish below .500, but I need to make sure they do, because the 1901 Beaneaters (69-69) are the cutoff point; the lowest #16 seed in the Best tourney. Anyone lower than at is automatically in the "Worst" bracket. I seeded by World Series, pennants, divisions, all combined with winning percentage, and then just plain winning percentage, in that order.

The only exception was that I didn't want the 1999 Braves being a #1 seed and the 1996 Braves a #2 seed, so I switched their places.

If the 2006 Braves do manage to get an 81-81 record, they'll be tied with the 1968 Braves, who have the same record, and that will bump the 1901 Beaneaters out of the Best bracket. The 1932 Braves finished 79-79.

Several Braves teams are in both the Best and Worst brackets because I'm including everyone from 1885-2006, even the legendary 1935 Boston Braves.
Thats cool, where are the 1914 Braves ranked?

[SamtheBravesFan]

Thats cool, where are the 1914 Braves ranked?

A #1 seed. The 1995 Braves are the top seed, the 1957 Braves are the next and the 1914 Braves are after them. The 1996 Braves are the last #1 seed. All the other Braves teams who reached the World Series but did not win it are right after the '96 team. Then it is the teams who reached the NLCS but did not go further, then it is the teams who reached the NLDS but didn't go further, etc. etc. :crazy

[SamtheBravesFan]

In light of what is happening right now to the Braves (losing 9-4 to the Rockies), I'm going to start on my project anyway. I think they'll finish under .500 anyway.

Get ready for the Braves. :)

[SamtheBravesFan]

All right, I'm going to start on the project. Are you sure that you want me to do the whole thing with the 64 best? It'll take a REALLY long time.

[Williamsburg2599]

All right, I'm going to start on the project. Are you sure that you want me to do the whole thing with the 64 best? It'll take a REALLY long time.
I saw the end of the Braves game, tough loss:(. Whatever you have time for/feel like doing.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I saw the end of the Braves game, tough loss :( Whatever you have time for/feel like doing.

Disgusting. I'll be glad to see Tyler Yates out of a Braves uniform. Unless he gets a Reitsma-esque "second chance" *shudder*

All right. I'll do the full tournament because I can. :)

[SamtheBravesFan]

(Mmmm, forget the whole thing. I'll use the top 16 teams. :crazy)

#1 1995 Atlanta Braves vs. #16 1993 Atlanta Braves
#8 1958 Milwaukee Braves vs. #9 1948 Boston Braves

#5 1999 Atlanta Braves vs. #12 1892 Boston Beaneaters
#4 1996 Atlanta Braves vs. #13 1893 Boston Beaneaters

#3 1914 Boston Braves vs. #14 1891 Boston Beaneaters
#6 1992 Atlanta Braves vs. #11 1898 Boston Beaneaters

#7 1991 Atlanta Braves vs. #10 1897 Boston Beaneaters
#2 1957 Milwaukee Braves vs. #15 1998 Atlanta Braves

[SamtheBravesFan]

Each series is done on a 2-3-2 home basis, higher seed getting the most home games.

Lineups + Rotations

1995 Braves

CF Marquis Grissom
2B Mark Lemke
3B Chipper Jones <- He actually played in left and right field a few games this season. Jose Oliva was at third base when Chipper was in the outfield. Yes, I know, weird isn't it?
1B Fred McGriff
RF David Justice
LF Ryan Klesko
C Javy Lopez
SS Jeff Blauser

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz
Kent Mercker

1993 Braves

CF Otis Nixon
SS Jeff Blauser
LF Ron Gant
1B Fred McGriff
RF David Justice
3B Terry Pendleton
C Damon Berryhill
2B Mark Lemke

This is the same Braves lineup on Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball for the SNES. It's a quality lineup. :)

Greg Maddux
Steve Avery
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz

Game 1: 95 Braves 4, 93 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961899)
Game 2: 95 Braves 5, 93 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961902)
Game 3: 93 Braves 8, 95 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961904)
Game 4: 93 Braves 11, 95 Braves 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961906)
Game 5: 95 Braves 2, 93 Braves 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961907)
Game 6: 95 Braves 5, 93 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961911)

1995 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 2.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1958 Braves

CF Bill Bruton
2B Red Schoendienst
3B Eddie Mathews
RF Hank Aaron
LF Wes Covington
1B Joe Adcock
C Del Crandall
SS Johnny Logan

Warren Spahn
Lew Burdette
Carl Wiley
Bob Rush

1948 Braves

2B Eddie Stanky
RF Tommy Holmes
1B Earl Torgeson
3B Bob Elliott
LF Jeff Heath
CF Jim Russell
SS Alvin Dark
C Phil Masi

Johnny Sain
Vern Bickford
Bill Voiselle
Warren Spahn <- this was one of his "average" years.

Game 1: 48 Braves 9, 58 Braves 8 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961941)
Game 2: 58 Braves 6, 48 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961954)
Game 3: 48 Braves 20, 58 Braves 8 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961967)
Game 4: 58 Braves 7, 48 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961983)
Game 5: 48 Boston 2, 58 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961992)
Game 6: 48 Braves 4, 58 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28961996)

1948 Boston Braves win 4 games to 2.

[Erik Bedard]

Sorry for not posting updates. I'm doing a new format, with the following having qualified:

1903 Red Sox
1904 Red Sox
1912 Red Sox
1915 Red Sox
1916 Red Sox
1918 Red Sox
1946 Red Sox
1967 Red Sox
1986 Red Sox
2004 Red Sox

22 slots are left.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1999 Braves

LF Gerald Williams
2B Bret Boone
3B Chipper Jones
RF Brian Jordan
1B Ryan Klesko
CF Andruw Jones
C Javy Lopez
SS Walt Weiss

