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jalbright
01-12-2008, 08:48 PM
Let the voting begin! For anyone who has not participated before, please read the rules posted here

The Rules (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014933&postcount=2)

Those players receiving only one ballot in an election may go on to a list from which voters may only vote for a limited number of such candidates. For more details on this rule, please follow the above link to the Rules. For this election, you may not select more than three (3) from this list:



Berger, Wally
Bond, Tommy**
Canseco, Jose**
Cash, Norm**
Johnson, Bob
Jones, Charley*
Kingman, Dave**
Long, Herman
Mathews, Bobby**
McCormick, Jim**
O'Neill, Tip*
Pike, Lip
Pinson, Vada**
Smith, Reggie
Tiernan, Mike*


For more details on this rule, please consult the link to the Rules above, and to this post: Limited Selection List (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015092&postcount=7)

Also, please note that now ballots as short as zero (0) names are now permitted. However, if a voter intends to cast a ballot naming no one, this must be clearly communicated or the ballot will not count.

Voting in this cycle will end at 11:59:59 pm Eastern Time, February 1, 2007.

Other information of note is who is in the BBF HOF.

BBF HOF membership by category (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014935&postcount=3)

BBF HOF membership listed alphabetically (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1014936&postcount=4)

Last month's results are posted. You are requested to pay particular attention to those individuals receiving 50% or more of the vote last election, as they are the most likely candidates to be elected this month. In fact, I have specific posts on players receiving 50% or more of last month's vote:

Results of last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015079&postcount=5)

Those with 50% or more last election (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015103&postcount=9)

I have also posted this with respect to the status of the project:

Project Status (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015091&postcount=6)

I have posted all the players who have exceeded 50% of the vote at least once without yet being elected

50%+ voting history (http://baseball-fever.com/showpost.php?p=1015105&postcount=10)

Also, please note that you can access the last voting thread (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=70945) here.

jalbright
01-12-2008, 08:49 PM
My 1/12 - 2/1/08 ballot

key:
red=Japanese League
blue=Negro Leagues
green=19th century

Cupid Childs and Wilbur Cooper replace the elected Dobie Moore and Joe Sewell

Players

1. Sal Bando, 3b
2. Akira Bessho, p (Japan)
3. Ken Boyer, 3b
4. Cupid Childs, 2b
5. Wilbur Cooper, p
6. Leon Day, p
7. Larry Doyle, 2b
8. Darrell Evans, 3b
9. Jack Glasscock, ss
10. Burleigh Grimes, p
11. Tony Mullane, p
12. Hiromitsu Ochiai 1B/3B (Japan)
13. Alejandro Oms, of
14. Dan Quisenberry, p
15. Sam Rice, of
16. Hardy Richardson, 2b
17. Eppa Rixey, p
18. Red Ruffing p
19. Joe Start, 1b
20. Vern Stephens, ss
21. Bruce Sutter, p
22. Ezra Sutton, 3b
23. Bobby Wallace, ss
24. Vic Willis, p
25. Hack Wilson, of

Anyone who wants more information on these or other players, please see my latest player voting guide (http://baseball-fever.com/showthread.php?t=68335)

Sockeye
01-13-2008, 06:45 AM
Jake Beckley, 1b
Akira Bessho, p
Ken Boyer, 3b
Roger Bresnahan, c
Pete Browning, of
Jose Canseco, of
Larry Doyle, 2b
Darrell Evans, 3b
Dwight Evans, of
Burleigh Grimes, p
Addie Joss, p
Dave Kingman, 1b
Chuck Klein, of
Edgar Martinez, 3b
Dan Quisenberry, p
Rafael Palmeiro, 1b
Sam Rice, of
Eppa Rixey, p
Red Ruffing, p
Joe Start, 1b
Bruce Sutter, p
Bobby Wallace, ss
Mickey Welch, p
Jimmy Wynn, of
Vic Willis, p

