1971 Free Agent Auction

[leecemark]

--Welcome to the 1971 Free Agent auction. The live Premium Free Agent auction will commence at 8PM EST on Friday, January 23. HTD bids must be submitted at least 24 hours prior to that - 8PM EST, 1/22) to be honored.
--Ten players will be auctioned live. First priority will go to HTD players with bids of 5M or more. If there are openings in the 10 available slots after that they will go to the best expiring contracts with no HTD available
--Players in the PFA will be auctioned off one at a time. Once those players are signed the auction will convert over to open bidding on the secondary free agents (and I think some outstanding players will end up there this year). Bids may be placed freely from the end of the PFA until 8 PM, Tuesday, January 27. The final hour of the secondary auction you will be limited to one bid per post. All bids must list the full name of the player to be counted. The highest bid posted as of 9PM takes the player.
--Teams short of 40 players at this point may sign as many players as they need to make up the difference on first come, first served minimum wage deals. All teams should be at exactly 40 players by midnight EST on Wednesday, January 28. Those who end up over 40 at the close of the auction may not sign additional players and must cut down to 40. Once play begins it is permitted to sign additonal players - one after each series - as long as you have the cap space.
--If you can't make the PFA and want a player please get a bid list to someone who can proxy for you. I will be of limited availability this year as I'm bidding for two and both the Knigts and Gamblers have significant cap space to play with. If you want me to proxy for you all I will be able to do is post your maximum bid on the player. You may be able to find a better proxy with a capped out owner who plans on being there for the auction.
--All teams must post their current roster size and money committted prior to submitting a bid in the free agent auction. There are severe penalties for biddding over your available cap space.

[leecemark]

Fergie Jenkins 20.25M (24.50 to top)
Steve Carlton 13M (15.75 to top)
Dave Johnson 12M (14.50 to top)
Ken Holtzman 9.75 (11.75 to top)
Tug McGraw 7.0 (8.5 to top)
Rudy May 7.0 (8.5 to top)
Nelson Briles 6.5 (8.0 to top)
Bobby Murcer 6.0 (7.5 to top)
Jim Hunter 3.0 (3.75 to top)
Roy White

[leecemark]

Legends from Redbirds: Fergie Jenkins (20.25, 24.50 to top)
Shoeless Joes: Steve Carlton (13.0, 15.74 to top)
Skipjacks : Davey Johnson (12.0, 14.50 to top)
Urracas: Jim Merritt (2.0, 2.5 to top)
River Rats: Nelson Briles (9.0, 11M to top)
Cloverleafs: Bobby Murcer (6.0, 7.5 to top)
Hard Cider: Ken Holtzman (9.75, 11.75 to top)
Hard Cider: Dick Selma (.50, .75 to top)
Knights - Tug McGraw (7.0 bid, 8.5 to top)
Skipjacks - Bobby Tolan (.50, .75 to top)
Wrangler: Rudy May (7.0, 8.5 to top)
Cloverleafs: Catfish Hunter (3.0, 3.75 to top)
Gamblers: Paul Casanova (.50bid, .75 to top)
Knights: Jim McGlothlin (4.0 bid, 5.0 to top)
Hard Cider: Luke Walker (50, .75 to top)
Skipjacks - Paul Lindblad (2.0, 2.5 to top)
Gold Sox: Mark Belanger (.25, .50 to top)
Gold Soxs: Mike Hedlund (1.5, 2.0 to top)

[leecemark]

--Attached are all free agent batter and pitchers. A few of these may still be picked in the rookie draft, but its updated through the 54th pick. Nobody of any interest for 1971 is likely to be removed before the bidding begins. I've deleted the HTD free agents from their teams rosters for easier scouting (DMB guys I'll get one last file out with that doen before the auction).

[leecemark]

29 players under contract
66.25 million committed
33.75 available for 11 players
HTD bids of 11.0 out for Tug McGraw and Jim McGlothlin

[leecemark]

20 players under contract
58.75 million committed (includes 15.0 buyout of Rico Petrocelli)
41.25 available for 20 players
HTD bid of .50 out for Paul Casanova

[jaybird_1981]

35 players under contract
92.50 million committed :(
7.50 available for 5 players
No outstanding HTD bids

[buppers]

36 players
86.250 salary
.125 penalty - release of Steve Barber
total committed - 86.375 rounded up to 86.500
available - 13.500 for 4 players
No HTD bids out
Ed

[jterry619]

27 players under contract
93.250 million committed including a buy out of Carty's contract
6.750 million to allocate for 13 players
HTD bids to be determined and posted for Catfish Hunter and Bobby Murcer

[jkc32]

30 players under contract; 41.75 million in salaries
13 million committed for Steve Carlton (HTD)
45.25 million available for 9 players

[philkid3]

34 players signed for 80 million.
HTD bid of 2 million on Jim Meritt.

