Lou Gehrig Thread [Archive]

Bill Burgess

01-01-2002, 02:12 AM

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Mariano_Rivera

11-30-2006, 04:11 PM

Lou Gehrig

Loe Gehrig was born on Friday June 19, 1903. Coincidentally that was the first year the Yankees (known as the Highlanders at the time) competed in the American League. He debuted with the New York Yankees at the age of 19 (4 days before his 20th birthday) on June 15, 1923. He never hit 60 HR like Ruth, he never hit .400 like Cobb, he never delivered his team a championship by inventing the web gem like Brooks Robinson, he was never the best player in the league for more than a year at a time, he wasn`t ever even the best player on his own team for more than a year or two that honor went to DiMaggio and Ruth most of the time, but he was reliable. His consecutive game streak is a testament to that. He had his best season and one of the best ever in 1927 but he may have been overshadowed by his teammate Babe Ruth that season as well.

Here's a few Gehrig movies on Youtube:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DUthTokBT1M

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCnwIcWf_0c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m_MDj5Tjj5A
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Lou's Relative Stats:

Gehrig------Rel.BA-----Rel.Onbase-----Rel.Slg.-----OPS+-----Rel.ISO+
----------117.2 (37th)---126.4 (11th)---154 (3rd)---179 (4th)---227.6 (3rd)
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Home/Away--BA----Slg.----onbase---HR---D-------T-----RBI------AB------BB
Home:-----.329---.620-----.436----251---206-----83-----947-----3,861----713
Away:-----.351---.644----.458----242---329-----79---1,043-----4,140---795
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Hitting Stats Comparison Chart:

Gehrig, Cobb, Wagner, Hornsby, Ruth, T. Williams, Mantle, Mays, Aaron, DiMaggio, Speaker, Lajoie, Musial, Collins, Crawford, J. Jackson, Wheat, Roush, Foxx, Clemente, Schmidt, Yaz, Anson, Bonds, B. Williams, Kiner, Killebrew, Rose, Gwynn, Kaline, Greenberg, Waner, R. Jackson, Boggs, Gehringer, Brouthers, Delahanty, Simmons, Mize, Brett, F. Robinson, Ashburn, Sisler, Snider, Banks, Molitor, Keeler, Bench, Terry, Henderson.

Gehrig------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR--Runs--RBI--TB---OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
Led league---1----1----1----4----2----4----4----2----4----2---0---3--3
2nd league---2----3----0----0----4----2----4----3----2----4---0---2--6
3rd----------3----0----0----1----3----3----2----2----3----1---0---3--3
4th----------0----1----0----0----1----2----2----0----0----3---0---0--0
5th----------2----1----0----0----1----0----0----1----1----0---0---0--0
6th----------1----0----1----0----1----0----0----1----0----0---0---1--0

Cobb--------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI-TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league--12---8----3----4----1---5---4---6----7----8----6---0--11
2nd-league---3---3----4----4----2---2---2---2----7----3----1---1---3
3rd----------1---3----4----2----2---2---1---2----0----3----2---0---1
4th----------2---0----0----1----0---1---0---1----0----1----3---1---1
5th----------1---0----0----1----0---2---1---0----1----0----0---1---0
6th----------2---0----2----0----0---0---0---0----0----0----0---0---0

Wagner-------BA--Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league----8---2----7----3----0---2---5----7---4----6----5---0--6
2nd league----2---2----1----3----1---2---2----1---1----3----0---0--2
3rd-----------0---5----3----2----0---2---2----4---2----2----2---0--2
4th-----------2---3----0----0----1---2---3----2---1----1----0---1--1
5th-----------1---1----1----0----2---1---1----2---2----0----0---0--0
6th-----------1---0----0----1----2---0---1----0---0----1----0---1--0

Hornsby-----BA---Hits-2B---3B--HR----R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league---8----4----4----2---2----5---4----7----9----9----0---3--12
2nd league---2----1----1----1---2----1---1----2----1----1----0---1---1
3rd----------1----1----1----1---3----0---2----0----1----1----0---0---0
4th----------1----3----4----0---1----2---0----0----0----1----0---2---0
5th----------0----0----0----0---5----0---0----0----0----1----0---0---0
6th----------0----0----0----1---1----0---1----1----1----0----0---2---1

Ruth---------BA---Hits-2B---3B---HR---R--RBI--TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1----0----1----0---12---8---6----6----9---13----0--11--13
2nd league----2----0----1----0----2---1---2--- 3----2----1----0---1---1
3rd-----------2----0----1----0----1---0---0----2----1----1----0---1---2
4th-----------1----3----0----0----0---0---3----0----2----0----0---0---0
5th-----------1----0----0----0----0---1---0----0----0----0----0---0---0
6th-----------0----2----1----1----0---1---1----0----0----0----0---0---0

Ted Williams--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----6----0----2---0---4---6----4----6---12---8---0---8--9
2nd in league--2----1----2---0---4---1----2----0----0---1---0---1--1
3rd------------1----2----0---0---2---1----1----4----0---1---0---2--3
4th------------1----1----2---0---0---1----1----0----0---2---0---0--0
5th------------0----4----0---0---0---0----1----0----0---0---0---1--0
6th------------0----0----0---0---3---0----0----0----1---0---0---1--0

Mickey Mantle--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------1----1----0---1---4----6----1----3---3---4---0---5--8
2nd in league---1----0----1---0---3----2----3----4---5---0---0---3--3
3rd-------------1----0----0---0---2----1----1----2---1---2---0---2--1
4th-------------2----2----0---1---0----0----0----1---2---0---2---0--0
5th-------------0----0----0---0---1----0----2----0---0---0---0---0--0
6th-------------0----0----0---1---0----1----3----0---1---1---0---1--0

Willie Mays----BA---Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------1----1----0---3----4---2----0----3---2---5---4---1--6
2nd in league---3----1----1---1----1---5----2----5---1---3---0---1--1
3rd-------------2----1----1---1----3---3----3----5---2---2---0---2--5
4th-------------0----0----0---0----1---0----2----1---1---2---1---1--2
5th-------------1----1----0---0----2---0----1----1---5---4---0---1--0
6th-------------1----2----2---0----2---2----2----0---1---0---0---3--1

Hank Aaron----BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----2---2----4---0---4----3----4---8---0---4---0---0--3
2nd in league--0---3----2---2---4----1----0---2---2---5---1---1--4
3rd------------0---1----1---0---1----4----2---2---3---4---0---2--4
4th------------3---0----1---2---2----2----2---2---1---1---2---2--1
5th------------4---0----0---0---2----1----1---0---2---1---0---0--1
6th------------0---3----1---0---2----1----1---1---1---2---2---0--2

Joe DiMaggio---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA--SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league------2---0----0---1---2---1----2----3---0----2---0---0--1
2nd in league---0---1----1---0---0---2----3----2---0----5---0---0--4
3rd-------------2---1----0---4---1---0----3----1---2----0---0---0--2
4th-------------0---2----1---0---5---0----1----1---3----0---0---0--0
5th-------------0---0----0---0---2---2----1----2---0----0---0---0--1
6th-------------0---1----1---0---1---1----1----0---0----1---0---0--0

Tris Speaker--BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league-----1---2----8---0---1---0----0----1---4---1---0---0--1
2nd in league--2---1----3---1---2---4----1----3---3---2---0---1--4
3rd------------7---2----1---1---0---2----1----2---4---4---1---0--5
4th------------2---4----0---0---2---2----2----3---3---4---1---4--3
5th------------1---2----0---0---0---0----0----1---1---2---3---2--3
6th------------1---0----1---1---0---2----0----0---0---1---1---3--0

Nap Lajoie---BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs--RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led league----3---4----5---0---1----1----3---4---2---4---0---0--3
2nd in league-3---0----4---1---0----1----1---2---2---3---0---0--3
3rd-----------1---1----1---0---1----0----2---0---1---2---0---0--0
4th-----------1---1----1---0---0----1----1---2---1---0---0---0--1
5th-----------0---1----0---0---0----0----1---0---1---0---0---0--0
6th-----------3---1----0---0---2----0----1---0---0---2---1---0--4

Stan Musial-BA--Hits-2B---3B--HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
Led league---7---6----8----5---0---5----2----6---6---6----0---1--6
2nd league---2---3----3----1---1---4----0----2---7---3----0---0--4
3rd----------5---2----1----1---1---4----3----1---0---0----0---2--0
4th----------2---1----0----2---1---1----2----2---2---3----0---2--3
5th----------1---0----0----1---1---1----2----2---0---1----0---2--0
6th----------0---0----2----0---1---0----0----1---1---0----0---0--1

Ed Collins--BA--Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
Led League---0---0----0---0----0---3----0---0----0---0---4---1--0
2nd league---3---2----0---1----0---1----0---0----3---0---4---5--1
3rd----------0---1----0---0----0---2----1---1----7---1---2---2--2
4th----------5---1----1---0----0---2----0---0----2---0---2---2--2
5th----------2---3----0---1----0---0----1---3----2---1---1---1--3
6th----------1---1----0---2----0---1----0---1----1---2---1---1--0

Crawford----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR---Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league---0----0----1---6---2----1----3----2---0---0---0---0--0
2nd league---4----5----4---3---2----1----4----6---0---4---0---0--2
3rd----------1----4----0---3---2----0----2----2---0---3---0---0--4
4th----------2----0----1---0---1----1----2----1---2---1---0---0--3
5th----------0----2----0---0---3----2----1----2---2---2---0---0--0
6th----------1----0----2---3---1----0----2----1---1---0---1---0--1

J.Jackson---BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league---0----2----1---3---0---0----0---2---1----1----0---0--0
2nd league---3----2----2---1---0---1----0---2---2----3----0---0--3
3rd league---2----2----2---2---1---2----1---1---0----1----0---1--2
4th----------2----2----0---1---0---1----4---1---3----2----0---0--1
5th----------0----0----0---0---1---0----0---0---1----2----0---0--3
6th----------0----0----0---0---0---1----0---0---0----0----1---0--0

Z. Wheat----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB---OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league---1----0----2---0---0---0----0---0----0----1----0---0--0
2nd league---1----3----2---0---0---0----0---0----0----0----0---0--1
3rd league---2----2----1---0---0---1----2---0----0----1----0---0--1
4th----------2----0----0---0---1---0----0---0----2----2----0---0--1
5th----------1----1----0---2---2---0----1---0----1----1----0---0--2
6th----------0----0----0---1---2---1----2---0----0----0----0---0--1

Edd Roush--BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league--2----0----1---1---1---0----0---1---0----1----0---0--1
2nd league--2----0----1---2---0---0----1---0---0----0----1---0--1
3rd league--1----3----0---3---0---0----1---0---1----1----0---0--2
4th---------1----1----0---1---1---0----0---1---1----1----1---0--1
5th---------1----1----0---0---0---2----0---1---1----0----0---0--0
6th---------0----1----0---0---0---0----1---2---1----1----1---0--1

J. Foxx-----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB--OPS+
led league---2-----0---0---0---4---1----3---3---3---5----0---2--5
2nd league---2-----1---0---0---3---2----0---1---3---1----0---1--2
3rd league---1-----2---0---0---2---1----3---0---3---2----0---3--0
4th----------0-----0---0---0---3---2----2---3---0---1----0---4--3
5th----------1-----0---0---0---0---1----0---1---2---2----0---0--1
6th----------0-----0---0---0---0---1----2---1---0---1----0---0--0

Clemente----BA---Hits-2B--3B---HR--Runs-RBI--TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league---4----2----0---1----0---0----0----0---0---0---0---0--0
2nd league---2----1----1---1----0---0----2----1---1---0---0---0--1
3rd league---1----1----0---2----0---0----0----1---0---1---0---0--1
4th----------2----1----0---1----0---2----0----0---1---0---0---0--0
5th----------1----1----1---4----0---0----0----1---0---1---0---0--0
6th----------0----1----2---1----0---0----0----0---3---1---0---0--1

Schmidt-----BA---Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league---0----0----0---0---8---1----4---3---3---5----0---4--6
2nd league---0----0----0---0---1---2----1---1---0---2----0---2--1
3rd league---0----0----0---0---2---6----4---0---0---2----0---3--2
4th----------1----0----0---0---1---0----0---1---3---3----0---3--1
5th----------0----0----0---0---0---0----0---4---1---0----0---0--1
6th----------0----0----0---0---1---1----0---0---0---0----0---1--0

Yaz----------BA---Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league----3----2---3---0---1----3----1---2---5---3----0---2--4
2nd league----2----0---1---0---0----1----0---0---1---0----0---3--1
3rd league----0----0---2---1---1----1----1---0---1---0----0---1--0
4th-----------0----2---0---0---1----1----0---2---0---1----0---1--0
5th-----------0----1---0---0---0----1----1---0---0---0----0---2--0
6th-----------0----1---1---0---0----0----0---2---0---0----0---0--1

Anson-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs--RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league--2----1----3--0---0-----0----8---1---4----0----0---1---1
2nd league--5----4----2--1---0-----0----3---2---5----4----0---1---2
3rd league--2----2----2--0---4-----0----3---2---1----1----0---1---1
4th---------1----0----2--0---1-----2----0---2---1----3----0---2---3
5th---------2----3----0--1---1-----2----0---0---2----1----0---0---3
6th---------0----0----1--0---0-----4----0---3---3----0----0---2---1