Kevin Millwood
John Smoltz
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine

1892 Beaneaters

SS Herman Long
3B Billy Nash
1B Tommy Tucker
CF Hugh Duffy
RF Tommy McCarthy
LF Bobby Lowe
C Charlie Ganzel
2B Joe Quinn

John Clarkson
Kid Nichols
Jack Stivetts
Harry Staley

Game 1: 99 Braves 8, 92 Beaneaters 6 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966135)
Game 2: 99 Braves 4, 92 Beaneaters 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966142)
Game 3: 92 Beaneaters 5, 99 Braves 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966146)
Game 4: 99 Braves 5, 92 Beaneaters 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966147)
Game 5: 92 Beaneaters 5, 99 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966156)
Game 6: 99 Braves 6, 92 Beaneaters 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28966165)

1999 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 2.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1996 Braves

CF Marquis Grissom
SS Jeff Blauser
3B Chipper Jones
1B Fred McGriff
LF Ryan Klesko
C Javy Lopez
RF Jermaine Dye
2B Mark Lemke

John Smoltz
Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
Steve Avery

1893 Beaneaters

C Bill Merritt
SS Herman Long
CF Hugh Duffy
LF Tommy McCarthy
3B Billy Nash
2B Bobby Lowe
1B Tommy Tucker
RF Cliff Carroll

Kid Nichols
Jack Stivetts
Harry Staley
Hank Gastright

Game 1: 93 Beaneaters 3, 96 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975776)
Game 2: 93 Beaneaters 3, 96 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975781)
Game 3: 96 Braves 20, 93 Beaneaters 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975784)
Game 4: 96 Braves 10, 93 Beaneaters 8 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975789)
Game 5: 93 Beaneaters 5, 96 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975790)
Game 6: 96 Braves 4, 93 Beaneaters 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975791)
Game 7: 96 Braves 8, 93 Beaneaters 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28975795)

1996 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 3.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1914 Braves

2B Johnny Evers
1B Butch Schmidt
3B Red Smith
LF Joe Connolly
RF Larry Gilbert
SS Rabbit Maranville
CF Les Mann
C Hank Gowdy

Bill James
Dick Rudolph
Lefty Tyler
Otto Hess

1891 Beaneaters

SS Herman Long
LF Bobby Lowe
3B Billy Nash
RF Harry Stovey
1B Tommy Tucker
CF Steve Brodie
C Charlie Bennett
2B Joe Quinn

Kid Nichols
Harry Staley
John Clarkson
Charlie Getzein

Game 1: 91 Beaneaters 8, 14 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980308)
Game 2: 91 Beaneaters 7, 14 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980351)
Game 3: 14 Braves 4, 91 Beaneaters 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980369)
Game 4: 91 Beaneaters 7, 14 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980375)
Game 5: 91 Beaneaters 3, 14 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980378)

1891 Boston Beaneaters win 4 games to 1.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1992 Braves

CF Deion Sanders
2B Mark Lemke
LF Ron Gant
3B Terry Pendleton
RF David Justice
1B Sid Bream
SS Jeff Blauser
C Damon Berryhill

Tom Glavine
John Smoltz
Steve Avery
Charlie Leibrandt

1898 Beaneaters

SS Herman Long
LF Hugh Duffy
3B Jimmy Collins
CF Billy Hamilton
RF Chick Stahl
1B Fred Tenney
C Marty Bergen
2B Bobby Lowe

Kid Nichols
Vic Willis
Ted Lewis
Fred Klobedanz

Game 1: 92 Braves 1, 98 Beaneaters 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980424)
Game 2: 92 Braves 5, 98 Beaneaters 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980433)
Game 3: 92 Braves 9, 98 Beaneaters 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980443)
Game 4: 92 Braves 3, 98 Beaneaters 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980450)

1992 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 0.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1991 Braves

CF Otis Nixon
2B Jeff Treadway
LF Ron Gant
3B Terry Pendleton
RF David Justice
1B Sid Bream
SS Jeff Blauser
C Greg Olson

Tom Glavine
Steve Avery
Charlie Leibrandt
John Smoltz

1897 Beaneaters

CF Billy Hamilton
SS Herman Long
RF Chick Stahl
LF Hugh Duffy
3B Jimmy Collins
2B Bobby Lowe
1B Fred Tenney
C Charlie Ganzel

Kid Nichols
Ted Lewis
Jim Sullivan
Fred Klobedanz

Game 1: 91 Braves 2, 97 Beaneaters 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980567)
Game 2: 91 Braves 7, 97 Beaneaters 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980571)
Game 3: 97 Beaneaters 9, 91 Braves 6 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980576)
Game 4: 97 Beaneaters 6, 91 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980577)
Game 5: 91 Braves 10, 97 Beaneaters 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980582)
Game 6: 91 Braves 8, 97 Beaneaters 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980586)

1991 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 2.

[SamtheBravesFan]

1957 Braves

SS Johnny Logan
2B Red Schoendiest
3B Eddie Mathews
CF Hank Aaron (http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=aaronha01)
LF Wes Covington
1B Joe Adcock
RF Bob Hazle
C Del Crandall

Warren Spahn
Bob Buhl
Gene Conley
Lew Burdette

1998 Braves

SS Walt Weiss
RF Michael Tucker
3B Chipper Jones
1B Andres Galarraga
C Javy Lopez
CF Andruw Jones
LF Ryan Klesko
2B Keith Lockhart

Greg Maddux
Tom Glavine
John Smoltz
Denny Neagle

Game 1: 98 Braves 4, 57 Braves 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980618)
Game 2: 57 Braves 8, 98 Braves 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980621)
Game 3: 57 Braves 4, 98 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980623)
Game 4: 57 Braves 15, 98 Braves 9 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980624)
Game 5: 57 Braves 4, 98 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28980625)

1957 Milwaukee Braves win 4 games to 1.

PHEW! Quarterfinals next!