[jkc32]

--Attached are all free agent batter and pitchers. A few of these may still be picked in the rookie draft, but its updated through the 54th pick. Nobody of any interest for 1971 is likely to be removed before the bidding begins. I've deleted the HTD free agents from their teams rosters for easier scouting (DMB guys I'll get one last file out with that doen before the auction).

Broberg and Greif were taken in the rookie draft and need to be removed from your file of available pitchers.

[catcher24]

29 players under contract
66.25 million committed
33.75 available for 11 players
HTD bids of 11.0 out for Tug McGraw and Jim McGlothlin

So with the HTD offers out on the two pitchers, you have right now 77.25M committed to 31 players?

[catcher24]

The Legends have 77.75M committed for 36 players, leaving 22.25M for four players.

Including HTD offer of 20.25M to Fergie Jenkins the Legends have 98M committed to 37 players, leaving 2M for 3 players.

[catcher24]

The River Rats have 64.25M committed for 22 players, leaving 35.75M for 18 players.

Including a HTD offer of 6.5M to Nelson Briles, the River Rats have 71M committed to 24 players, leaving 29M for 16 players. 9M needed to top the bid on Briles.

Also, I'm still looking to pick up one or two players in the rookie draft for the Rats, so these totals could change by 500K if I manage to get two more.

Edited on 1-21-09 to reflect the signing of one more rookie.
Edited again on 1-22-09 to reflect the reduced bid to Nelson Briles.

[catcher24]

I'm in pretty much the same situation as Mark. I'll be bidding for the Legends and River Rats. If I keep Jenkins, my bidding will be very minimal and I could post some bids for someone, but I'll be trying to obtain at least 17 players and maybe 18 for the Rats, so I probably couldn't do much more than post some top offers, but if that's all you need I sure plan on being here.

[mac195]

Hard Cider have 31 players signed for $74.25M, plus $10.75 offered to 3 HTD free agents.

[leecemark]

So with the HTD offers out on the two pitchers, you have right now 77.25M committed to 31 players?

--Or exactly enough to overbid on Jenkins and round out the 40 man with minimum wage guys:D. Actually if I sign a pitcher in the PFA (probably not Fergie;)) I'd withdraw my HTD offer to McGlothlin. He would be my 5th starter at this time, but I wouldn't mind upgrading.
--We are prohibited from bidding the money offered to our HTD players. If you have a player in the PFA you can't withdraw that bid after Thursday when those players are locked in. You may withdraw offers in the secondary auction up until the last day - call it midnight EST next Monday.
--For the PFA I'll auction all the HTD guys first, highest bid (at this point Jenkins) going first.

[catcher24]

--For the PFA I'll auction all the HTD guys first, highest bid (at this point Jenkins) going first.

This is actually good, since if I get overbid and end up losing him I'll know it right away and be ready to bid on the other pitchers.;)

I went as high as I thought I could afford for him, especially with several other good pitchers coming on the market this off season. My inability to trade Willie McCovey has hurt for sure. I'd certainly entertain any reasonable offer for McCovey at this point.

[dust bunnies]

For 1971 the Dust Bunnies have 33 players under contract for $59.75. We therefore have up to $40.75 to spend on our remaining 7 players. Anyone wishing to check our roster and contracts may do so either at Post #6 in the Dust Bunnies' Thread or Post #26 in the Rosters' Thread.

[leecemark]

This is actually good, since if I get overbid and end up losing him I'll know it right away and be ready to bid on the other pitchers.;)

I went as high as I thought I could afford for him, especially with several other good pitchers coming on the market this off season. My inability to trade Willie McCovey has hurt for sure. I'd certainly entertain any reasonable offer for McCovey at this point.