Bonds------BA---Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA--SLG--SB--BB-OPS+
led league--2----0----0--0---2---1----1---1---8----7----0--10---9
2nd league--0----0----0--0---5---3----1---0---3----1----0---4---3
3rd league--1----0----0--0---1---6----0---1---0----1----1---1---2
4th---------1----0----0--0---4---0----4---0---2----3----1---0---0
5th---------0----0----0--0---0---1----0---3---1----1----2---0---1
6th---------0----0----0--2---0---3----2---1---0----1----2---0---0

B. Williams--BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1---1----0--0---0---1----0---3---0---1---0---0--1
2nd league----0---0----1--1---2---0----3---1---1---0---0---0--0
3rd league----0---3----3--1---3---0----0---1---0---2---0---0--1
4th-----------2---0----1--0---1---1----0---1---0---1---0---0--0
5th-----------0---1----0--1---0---2----0---1---0---0---0---0--0
6th-----------0---1----0--0---1---0----0---0---0---1---0---1--0

Kiner-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league---0---0----0--0---7---1----1---1---1---3---0---3--0
2nd league---0---0----0--0---0---0----3---2---0---0---0---3--0
3rd league---0---0----0--0---0---1----1---0---2---1---0---0--0
4th league---1---0----0--0---0---1----0---2---0---2---0---1--2
5th----------1---0----0--0---1---1----1---0---0---0---0---0--0
6th----------0---1----0--0---0---0----1---0---2---0---0---1--0

Killebrew---BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---0---0----0--0---6----0----3---0---1---1---0---4---0
2nd league---0---0----0--0---2----1----2---2---1---3---0---1---1
3rd league---0---0----0--0---2----1----2---4---2---4---0---3---2
4th----------0---0----0--0---0----1----1---0---5---0---0---1---5
5th----------1---0----0--0---2----0----0---2---2---2---0---1---2
6th----------0---0----0--0---0----1----1---1---0---0---0---0---0

Rose--------BA-Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---3---7---5--0---0---4----0---0---1---0---0---0---0
2nd league---2---5---2--2---0---3----0---1---1---0---0---0---0
3rd league---0---1---4--0---0---3----0---1---3---0---0---0---0
4th----------1---1---0--0---0---1----0---1---1---0---0---2---0
5th----------1---2---2--2---0---1----0---1---1---0---0---2---0
6th----------0---0---0--1---0---0----0---1---0---0---0---1---1

Gwynn------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB---OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league--8---7----0--0---0----1----0---0----1---0---0---0--0
2nd league--1---0----1--3---0----0----0---0----2---0---1---0--0
3rd league--2---1----1--0---0----0----0---1----0---0---0---0--1
4th---------1---0----1--0---0----1----0---0----1---0---0---0--1
5th---------1---0----0--1---0----0----0---0----2---0---0---0--0
6th---------0---0----0--0---0----0----1---0----0---0---1---0--1

Kaline-----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs--RBI-TB---OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
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4th---------1----1---0--1---0----0----0---2----0---1---1---0---1
5th---------0----0---2--1---0----1----1---0----2---1---0---1---0
6th---------0----1---1--1---0----1----1---1----0---1---1---1---0

Greenberg---BA---Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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4th----------0----1----0--0---0----1---1---0---0---0---0---0--2
5th----------1----1----0--1---0----0---0---1---0---0---0---0--0
6th----------1----1----0--0---0----0---0---0---0---0---0---3--0

Waner-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---3---2----2--2---0---2----1---1---0---0---0---0---0
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5th----------1---0----0--0---0---0----0---3---1---2---0---0---0
6th----------0---2----1--0---0---1----0---1---2---0---0---0---1

R.Jackson----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league----0---0----0--0---4----2---1---0---0---3---0---0---4
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4th-----------0---0----0--0---1----0---1---1---1---0---0---1---1
5th-----------0---0----1--0---2----2---0---0---1---2---0---1---1
6th-----------0---0----0--0---0----0---3---0---2---1---0---0---1

Boggs--------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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2nd league---1----5----3--0---0---0----0---0---1---0---0---0--2
3rd league---2----0----2--0---0---1----0---0---1---1---0---3--0
4th----------1----2----1--0---0---0----0---1---1---0---0---0--2
5th----------2----0----0--0---0---1----0---1---0---0---0---2--0
6th----------0----0----0--0---0---1----0---0---1---0---0---0--1

Gehringer---BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR---Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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2nd league---1---2----2--1---0----1----0---0---2---0---1---0--0
3rd league---0---0----1--1---0----3----0---0---0---0---0---1--0
4th----------1---0----2--0---0----1----0---2---1---0---0---1--0
5th----------2---3----0--1---0----2----1---0---1---0---0---2--0
6th----------0---0----0--0---0----0----0---4---1---0---0---1--1

Brouthers----BA--Hits-2B--3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----5---3----3---1---2----2---2---4---5---7---0---0--8
2nd league----1---2----2---4---1----0---2---2---5---3---0---0--1
3rd league----2---1----1---2---2----1---1---1---0---0---0---0--2
4th-----------1---1----2---1---0----0---1---1---1---0---0---2--0
5th-----------1---2----0---1---2----1---1---0---1---0---0---0--0
6th-----------0---0----1---0---0----0---1---3---0---0---0---0--0

Delahanty----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1---1----5--1---2---0----3---2---2---5---1---0--4
2nd league----3---1----3--0---0---0----2---2---1---2---0---0--3
3rd league----2---1----2--2---1---1----1---2---2---1---0---0--1
4th-----------2---2----1--0---2---1----0---1---0---1---0---2--1
5th-----------0---1----0--0---1---2----1---0---2---1---0---0--1
6th-----------2---0----0--2---0---0----0---0---0---0---0---2--1

Mize---------BA-Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league----1---0---1--1---4---1----3---3---0---4---0---0---2
2nd league----2---0---1--0---2---1----1---4---2---3---0---0---5
3rd league----0---3---1--2---1---2----3---0---1---2---0---2---2
4th-----------0---0---0--0---1---0----0---0---1---0---0---0---0
5th-----------3---1---0--1---1---1----1---0---2---0---0---1---0
6th-----------0---2---0--0---0---1----0---0---0---0---0---1---0

Brett-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---3---3----2--3---0----0---0---1---3---3---0---0---3
2nd league---2---0----2--1---0----1---1---2---1---0---0---0---0
3rd league---0---0----2--0---0----1---0---0---1---0---0---1---0
4th----------0---0----1--1---0----1---0---1---1---1---0---0---0
5th----------0---1----1--1---0----1---1---1---0---1---0---0---2
6th----------2---0----0--2---0----0---1---0---1---2---0---0---0

F.Robinson---BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1---0----1--0---1----3---1---1---2---4---0---0--4
2nd league----2---2----0--0---2----2---4---1---6---1---0---1--1
3rd league----1---1----3--1---3----0---2---1---0---0---1---1--1
4th-----------1---0----1--0---3----1---0---3---3---5---1---2--1
5th-----------1---0----0--0---2----2---1---0---0---1---0---1--7
6th-----------2---1----2--0---1----1---0---1---0---1---1---0--1

Ashburn-----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---2---3----0--2---0---0----0---0---4---0---1---4---0
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3rd league---0---0----0--0---0---0----0---0---1---0---0---1---0
4th----------0---0----1--1---0---1----0---0---1---0---1---0---0
5th----------0---1----1--3---0---2----0---0---1---0---2---1---1
6th----------2---3----0--0---0---2----0---0---0---0---2---1---0

Sisler-------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----2---2----0--2---0---1----0---2---0---0---4---0--0
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3rd league----2---3----1--1---0---0----0---1---1---0---0---0--2
4th-----------2---3----1--0---0---1----1---1---0---2---0---0--1
5th-----------0---0----0--0---0---0----0---3---1---2---1---0--1
6th-----------0---0----0--0---0---0----2---0---1---0---1---0--1

Snider------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB--OPS+
led league---0----1---0--0---1----3---1---3---1---2---0---1---1
2nd league---0----1---2--0---1----1---1---1---1---2---0---0---1
3rd league---2----1---2--2---1----0---1---0---2---0---0---1---2
4th----------1----0---0--0---1----1---1---0---0---1---0---1---0
5th----------1----0---0--0---0----0---0---3---0---1---1---1---0
6th----------0----0---0--0---1----1---1---0---0---1---1---1---1

Simmons-----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league---2---2----0--0---0----1---1---2---0---0---0---0--0
2nd league---2---0----2--0---1----2---2---2---0---3---0---0--0
3rd league---1---3----0--0---2----0---2---1---0---3---0---0--2
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5th----------0---0----0--0---3----0---2---1---0---2---0---0--1
6th----------0---0----0--1---1----0---1---0---1---0---0---0--1

Banks--------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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4th-----------0---1----1--0---1---0----1---0---0---1---0---0--1
5th-----------0---0----1--1---0---0----1---0---0---2---0---0--2
6th-----------1---0----0--0---1---0----1---1---0---0---0---0--0

Bench------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league--0---0----0--0---2---0----3---1---0---0---0---0--0
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5th---------0---0----0--0---0---0----0---0---0---1---0---0--0
6th---------0---0----1--0---0---0----0---0---0---0---0---0--0

Molitor-----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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3rd league---1---2----0--0---0---0----0---0---0---0---1---0--1
4th----------1---2----0--0---0---1----0---1---0---0---2---0--0
5th----------2---1----0--0---0---0----0---0---0---1---0---0--0
6th----------3---0----0--0---0---0----0---0---0---0---2---0--1

Terry--------BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
led league----1---1----0--1---0---1----0---0---0---0---0---0--0
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3rd league----0---1----1--1---1---0----1---0---0---1---0---0--0
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5th-----------0---0----1--1---0---0----2---0---2---1---0---0--1
6th-----------1---0----0--0---0---2----1---0---0---0---0---0--0

Keeler-----BA---Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG-SB--BB-OPS+
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5th---------1----1----0--0---0----1---0---1---0---0---1---0--0
6th---------1----0----0--1---0----1---0---2---1---0---0---0--0

Henderson----BA--Hits-2B-3B--HR--Runs-RBI-TB--OBA-SLG--SB-BB--OPS+
led league----0---1----0--0---0----5---0---0---1---0---12--4---1
2nd league----1---0----0--1---0----1---0---0---2---1----0--2---1
3rd league----0---0----0--0---0----1---0---0---6---0----0--1---0
4th-----------2---0----0--0---0----3---0---0---1---0----2--5---0
5th-----------0---0----0--0---0----1---0---0---2---0----1--0---0
6th-----------0---0----0--0---1----0---0---1---1---0----2--1---0

leecemark; October 30, 2004, 08:01 AM
--Congratulations to Lou Gehrig for his easy and well deserved win here. Foxx was just as easy a second place winner. The big question was who is the third best firstbaseman of all time and our group selected Hank Greenberg for that spot. The most debated issue was whether George Sisler was an all time great or an all time overrated player. The majority here tended to vote closer to great than overrated, as Sisler was voted into the 5th slot. Here are the top 10.

1. Lou Gehrig 129
2. Jimmie Foxx 115
3. Hank Greenberg 67.5
4. Johnny Mize 60
5. George Sisler 50
6. Jeff Bagwell 37
7. Willie McCovey 36
8. Frank Thomas 35.5
9. Mark McGwire 35
10. Dan Brouthers 32

--I was surprised by the lack of support for Eddie Murray who has better counting numbers than pretty much all these guys. Of course, he wasn't quite as good at his peak as any of them and nowhere near as good as some of them. I also was surprised by Harmon Killebrew's low vote totals. He is pretty similar to the McCovey, Thomas, McGwire group and probably more consistent over the course of his career than any of them. Also, while Killebrew wasn't a great defender, he was probably the best of that group (maybe the best baserunner too, although that is a dubious distinction here).
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538280; October 29, 07:05 AM
The results are now in. We had 18 ballots, and Lou Gehrig was a near unanimous #1 with 17 first place votes (there was also one first place vote for George Sisler). After the automatic two of Gehrig and Foxx, Frank Thomas claimed the #3 spot, and was closely followed by Jeff Bagwell at #4. Here are the final results (first place votes in parenthesis):

1. Lou Gehrig-213 (17)
2. Jimmie Foxx-159
3. Frank Thomas-96
4. Jeff Bagwell-94
5. Hank Greenberg-79
6. Eddie Murray-54
7. Johnny Mize-53
8. Willie McCovey-51
9. George Sisler-40 (1)
10. Cap Anson-28
11. Buck Leonard-23
12. Harmon Killebrew-20

No one else received more than 20 points. I'll now get the second basemen poll up.
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Bill Burgess; April 22, 2007, 02:45 PM

1. Lou Gehrig - 150 points
2. Jimmy Foxx - 141
3. Jeff Bagwell - 98
4. Hank Greenberg - 65
5. Johnny Mize - 57
6. Willie McCovey - 53
7. Frank Thomas - 53
8. George Sisler - 42
9. Cap Anson - 32
10. Eddie Murray - 25
11. Harmon Killebrew - 24
12. Dan Brouthers - 20
13. Bill Terry - 15
14. Mark McGwire - 12
15. Dick Allen - 7
16. Roger Connor - 4
17. Jake Beckley - 4
18. Rafael Palmeiro - 2
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Greatest Hitter series, conducted by Bill Burgess, ending November 4, 2007, 08:05 AM

1. Babe Ruth---------68 votes - 95.77%
1. Ted Williams-------68 - 95.77%
3. Ty Cobb-----------52 - 73.24%
4. Rogers Hornsby----36 - 50.70%
5. Lou Gehrig---------32 - 45.07%
6. Barry Bonds
7. Mickey Mantle
8. Stan Musial
9. Hank Aaron
10. Willie Mays
11. Jimmy Foxx
12. Honus Wagner
13. Frank Thomas
14. Tris Speaker
15. Frank Robinson
16. Joe DiMaggio
17. Joe Jackson
18. Josh Gibson
19. Nap Lajoie
20. Mel Ott
21. Oscar Charleston
22. Alexander Rodriguez
23. Dan Brouthers
24. Mike Schmidt
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Top OPS+ seasons of some prominent 1Bmen. (Minimum 500 PA, except for pre-1900, due to fewer games/season.)