Cowtipper
01-13-2008, 07:01 AM
Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Bobby Bonds
Jim Bottomley
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Burleigh Grimes
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Heinie Manush
Al Oliver
Dan Quisenberry
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Eppa Rixey
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith
Bruce Sutter
Larry Walker
Bobby Wallace
Lloyd Waner
Mickey Welch
Vic Willis
Hack Wilson
Ross Youngs

jjpm74
01-13-2008, 10:20 AM
Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Pete Browning
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Leon Day
Larry Doyle
Lefty Gomez
Burleigh Grimes
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Rabbit Maranville
Tony Mullane
Thurman Munson
Lip Pike
Dan Quisenberry
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Joe Start
Bruce Sutter
Bobby Wallace
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

Paul Wendt
01-13-2008, 01:46 PM
nameFirst nameLast
Jake Beckley
Wally Berger
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Gavvy Cravath
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Jack Glasscock
Charley Jones
Charlie Keller
Tommy Leach
Herman Long
Cal McVey
Graig Nettles
Rafael Palmeiro
Dickey Pearce
Dan Quisenberry
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Jimmy Ryan
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Larry Walker
Bobby Wallace
Jimmy Wynn

I expect that this will change but maybe not. (Among other things, I will be traveling in two weeks until just before the polls close.) Anyway why shouldn't I be a point of reference and why should all the Eppa Rixey naysayers vote first?

This is simply my previous ballot plus Childs and Dwight Evans.
I am restricted. There I decided to stick with my three solo votes (Berger, Jones, Long) to see whether that provokes anyone else.

Most likely to drop if I see the light on Klein, Sutter, Doyle, Boyer, or Bessho: probably Evans, Palmeiro, Walker
Someone has already added a good point on Boyer, arguing for military service credit before his debut.

Captain Cold Nose
01-14-2008, 04:36 AM
Jake Beckley
Akira Bessho
Ken Boyer
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Larry Doyle
Lefty Gomez
Burleigh Grimes
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Rafael Palmeiro
Jim Rice
Spot Poles
Sam Rice
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith
Bruce Sutter
Bobby Wallace
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

dgarza
01-14-2008, 11:01 AM
Ken Boyer
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Larry Doyle
Lefty Gomez
Bob Johnson
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Edgar Martinez
Bobby Matthews
Jim McCormick
Cal McVey
Tony Mullane
Tony Oliva
Rafael Palmeiro
Jim Rice
Al Rosen
Red Ruffing
Lee Smith
Vern Stephens
Bobby Veach
Larry Walker
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

Dogdaze
01-16-2008, 03:07 PM
Jake Beckley
Chief Bender
Akira Bessho
Ken Boyer
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Leon Day
Larry Doyle
Lefty Gomez
Chuck Klein
Ernie Lombardi
Heinie Manush
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Al Oliver
Alejandro Oms
Spotswood Poles
Dan Quisenberry
Jim Rice
Sam Rice
Red Ruffing
Lee Smith
Bruce Sutter
Lloyd Waner
Mickey Welch
Hack Wilson

leecemark
01-19-2008, 12:00 PM
--My ballot dwindles by 2. I was voting for both Moore and Sewell and nobody has put forth a compelling case for bringing any of my maybes off the bench. If you strongly support anybody not on my ballot please make your pitch in the discussion thread. There are quite a few players I'm not prepared to add at this time, but whom are close enough that a good presentation could sell them to me.

Boyer, K.
Bresnahan, Roger
Childs, C.
Doyle, L.
Hernandez, K.
McVey, C.
Mullane, T.
Nettles, G
Rice, J.
Rixey, E.
Ruffing, R.
Sheckard, J.
Start, J.
Wallace, B.
Wynn, J.