[SamtheBravesFan]

#1 1995 Atlanta Braves vs. #9 1948 Boston Braves
#4 1996 Atlanta Braves vs. #5 1999 Atlanta Braves

#6 1992 Atlanta Braves vs. #14 1891 Boston Beaneaters
#2 1957 Milwaukee Braves vs. #7 1991 Atlanta Braves

[SamtheBravesFan]

For my big project, unrelated to this one, for those who would like to know, this season's Braves could be tied with the 1967 Braves at worst and be tied with the 1984 Braves at best, putting them in the low #2 seed to lowest #3 seed range in the "Best of the Worst" side of the tournament.

[Williamsburg2599]

7 Game series to decide who plays 1889 in the finals:

Game 1:
1887 Indianapolis Hoosiers 6
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 4
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989139&ad=1

Game 2:
1887 Indianapolis Hoosiers 12
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989141&ad=1

Game 3:
1887 Indianapolis Hoosiers 0
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989143&ad=1

Game 4:
1887 Indianapolis Hoosiers 4
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 1
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989145&ad=1

Game 5:
1887 Indianapolis Hoosiers 8
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 4
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989147&ad=1


The 1887 team will play the 1889 team for the championship:

FINALS

Game 1:
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 3
1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers 2
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989149&ad=1

Game 2:
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 10
1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers 11
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989151&ad=1

Game 3:
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 3
1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers 4
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989152&ad=1

Game 4:
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 6
1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers 9
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989153&ad=1

Game 5:
1888 Indianapolis Hoosiers 2
1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=28989157&ad=1



The 1889 Indianapolis Hoosiers move on....

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 48 Braves 4, 95 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989176)
Game 2: 48 Braves 15, 95 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989177)
Game 3: 95 Braves 10, 48 Braves 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989180)
Game 4: 48 Braves 21, 95 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989182)
Game 5: 48 Braves 7, 95 Braves 6 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989185)

1948 Boston Braves win 4 games to 1!!! :eek:

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 99 Braves 7, 96 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989212)
Game 2: 99 Braves 18, 96 Braves 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989221)
Game 3: 99 Braves 2, 96 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989231)
Game 4: 96 Braves 11, 99 Braves 6 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989243)
Game 5: 96 Braves 5, 99 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989251)
Game 6: 99 Braves 5, 96 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989261)

1999 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 2.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 92 Braves 6, 91 Beaneaters 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989307)
Game 2: 91 Beaneaters 4, 92 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989312)
Game 3: 91 Beaneaters 8, 92 Braves 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989319)
Game 4: 92 Braves 14, 91 Beaneaters 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989321)
Game 5: 91 Beaneaters 4, 92 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989330)
Game 6: 92 Braves 6, 91 Beaneaters 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989341)
Game 7: 92 Braves 8, 91 Beaneaters 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989344)

1992 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 3.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 91 Braves 16, 57 Braves 9 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989348)
Game 2: 91 Braves 5, 57 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989350)
Game 3: 91 Braves 6, 57 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989351)
Game 4: 91 Braves 4, 57 Braves 0 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989353)

GASP! :eek: 1991 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 0!!! :eek:

Really, I didn't see that coming. :)

[SamtheBravesFan]

#5 1999 Atlanta Braves vs. #9 1948 Boston Braves
#6 1992 Atlanta Braves vs. #7 1991 Atlanta Braves

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 48 Braves 6, 99 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989357)
Game 2: 48 Braves 3, 99 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989358)
Game 3: 48 Braves 4, 99 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989359)
Game 4: 48 Braves 9, 99 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28989361)

1948 Boston Braves win 4 games to 0?!!!! *dies*

... *revives* Boy, what a Cinderlla story. The 1948 Boston Braves have one spot in the Finals.

[SamtheBravesFan]

Game 1: 91 Braves 5, 92 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993598)
Game 2: 92 Braves 9, 91 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993601)
Game 3: 92 Braves 9, 91 Braves 7 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993606)
Game 4: 91 Braves 6, 92 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993609)
Game 5: 92 Braves 4, 91 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993611)
Game 6: 91 Braves 7, 92 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993614)
Game 7: 91 Braves 7, 92 Braves 4 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993617)

1991 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 3.

How appropriate. :) The team that started the dynasty plays one of the better Braves teams in history.

[SamtheBravesFan]

(I notice that I accidently started Mark Lemke instead of Jeff Treadway the last couple of series because my memory slipped. But the result still would have stood probably, so it will be rectified in this series. Besides, think of it as Mark putting in his two cents to give the 1991 Braves the title of Best Braves Team of All Time. :) )

#7 1991 Atlanta Braves vs. #9 1948 Boston Braves

1991 Braves (12-5)

CF Otis Nixon
2B Jeff Treadway
LF Ron Gant
3B Terry Pendleton
RF David Justice
1B Sid Bream
SS Jeff Blauser
C Greg Olson

Tom Glavine
Steve Avery
Charlie Leibrandt
John Smoltz

1948 Braves (12-3)

2B Eddie Stanky
RF Tommy Holmes
1B Earl Torgeson
3B Bob Elliott
LF Jeff Heath
CF Jim Russell
SS Alvin Dark
C Phil Masi

Johnny Sain
Vern Bickford
Bill Voiselle
Warren Spahn

The 1991 Atlanta Braves is the team that put professional sports in Atlanta permanently on the map. The Braves, Falcons and Hawks all had fleeting moments of success, but little results to show when it came time for the postseason. Not anymore.