Lou Gehrig........221, 208, 203, 195, 194, 190 Average: 202
Dan Brouthers.....206, 201, 199, 189, 187, 182 Average: 194
Jimmie Foxx........205, 200, 188, 186, 182, 182 Average: 191
Frank Thomas.....212, 181, 180, 178, 178, 177 Average: 184
Mark McGwire......217, 203, 178, 175, 168, 164 Average: 184
Cap Anson..........200, 191, 180, 178, 176, 176 Average: 183 (fewer games due to era)
Roger Connor......201, 185, 184, 176, 171, 168 Average: 181
Willie McCovey....211, 182, 175, 165, 161, 160 Average: 176
Dick Allen...........200, 181, 174, 166, 165, 162 Average: 175
Jeff Bagwell........213, 179, 169, 168, 158, 152 Average: 173
Albert Pujols.......189, 180, 175, 167, 158, 155 Average: 170
Johnny Mize.......178, 176, 175, 172, 161, 160 Average: 170
Hank Greenberg..172, 170, 170, 169, 163, 156 Average: 166
Harmon Killebrew.179, 174, 161, 161, 158, 153 Average: 164
George Sisler......181, 170, 161, 157, 154, 140 Average: 161
Bill Terry............158, 156, 149, 141, 137, 135 Average: 146
Ted Kluszewski....166, 147, 145, 142, 132, 124 Average: 142
Gil Hodges..........143, 142, 141, 138, 128, 126 Average: 136
------------------------------------------------------------------
Lou Gehrig - 154.0 - 2 SLG. titles - 9954 PA - 179 OPS+ - Rel. ISO - 230. Ave. held up well, of course due to lack of decline phase, hence low PA. Only won 2 titles.
Jimmie Foxx - 143.7 - 5 SLG. titles - 9,599 PA - 163 OPS+ - Rel. ISO - 214. Too few PA relative to Aaron/Mays
----------------------
...............OPS+....EqA.....BRAR....BRAR/650 PA
Gehrig........179....345......1219.......82.02
Brouthers.....170....324.......780........66.21
Pujols..........171....343.......515........82.41
Foxx...........163.....327......1012........68.02
F.Thomas....160.....342......1146.......81.31
D.Allen........156.....325.......801........71.19
McCovey.....148.....318.......960........64.42
-------------------------------------------------
Relative ISO:

Lou Gehrig: 230
Mark McGwire: 223
Hank Greenberg: 220
Jimmy Foxx: 214
Johnny Mize 209
Dick Allen: 198
Willie McCovey: 192
Harmon Killebrew: 190
Albert Pujols: 182 (6 seasons)
Frank Howard 175
Frank Thomas: 169
Rafael Palmeiro: 149
Eddie Murray: 138
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Relative ISO: Some Pre-1920 hitters:

Dan Brouthers 178
Roger Connor 172
Cap Anson 121

All-Time list for OPS+ (baseball-Reference)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/OPSplus_career.shtml

Relative Stats Chart:
http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=314298&postcount=161
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Courtesy of David Kent. Here is a list of the top 100 sluggers of all time based on relative isolated power (min 5000 AB). The values are league adjusted but not park adjusted. (NB: If someone has park factor values for average and slugging, I would love to see it.)

Player AB Slg Avg ISO Rel ISO
-------------------------------------------------------
Lou Gehrig 8001 0.632 0.340 0.292 227.6
Hank Greenberg 5193 0.605 0.313 0.292 223.1
Mark McGwire 6187 0.588 0.263 0.325 217.1
Jimmie Foxx 8134 0.609 0.325 0.284 215.6
Johnny Mize 6443 0.562 0.312 0.250 209.8
Dick Allen 6332 0.534 0.292 0.242 199.2
Willie McCovey 8197 0.515 0.270 0.245 192.3
Harmon Killebrew 8147 0.509 0.256 0.252 190.8
Dan Brouthers 6711 0.519 0.342 0.177 181.2
Frank Howard 6488 0.499 0.273 0.225 175.3
Roger Connor 7794 0.486 0.317 0.169 171.6
Frank Thomas 6851 0.567 0.308 0.259 168.3
Norm Cash 6705 0.488 0.271 0.217 165.2
Cecil Fielder 5157 0.482 0.255 0.227 157.6
Jeff Bagwell 7697 0.542 0.297 0.245 157.6
Jim Bottomley 7471 0.500 0.310 0.191 156.2
Boog Powell 6681 0.462 0.266 0.196 153.9

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Gehrig on Video, Farewell speech, Ruth (a few swings, hugs Gehrig), McCarthy, Dizzy Dean (1 pitch) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Akxduexqug)

Lou Gehrig, Yankees' 1B, Yankee Stadium, September 23, 1936---BB Ref (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gehrilo01.shtml)
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Lou Gehrig, October 5, 1937--------------------------- ----1927 Yankee S, -------------------------------------same shot, a moment later
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Source: One Hundred Years: New York Yankees: The Official Retrospective, edited by Mark Vancil / Mark Mandrake, 202, pp. 52.

----------Lou Gehrig, Yankees' 1B, 1927-30, Yankee S.
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Source: Right: The Story of the World Series, by Frederick G. Lieb, 1949/1965, pp. 150.

----------------------1925-30,-------------------------------------1939, Yankee Stadium
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------------[B]It Was the Best of Times
Lou Gehrig / Hank Greenberg, 1935 Yankee Stadium---Lou Gehrig video (http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/3482/gehriggiffk9.gif)
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Source: Left: The History of Baseball: Its Great Players, Teams and Managers, edited by Allison Danzig/Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 82.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------It Was the Worst of Times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Lou Hangs them up. 1939 Yankee S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Peering Dimly into a murky crystal ball. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------When Lou benched himself, he was still -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------35 yrs. old. Got sick when 33 (1937).
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mwiggins

11-30-2006, 04:21 PM

Myankee4life

11-30-2006, 06:47 PM

You wont find many offensive lists that doesn't have Gehrig's name near the top.

Lou Gehrig, exhibition game, Brooklyn 1927.
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Lou Gehrig Day at the 1939 NY World's Fair, August 9, 1939. -------------------------------------------------------------July 8, 1927.
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Mother Christina, Lou, wife Eleanor, Father Henry.-----------------------------------------------1939
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----------------------------------------------------1939
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pfairban

12-03-2006, 05:17 PM

I tried to do a Gerhig post on one of the "all time greatest" polls that didn't have him but had all kinds of 2nd rate guys (imho). I don't think it stuck, so here's the gist:

Looking at Gerhig's basically 13 year career, it's very easy to argue that he's one of the top 5 hitters of all time, better than Williams, Hornsby, Aaron, and Mays. He had 13 consecutive years with more than 100 runs, rbis, and runs created. He had over 200 hits 8 times and over 400 total bases 5 times. He batter over 370 three times and had a slg over 700 three times (in seasons where it mattered). He has the 3rd, 4th, and 5th highest slg, obp, and ops+. He's probably my favorite Yankee, even if he wasn't the best (Ruth was, of course).

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1939: Lefty Gomez, Lou Gehrig, Jimmie Foxx.
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August 8, 1935: Lou Gehrig/Blondy Ryan
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Myankee4life

12-03-2006, 05:32 PM

Good luck convincing Gehrig of being a better hitter than Ted Williams. Although I personally wish that to be true.

Lou Gehrig, Yankees' 1B, 1927,---BB-Reference (http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gehrilo01.shtml)-------------------------------------------------------------same shot, moment later.
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pfairban

12-03-2006, 05:57 PM

Good luck convincing Gehrig of being a better hitter than Ted Williams. Although I personally wish that to be true.

Since I have not made it my mission in life to convince anyone of this, I will just point back to my last thread. Put Gerhig's percentage numbers and actual numbers up against Williams and you will say "how in the world could I have ranked Williams ahead of Gerhig?"

Myankee4life

12-03-2006, 05:59 PM

538280

12-03-2006, 06:06 PM

Since I have not made it my mission in life to convince anyone of this, I will just point back to my last thread. Put Gerhig's percentage numbers and actual numbers up against Williams and you will say "how in the world could I have ranked Williams ahead of Gerhig?"

Raw numbers, raw numbers, raw numbers. As it is, even with no war credit, Williams played more games than Gehrig and he has a higher OPS+. Give Williams war credit and not only do his rates go up, but he also has a huge career value edge on Gehrig as well. It is not close.

pfairban

12-03-2006, 06:37 PM

Raw numbers, raw numbers, raw numbers. As it is, even with no war credit, Williams played more games than Gehrig and he has a higher OPS+. Give Williams war credit and not only do his rates go up, but he also has a huge career value edge on Gehrig as well. It is not close.

Williams' career basically breaks down like this: 7 phenomenal years, 10 years with great percentages but not much production. Gerhig has two slow years when he starts, 13 phenomenal years which are better production wise and equal percentage wise to Williams, and then two years of decline. 13 phenomenal years vs. 7 phenomenal years. I agree, it is not close!

DoubleX

12-03-2006, 08:36 PM

As much as I like Gehrig, I can't put him ahead of Williams. IMO, Williams is the only one who can battle Ruth for greatest hitter ever. Gehrig, however, has a strong case for third.

I find both Williams and Gehrig fascinating because of their great talent and all the numbers that they might have put up if circumstances were different. Williams lost nearly 5 prime years because of the war, and if he played those years, assuming he was mostly healthy and had the desire to play until 1960 as he did in reality, his counting numbers across the board would be phenomenal.

Gehrig on the otherhand, had his last healthy year at age 34 in 1937 and showed no signs of letting up. If Gehrig did not get sick and played until he was 39 or 40, with a healthy 1938 and 1939 and a normal decline, his counting numbers would also be phenomenal across the board and I believe he would still to this day be the all time leader in RBI and Runs by a healthy margin.

LGehrigFan

12-04-2006, 07:39 AM

If you couldn't tell, Lou is my favorite player ever. Though I'm not here to argue if he's better than Player A or Player B.

I will say that Lou probably possesses the greatest "intangibles" that make up a player. 2,130 consecutive games played with fingers broken and while being beaned in the head; was the team's greatest captain especially while being overshadowed by Ruth and DiMaggio; played early enough with Cobb, Ruth and the Deadball Era's legends and late enough with the likes of DiMaggio and Williams (or they played with him =P); lead his team to a solid 6 World Series; and was partly responsible for creating the greatest franchise in sports history. He's my hero:

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What the ol' gang did when they were bored of winning World Series and hitting home runs.

Myankee4life

12-04-2006, 01:42 PM

From LouGehrig.com

ACHIEVEMENTS

Hit four home runs in one game on June 3, 1932.

Won the Triple Crown in 1934 when he led the American League in batting average (.363), home runs (49) and runs batted in (165).

Holds the record for most grand slams in a career with 23.

Hit 493 home runs in his career, setting the record for the most home runs hit by any first baseman in history until Mark McGwire recently hit 500.

Became the only player in history to drive in more than 500 runs in three years. He ushered in 174 runs in 1930, 184 in 1931 and 151 in 1932, for a total of 509.

His amazing total of 184 RBI's in a single season (1931) is first In American League history and second in baseball history (behind Hack Wilson's 190 RBI's with the Chicago Cubs).

Set a record by playing in a consecutive streak of 2,130 professional baseball games throughout his career, despite 17 fractures in his hands, being beaned several times, having severe back pain and suffering various other illnesses and minor injuries. Gehrig's record stood until Cal Ripken, Jr. broke it in 1995.

Became the first athlete to have his number retired. Upon his retirement from baseball in 1939, the New York Yankees retired his No. 4 jersey. Today, the practice of retiring jerseys numbers is carried out in most sports.

Was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1939. In light of his progressive illness, the usual two-year waiting period after a player retires was waived in Gehrig's case.

In 1955, Gehrig's Columbia fraternity Phi Delta Theta established the Lou Gehrig Memorial Award. Each year, it is awarded to the Major League player who best exemplifies Gehrig's character and attitude.

In 2002, the Rhode Island chapter of the ALS Association established "The Spirit of Lou Gehrig Award." This award honors community leaders who have displayed compassion and commitment to those who suffer from ALS, also commonly known as Lou Gehrig's disease.