--I wish I'd given a little more thought to my own position before posting the order I intended to auction the players off in. I think it is the fairest way, since you and other high bidders willknow if that money is spent before the lesser players go off the market, but I'd rather be able to plunk my whole bundle down on him after having a chance to get a good player or two at a bargain. He is the best pitcher for this year and that is my main concern, but going the overbid on him would leave me nothing (except minimum wage) to fill the platoon, bench and bullpen spots - or possible upgrades on okay players penciled in now. I'm going to be very reluctant to make that kind of committment to the first player on the block.

[J W]

22 players under contract
63.00 million committed
37.00 available for 18 players

HTD Bids:
Davey Johnson - $12 mil ($14.5 to top)
Paul Lindblad - $2 mil ($2.5 to top)
Bobby Tolan - $.5 mil ($.75 to top)

[leecemark]

--Well that puts Johnson in the PFA

[catcher24]

The Legends have announced that they have received communication from Bob Locker indicating that he is unhappy with the contract offered him and has decided to not accept it and pursue free agency to see what he can get on the open marker. Legends management have thus decided to withdraw their offer to Locker and have instead increased their offer to Fergie Jenkins. The Legends have now offered Jenkins 20.25M to stay, thus increasing the minimum bid for any other team to 24.5M.

I have edited my previous post, and this now puts the Legends at 77.75M for 36 players without Jenkins. Counting the Jenkins offer, the Legends are at 98M for 37 players.

Bob Locker is a free agent now with no HTD bid at this point.

Mark, would also please edit the PFA post to reflect the new offer to Jenkins? Thanks!

[J W]

At that price you might just keep him Lew. I thought you were going to let Jenkins loose and focus on Seaver next offseason...

[dust bunnies]

Mark,

What will you give me not to bid on Jenkins?

[J W]

A brand new puppy?

[leecemark]

--I hope you do bid on him. Seeing a division rival tie up nearly a quarter of their payroll on one player and having one of my primary rivals for the 1971 championship lose his best pitcher at he same time would be a terrific development for me.:cool:

[catcher24]

At that price you might just keep him Lew. I thought you were going to let Jenkins loose and focus on Seaver next offseason...

Actually, Seaver isn't a free agent until after 1972. By that time, I see where I can free up at least 28M so I should be able to make a decent bid for him at that point. I'm concentrating on keeping those two and rebuilding the rest of the team. I've already got Burt Hooton, who starts to produce next year, and Don Gullett, who's signed through 1975. Don Baylor and Cesar Cedeno should keep the OF going, although I hope to resign Reggie Smith. Santo still has three good years left, and Freehan has five. I picked up John Mayberry via trade to cover first base in 72 and 73. With two picks in the first round in 1972 and four in the first round in 1973, I should be able to keep the team going on the cheap for a while - except for Jenkins, if I keep him! The only problems I see on the horizon are at shortstop and second base.

[leecemark]

--As a reminder the deadline for HTD bids is 8PM EST tomorrow. As of that time bids may no longer be submitted or adjusted (they can still be withdrawn up until the biding opens for PFA players or Monday for secondary auction players. Any HTD player who hasn't received a bid by the deadline will be an unrestricted free agent. Still waiting on the Leafs, who have a tough decision with 2 stars - Catfish Hunter and Bobby Murcer - eligible and very little cap space. Also on the Wranglers who have Rudy May eligble.

[catcher24]

--I hope you do bid on him. Seeing a division rival tie up nearly a quarter of their payroll on one player and having one of my primary rivals for the 1971 championship lose his best pitcher at he same time would be a terrific development for me.:cool:

The thing is, if I lose Jenkins that's one less competitor when I go after Hunter to replace him!:thumbsup: Check out the next five seasons and Hunter is probably the better of the two. Just for your info, Jack;)....

I actually considered withdrawing my bid on Jenkins and going after Hunter instead, but Fergie's been such a horse for my team that I want to keep him if I can.

[leecemark]

--Jenkins is worth a king's ransom this year, but he isn't a 20+ pitcher on a long term deal IMO. I was considering topping you orginal bid and then buying him out next year as part of my rebuild/high draft choice stragey for 72. I can't do that at 24M and I doubt he makes sense for anybody else at that price. The advantage for the Legends, of course, is they get him at leass than it would cost anybody else. 20.25 probaly does lock Fergie in, but it might not be enough for Catfish. He is probably worth a little more to the Legends than he would be to anybody else anyway. I know I'm willing to pay alittle premium to keep players who have been important to the Knights.