Otis Nixon set a Braves club record with 72 stolen bases in the campaign, Terry Pendleton won the NL MVP while leading the league in batting average (beating Tony Gwynn!!) and Ron Gant led the team in both homers (32) and RBI (105) and young Tom Glavine won 20 games, finished third in ERA and became the club's first Cy Young Award winner and just the second in Braves history (Warren Spahn).

The 1948 Braves had the best pitching staff in the National League, anchored by NL win leader and team ERA leader Johnny Sain. You may have heard "Spahn and Sain and two days of rain", but that doesn't mean it was just them. Vern Bickford and Bill Voiselle contributed their fair share.

Bob Elliott, the 1947 NL MVP, led the league with 131 walks and led the team with 23 homers and 100 RBI. Jeff Heath was the only other Brave who had 20 or more homers (20), and Earl Torgeson, had ten. No one else had more than that. Shortstop Alvin Dark won Rookie of the Year as best rookie in the major leagues, batting .322.

With these being special games, I'll bring them to you one by one with a little write-up for each. :)

EDIT: Heh heh heh, I said "little". Yeah right! ;)

[SamtheBravesFan]

The Atlanta Braves fans were ready for war with their new Tomahawk Chop and war chant. Undoubtedly, the '48 Braves hadn't seen anything like it.

The game started out slowly, no one getting a hand up on the other, with Johnny Sain and Tom Glavine trading goose eggs in the first.

Then the second inning came. Bob Elliott led off with a double, Jim Russell walked and then Alvin Dark hit into a fielder's choice, with Russell being forced at second. Phil Masi then stepped up and slapped a single to Justice in right, scoring Elliott. The Atlanta boys barely had time to adjust when Sain lined a hard single past Jeff Blauser to make it 2-0. Eddie Stanky lined out to end the inning.

In the bottom of the second, David Justice hit a single and stole second and took third on Sid Bream's grounder to Stanky. Jeff Blauser then chopped a grounder back to the mound. Justice tried to surprise Sain by dashing for the plate, but Sain quickly relayed to Masi, who tagged Justice out. Greg Olson took a hit for the team, but Glavine lined out to second to end the threat.

In the bottom of the third, Otis Nixon singled to right, stole second, and then advanced to third on Jeff Treadway's flyball that pressed Tommy Holmes to the wall in right. Ron Gant then grounded out to Stanky and Nixon raced home to make it 2-1.

The top of the next inning proved to be profitable. A Jim Russell walk, a Dark single that Bream was unable to beat him to the bag and a Masi walk loaded the bases with none out. Sain then grounded a ball to Bream whothrew home, but it was high and Olson had to leap to prevent it from going over his head. All runners were safe. Stanky then hit a grounder up the middle that Treadway attempted to dive and grab, but he had been playing too much towards first. Nixon got the ball back in quickly to prevent another runner from scoring and making it more than 3-1. Glavine struck out Holmes for the first out. Earl Torgeson then tattooed a ball that Bream snatched out of the air to the delight of the crowd. Maybe the Braves were going to get out of this without any further damage...

With a full count on Bob Elliott, Glavine unleashed one of his patented corner change-ups. The umpire said nothing. Ball four. 4-1. The crowd wasn't happy and neither was Glavine. Tom was so upset, he grooved a fastball to Heath, who hit a dying quail to left that landed in front of Gant and drove in two men to increase the lead to 6-1. By then, Bobby Cox had had enough, yanking the young left-hander in favor of veteran Rick Mahler, on his second tour of duty with the Braves. Russell then grounded out softly to Treadway, ending the threat. But the damage was done and the crowd was a little quieter.

Sain set the Braves down 1-2-3 and Mahler allowed just a single on his end. In the bottom of the fifth, Sain struck out Greg Olson, but couldn't get his opposing mound mate out, Mahler poking a single in front of Ellott and into left. Nixon singled and then Treadway hit a hard single to Heath. On his horse, Mahler scored from second to make it 6-2. Gant drew a walk to load the bases with one out and Pendleton going to the plate sent the fans into a tizzy. That died down quick, as batting champ Pendleton chopped a ball in front of the plate that Masi grabbed, threw to Dark to just get Gant at second, and Dark fired to Elliott to first to get the slow Pendleton and end the '91 Braves' comeback hopes for now.

In the bottom of the sixth, Justice grounded out and then Bream singled. Blauser then smacked a ball that bounced on the warning track and over the wall. The fans cheered louder again. But Olson grounded to Elliott and the runners had to hold. With two out, Cox sent up a pinch hitter, Keith Mitchell, to try to drive the two runners in. But he grounded out to Elliott too, the crowd groaning as another opportunity was wasted.

The top of the seventh saw late-1991 acquisition Mike Bielecki come into the game for the Braves. Heath walked and then Russell sent Justice to the wall in right. Dark then hit a flyball single to left that plopped in front of Gant to put men on first and third. Masi then walked to load the bases with one out. Bielecki struck out Sain, but then faltered on Stanky, going 3-0 on him. The next pitch was nowhere near, and Heath trotted home with the 7th run of the day for the '48 Braves. Bielecki was then able to work Holmes to a full count, and then fired a fastball that seemed to be on the outside corner. No dice. Ball four. The Atlanta fans then started to boo as the 8th run was scored. They booed again after Torgeson struck out, but that was mostly heaped at the umpire and not Bielecki. 8-2 '48 Braves.