Myankee4life

12-04-2006, 01:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Gehrig

Career Highlights
AL MVP 1927, 1936
Led the league in batting av 1934 (49) & 1936 (49)
Led the league in RBIs: 1927 (175), 1928 (142), 1930 (174), 1931 (184) & 1934 (165)
Led the league in times on base: 1927 (330), 1930 (324), 1931 (328), 1934 (321), 1936 (342) & 1937 (331)
Career batting average: .340

Major League Baseball career records
Grand slams: 23
Runs batted in by a first baseman: 1,995
Consecutive seasons, 120+ RBI: 8 (1927-1934)
Seasons, 100+ RBI: 13 (1926-1938; tied with Babe Ruth and Jimmie Foxx)
Consecutive seasons, 100+ RBI: 13 (1926-1938; tied with Jimmie Foxx)
Runs scored by a first baseman: 1,888
Highest on-base percentage by a first baseman: .442
Most bases on balls by a first baseman: 1,508
Highest slugging percentage by a first baseman: .632
Most extra base hits by a first baseman: 1190

Major League Baseball single season records
Runs-batted-in by a first baseman: 184 (1931; also the American League record)
Runs scored by a first baseman: 167 (1936)
Highest slugging percentage by a first baseman: .765 (1927)
Extra Base Hits, by a first baseman: 117 (1927)
Most total bases by a first baseman: 447 (1927)

Major League Baseball single game records
Home Runs: 4 (June 3, 1932, vs. Philadelphia Athletics, at Shibe Park) (held with 14 other players)

Awards
Inducted to National Baseball Hall of Fame: 1939
League MVP: 1927 (award discontinued, and usually not considered a true MVP award)
American League MVP: 1936 (voted on by Baseball Writers Association of America; runner-up in voting for this award in 1931 and 1932)
Named to seven All-Star teams (1933-1939). (All-Star Game began in 1933)
Ranked #6 on The Sporting News' list of the 100 Greatest Baseball Players, chosen in 1999.
Named starting first baseman on the Major League Baseball All-Century Team (1999) - Gehrig got more votes for the team than any other player
July 4, 1939 farewell speech is voted by fans as the fifth greatest moment in Major League Baseball history in 2002. The number one moment is Cal Ripken, Jr. breaking Lou Gehrig's consecutive games played record

Distinctions
Triple crown of hitting in 1934 (.363 batting average, 49 home runs, 165 RBI)
Only player in history to collect 400 total bases in five seasons (1927, 1930, 1931, 1934, 1936)
With Stan Musial, the only player to collect at least 500 doubles, 150 triples, and 400 home runs in a career
One of only six players (Babe Ruth, Jimmie Foxx, Joe DiMaggio, Stan Musial, and Ted Williams) to end their career with a minimum .320 batting average, 350 home runs, and 1,500 RBI
Only player to hit 40 doubles and 40 home runs in the same season in three different seasons (1927, 1930, 1934)
Played in 27 World Series games
Scored game-winning run in 8 World Series games
Hit a MLB record 23 grand slam home runs in his career
The first Major League Baseball player to have his uniform number retired
Held the record for most consecutive games played from August 17, 1933 (passing Everett Scott with 1,308) until September 6, 1995 (when Cal Ripken played in his 2,131st consecutive game)
Had 13 consecutive seasons (1926-1938) with 100 or more RBI

Myankee4life

12-04-2006, 02:09 PM

The Farewell Speech

"Fans, for the past two weeks you have been reading about a bad break I got. Yet today, I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the earth. I have been in ballparks for seventeen years and I have never received anything but kindness and encouragement from you fans. Look at these grand men. Which of you wouldn't consider it the highlight of his career just to associate with them for even one day? Sure I'm lucky. Who wouldn't have considered it an honor to have known Jacob Ruppert? Also, the builder of baseball's greatest empire, Ed Barrows? To have spent six years with that wonderful little fellow, Miller Huggins? Then to have spent the next nine years with that outstanding leader, that smart student of psychology, the best manager in baseball today, Joe McCarthy? Sure, I'm lucky. When the New York Giants, a team you would give your right arm to beat and vice versa, sends you a gift, that's something. When everybody down to the groundskeeper and those boys in white coats remember you with trophies, that's something. When you have a father and mother work all their lives so that you can have an education and build your body, it's a blessing. When you have a wife who has been a tower of strength and shown more courage than you dreamed existed, that's the finest I know. I consider myself the luckiest man on the face of the Earth. And I might have been given a bad break, but I've got an awful lot to live for." - July 4, 1939 at Yankee Stadium on Lou Gehrig Appreciation Day

Myankee4life

12-04-2006, 02:16 PM

Baseball-almanac.com

Quotations About Lou Gehrig

"(Lou) Gehrig had one advantage over me. He was a better ballplayer." - Gil Hodges

"(Lou) Gehrig never learned that a ballplayer couldn't be good every day." - Hank Gowdy

"Gifted with no flair whatever for the spectacular, except as it might be produced by the solid crash of bat against ball at some tense moment, lost in the honey days of a ballplayer's career in the white glare of the great spotlight that followed Babe Ruth, he nevertheless more than packed his share of the load." - Sportswriter Bill Corum of the Journal American

"He just went out and did his job every day." - Hall of Famer Bill Dickey

"He was the guy who hit all those home runs the year (Babe) Ruth broke the record." - Franklin P. Adams

"His greatest record doesn't show in the book. It was the absolute reliability of Henry Louis Gehrig. He could be counted upon. He was there every day at the ballpark bending his back and ready to break his neck to win for his side. He was there day after day and year after year. He never sulked or whined or went into a pot or a huff. He was the answer to a manager's dream." - Sportswriter John Kieran in The New York Times

"I did not go there to look at (Lou) Gehrig. I did not even know what position he played, but he played in the outfield against Rutgers and socked a couple of balls a mile. I sat up and took notice. I saw a tremendous youth, with powerful arms and terrific legs. I said, here is a kid who can't miss." - Yankee scout Paul Krichell

"I had him for over eight years and he never gave me a moment's trouble. I guess you might say he was kind of my favorite." - Hall of Fame manager Joe McCarthy

"I'm very pleased and very proud of my accomplishments, but I'm most proud of that (hitting four-hundred home runs and three-thousand hits). Not (Ted) Williams, not (Lou) Gehrig, not (Joe) DiMaggio did that. They were Cadillacs and I'm a Chevrolet." - Carl Yastrzemski

"I never heard of (Lou) Gehrig before I came here and I always thought Babe Ruth was a cartoon character. I really did. I mean, I wasn't born until 1961 and I grew up in Indiana." - Yankee legend Don Mattingly (1985)

"I never knew how someone dying could say he was the luckiest man in the world. But now I understand." - Hall of Famer Mickey Mantle farewell address (1969)

"It has been aptly said that while (Babe) Ruth was the Home Run King, (Lou) Gehrig was the Crown Prince. Joe DiMaggio must therefore have been heir apparent." - Hall of Fame manager Connie Mack

"It may have been a child's perversity, but I like to think now that I was in tune with changing times when I selected not the Babe (Ruth), but (Lou) Gehrig as my hero. Handsome, shy, put together along such rugged lines that he was once screen-tested - wrapped in a leopard skin - in Hollywood for the role of Tarzan, a devastating hitter with men on base, Gehrig served perfectly as the idol of a small boy soon to reach adolescence." - Frank Graham in Farewell to Heroes (1981)

"I took the two most expensive aspirins (he was the starter, had a headache, and sat out to let (Lou) Gehrig play game one of "the streak") in history." - Wally Pipp

"I would not have traded two minutes of the joy and the grief with that man for two decades of anything with another." - Eleanor Gehrig

"Lou Gehrig was a guy who could really hit the ball, was dependable and seemed so durable that many of us thought he could have played forever." - George Selkirk

"Lou Gehrig was to baseball what Gary Cooper was to the movies: a figure of unimpeachable integrity, massive and incorruptible, a hero. Today, both are seen as paradigms of manly virtue. Decent and God-fearing, yet strongly charismatic and powerful." - Kevin Nelson in The Greatest Stories Ever Told About Baseball (1986)

"Lou (Gehrig) was the kind of boy that if you had a son, he's the kind of person you'd like your son to be." - Yankee Sam Jones

"Mr. Barrow, there is only one answer to that, Mr. (Lou) Gehrig (contract was only one-thousand dollars more) is terribly underpaid." - Hall of Famer Joe DiMaggio

"So they unhitched the Iron Horse from the old wagon, but Marse Joe McCarthy didn't order him to be taken behind the barn and destroyed." - Sportswriter John Kieran in The New York Times

"There was absolutely no reason to dislike him, and nobody did." - Sportswriter Fred Lieb

"They didn't get along. Lou (Gehrig) thought (Babe) Ruth was a big-mouth and Ruth thought Gehrig was cheap. They were both right." - Teammate Tony Lazzeri

"Whatever Lou (Gehrig) does in the future doesn't count. He has had fourteen great seasons, and I mean great. If I could have only ten of them, I'd be satisfied. Here's a fellow who has lasted 'til he's thirty-six, and only this morning I was wondering, and me twenty-four, how long I'll last. Say, if I could go ten more years, 'til I'm thirty-four, I'd be glad to call it a career." - Hall of Famer Joe DiMaggio

"Whether your name is (Lou) Gehrig or (Cal) Ripken, (Joe) DiMaggio or (Jackie) Robinson, or that of some youngster who picks up his bat or puts on his glove, you are challenged by the game of baseball to do your very best day in and day out. That's all I've ever tried to do." - (Cal) Ripken, Jr.

torez77

12-04-2006, 08:30 PM

Sultan_1895-1948

12-04-2006, 10:31 PM

It's ironic that when he played Lou was almost a forgotten man overshadowed by Babe, but sixty-plus years later he overshadowed Babe in the voting for the All-Century Team, as he logged almost 50,000 more votes. His disease garnered him sympathy, and also reminded people of how great a ballplayer he was.

Lou is without a doubt the greatest 1Bman ever, and there's really no close second IMO. Foxx is #2, but he's far behind Gehrig.

In all fairness, that probably has a lot to do with him being the only clear-cut choice at first base. Impressive nonetheless.

One of my favorite quotes about Lou came from Babe, speaking in the locker room, after he hit his 60th homer in '27...

"Will I ever break this again? I don't know and don't care. But if I don't, I know who will. Wait 'til that bozo over there (pointing across the room to Lou) gets waded into them again and they may forget that a guy named Ruth ever lived."
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Gehrig was on a tear with Ruth that year until Babe pulled away. Babe may not have pulled away. Gehrig may have just slowed way down. Fred Lieb speculated that his late season funk was due to him worrying about his mothers health. She had developed an inflammation of the thyroid and needed surgery. Lou was quoted as saying, "I'm so worried about Mom, that I can't see straight."
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"I had watched Lou Gehrig hit down in St. Petersburg and I couldn't see how there ever could have been a more powerful batter, including Babe Ruth, whom I had never seen, and I couldn't understand how so great a hitter could be taken so matter of factly by the rest of the squad and by the sports writers." - Joe DiMaggio
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"Why, this game is a continuous vacation for me. Look what hit has done for me. I'm fixed financially, and I've been playing only a triffle more than ten years. How many big business men in other professions are able to retire with their nest egg after working ten years? Not many, I tell you.
I don't know how much longer I can keep adding to my record, but I hope to add at least seven mroe seasons to my career. I'm thirty-three, and let's see - seven more years will make me forty years old. Gee, I hope Mr. Ruppert is still owner of the Yanks when I roll around to forty and he wants me to keep on playing for these Yankees." - Lou Gehrig, 1936 interview with Sid Keener

torez77

12-04-2006, 10:44 PM

In all fairness, that probably has a lot to do with him being the only clear-cut choice at first base.

Well, yeah. But I just thought I'd point out that the general baseball's public view of him now and since his death is much different than it was when he played.

Thanks for the interesting quotes.

Brian McKenna

12-05-2006, 10:29 AM

Well, yeah. But I just thought I'd point out that the general baseball's public view of him now and since his death is much different than it was when he played.

Thanks for the interesting quotes.

How so? Gehrig was a terror in the box from Day 1. New York had a million newspaper editions a day. He was adored and respected for his abilities - especially by pitchers who look at line drive hitters with extreme caution.

Legends always grow, especially those cut down while still productive.

Mariano_Rivera

12-08-2006, 07:52 AM

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Mariano_Rivera

12-08-2006, 07:58 AM

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Mariano_Rivera

12-08-2006, 08:04 AM

http://theangelfund.org/images/lou_large.jpg

Mariano_Rivera

12-09-2006, 04:11 AM

---Lou Gehrig

Mariano_Rivera

12-09-2006, 04:11 AM

---Lou Gehrig

Mariano_Rivera

12-09-2006, 04:15 AM

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Mariano_Rivera

12-09-2006, 04:16 AM

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Mariano_Rivera

12-09-2006, 02:37 PM

Here's a few Gehrig movies on Youtube:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DUthTokBT1M

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yCnwIcWf_0c

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m_MDj5Tjj5A
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Myankee4life:
The first video is quite nice.

Good Job RH..
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ThanksThanks :) :) :)

PepperMartin

12-09-2006, 03:14 PM

I have the great privilege of having Lou Gehrig's autograph (along with the full Yankees and Indians lineups from a game in 1937 or 1938 that my grandfather attended as a kid).