TheSlaff
01-27-2008, 05:11 PM
Here's the corrected ballot:

Jake Beckley
Ken Boyer
Pete Browning
Kiki Cuyler
Larry Doyle
Bob Elliott
Dwight Evans
Burleigh Grimes
Lefty Gomez
Keith Hernandez
Addie Joss
Chuck Klein
Edgar Martinez
Cal McVey
Rafael Palmeiro
Dickey Pearce
Sam Rice
Red Ruffing
Joe Start
Vern Stephens
Bruce Sutter
Ezra Sutton
Larry Walker
Bobby Wallace
Hack Wilson

Freakshow
01-30-2008, 10:30 AM
We elected two last time, giving us a total of 227 players elected to the BBFHOF, through 56 elections. Average elections listed on my ballot jumps to 13.3, the highest in seven elections. Ken Boyer has now been on my ballot 32 times, breaking Whitaker's record; over two years I've been voting for him. Six others have now been on my ballot for more than a year and a half. The top five that I think the electorate is under-rating: 1) Darrell Evans, 2) Jack Glasscock, 3) Ken Boyer, 4) Bobby Wallace, 5) Jim Wynn.

15 Beckley-1B
32 Boyer K-3B*
3 Bresnahan-C
2 Browning P-OF*
31 Evans Da.-3B*
19 Evans Dw.-RF*
24 Glasscock-SS*
10 Grimes-P
19 Hernandez-1B*
2 Keller-LF*
3 Klein-RF
6 Martinez E-DH*
1 McVey C-C*
3 Nettles-3B*
20 Palmeiro-1B*
8 Pearce D-SS*
7 Richardson H-2B*
27 Rixey-P
28 Ruffing-P
6 Ryan J-CF*
5 Sheckard-LF*
7 Start-1B*
1 Sutton E-3B*
30 Wallace-SS
24 Wynn J-CF*
13.3 ave # of elections on ballot

* = not a member of the Coop HOF
bold = member of the Hall of Merit

Brad Harris
01-30-2008, 11:53 AM
Akira Bessho
Ken Boyer
Cupid Childs
Leon Day
Larry Doyle
Darrell Evans
Jack Glasscock
Burleigh Grimes
Edgar Martinez
Tony Mullane
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Alejandro Oms
Dan Quisenberry
Sam Rice
Hardy Richardson
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Vern Stephens
Bruce Sutter
Ezra Sutton
Bobby Wallace
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn

2Chance
01-31-2008, 03:54 AM
Bando, Sal
Bessho, Akira
Boyer, Ken
Bresnahan, Roger
Childs, Cupid
Day, Leon
Doyle, Larry
Evans, Darrell
Evans, Dwight
Glasscock, Jack
Grimes, Burleigh
Manush, Heinie
Martinez, Edgar
McVey, Cal
Ochiai, Hiromitsu
Oms, Alejandro
Pearce, Dickey
Quisenberry, Dan
Richardson, Hardy
Rixey, Eppa
Ruffing, Red
Start, Joe
Sutter, Bruce
Wallace, Bobby
Wynn, Jimmy

J W
01-31-2008, 07:10 AM
I'll star players I'm considering swapping:

Jake Beckley*
Chief Bender*
Bobby Bonds
Ken Boyer
Roger Bresnahan
Tommy Bridges*
Larry Doyle
Lefty Gomez
Addie Joss*
Chuck Klein*
Tommy Leach
Rabbit Maranville*
Edgar Martinez
Dan Quisenberry
Eppa Rixey
Jimmy Ryan
Lee Smith*
Bruce Sutter
Larry Walker
Bobby Wallace
Mickey Welch
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn
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Erik Bedard
01-31-2008, 10:34 AM
Jake Beckley
Akira Bessho
Ken Boyer
Roger Bresnahan
Tommy Bridges
Gavvy Cravath
Larry Doyle
Dwight Evans
Charlie Keller
Chuck Klein
Rabbit Maranville
Edgar Martinez
Cal McVey
Tony Oliva
Alejandro Oms
Dickey Pearce
Lip Pike
Dan Quisenberry
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Jimmy Sheckard
Reggie Smith
Joe Start
Bobby Wallace
Jimmy Wynn