In the next two half-innings, Gant and Elliott traded solo shots. In the Atlanta half of the eighth, three straight singles by Bream, Blauser and Olson with one out loaded the bases. The fans cheered, but they all knew the Atlanta boys had failed at this situation all night long. Veteran Lonnie Smith came up to pinch-hit, and he hit a dribbler to Dark at short. Stanky got the force on Olson, but Greg's takeout slide was enough to throw Stanky's velocity on the throw off and Smith beat the throw to first, scoring Bream. Nixon then slapped a single to right, scoring Blauser and making it 10-5. Sain was still out there this whole time, and Billy Southworth made no effort to go out and get the fireballer. He ended up being right as Treadway grounded out to Stanky.

Tony Castillo came on for the '91 Braves in the ninth and held the '48 Braves to just Stanky's 2-out double. Johnny Sain took the mound for the '48 Braves in the bottom of the 9th. He had thrown around 120 pitches, but he was still out there. Three weak flyouts by Gant, Pendleton and Justice sealed the deal and the '48 Braves celebrated their Game 1 victory.

Game 1: 48 Braves 10, 91 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993961)

[SamtheBravesFan]

The Atlanta fans returned to Fulton County Stadium ready to cheer for their Braves. They hadn't forgotten about yesterday's loss and they were eager to cheer on their boys to get revenge.

Steve Avery, the 1991 NLCS MVP, started for the '91 Braves and Vern Bickford was his opposing mound mate.

The first hit of the day came on a Terry Pendleton single leading off the second inning. He didn't score because there were no more hits that inning. Avery had it going well, retiring the Boston order once through, getting strikeouts of Bob Elliott and Bickford.

In the top of the fourth, Eddie Stanky got ahold of an Avery curve and drove it to left. Ron Gant ran to the wall and scaled it, but he watched the ball go over his glove for a home run. Avery escaped further damage, allowing just a walk to Elliott.

The Atlanta fans sat back and soaked in a super pitching duel. Through six innings there were just four hits: Phil Masi, Jeff Blauser and Terry Pendleton singles and the Stanky home run. The '48 Braves were up 1-0 going into the seventh. Avery was still out there to the delight of every Atlanta fan, player and coach. This was exactly what they needed: a great start to build on.

After an Elliott groundout, Jef Heath hit a double in the right field field gap. Jim Russell then poked at a ball in shallow center, but Otis Nison was playing a llittle more shallow and he caught the ball easily. The star rookie Alvin Dark then slapped a single to left field, scoring Heath and making it 2-0. Phil Masi finished the inning by chopping a ball in front of the plate that Greg Olson gloved and tossed to first base for the out.

In the bottom of the seventh, the Braves had Nixon on second, with a stolen base and Ron Gant on first with a walk and one out, but Pendleton flied out to left, taking Heath to the warning track and then Justice flied out to Heath again, but a bit more closer to the infield. Heath gloved it easily.

In the top of the 8th, with one out, Stanky walked and Tommy Holmes then singled into scenter, getting Eddie to third. Torgeson then smacked a long drive deep to right, but Gant gloved it in front of the track. Stanky tagged up and scored and it was 3-0. That much closer to taking a 2-0 series lead. Elliott smacked a single and Heath walked to load the bases with two out. But Jim Russell flied out to Nixon in shallow center to end the threat, the fans applauding and cheering.

The Atlanta fans were uneasy and the cheers had murmurrs in between in the bottom of the eighth. If they were going to come back, they had to right now. It was Ernie White's job too keep the Braves off of the board.

A walk to Sid Bream didn't help him. Blauser then followed that with a single, sending Bream to second. The cheers rang through the ballpark as Greg Olson stood at the plate. White was able to get him to pop out to shallow left. Now, decision time. Does Cox go with Steve Avery, who has been relatively succesful today, or go with a pinch hitter to try to get the runners in with one out? Answer: Keith Mitchell. And he drew a walk. The cheers were deafening as Otis Nixon came to the plate. Sure, he probably wouldn't hit a home run, but he can hit! And he sure did hit, sending a single into center field. plating Bream and making the score 3-1. Jeff Treadway came up and worked the count full. The last pitch bounced at the plate, making it 3-2, and turning Fulton County Stadium into a buzzing bowl of hope. Ron Gant worked the count as well. White was frazzed enough to throw a ball-three pitch over Masi's head, walking Gant and tying the score. The Braves fans were at their loudest than at any other time in this series!

Southworth finally pulled out White, sending in Nels Potter. Pendleton then chopped a ball to second base. Stanky was able to get the ball to dark, but the transition was a little slow, and that was enough for Pendleton to beat the throw to first! Nixon scored and the Braves had a 4-3 lead!

David Justice worked a walk to load the bases again. Unforunately, Bream bounced out to Stanky.

In the top of the ninth, Alejandro Pena came in to close the game. At least the Braves fans in the stands hoped he would. His first challenge: Alvin Dark. He singled to right. Next up, pinch hitter Mike McCormick. He grounded to short and Blauser threw to Treadway to get Dark, but that's all they got. One down. Pinch hitter Bill Salkeld walked up to the plate and promptly popped a ball into right. Justice got under it and caught it easily, sending cheers from the stands. One more out and the series would be tied!

Stanky came up again. With a 1-2 count, he poked a single past a diving Treadway, getting McCormick to third. With the cheers ringing in everyone's ears, Tommy Holmes came up to try to get the Boston Braves back into this. He hit a sharp grounder to second base, but this time, Treadway was there to get it. He threw to Bream and the stadium exploded in cheers. Series all knotted up at one!