He is among my favourite players of all time, not only because of his talent but because of his humility, kindness and civility. One of the few great ballplayers of that era who didn't drink and party himself half to death.

It was therefore sadly ironic that his career was cut short after his perseverance and taking good care of himself.

Is he the best player of all time? Not a chance. But the best RBI machine of all time, no doubt. He remains 3rd all time in RBI's in the modern era, despite having less than 10,000 plate appearances.

The fact that Barry Bonds may pass him this year is almost as tragic as the prospect of him reaching 755 homeruns.
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Rickey_Henderson:
My grandfather once had a ball autographed by Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig but he ruined it when he played with it. He has rued the day ever since.
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pfairban

12-11-2006, 04:51 PM

Mariano_Rivera

12-11-2006, 04:55 PM

I was just bumping around at baseball almanac and looked at their "runs produced" all-time seasons page. Lou was the man (lowercase m), he had three seasons in the top ten. What a stud. I think I counted 9 in the top 100.

What is that RBI's plus Runs scored?
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pfairban:
Minus home runs.
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Myankee4life

12-11-2006, 06:15 PM

The thing about Gehrig is that he was so consistent. From 1927 to 1937 his lowest OPS+ season was 167!

I always look at Gehrig's 1938 season with a bit of awe. Here's a man whose fighting a terminal illness and he still puts up a 132 OPS+ season. It really goes to show you how talented Gehrig was.

Bill Burgess

12-11-2006, 06:21 PM

Lou Gehrig, Yankees' 1B

Source: The History of Baseball: Its Great Players, Teams and Managers, edited by Allison Danzig/Joe Reichler, 1959, pp. 82.

W_Marone

12-11-2006, 06:23 PM

Quick fact about the "Iron Horse" when he was born he weighted 14 pounds....if I remember correctly.

Gehrig also has quite possibly the best world series performance in baseball history. (1932)
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Myankee4life:
Gehrig's career post season line .361/.477/.731 10(HR) 35(RBI) 30(RS)

His numbers in the 1928 WS

.545/.706/1.727(!) OPS 2.433(!!!) 4(HR) 9(RBI)

1932 WS

.529/.600/1.118 OPS 1.718 3(HR) 8(RBI)

Few have ever been as good as Gehrig in the WS....

He was indeed a MONSTER
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Bill Burgess:

Lou Gehrig-7 WS

26 8x23=.348
27 4x13=.308
28 6x11=.545
32 9x17=.529
36 7x24=.292
37 5x17=.294
38 4x14=.286

43 x 119 = .361

Sultan_1895-1948

12-11-2006, 07:35 PM

My grandfather once had a ball autographed by Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig but he ruined it when he played with it. He has rued the day ever since.

:eek: I thought using a Jordan rookie card in my spokes to make motorcycle sounds was bad. Wowsers gramps! :eek:

Bill Burgess

12-13-2006, 06:17 PM

Lou Gehrig / fiancee Eleanor Twitchell.
Comiskey Park, 1931-33
Eleanor: Born: March 6, 1904
Died: March 6, 1984
Married Lou: Sept. 29, 1933

Myankee4life

12-17-2006, 10:41 AM

An excerpt from The Luckiest Man

Gehrig wore a pair of skintight shorts and a gray sweatshirt. For those accustomed to seeing the man attired elegantly in pinstripes, the outfit was revelatory: Gehrig wasn't just big; he was immense. His muscles had muscles. Each of his thighs were roughly the size of McGovern's torso. Even Dempsey, a savage fighter who won th heavyweight crown in 1919 and retired in
1927, looked small next to Gehrig.

Gehrig was said to weigh as much as 225lbs in his prime.

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Myankee4life

12-17-2006, 11:44 AM

Excerpt from The Luckiest Man

Three weeks later, on June 3, the Yankees were in Philadelphia for a game against their principle rival, the Athletics. Gehrig loved hitting in Shibe Park. The fence in right stood only 331 feet away. In left, the distance was 334 feet. But the left field and right field fences converged out by the flagpole at something close to a right angle, which made for a vast canyon in straightaway center field. Over the course of his career, only Yankee Stadium and Sportsman's park in St. Louis were the scene of more Gehrig homers. George "Moose" Earnshaw pitched that day for the Athletics. He had won sixty-seven regular season games and four World Series games the past 3 years, establishing himself as one of the best right handers in the game. But even the best pitchers come out flat occasionally. In the first inning, Gehrig hit a long, two-run homer to left-center field. In the fourth inning, he drove another one over the wall in right. In the bottom half of the same inning, when the Athletics came to bat, he dropped a foul pop. "It was a fairly hard chance, but I should have caught it," he said. The error contributed to a big inning, and Philadelphia took an 8-7 lead.

In the fifth, Gehrig faced Earnshaw for the third time. "I was still boiling over that error," Gehrig recalled a few years later. He took out his anger on Earnshaw, Cracking yet another homer to left-center. For the fourth time in his career he had hit three home runs in a game. No one else had ever done it more than three times. And the game was only five innings old.

After Gehrig's third home run, Connie Mack stretched his long legs, climbed out of the dugout, and walked to the mound. He took the ball from Earnshaw and handed it to Leroy Mahaffey, another righty. But Mahaffey had no better luck. In the seventh inning, Gehrig turned on a fastball and thumped it over the left-field fence for his fourth straight homer. Not since the dead-ball era ,when home runs were usually inside-the-park affairs, had anyone hit four in a game. Bob Lowe of the Boston Nationals had done it in 1894, and Ed Delehanty of the Phillies in 1896. No one had ever hit five.

When Gehrig came to bat in the eighth inning, he had a chance to hit his fifth homer. The small crowd of Philadelphians got on its feet to encourage him. He swung hard but a bit too high, grounding into an easy out.

The Yankees got six runs in the ninth, bringing their total for the afternoon to twenty, and finally putting the game out of reach. Thanks to the rally, Gehrig got one more turn to hit. Eddie Rommel was on the mound now. Gehrig saw a pitch he liked. He stepped into it, swung, and hit the ball on the thick part of the bat. It felt solid - better than any ball he'd hit all day. At the sound of the crack the fans stood to watch the ball fly. It rose and rose. Gehrig took off running. The ball rocketed toward straightaway center field, into the deepest corner of the park.

Al Simmons, who'd been switched from left field to center earlier in the game, started sprinting. He could see the ball wasn't going to clear the fence, but he wasn't sure if he would get it in time. If it landed and hit the wall, it might bounce around for awhile. Gehrig would have at least a triple, maybe an inside-the-park home run. Simmons leapt. As he raised his glove and stretched his left arm high above his head, the ball disappeared into the soft leather of his mitt. Gehrig, approaching second base, must have had a good view of the catch. He lowered his head and jogged back to the dugout.

"You know," he said after the game, "I think that last one was the hardest ball I hit all day. Gosh, it felt good....I wonder what Mom and Pop up at New Rochelle thought of it. Too bad Mom didn't see it."
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Gehrig becomes the first major leaguer to hit 4 HR's out the park. Almost had a fifth. Like Usual Gehrig style, he had to take a backseat that day. John Mcgraw retired from the Giants that same day.

Myankee4life

12-17-2006, 02:52 PM

1.) Given a healthy decline I'd rank Lou #3 all-time( with my given numbers) and he'd remain the #1 1B

2.) His BA/OB%/Slg% would have gone down but his counting numbers would of increased.

Id say not counting his 1938 season ( afflicted with ALS) from 1937 on had he played till he was 40 ( 6 more years)

He averaged 37 HR's in his career so if he averaged 27 his last 6 years he'd end up with 627HR's (5th all-time).

He averaged 149 RBI's in his career so if he averaged 119 his last 6 years he'd end up with 2592 (1st all-time).

He averaged 141 Runs in his career so if he averaged 108 his last 6 years he'd end up with 2418 (1st all-time).

He averaged 204 Hits in his career so if he averaged 173 his last 6 years hed end up with 3584 (5th all-time).

He averaged 40 2B in his career so if he averaged 23 his last 6 years hed end up with 640 ( tied 8th all-time).

He averaged 113 BB in his career so if he averaged 94 his last 6 years hed end up with 1961 (5th all-time).

So .330/627/2592/.438/.620 3584(H) 2418(R) 640(2B) 1961(BB)
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I posted this on another thread.....This is what I think Gehrig would of done had he played 6 healthy years pass 1937. I think I was too leniant in predicting his numbers.

ElHalo

12-17-2006, 02:55 PM

Gehrig was a phenomenal hitter, but he never would have been a legend in the game if it wasn't for the way he went out (and still, he's revered in New York at a level far removed from the likes of Ruth, Mantle, DiMaggio, and arguably Berra). Despite being a native New Yorker, he just didn't really have that bigger than life atmosphere about him that we love here... there were never stories about him getting into drunken bar brawls, cheating on his wife with movie stars, and playing World Series games in the midst of three day benders that New Yorkers really like to see from their superstars.

W_Marone

12-18-2006, 07:56 PM

How so? Gehrig was a terror in the box from Day 1. New York had a million newspaper editions a day. He was adored and respected for his abilities - especially by pitchers who look at line drive hitters with extreme caution.

Legends always grow, especially those cut down while still productive.

Terror from day one in New York? Perhaps, but there was a time where Lou struggled, in Hartford, from what i've read in his biography.

Also, on a side note, during one spring training, earlier in his career, he wanted to wait on tables at a local resturant where the team was playing spring training games, however, he turned around the instant he saw his teamates in the resturaunt where he intended to work. He also sent his parents on vacations, putting him in the need for money, earlier in his career. A class act in most aspects, however, he did also have a violent side, he'd get in fights in the clubhouse with opposing team members, and would sometimes have brawls on the field with pitchers who came up and in on him, and sometimes hitting them. This, however, was also earlier in his career.

Mariano_Rivera

12-28-2006, 03:53 PM

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/apr/gehrig/gehrig_columbia200.jpg

Mariano_Rivera

12-28-2006, 03:54 PM

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/apr/gehrig/gehrig_goodbye200.jpg

Mariano_Rivera

12-28-2006, 03:54 PM

http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2005/apr/gehrig/gehrig_dimaggio200.jpg

Myankee4life

01-23-2007, 01:39 PM

Lou Gehrig ready to enter grammar school

Myankee4life

01-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Luckiest Man: The life and death of Lou Gehrig

Lou Gehrig------1917

BoSox Rule

01-23-2007, 01:52 PM

Myankee4life

01-23-2007, 01:52 PM

Luckiest Man: The Life and Death of Lou Gehrig

At Commerce High, Gehrig (second row, third form the right) was the top slugger on New York city's top high school team. (National Baseball Hall of fame Library, Cooperstown, New York)

Honus Wagner Rules

01-23-2007, 03:10 PM

Bill Burgess

02-01-2007, 10:59 PM

Lou Gehrig, 1931
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May 31, 1938, 2000 consecutive game
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May 6, 1929
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Bill Burgess

06-20-2007, 04:42 PM

Lou and Eleanor: A Baseball Love Story:

Eleanor G. Twitchell: Born: March 6, 1904, Chicago, IL
Died: March 6, 1984, New York, NY, age 80
Married Lou: September 29, 1933.

Lou Gehrig / fiancee Eleanor Twitchell: Comiskey Park: June 19, 1933, Comiskey Park
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January 6, 1934: Lou Gehrig and Wife Wearing Hawaiian Leis
Mr. and Mrs. Lou Gehrig smile their greetings to Hawaii in return for the floral lei with which they were greeted upon their arrival there, while en route to Japan where Lou is touring with the American League All-Star Baseball Team.
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February 1, 1935: Mr. and Mrs. Lou Gehrig Sitting With Sports Writer
Lou Gehrig, big shot in American baseball, accompanied by Mrs. Gehrig, are pictured in their Paris hotel. Gehrig was returning home in easy stages after his tour of Japan with the All Star Baseball team. With them is the well-known sports writer, "Sparrow" Robertson.
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February 13, 1935: Mr. and Mrs. Lou Gehrig Posing While Traveling
Lou Gehrig, slugging first baseman of the New York Yankees, and his bride, are pictured as they returned to New York from England on the S. S. Berengaria. They completed a world tour, starting in Japan soon after the World series. Gehrig told interviewers that he had not seen his Yankee contract for 1935, but that he would ask for a salary of $35,000, since he believed he would take the place of babe Ruth as far as batting was concerned.
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Eleanor and Lou Gehrig Returning from Vacation
Lou Gehrig with his wife photographed shortly after their arrival in New York after their arrival in New York after a world tour. The Yankee first baseman says that he expects to have no trouble concerning his 1935 salary but reports have it that Gehrig will attempt to put a dent in Colonel Rupperts bankroll.
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April 20, 1937: Lou Gehrig with Wife Opening Day at Yankee Stadium (All shots in this post, Corbis)
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November 12, 1939: Lou Gehrig Sitting with Wife at Typewriter
"Iron Man" Lou Gehrig, idol of millions of baseball fans, is shown preparing ground work for his new job as member of the three-man municipal parole commission. His wife is taking down notes prepared after wading through more than 30 volumes and leaflets on criminology and parole. He will be officially sworn in on Monday. Mayor LaGuardia, who appointed Gehrig to the post, is counting on his influence with wayward youth on setting them along the straight and narrow.
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November 10, 1954: Mrs. Lou Gehrig Talking With Colleagues
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July 27, 1957: Mrs. Lou Gehrig And Mrs. Babe Ruth - New York, NY:
Mrs. Lou Gehrig (L) and Mrs. Babe Ruth, widows of two of the New York Yankees' all-time greats, are shown as they appeared at old timers' day at Yankee Stadium today.
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Bill Burgess

06-20-2007, 04:47 PM

Lou and Eleanor: A baseball Love Story. Courting at the ballpark, Chicago. Probably at the 1932 World Series at Wrigley Field.
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1942: Bill Dickey, Mrs. Eleanor Gehrig, Christy Walsh, Joe McCarthy. Probably after Lou died.
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Eleanor, the new bride. October, 1933.
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Bill Burgess

06-20-2007, 04:49 PM

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csh19792001

02-23-2008, 07:01 PM

I'm reading "Luckiest Man" by Jonathan Eig. It's a truly outstanding biography and lends more insight into Gehrig the human being than any I've read, and I haven't been able to put it down. I wanted to take the time to recount some revealing excerpts and anecdotes.