AG2004
02-01-2008, 09:12 AM
My February 1, 2008 ballot

PLAYERS
Sal Bando
Akira Bessho
Bobby Bonds
Roger Bresnahan
Cupid Childs
Wilbur Cooper
Darrell Evans
Dwight Evans
Burleigh Grimes
Keith Hernandez
Charlie Keller
Tommy Leach
Hiromitsu Ochiai
Alejandro Oms
Dickey Pearce
Spotswood Poles
Dan Quisenberry
Eppa Rixey
Red Ruffing
Jimmy Sheckard
Joe Start
Bruce Sutter
Ezra Sutton
Vic Willis
Jimmy Wynn

jalbright
02-02-2008, 05:49 AM
The election is over, and we have elected four candidates: Ken Boyer, Eppa Rixey, Red Ruffing, and Bobby Wallace. More details soon.

jalbright
02-02-2008, 12:43 PM
Here's the player voting, which had 16 valid ballots. We elected Ken Boyer, Eppa Rixey, Red Ruffing and Bobby Wallace.



Players……………….... votes pct Players………………... votes pct
Ruffing, Red………... 14 87.5 Bando, Sal……….... 4 25.0
Rixey, Eppa………... 13 81.3 Beckley, Jake……... 9 56.3
Wallace, Bobby…... 13 81.3 Bender, Chief…….. 4 25.0
Boyer, Ken……….... 12 75.0 Berger, Wally……... 1 6.3
Doyle, Larry………... 11 68.8 Bessho, Akira……... 8 50.0
Quisenberry, Dan.. 11 68.8 Bonds, Bobby……... 3 18.8
Start, Joe…………... 11 68.8 Bottomley, Jim……. 1 6.3
Grimes, Burleigh….. 10 62.5 Boyer, Ken……….... 12 75.0
Klein, Chuck……….. 10 62.5 Bresnahan, Roger 9 56.3
Sutter, Bruce……... 10 62.5 Bridges, Tommy.... 2 12.5
Beckley, Jake……... 9 56.3 Browning, Pete……. 8 50.0
Bresnahan, Roger 9 56.3 Canseco, Jose…….. 1 6.3
Wynn, Jimmy……….. 9 56.3 Childs, Cupid……… 6 37.5
Bessho, Akira……... 8 50.0 Cooper, Wilbur……. 2 12.5
Browning, Pete……. 8 50.0 Cravath, Gavvy…… 2 12.5
Martinez, Edgar…… 8 50.0 Cuyler, Kiki………….. 5 31.3
Rice, Sam…………... 8 50.0 Day, Leon…………... 6 37.5
Evans, Darrell……... 7 43.8 Doyle, Larry………... 11 68.8
Evans, Dwight…….. 7 43.8 Elliott, Bob........... 1 6.3
McVey, Cal……….... 7 43.8 Evans, Darrell……... 7 43.8
Welch, Mickey…….. 7 43.8 Evans, Dwight…….. 7 43.8
Wilson, Hack……….. 7 43.8 Face, Roy………..... 1 6.3
Childs, Cupid……….. 6 37.5 Glasscock, Jack….. 5 31.3
Day, Leon…………... 6 37.5 Gomez, Lefty……... 6 37.5
Gomez, Lefty……... 6 37.5 Grimes, Burleigh….. 10 62.5
Joss, Addie……….... 6 37.5 Hernandez, Keith… 4 25.0
Oms, Alejandro……. 6 37.5 Johnson, Bob……... 1 6.3
Palmeiro, Rafael….. 6 37.5 Jones, Charley……. 1 6.3
Pearce, Dickey……. 6 37.5 Joss, Addie……….... 6 37.5
Sheckard, Jimmy…. 6 37.5 Keller, Charlie……... 3 18.8
Willis, Vic………….... 6 37.5 Kingman, Dave…... 1 6.3