Game 2: 91 Braves 4, 48 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998437)

[SamtheBravesFan]

It was time to move on to Braves Field in 1948. To be sure, the Atlanta boys knew about people dressing nicely for baseball games, with suits and fedoras for the men and dresses for the ladies, but they had never seen so many of them in one place, outside of a church. :p

Today's pitching matchup featured Bill Voiselle, who wore 96 in honor of his hometown, Ninety-Six, S. C., for the home Braves against veteran Charlie Leibrandt. This was one game that Leibrandt did not want to blow. After giving up the walk-off home run to Kirby Puckett in the 1991 World Series, he didn't want to blow this opportunity. Bill Voiselle didn't want to do badly in this game either. He lost a one-run affair with Cleveland in Game 6, which gave the Indians the World Series, and he wanted to do better himself.

Well, sorry, Bill. Really sorry. Otis Nixon led off with a smart single, stole second and then raced around to score when Jeff Treadway's smack found its way up the middle for a base hit. Next up was Ron Gant. After two curves, Voiselle tried a fastball and Gant just crushed it, the ball landing far beyond the left field fence, giving the Atlanta Braves a quick 3-0 lead.

But they weren't done.

Terry Pendleton followed with a single and then David Justice also singled. Pendleton raced for third, but Tommy Holmes made an excellent throw to Elliott, beating Pendleton by about two feet. Sid Bream then hit a seeing-eye single that made its way past Alvin Dark and got Justice over to third since he was on his horse. Jeff Blauser struck out, but Greg Olson lined a ball hard to left center that found a gap in the spacious outfield and it was a two-run double. 5-0. Billy Southworth was fuming and some of the fans were too. As a result, Voiselle was yanked and Red Barrett replaced him. Charlie Leibrandt popped out to shallow left, where Dark corralled the ball to end the inning.

A Holmes single was all the '48 Braves mustered in the next inning. Nixon singling and stealing second, causing the Boston fans to murmurr in dread. This was excatly how the last inning started! But Treadway grounded out, Gant popped out and Pendleton struck out. Phew!

With two out in the bottom of the inning, Dark hit a single and Phil Masi hit a flyball that found its way to the wall, scoring Dark. But Masi was only able to get to second. Pitcher Red Barrett lined out to Pendleton to end the inning, but there was finally a 1 on the home team's line on the scoreboard.

Justice led off the next inning with a single, but then Bream hit a grounder to Elliott, who was able to get the ball to Eddie Stanky for the out at second, but it was so slow that even Bream could get to first. Jeff Blauser then followed with a single, but then Greg Olson popped out to Stanky in shallow center and Leibrandt grounded out to Elliott.

Stanky and Holmes hit back-to-back doubles leading off the inning, Holmes' ball smacked right in front of Pendleton so hard, he barely had time to move. Leibrandt buckled down after that, getting Torgeson and Elliott to fly out to Gant and Nixon and even snaring a hot line drive by Jeff Heath that surely would have been a single.

Nixon led off the fourth with another single, but Treadway struck out and Gant hit into a double play. Time to answer for the '48 Braves? Well, with two out, Masi hit another long double and pinch-hitter Clint Conatser walked. Stanky got a huge rise out of the crowd with his long drive to center, but Nixon gloved it on the warning track.

Bobby Hogue was the new Boston pitcher. Pendleton led off with a single and seeing that no one was really paying any attention to him, he was told to steal by Bobby Cox after Justice flew out to Jim Russell. Pendleton actually made it. Sid Bream hit a hard one, but it was right at Dark. Blauser then hit a blooper towards center that found a spot on the green, Pendleton racing around to score and make it 6-2 Atlanta. Oslon then hit a blooper to center, but this time, Russell was waiting for it after playing more shallow.

The game was halfway done and Atlanta was still up 6-2. Things looked good for Leibrandt. Then again, don't count your chickens before they hatch. Holmes popped out to Bream at first and Torgeson flied out to Gant. Elliott then singled and Jeff Heath lined a shot down the right field line that bounced around in the outfield, letting him get to third. Then Russell clobbered a ball that even got over Nixon's head, going to the wall and he had himself a double. Dark then lined a single over Blauser's head and just like that, it was 6-5. Bobby Cox hated to do it, but he brought in Rick Mahler to relieve Leibrandt. Masi smacked one immediately off of the new Atlanta pitcher, but Gant gloved it in front of the warning track.

In the top of the 6th, Treadway hit a double with two out, but didn't get farther than that. In the bottom of the inning, Stanky hit a single with one out and then tried to steal second on the next pitch. But Greg Olson suspected that, called a pitchout and nailed Stanky with a perfect throw and tag by Treadway. Holmes lined out after that.

The 7th inning was quick, as both teams went one-two-three. Blauser led off the 8th with a walk, but Olson lined out to Stanky, so Jeff couldn't move. Mahler, who was still pitching well, tried to bunt Blauser over, but Hogue pounced on the ball and started a 1-4-3 double play. Inning over.

Mahler continued his mastery, getting the '48 Braves 1-2-3 in the bottom of the inning. In the 9th, Nixon had a familiar start to the inning: he singled and stole second. He advanced to third on Treadway's groundout to Torgeson, and Hogue looked like he was going to get out of it when Gant grounded out to Elliott, but Pendleton hit a smooth, clean single to right, scoring Nixon. Justice added another single in front of Heath and Pendleton boldly went to third and reached, but Bream struck out to end the threat.

The fans cheered on their '48 Braves as Bill Salkeld came up to pinch-hit for Hogue, but the only hit the Boston nine had against Mahler was a single by Stanky in the sixth. Salkeld grounded to Bream at first for the first out. Stanky then flied out to Justice in right and Holmes grounded weakly back to Mahler, who tossed to Bream at first and the '91 Braves celebrated taking a 2-1 series lead.