Below is a particularly touching excerpt regarding events from 1934. The book is filled with poignant moments which make my love of Gehrig and sadness over his demise that much more profound.

Gehrig was so earnest that he at times seemed two-dimensional. Even Eleanor needed some time to discover that her husband was "no automaton, no unfeeling giant." She introduced him to literature and opera and saw that he was "a sensitive and soft man." Lou suspected that some people doubted his intelligence, and that suspicions made him all the more eager to prove himself, Eleanor wrote:

So he wasn't simply the strong, silent type; he was vulnerable, easily hurt, quickly cut. So much so that when he thought he had treated me brusquely, he'd go around the house and refuse to talk to me for what seemed like hours....exiling himself and not me, sulking at his own moodiness....

What he badly needed was confidence, building up, he was absolutely anemic for kindness and warmth. He had never known closeness or close love before, and when he found it, he grew frightened to death that he might lose it...this was my man, maybe my man child, my Luke.

One winter, Eleanor and her Luke saw every performance of Wagner's Tristan and Isolde at the Metropolitan Opera in New York City. It was the biggest opera to open in more than twenty years....

In his stylish, sharply cut evening wear, Gehrig looked not so much like a baseball player as a movie star. But the fancy clothing did nothing to disguise his brawn. When he moved, crowds gave way. As the lights dimmed, he and Eleanor took their seats. Chilling dissonances flowed from the orchestra pit and flooded the audience. The curtain rose to reveal a richly decorated room on the foredeck of a warship as it sailed from Ireland to Cornwall. The knight Tristan was transporting Isolde, an Irish princess, to Cornwall, where she was to marry King Marke. Isolde, built like a battle ship, and rapturous in her long braids and shimmering gown, prayed the vessel would sink rather than carry her to the forced marriage.

"Hark, to my bidding, fluttering breezes!!" she sang in German. "Arise and storm in boisterous strife!!"

Gehrig's ability to understand German no doubt added to his rapture. He listened to the soaring voices and the majestic orchestra filling the cavernous hall with raging passions and omens of doom. As the opera unfolds, Isolde tries to poison Tristan, but her servant replaces the poison with a love potion. The potion fills them with a love so great that they can barely contain themselves. The music grows delirious- buoyant, swirling, and swelling- but the delights is too intense to last. Such great love can end only in tragedy.

"Mild and softly he is smiling," Isolde sang, as Tristan fell into her arms and died. "How his eyelids sweetly open!"

By this point, Gehrig was sobbing in the dark. Eleanor looked at her husband and wondered what had upset him so. She wondered, as she wrote years later, whether Gehrig had experienced a premonition. She wondered if he had a sense that his own love "couldn't last, that it was a tantalizing trick of some kind, never really meant to be."

In the opera's final moments, Isolde fell atop her beloved's body and joined him in death.

The curtain fell.

dabigyankeeman

02-24-2008, 07:14 AM

I tip my hat to Lou Gehrig, the greatest combination of talent and goodness to ever play the game. :clapping

Rennie Stennett

02-26-2008, 03:57 PM

Lou Gehrig:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/lougehrigfarewelltobaseball.htm

BSmile

02-26-2008, 08:27 PM

1) Lou on the 1931 Japanese Tour....Using chop sticks.

2) Lou at BP.....nobody around (nice large scale pic).

Cheers! ~B

Bill Burgess

02-27-2008, 06:25 AM

Man oh man, that last shot of Lou was sweet! Whenever you show a great shot like that, what I do is insert them into the beginning of the thread, so that when newcomers arrive, they see our best shots of each player.

I used to put the photos at the back of the threads, but then realized that many readers never get all the way to the back. Some threads are real long.

So, by putting our photo galleries in the first 10 posts, they get seen! And some of these photos you're showing, BSmile, are truly award-winning. Notice how Lou had cut off the sleeves of his uniform, so he could swing more freely? I don't suppose there was a date on that last Lou shot?

Bill

BSmile

02-27-2008, 08:09 AM

I don't suppose there was a date on that last Lou shot?

Sorry Bill, no date on that last large Gehrig pic. Trust me, from now on if I have a date, I'll post it along with the pic....so if you don't see a date, niether did I. Anyways, here's a couple of new one's....with the year!

1) Lou G. - Spring Training 1928

2) Lou in the dugout, reflecting on things. - 1939 - I had to spend some time "cleaning" this picture up....it was in pretty rough shape the way I found it. Tons of rips, creases, waterstains. It was such a beautiful and large (not to mention rare) picture, it was worth the time to make it look much better.

More to come...Cheers! `B

Bill Burgess

02-27-2008, 02:19 PM

I don't suppose there was a date on that last Lou shot?

Sorry Bill, no date on that last large Gehrig pic. Trust me, from now on if I have a date, I'll post it along with the pic....so if you don't see a date, niether did I.
OK. I won't ask anymore. I'll just know that there wasn't any dates available to post.

2) Lou in the dugout, reflecting on things. - 1939 -
That shot of Lou fills me with heart, pathos, angst. He was only 36 years old. A year earlier, he bestrode the BB landscape, as royalty. Shows how life can lay ANYONE low, without warning, without appeal. Lou was on the verge of setting career totals to set the world on fire, and then, without warning, without appeal, from out of nowhere, it was all over. Not only his baseball career, but his very life.

What a shock to him and wife Eleanor. Proves life is not fair.

George H Ruth

02-27-2008, 02:35 PM

Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio and Bill Dickey late 1930's
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Gehrig and Greenberg: 1935
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Gehrig holding a couple of bats
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Robert "Red" Rolfe, with New York Yankees teammates Frankie Crosetti, Tony Lazzeri, and Lou Gehrig, 1935
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Lou Gehrig swinging
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George H Ruth

02-28-2008, 01:24 PM

Gehrig on the bench, second from the right in Japan Looks like Jimmy Foxx between Lou and Connie Mack.
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Gehrig on the bench third from the left Looks like Lefty Gomez between Lou and Connie Mack.
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Lou swinging a Golf Club
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BSmile

02-28-2008, 03:22 PM

1) 1936 New York Yankees Team

2) 1939 New York Yankees Team

Cheers! ~B

BSmile

03-05-2008, 05:40 AM

1) Lou shows off some off his mementos. No exact date...but he is retired at this point. (1939-41)

2) Lou looking through the family photo's with his wife. Again, no exact date...but he is suppossedly retired when this was taken. (1939-41)

3) A better day for Lou as he slides home face first in Washington - 1920's

George H Ruth

03-08-2008, 12:06 PM

Gehrig winding up 1923
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Gehrig and the Yankees 1925 before Spring Training
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Gehrig with the New York Rangers 1934
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Taking a water break during the World Series (1936).
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Mr. and soon-to-be-Mrs. Gehrig celebrate his 30th birthday, 1933
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Lou Gehrig gently encouraging Babe Dahlgren in the dugout before Dahlgren replaced him as the Yankees' first baseman in Detroit. Gehrig removed himself from the lineup, snapping his consecutive-games-played streak at 2,130.
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BSmile

03-08-2008, 01:34 PM

1) A rare pic of Lou on the road.....

SHOELESSJOE3

03-08-2008, 03:26 PM

Every so often it's pointed out that Lou's streak was kept alive in games where he played less than 9 innings, sometimes a few innings and once leaving after making an appearance in a fielding position for an inning, that was rare. It did happen a number of times but it's understandable, loads of doubleheaders all played in day games.

I'm not going to begin to debate which streak was more impressive, Lou in his time or Cal in his time, thats not my point. Hats of to both these guys impressive back then and in Cal's time.

My pioint, after atrip to the public library I went over some Yankee box scores, late 1920s and into the 1930s. I can't believe how many double headers were played in those days by all teams. I saw close to a dozen cases where the Yanks played 3 DHs in a week, some times back to back then a single game and then another DH.

Some examples 1927
May 27 DH
May 28 DH
May 29 single game
May 30 DH
May 31 DH

1930 Single games May 19-20-21
May 22 DH
May 23 DH
May 24 no game
May 25 DH
May 26 single
May 27 single
May 28 DH

There is a good number of these DHs crammed into a short span of time, many make up games, still 2 games in the heat of day.

What I found in most of these DHs was that Lou played every inning and in one case on the Yanks day off they played an exhibition game in Elmira NY, 7 innings and Lou played.

On my next trip to the library I plan on making copies of the box scores to verify that in most of them he played every inning.

George H Ruth

03-12-2008, 04:01 PM

Lou Gehrig posing
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Lou Gehrig posing once again
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Bench 5

03-12-2008, 04:14 PM

Jeesh....Lou's thighs look like Earl Campbell's !! :bowdown:

Maybe he was in the wrong sport. :laugh

BSmile

03-12-2008, 08:51 PM

1) Lou before the 1935 All-Star Game, not sure who the child is. - Cleveland (July 8)

2) Earl Averill, Jimmy Foxx, Lou Gehrig, Goose Goslin and Frank Higgins at the 1936 All-Star Game - Boston

3) Lou stares down the bats - September 1937

4) Lou retired...but still signing - June 22, 1939

csh19792001

03-12-2008, 09:26 PM

Lou Gehrig posing
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Lou Gehrig posing once again
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Recently finished Luckiest Man by Jonathan Eig.

It was funny, they said Gehrig fit the bill for the role, except that high thighs were too thick!!

In 38' he did make another appearance on the big screen, as the star of a western.

George H Ruth

04-20-2008, 09:43 AM

Bill Burgess

04-20-2008, 11:05 AM

I know it's very hard to determine this, but I was wondering if you guys think Gehrig would of had a better career if he played for another team, or it really helped him playing with the Yankees especially Babe Ruth.
It gave and it took. Having a hitter who was on base almost half the time of his career helped Lou's RBI stat. And it helped Ruth's Runs scored stat.

But it obscured his personal attention level, but then again, Lou was such a retiring, reticent, deferring type of player/person, he might not have gotten that much attention/ink anyway. I tend to believe that being a Yankee helps a player's career much more than not. In fact, playing for any NY team (Giants/Dodgers) gave one a lot more visibility than if one had played for St. Louis, Detroit, or Cincinnati.

One wanted to play in NY, Chicago, Philly. The big markets. It serves one to play in front of the most people possible. To be seen by more eyes is always better than to be seen by less. As a general principle.

I sometimes engage in fantasies, where Ruth/Cobb start their careers together, as team mates in 1920, and Gehrig/Hornsby start their careers at the same time on the Giants. Might have created intriguing symbiotic relationships, serving each in different ways.

csh19792001

09-08-2008, 12:04 AM

Courtesy of biographer Jonathan Eig in The Times last week:

Honus Wagner Rules

09-08-2008, 12:42 AM

It gave and it took. Having a hitter who was on base almost half the time of his career helped Lou's RBI stat. And it helped Ruth's Runs scored stat.

But it obscured his personal attention level, but then again, Lou was such a retiring, reticent, deferring type of player/person, he might not have gotten that much attention/ink anyway. I tend to believe that being a Yankee helps a player's career much more than not. In fact, playing for any NY team (Giants/Dodgers) gave one a lot more visibility than if one had played for St. Louis, Detroit, or Cincinnati.

One wanted to play in NY, Chicago, Philly. The big markets. It serves one to play in front of the most people possible. To be seen by more eyes is always better than to be seen by less. As a general principle.

Some good points, Bill. I beleive that Gehrig's talent was so sublime and awe-inspiring that it would not of mattered where he played. I see Gehrig like I see Hank Aaron in this respect. For all the talk about Aaron being underappreciated when he was active I think the true baseball fans knew how great Aaron was in his heyday.

cgcoyne2

09-09-2008, 01:07 AM

Raw numbers, raw numbers, raw numbers. As it is, even with no war credit, Williams played more games than Gehrig and he has a higher OPS+. Give Williams war credit and not only do his rates go up, but he also has a huge career value edge on Gehrig as well. It is not close.

War credit? True Williams was out for 2 wars, but Gehrig DIED!!!!!

He died at 37. He retired at 35. His strength was compromised in his final full season (1938). He was 34 when he was pretty much done.

csh19792001

09-09-2008, 04:10 PM

War credit? True Williams was out for 2 wars, but Gehrig DIED!!!!!