Cuyler, Kiki………….. 5 31.3 Klein, Chuck……….. 10 62.5
Glasscock, Jack….. 5 31.3 Leach, Toimmy……. 3 18.8
Manush, Heinie……. 5 31.3 Lombardi, Ernie……. 3 18.8
Mullane, Tony…….. 5 31.3 Long, Herman....... 1 6.3
Ochiai, Hiromitsu… 5 31.3 Manush, Heinie……. 5 31.3
Rice, Jim………….... 5 31.3 Maranville, Rabbit 2 12.5
Richardson, Hardy 5 31.3 Martinez, Edgar…… 8 50.0
Ryan, Jimmy……….. 5 31.3 Mathews, Bobby…. 1 6.3
Smith, Lee………….. 5 31.3 McCormick, Jim…… 1 6.3
Sutton, Ezra……….. 5 31.3 McVey, Cal……….... 7 43.8
Walker, Larry……... 5 31.3 Mullane, Tony…….. 5 31.3
Bando, Sal……….... 4 25.0 Munson, Thurman.. 1 6.3
Bender, Chief……... 4 25.0 Nettles, Graig…….. 3 18.8
Hernandez, Keith… 4 25.0 Ochiai, Hiromitsu…. 5 31.3
Stephens, Vern….. 4 25.0 Oliva, Tony………... 2 12.5
Bonds, Bobby……... 3 18.8 Oliver, Al………….... 2 12.5
Keller, Charlie……... 3 18.8 Oms, Alejandro……. 6 37.5
Leach, Toimmy……. 3 18.8 Palmeiro, Rafael….. 6 37.5
Lombardi, Ernie…… 3 18.8 Pearce, Dickey……. 6 37.5
Nettles, Graig…….. 3 18.8 Pike, Lip………….... 2 12.5
Poles, Spotswood 3 18.8 Poles, Spotswood 3 18.8
Waner, Lloyd……... 3 18.8 Quisenberry, Dan.. 11 68.8
Bridges, Tommy.... 2 12.5 Rice, Jim…………..... 5 31.3
Cooper, Wilbur……. 2 12.5 Rice, Sam…………... 8 50.0
Cravath, Gavvy…… 2 12.5 Richardson, Hardy 5 31.3
Maranville, Rabbit 2 12.5 Rixey, Eppa………... 13 81.3
Oliva, Tony………... 2 12.5 Rizzuto, Phil………... 1 6.3
Oliver, Al………….... 2 12.5 Rosen, Al………….... 1 6.3
Pike, Lip………….... 2 12.5 Ruffing, Red………... 14 87.5
Berger, Wally……... 1 6.3 Ryan, Jimmy……….. 5 31.3
Bottomley, Jim……. 1 6.3 Sheckard, Jimmy…. 6 37.5
Canseco, Jose…….. 1 6.3 Smith, Lee………….. 5 31.3
Elliott, Bob........... 1 6.3 Smith, Reggie……... 1 6.3
Face, Roy………..... 1 6.3 Start, Joe…………... 11 68.8
Johnson, Bob……... 1 6.3 Stephens, Vern….. 4 25.0
Jones, Charley……. 1 6.3 Sutter, Bruce……... 10 62.5
Kingman, Dave…... 1 6.3 Sutton, Ezra……….. 5 31.3
Long, Herman....... 1 6.3 Veach, Bobby…….. 1 6.3
Mathews, Bobby…. 1 6.3 Walker, Larry……... 5 31.3
McCormick, Jim……. 1 6.3 Wallace, Bobby…... 13 81.3
Munson, Thurman.. 1 6.3 Waner, Lloyd……... 3 18.8
Rizzuto, Phil………... 1 6.3 Welch, Mickey…….. 7 43.8
Rosen, Al………….... 1 6.3 Willis, Vic………….... 6 37.5
Smith, Reggie……... 1 6.3 Wilson, Hack……….. 7 43.8
Veach, Bobby…….. 1 6.3 Wynn, Jimmy……….. 9 56.3
Youngs, Ross……... 1 6.3 Youngs, Ross……... 1 6.3