Game 3: 91 Braves 7, 48 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998439)

[SamtheBravesFan]

Okay, I was typing up Game 4, painstakingly as usual, when I got the blue screen of death. I decided enough is enough. So, I'm going to post the boxscores again, but I will also give capsules on who won and lost and their tourney records and how many home runs people hit. :) I'll come up with some overall statistics for the 1991 and 1948 Braves if anyone cares enough. ;)

Game 1: 48 Braves 10, 91 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28993961)

W - Johnny Sain (3-0)
L - Tom Glavine (3-2)
HR - BOS - Bob Elliott (1)
ATL - Ron Gant (6)

Game 2: 91 Braves 4, 48 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998437)

W - Steve Avery (4-1)
L - Ernie White (0-1)
S - Alejandro Pena (6)
HR - Eddie Stanky (1)

Game 3: 91 Braves 7, 48 Braves 5 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998439)

W - Rick Mahler (1-1)
L - Bill Voiselle (1-2)
HR - Ron Gant (7)

Game 4: 91 Braves 4, 48 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998441)

W - John Smoltz (2-0)
L - Warren Spahn (2-1)
HR - David Justice (5)

Game 5: 48 Braves 3, 91 Braves 2 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998442)

W - Johnny Sain (4-0)
L - Mike Bielecki (1-1)
S - Ernie White (7)
HR - Sid Bream (2)

Game 6: 48 Braves 2, 91 Braves 1 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998444)

W - Vern Bickford (4-1)
L - Steve Avery (4-2)
HR - Terry Pendleton (2)

Game 7: 91 Braves 5, 48 Braves 3 (http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=28998445)

W - Charlie Leibrandt (4-1)
L - Bill Voiselle (1-3)
S - Alejandro Pena (7)
HR - Ron Gant (8)

1991 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 3 and are officially the best Braves team ever. Congratulations! :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping

[Williamsburg2599]

1991 Atlanta Braves win 4 games to 3 and are officially the best Braves team ever. Congratulations! :clapping :clapping :clapping :clapping
:( 2nd place for Boston ain't bad. Nice Work, Sam. I'll add them to the qualified list. If anyone else wants to sim for a team, please let me know!:waving

[rockiesfan4ever]

How would I do it for the Rockies

[SamtheBravesFan]

How would I do it for the Rockies

However you want. :) Since the Rockies have existed for only 12 seasons, I suggest waiting until they put the 2006 teams up and pick the top 8 teams and doing a tournament like mine. But that's your decision, not mine. :)

Use the simulation engine at whatifsports.com. Register so you can save games. :)

[SamtheBravesFan]

:( 2nd place for Boston ain't bad. Nice Work, Sam. I'll add them to the qualified list. If anyone else wants to sim for a team, please let me know!:waving

Thanks. :) Glad to do it. Heh heh heh, I still can't get over Rick Mahler doing 4 1/3 innings of one-single relief. :laugh

[rockiesfan4ever]

OK I will do this now. MIght post boxscores might not.

[rockiesfan4ever]

OK I am thinking of doing a Round Robin. Everyone plays everyone in 3 times. Then maybe take top 5 or 6

1993 vs. 1994- Game 1
W-Bruce Ruffin (94)
L-Darren Holmes (93)
HR-Dante BIchette (94), Howard Johnson (94)
http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=29090988&ad=1

1993 vs. 1994- Game 2
0-1 vs. 1-0
W-Curt Leskanic (94)
L-Gary Wayne (93)
HR-Castilla, Bichette, Girardi, Galarraga (94), Hayes, Boston (93)


1993 vs. 1994- Game 3
0-2 vs. 2-0
W-Mike Harkey (94)
L-David Neid (93)
HR- Galarraga (94)
http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=29091023&ad=1

1993 vs. 1995- Game 1
0-3 vs. 0-0
W-Willie Blair (93)
L-Juan Acevado (95)
HR- Galarraga, Hayes, Boston 3 (93), Young, Bichette (95)
http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=29091028&ad=1

1993 vs. 1995- Game 2
1-3 vs. 0-1
W-A.J. Sager (95)
L-Curt Leskanic (93)
HR- Walker, Bichette, Burks, Vander Wal, Galarraga (95), Galarraga, Hayes, Boston, Clark (93)

1993 vs. 1995- Game 3
1-4 vs. 1-1
W-Joe Grahe (95)
L-Mo Sandford (93)
S-Roger Bailey (95)
HR-L. Walker, D. Bichette, V. Castilla, E. Burks, A. Galarraga, J. Girardi (95), D. Bichette, D. Boston, V. Castilla (93).
http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=29091038&ad=1


Lots more to come. Sorry about some of the missing links to box scores.

Standings As of right now
93: 1-5, .200, Last place
94: 3-0, 1.000, First Place
95: 2-1, .667, Second Place

[SamtheBravesFan]

Well, good luck with that. :) My money's on the 1995 Rockies.

[rockiesfan4ever]

I thought so but AORN it's the 1994 Rockies

[Williamsburg2599]

~Bump~

Anybody else interested in this?

[Erik Bedard]

I'm almost done with the Sox... the eight finalists are:

2004
1975
1967
1918
1912
1986
1975
2003

[Williamsburg2599]

Is anybody still interesting in completing this?

[rockiesfan4ever]

I need to start it again I forgot baout it b/c of school

[Erik Bedard]

Is anybody still interesting in completing this?