He died at 37. He retired at 35. His strength was compromised in his final full season (1938). He was 34 when he was pretty much done.

A little background for you (to make it less offensive)...this was a 14ish year old kid who thought he was a baseball savant, but had little to no experience with either the game en vivo or true appreciation for the history of the game.His baseball knowledge was confined, more or less, to a book or two and internet numerology.

He wouldn't understand Gehrig or fully appreciate the scope of what he was and what he was able to do.

Bill Burgess

01-11-2009, 02:25 PM

SHOELESSJOE3

01-11-2009, 04:07 PM

One of the things we've all read is that midway through the 1938 season, Lou fell into a slump, due to his disease.

But the truth is that he apparently started the season wretchedly. He didn't start off well, and then into a slump midway.

By May 10, 35 games in, he had only 25 runs, 33 hits, 19 RBIs, 4 homers, and a .280 BA.

Can anyone else show his season at intervals? New York sports writer Dan Daniel was referring to his 'big slump' on May 10.

Not much on the season Bill but I found some old box scores, small sample. I don't think Lou did much hitting early in the season (April), as you pointed out. What I have early May, he was hitting at a fair clip, maybe not "Gehrig like" but not bad. Another indication of a bad April, moved down to 6th in the batting order on May 5th

Small sample all in May
------------Ab------Hits
3rd----------3-------0
4------------4-------2
5------------4-------2
6---rain
7------------5-------3 triple
8------------4-------2 IPH Not a cheapie, hit near the 461 marker
9---rain
10- rain
11----------4-------1
12----------4-------2 HR right field
13----------3-------1 described as a "fluke hit"
14----------1-------0 game called 6th inning, 1-1 tie
15---rain
16---0ff
17---rain
18---------4-------3 2 doubles wonder if the three day rest did him some good.

12 for 36, not a bad half month but notice not much on the long ball.
1938 Must have been the early stage of what was to take Lou away.

Bill Burgess

01-11-2009, 05:01 PM

Must have been the early stage of what was to take Lou away.
I quite agree.

I formerly believed that if Lou contracted the disease in early 1938, it manifested in mid year.

Now, I must revise my time-line. He must have gotten it in 1937, and it manifested in spring training, 1938.

brett

01-11-2009, 05:24 PM

I quite agree.

I formerly believed that if Lou contracted the disease in early 1938, it manifested in mid year.

Now, I must revise my time-line. He must have gotten it in 1937, and it manifested in spring training, 1938.

Actually, you don't really "get" ALS. You have it all your life, but at some point its effects become significant enough to have an effect on daily life. Also, the effects can wax and wane.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-11-2009, 05:44 PM

Actually, you don't really "get" ALS. You have it all your life, but at some point its effects become significant enough to have an effect on daily life. Also, the effects can wax and wane.

What ever the case with Lou and when ALS began to effect him, I'm thinking along what Bill Burgess thinks, near the end of 1937 or the off season between 1937 and 1938. Thats what I see in his numbers. His numbers in 1937 look fine. He did drop down in home runs 49 in 1936 to 37 in 1937 but his other numbers were very good.

1935 not a typical Gehrig year, I'm wondering, his first year with no Babe. I realize Babe batted ahead of him in the line up but they may have juggled the batting order with Babe gone. Joe D comes in 1936 and Lou's number go back up.

Again I'm looking at either late 1937 or the off season, 1938 was not the Lou Gehrig as we knew him when he was really pounding the ball.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-11-2009, 06:49 PM

Took a quick glance to see how Lou did in the 1937 season, looking to see if he dropped off much from start to finish.

------------Ba---------hits---------Hrs
June 7----.377---------57----------7
July 8-----.378---------94---------14
Aug.8-----.374---------137--------27
Oct.3-----.353---------200--------37 .

I see nothing there that shows and real drop, totals for the months consistent batting average down 21 points in the last month but other in the batting race came down late in season.

This is from 1938,

Talk about a real grind, this is it.

This is late in the 1938 season, late August. DH for double headers, hard to believe.

August 21 DH
-------22 [B]Off
-------23 DH
-------24 DH
-------25 DH
-------26 DH
-------27 DH Lots of game there in one week, thats earning your pay, WOW.

Lou played every inning of those double headers, 1938 numbers off but he was still taking the field.

csh19792001

01-12-2009, 08:52 PM

What ever the case with Lou and when ALS began to effect him, I'm thinking along what Bill Burgess thinks, near the end of 1937 or the off season between 1937 and 1938.

Joe,
That estimate sounds like an accurate estimate.

Have you read Luckiest Man yet? If you haven't yet it's absolutely the first baseball book you should read. Pages 237 onwards concern the onset of his disease.

Unfortunately they omit many pages- definitely worth the read. It seems that some contemporary neurologists believe there were visible signs of the disease during the filming of Gehrig's western Rawhide filmed in January 38'. Some point to hand atrophy and others the way Lou got up from a sitting position.

It hit him fast, though- by May he had lost a noticeable amount of muscle mass and his gait was awkward. Since he had lost a great deal of strength and coordination, he was forced to grip the bat tighter, which resulted in blisters. This is one of the more telling quotes I took from the book about the progression of his illness is on page 254 from Joe McCarthy, in a 1945 interview about the spring of 38'.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-12-2009, 08:58 PM

Joe,
That estimate sounds like an accurate estimate.

Have you read Luckiest Man yet? If you haven't yet it's absolutely the first baseball book you should read. Pages 237 onwards concern the onset of his disease.

Unfortunately they omit many pages- definitely worth the read. It seems that some contemporary neurologists believe there were visible signs of the disease during the filming of Gehrig's western Rawhide filmed in January 38'. Some point to hand atrophy and others the way Lou got up from a sitting position.

It hit him fast, though- by May he had lost a noticeable amount of muscle mass and his gait was awkward. Since he had lost a great deal of strength and coordination, he was forced to grip the bat tighter, which resulted in blisters. This is one of the more telling quotes I took from the book about the progression of his illness is on page 254 from Joe McCarthy, in a 1945 interview about the spring of 38'.

Have not read that book, have peeked at some pages when spotting that book at the public library. I get down to the library every couple of weeks, will make it a point to take it home with me next visit.

EdTarbusz

01-12-2009, 09:40 PM

Luckiest Man was one of the better baseball biographies that I have read. I think the section about Gehrig and ALS was the most interesting section of the book. Gehrig's medical records are still sealed by the Mayo Clinic so the question of the outset of his ALS may never be answered.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-12-2009, 10:08 PM

Supposedly the words of Lou's wife Eleanor. At first doctors diagnosed a gall bladder problem and put Lou on a bland diet which only made him weaker. Don't have any dates on this or who the doctors were, assuming they were not from the Mayo clinic.
Also, no date on this but some teammates noticed Lou wearing tennis shoes instead of cleated golf shoes when playing golf. He never complained about it but they noticed he was dragging his feet, this would be a real problem wearing cleated golf shoes. Supposedly some Yankees brought this to the attention of manager McCarthy and asked if Lou might be taken out of the line up, McCarthy answers, "Thats up to Lou".

We may never find any accurate dates on when this disease really began to take him down but it seems that he was at the least getting along fairly good even up till the close of the 1938 season. Hard to believe that if he was weakened by that disease at that point that he would play every inning of those double headers late in the season, in August, 6 double headers in one weak. Not to say that it was not already moving in on him, but that he could not have been that weakened by it at that point, we're talking 12 games in one week. Looking at his numbers in 1938 it certainly looks like it was already effecting his hitting, but he kept taking the field.

Bill Burgess

01-13-2009, 06:54 AM

It seems that some contemporary neurologists believe there were visible signs of the disease during the filming of Gehrig's western Rawhide filmed in January 38'. Some point to hand atrophy and others the way Lou got up from a sitting position.
This, combined with his noticeable drop in his BA from August to October, 1937, leads me to believe that Lou began to manifest its symptoms in late 1937.

It just keeps getting earlier and earlier. So, the popular misconception that Lou went into a slump midway through 1938 is quite out-of-date.

Apparently, his late 1937 work suffered greatly, and he opened his 1938 spring training fully in its grip. It's amazing his sheer will drove him through that 1938 season. Twice he got 2 homers in a game. That was amazing, sheer determination. Lou was quite a hero. Even to the end.

White Knight

01-13-2009, 11:15 AM

What ever the case with Lou and when ALS began to effect him, I'm thinking along what Bill Burgess thinks, near the end of 1937 or the off season between 1937 and 1938. Thats what I see in his numbers. His numbers in 1937 look fine. He did drop down in home runs 49 in 1936 to 37 in 1937 but his other numbers were very good.

1935 not a typical Gehrig year, I'm wondering, his first year with no Babe. I realize Babe batted ahead of him in the line up but they may have juggled the batting order with Babe gone. Joe D comes in 1936 and Lou's number go back up.

Again I'm looking at either late 1937 or the off season, 1938 was not the Lou Gehrig as we knew him when he was really pounding the ball.

For all we know, the effects of the disease may have kicked in in 1920, and then esculated in 1937/1938. Maybe without ALS he would have been better than Ruth, no one can truely say.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-13-2009, 11:49 AM

For all we know, the effects of the disease may have kicked in in 1920, and then esculated in 1937/1938. Maybe without ALS he would have been better than Ruth, no one can truely say.

Anything could be, but that 1920 seems to be reaching a bit. As he was he wasn't far behind Ruth, how good or great could he be.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-13-2009, 11:54 AM

This, combined with his noticeable drop in his BA from August to October, 1937, leads me to believe that Lou began to manifest its symptoms in late 1937.

It just keeps getting earlier and earlier. So, the popular misconception that Lou went into a slump midway through 1938 is quite out-of-date.

Apparently, his late 1937 work suffered greatly, and he opened his 1938 spring training fully in its grip. It's amazing his sheer will drove him through that 1938 season. Twice he got 2 homers in a game. That was amazing, sheer determination. Lou was quite a hero. Even to the end.

Thats true Bill. Again I go back to my earlier post, his hitting showed decline in 1938 but the man was a bull, back to those 6 doubleheaders in one week late August 1938, he played every inning. His hitting we can see by the numbers was in decline in 1938, but he keeps putting on the spikes. I know the streak must have been on his mind late in 1938 but what was to stop him from playing only a part of some of those double headers, the streak would still be alive.

White Knight

01-13-2009, 12:01 PM

Anything could be, but that 1920 seems to be reaching a bit. As he was he wasn't far behind Ruth, how good or great could he be.

That's the thing, only God knows for sure. Imagine if without the disease he would have been stonger and more athletic, and faster, with better coordination. He may have been a lifetime .370 hitter, having hit 65 HR's in a season a few times. Unlike it started taking effect in 1929 or even 1930, but who can really say.

SHOELESSJOE3

01-13-2009, 01:03 PM

That's the thing, only God knows for sure. Imagine if without the disease he would have been stonger and more athletic, and faster, with better coordination. He may have been a lifetime .370 hitter, having hit 65 HR's in a season a few times. Unlike it started taking effect in 1929 or even 1930, but who can really say.

Not sure how far we can go with this one, to just toss a notion in the air and consider it, how much stronger could Gehrig have been.
For that matter, we could go back to him as a young boy, maybe the seed was already there, there.

I'll go with your closer, who can really say.

Bill Burgess

01-13-2009, 02:13 PM

If Lou had not had his disease, I still cannot believe that he would have posted better stats before 1937. But I do believe that he would have posted awesome career totals in RBIs, and other offensive categories.

But his rate stats would have still been inferior to the Babe's. But Lou was poised to post some awesome career totals, if not for his disease.

Bill Burgess

02-17-2009, 02:19 PM

Babefan found these beauties.

baseballbuff

03-29-2009, 07:56 PM

This is the house where Lou Gehrig died, in the Fieldston Section of Riverdale, in the northern Bronx. This home, originally built in 1929, is still occupied today. According to author Jonathan Eig, Lou and Eleanor moved into this house just before Christmas of 1939. Lou died here in June 1941, probably in the room above the garage according to the current owner. Apparently, nobody living knows for sure which room he died in. Fortunately for my son and I, the owner happened to be outside when we walked by. Mr. Kaminksy greeted us warmly and spoke with me for a few minutes about Lou. Out of respect for the residents' privacy, I had had no intention of knocking on the door when we arrived at 5204 Delafield.

I think that two of the photos of Lou submitted by BSmiles were probably taken inside of this house: The one where he is sitting on the couch with Eleanor and the one where he is in his trophy room pointing to a bat on the wall. Otherwise, I have seen no photos of Lou that were taken here. Does anyone else have a photo of Lou taken at this house, inside or outside?

Lou has been a hero of mine since childhood. Still, Albert Pujols is showing that he may be just as good. Pujols is an exceptional ballplayer, clearly one of MLB's very best. It is clear that he and Lou are the two greatest first basemen of all time. Keep your eye on Albert.

BSmile

03-29-2009, 08:47 PM

Lou Gehrig - May 2, 1939 - Detroit
Lou finally sits down after 2,130 games...

BURBANKBOB

05-15-2009, 10:43 AM

THE LOU GEHRIG TOUR

NEW YORK CITY
1903 - 1908
1994 SECOND AVENUE AT EAST 102nd STREET
Henry Louis Gehrig was born at the family apartment on
June 19, 1903 in the Yorkville area, to Heinrich Gehrig and Christina Fack Gehrig.