I finished it for fun. The winner of the all-time Boston Red Sox sim....

yooooooooooooooooour

2004 BOSTON RED SOX!

[Williamsburg2599]

Interesting! I'll add them to the completed list. If anybody is interesting in picking up a team, Please PM me or post here/

[Williamsburg2599]

Game 1
1888 Kansas City Blues 8
1889 Kansas City Blues 9
Boxscore:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305280&ad=1

Game 2
1888 Kansas City Blues 2
1889 Kansas City Blues 7
Boxscore:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305288&ad=1

Game 3:
1888 Kansas City Blues 6
1889 Kansas City Blues 2
Boxscore:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305291&ad=1

Game 4:
1888 Kansas City Blues 2
1889 Kansas City Blues 1
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305293&ad=1

Game 5:
1888 Kansas City Blues 2
1889 Kansas City Blues 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305296&ad=1

Game 6:
1888 Kansas City Blues 15
1889 Kansas City Blues 2
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305298&ad=1

Game 7:
1888 Kansas City Blues 6
1889 Kansas City Blues 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30305299&ad=1


1888 Kansas City Blues move on...

[Williamsburg2599]

Game 1:
1914 Kansas City Packers 7
1915 Kansas City Packers 1
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30336878&ad=1

Game 2:
1914 Kansas City Packers 1
1915 Kansas City Packers 10
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30336887&ad=1

Game 3:
1914 Kansas City Packers 1
1915 Kansas City Packers 3
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30336889&ad=1

Game 4:
1914 Kansas City Packers 1
1915 Kansas City Packers 5
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30336891&ad=1

Game 5:
1914 Kansas City Packers 1
1915 Kansas City Packers 2
Box:http://www.whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30336894&ad=1

1915 Kansas City Packers move on....

[Mr. Grission]

I'll try the NY Mets.

P.S.- If your interested in this, try the Simleagues baseball on WIS. Its really cool.

[SamtheBravesFan]

I'll try the NY Mets.

P.S.- If your interested in this, try the Simleagues baseball on WIS. Its really cool.

But that costs money. :laugh This is free. :D

[Mr. Grission]

Here's my tournament- too many box scores to keep track of.
I started with 3 leagues.
League 1- 1962-1977
League 2- 1978-1993
League 3- 1994-2006

Leagues 1 and 2 were a standard 16 team tournament.
1-
1962 beats 1977 3-2
1976 beats 1963 3-2
1975 beats 1964 4-2
1974 beats 1965 8-6
1973 beats 1966 3-2
1967 beats 1972 4-2
1971 beats 1968 2-1
1969 beats 1970 4-2

For the semifinals the teams were randomly shuffled.
1962 beats 1971 13-4
1969 beats 1976 3-2
1967 beats 1973 3-2
1974 beats 1975 4-2 in 11 inn.

Same for the finals.
1969 beats 1974 5-0
1962 beats 1967 4-2

1969 beats 1962 11-1

I took the winner and the loser in each league and placed them into "The Big 6" Championship League.

2-
1978 beats 1993 7-1
1979 beats 1992 4-3
1980 beats 1991 10-2
1990 beats 1981 9-3
1989 beats 1982 2-0
1988 beats 1983 6-2
1987 beats 1984 2-1
1986 beats 1985 6-1

1978 beats 1990 6-4
1986 beats 1980 17-2
1988 beats 1979 4-3
1987 beats 1989 8-5

1978 beats 1987 5-3
1988 beats 1986 2-1

1988 beats 1978 7-2

3-
A bit of a different format here. I made 5 matchups of 2 teams and made one 3 team series.

1994 beats 2006 5-4
1995 beats 2005 4-2 in 10 inn.
2004 beats 1996 7-6
2003 beats 1997 6-4
1998 beats 2002 3-1
Now here's the twist:
1999 beats 2001 7-3 in 11 inn.
1999 beats 2000 12-5

2003 beats 1994 7-5
1995 beats 1999 11-5
2004 beats 1998 4-2

Finals:
1995 automatically goes to the big 6 with the highest Win % out of the semifinal winners.
2003 beats 2004 3-1
2003 beats 1995 6-3

"The Big Six" Championship Round-
Rules-
Each team will play every other team.
Homefield Advantage Decision-
HFA will go to the winners while facing the losers, while winners play winners and losers play losers, the higher win% will get HFA.

The Teams:
1962
1969
1978
1988
1995
2003

1962 beats 1969 4-1
1988 beats 1962 7-3
2003 beats 1962 6-2
1962 beats 1995 6-5
1962 beats 1978 6-1
1969 beats 1978 2-1
1988 beats 1978 3-2 in 10 inn.
2003 beats 1978 5-4
1978 beats 1995 7-6
1969 beats 1995 2-0
1995 beats 1988 2-1
2003 beats 1995 6-2
2003 beats 1969 8-1
1988 beats 2003 6-1
1969 beats 1988 1-0

Final "Big 6" Championship Round Standings
6th- TIE
1978 AND 1995 1-4
4th- TIE
1962, 1969, AND 1988 3-2

And for the first time the 2003 Mets and winner have been mentioned in the same sentence!

If you want the box scores PM me. It just takes too long to copy and paste them in.

WINNER-
THE 2003 METS!!

[Mr. Grission]

I'll do the Nationals too:

Game 1-
'05 Nats at '06 Nats
2006 WINS 5-3
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456447&ad=1

Game 2-
'06 Nats at '05 Nats
2005 WINS 21-14
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456451&ad=1

Game 3-
'05 Nats at '06 Nats
2006 WINS 16-3
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?gameid=30456450

Game 4-
'06 Nats at '05 Nats
2005 WINS 5-2
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456453&ad=1

Game 5-
'05 Nats at '06 Nats
2006 WINS 9-5
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456460&ad=1

Game 6-
'06 Nats at '05 Nats
2005 WINS 7-6
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456465&ad=1

Game 7-
'05 Nats at '06 Nats
2006 wins 12-7
http://whatifsports.com/mlb/boxscore.asp?GameID=30456468&ad=1

2006 Nationals are Nationals champions!

[Williamsburg2599]

Good job, Tacos. I'll add them to the finished list.