WASHINGTON HEIGHTS
2266 AMSTERDAM AVENUE (179th STREET)
When Lou was five years old they moved to a better part of town and into a nicer apartment.

PUBLIC SCHOOL 132
Young Lou was enrolled in this school.

155 WEST 65th STREET
THE HIGH SCHOOL OF COMMERCE
He attended this high school.

COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY
For some reason Gehrig's father could no longer work so his
mother, who wore the pants in the family, got a job here as a cook and housekeeper for Sigma Nu Theta. Lou helped out as well by taking any job he could find. He worked in a butcher shop, grocery stores, delivered newspapers, mowed lawns during the summer and shoveled snow during the winter. He also helped his mother by serving dinner and cleaning up.

While he was still in high school he was making a name a for himself on the school football and baseball teams. After graduating he enrolled in Columbia and became a member of Phi Delta Theta.

1923
On April 23, Paul Krichell, a scout for the New York Yankees,
attended a baseball game against Columbia and Rutgers University, and witnessed Lou Gehrig hit two home runs in three - at - bats. That night he called Yankees general manager, Ed Barrow, and told him that he'd just discovered the next Babe Ruth.

Columbia's next game was at South Field against New York University and Krichell was in the stands. During this game Gehrig hit a home run that has become legend. The ball sailed out of the ball park and landed at 116th Street where it bounced out of sight. Lou went 2 to 3 and pitched a complete game, striking out eight in a 7 - 2 win. Afterward Kritchell met Lou and asked him to come to Yankee Stadium the next morning to talk to Ed Barrow. Gehrig, a college sophmore at the time, went to

see Barrow the next day. The Yankee GM offered the young man a contract starting at $400 a month or close to $1,200 for the rest of 1923, plus $1,500 signing bonus. On April 30, 1923,
twenty year old Lou Gehrig, signed the contract, his first, and the rest is history.

1932
9 MEADOW LANE - NEW ROCHELLE, NEW YORK
He bought this house for his parents

On September 29 Lou married Eleanor Twitchell.

1932 - 1940
5 CIRCUIT ROAD - NEW ROCHELLE
Lou and his bride, Eleanor, moved into this two bedroom apartment in a seven story building, after getting married.

21 NORTH CHATSWORTH AVENUE, LARCHMONT, NY
Gehrig and his wife moved from their New Rochelle apartment into this new
apartment.

1940 - 1941
5204 DELAFIELD AVENUE
In 1940 they moved into this three - story Colonial - style, white wood - framed house. He died here in 1941.

KENSICO CEMETERY, VALHALLA, NEW YORK

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:40 PM

Thanks for starting this thread Bill. I lost my Dad last Sept to ALS and after reading your comment that you felt Lou had started to feel the effects of the disease in 1937, it really made sense to me. I noticed slight, gradual changes in my father as well. Lou showed alot of courage and class during his fight. This thread is a great tribute to a great and gentle man. Photo shows Lou during a scene in his movie Rawhide.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:45 PM

Great pic of Lou holding a future HOF'er.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:50 PM

Did Lou ever do anything else in the movies?

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:53 PM

I bet he could have been in Gymnastics with his build.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:57 PM

Lou showing the kids how to look when you get ready to hit.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 05:59 PM

Looks like Lou as a rookie.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 06:02 PM

At least I think thats a young Dickey sitting on the ground.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 06:03 PM

Great shot of Lou getting ready to hit.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 06:06 PM

Lou clowining with Geo Selkirk.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 06:08 PM

Pic of Gehrig going into the movie house in St Pete for the Premier of RAWHIDE.

Babefan

05-15-2009, 06:11 PM

Both stars are surrounded by fans while watching a ND football game.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/VV3866.jpg

BSmile

05-15-2009, 08:54 PM

Lou On The Bench - 1939 - In Color
Here's a picture of Lou (originally b&w) that I colorized.

BSmile

05-15-2009, 09:00 PM

1937 American League All-Stars - Washington DC (July 7th)
Another pic that I colorized. From left to right: Lou Gehrig, Joe Cronin, Bill Dickey, Joe DiMaggio, Charlie Gehringer, Jimmie Foxx & Hank Greenberg

BURBANKBOB

05-16-2009, 06:11 PM

When I was a kid about a hundred or so years ago, (1960s) I saw the movie
The Pride Of The Yankees. I had never heard of Lou Gehrig until then, but I've been a fan ever since. This wonderful thread of photos takes the viewer
through Gehrig's life as a baseball celebrity and as a loving son and husband.
Thank you, Thread Master, for putting together this thread of Lou Gehrig's
professional and personal world.
Bob

BSmile

05-16-2009, 09:39 PM

Lou Gehrig's 1934 All-Star Award
These were given to all the selected players...in the days before they gave rings to the All-Stars, which started in 1971.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 12:50 PM

Nice pic while out on tour.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 12:52 PM

I love the hate Miller is wearing.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 12:53 PM

Nice family shot before the game.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 12:56 PM

Nice pick though abit small.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 12:58 PM

Nice shot of the gang .

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:00 PM

Shot of Lou at the plate during spring training in St Pete Fl 1928

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:02 PM

Nice shot.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:04 PM

Pic of Lou after he was brought to the Yankees

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:06 PM

Nice pic of them looking at some fish at Spring Training.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:09 PM

Batting in Spring training.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:13 PM

Not sure of the date of this one.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:15 PM

He looks abit uneasy in this pic.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:16 PM

This almost a panoramic shaped pic of Lou.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:18 PM

A collage of Lou with a copy of one of his checks or a receipt.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:20 PM

Gehrig lets one go by at the plate.

Babefan

06-12-2009, 01:21 PM

Lou stands besides a radio contest winner.

Bill Burgess

06-12-2009, 03:37 PM

Coach (Babefan)! Where are you finding these astounding baseball photos?? Your photos are just taking my breath away! Their clarity is fabulously pristine!

You have found original photos. And your scanning is impeccable. Your scanner must have extremely high resolution. I have seen a lifetime of photos that were merely 'copied' (as opposed to scanned), and cropped, and had thought I had seen the majority of Ruth's and Gehrig's photos.

But you have proven me an innocent child with naive beliefs! You and BSmile have shown yourselves masters at discovering the secret caches of the copy-right holders most prized holdouts. This is just too good to be true.

I feel as if I was just walking along and found a wallet of hundred dollar bills with no identifications to make me feel guilty at keeping them for myself.

Please continue to astound me and blow me away. I live for these images of a bygone era. I feel as if that era is still here. You have helped me to bridge the past/present, and construct a beautiful illusion of continuity.

I'm loving it!! I just can't get enough.

ol' aches and pains

06-12-2009, 03:57 PM

I've always thought this was the saddest baseball picture I've ever seen. People talk about Cal Ripken playing hurt during his record-breaking streak, but Lou Gehrig played when he was dying, for God's sake.

BSmile

06-12-2009, 04:02 PM

Lou Still Has Time For The Kids - 1939

Babefan

06-17-2009, 06:00 PM

We may not always say it but I bet most of us are thinking it or have thought it. Thanks for everything you do! You are amazing!!! - Babefan

Bill Burgess

06-17-2009, 07:12 PM

We may not always say it but I bet most of us are thinking it or have thought it. Thanks for everything you do! You are amazing!!! - Babefan
Thank you so sincerely for all you are doing for baseball. Never forget that what you do here gets out to all of fandom. Via google.image searches.

You and BSmile have made Fever a glorious Place of Baseball Images. Nothing like it anywhere else. Me and GaryL constantly say so via PMs all the time. We're just thrilled by what you 2 guys are doing. Just THRILLED TO DEATH!!

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:35 PM

Carl Hubbell and Gehrig look ready to get their story out!

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:37 PM

Looks like Gehrig, Koenig, Lazzeri, and Dugan to me.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:39 PM

Gehrig in St Pete with Ruppert and McCarthy.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:42 PM

Gehrig, Ruth, Lazzeri, etc at Miller Huggins funeral.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:44 PM

Can you name them all?

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:46 PM

Nice shot of Lou stepping on the bag for the out.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:48 PM

Gehrig listens to Bennie Bengough.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:49 PM

Lou applies the tag.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:51 PM

Gehrig lines one to the outfield.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 07:54 PM

Lou gets a few bats to loosen up.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:00 PM

Great shot of Lou holding a young fan.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:03 PM

Lou Gehrig outside Mayo Clinic.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:04 PM

This was the ticket for Lou's memorial

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Lou watches ? score as Moe Berg is too late for the tag.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:08 PM

Lou & Bill Dickey argue a call.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:12 PM

Gehrig standing next to a player.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:14 PM

Every pitcher knew that look.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:16 PM

This looks like an insert of some sort.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:19 PM

Gehrig in his football outfit at Columbia U.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:21 PM

Lou wrestles with a fellow Yankee.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:22 PM

Looks like Lou is taking a throw from the dugout.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:25 PM

Gehrig, Dimaggio, and Dickey welcome Joe Gordon.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:28 PM

This is a nice shot but its not very big Im afraid.

Babefan

07-25-2009, 08:42 PM

Nice pan like shot of Gehrig at Columbia

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:07 PM

Nice pic of the 2 of them at his game.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:09 PM

Nice shot of Gehrig & Ott at the 36 World Series.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:10 PM

Gehrig studies for his exam.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:12 PM

Lou fires off his guns in "Rawhide".

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:13 PM

LARGE shot of Gehrig at 1st base.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:15 PM

Gehrig lines up with fellow Yankees

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:16 PM

Lou helps out with infield practise.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:18 PM

Nice pic of Lou, His wife, and Joe McCarthey

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:20 PM

This would have been a fun time for all.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:26 PM

Lou crosses the plate after hitting a home run.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:32 PM

Its hard to find this set.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:34 PM

These are great for framing.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:35 PM

Another in the set of 7

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:36 PM

I love the color in this set.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:38 PM

The set continues.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:39 PM

Only 2 more to go.

Babefan

08-04-2009, 08:41 PM

Make a set of these for your office. I apologize for posting all of them but I thought some of you guys might want to make a set for yourselves.

Victory Faust

08-04-2009, 10:55 PM

Lou crosses the plate after hitting a home run.

Wow, this picture from the '37 All Star Game says Gehrig's homer was hit off Dizzy Dean. Earl Averill is on deck. Was this photo shot just before Averill's famous liner that broke Diz's toe?

Babefan

08-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Wow, this picture from the '37 All Star Game says Gehrig's homer was hit off Dizzy Dean. Earl Averill is on deck. Was this photo shot just before Averill's famous liner that broke Diz's toe?

I cant say for sure but you just might be right about that.

Bench 5

10-18-2009, 12:43 PM

Picture of Lou working out.

Bench 5

10-18-2009, 12:45 PM

Picture of Gehrig consoling Babe Dahlgren the day he replaced Gehrig.

Bill Burgess

01-10-2010, 03:10 PM

Can you just imagine being Lou Gehrig, working for the New York Parole Board. There he sits, across the table from inmates who are pleading with him to take into consideration that they just got some bad breaks!

What heart-breaking irony Lou must have felt.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/Lou201940.jpg

Dto7

03-10-2010, 10:10 PM

Lou Gehrig photo taken in 1927

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o23/Dto7/1927lougehrig.jpg

Babefan

01-28-2011, 12:04 PM

Nice shot of Lou fielding

Babefan

01-28-2011, 12:05 PM

Nice stretch by the Iron Horse.
http://i685.photobucket.com/albums/vv217/BillBurgess/Player%20Tributes/Image4-64.jpg

Honus Wagner Rules

01-31-2011, 09:59 AM

babefan,

Where did you find these two wonder Gehrig photos? They are so large and clear. Most excellent!

steelcurtain76

02-03-2011, 04:41 PM

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy156/Blast_Furnace/untitled-2.jpg

steelcurtain76

02-03-2011, 04:58 PM

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy156/Blast_Furnace/untitled-3.jpg

steelcurtain76

02-03-2011, 05:01 PM

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy156/Blast_Furnace/untitled-4.jpg

steelcurtain76

02-03-2011, 05:04 PM

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy156/Blast_Furnace/untitled-5.jpg

pheasant

10-13-2012, 05:20 PM

pheasant

10-13-2012, 06:05 PM

Listed below are Gehrig and Ruth's attempt at comedy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p2WZufrzQk

White Knight

10-13-2012, 07:49 PM

The ultimate baseball legend, forever Captain in Heaven.

Sultan_1895-1948

10-15-2012, 06:28 PM

The ultimate baseball legend, forever Captain in Heaven.

I like your sig White Knight.

Funny that baseball-reference still lists Mac at 215 pounds.

At face value 10.61 is impressive. It's 12.2 if you only count his Oakland years but I think he started in 1992 :)

White Knight

10-15-2012, 07:13 PM

I like your sig White Knight.

Funny that baseball-reference still lists Mac at 215 pounds.

At face value 10.61 is impressive. It's 12.2 if you only count his Oakland years but I think he started in 1992 :)

Yeah, I know it's PED-assisted, but it's pretty darn impressive nonetheless. Wonder if it would be challenged if there was no testing today. I personally don't think anyone. 12.2 is impressive too compared to anyone paying today. Yeah Mac had to be like 250+ in his heyday.