[J W]

I for one think the program is going to treat Jenkins very well through his "lean" years whether he stays in Shea stadium or goes to an even less-friendly HR park. In real life, he lost a lot of balls over the Wrigley Field fences but his WHIP remained consistently among the best in the league. I have Jenkins and Hunter at a comparable value.

[buppers]

--This is a tenative list for now. The final 10 won't be determined until all HTD bids are in on Thrusday.

Fergie Jenkins 29.25M (24.50 to top)
Steve Carlton 13M (15.75 to top)
Dave Johnson 12M (14.50 to top)
Ken Holtzman 9.75 (11.75 to top)
Nelson Briles 9.0 (11.0 to top)
Tug McGraw 7.0 (8.5 to top)

Joe Coleman
Jim Hunter
Bobby Murcer
Roy White
Fergie Jenkins 29.25M??????

[jaybird_1981]

Fergie Jenkins 29.25M??????

Typo, should be 20.25 million.

[philkid3]

I have Jenkins and Hunter at a comparable value.
I have Jenkins ahead of Hunter, though not by much. Though Hunter may make more sense for a team who's playing for the future more than the now.

I'm out of the bidding on Jenkins, though. My limit was 18 million.

[leecemark]

--Judging by the conversation here my hopes that Hunter might go at a reasonable price appear certain to be dashed. I hope there will be some reasonable buys. Hate to think I'd cleared all this cap space for nothing:ughh.

[Erik Bedard]

--I hope you do bid on him. Seeing a division rival tie up nearly a quarter of their payroll on one player and having one of my primary rivals for the 1971 championship lose his best pitcher at he same time would be a terrific development for me.:cool:

May be terrific, but it's by no means a development. I've been using that exact strategy every year I've been in this league (until 1970).

Gold Sox financials:

23 players signed, 89.5M

[catcher24]

--Judging by the conversation here my hopes that Hunter might go at a reasonable price appear certain to be dashed. I hope there will be some reasonable buys. Hate to think I'd cleared all this cap space for nothing:ughh.

Well, with all that cap space you could pick up Willie McCovey....

[catcher24]

--Jenkins is worth a king's ransom this year, but he isn't a 20+ pitcher on a long term deal IMO

I figure a Cy Young season, a 2nd place finish and a 3rd place finish are worth it to me, especially since I hope to keep him anyway.

[jaybird_1981]

I figure a Cy Young season, a 2nd place finish and a 3rd place finish are worth it to me, especially since I hope to keep him anyway.

If McNally is a 20+ pitcher then Jenkins is too :grouchy

[Hack_Miller]

Wranglers place a 7 M bid on Rudy May (HTD).

Currently we have 33 players under contract at 75.75 M. May would put the team at 34 for 82.75 M.

KW

[jkc32]

Lots of pre-draft posturing going on.:rolleyes::blah: It's a safe bet that both Jenkins/Palmer will go for 20M+. The Joe's are still undecided on which of the 2 will be going Shoeless for the next 6 seasons.;)

[J W]

Palmer's a franchise :supe: player making a very reasonable :flow:12 mil.

Haha, new smileys everyone!

[catcher24]

Palmer's a franchise player making a very reasonable 12 mil.

Well. I guess that takes care of that decision for Shoeless and it looks like I'd better start planning on who I need to bid on, since it sounds like Joe will be taking Fergie from me.:hissyfit: But I think you still might want to look at Hunter instead, Joe. If I was paying straight up for both and neither was playing for me (I have a discount on Fergie), Catfish would probably be my choice. Check out the numbers. Sure wish I had more :flow: to keep Fergie, but can't afford to go any higher. If I lose Jenkins it wll be the end :rip: of the Legends four season run with leagues best record :supe: and it will create some rainy days :rainy: in Legends land.

There, I guess that about covers the new smilies!:nod:

[catcher24]

Actually, let me help you out here, Joe.

Season................Jenkins..................... ...Hunter
1971.......1.05 WHIP/142 ERA+/325 IP.....1.11 WHIP/114 ERA+/274IP
1972.............1.09/119/289.....................0.91/140/295
1973.............1.20/101/271.....................1.14/107/256
1974.............1.01/126/328.....................0.99/134/318
1975.............1.17/95/270.......................1.01/144/328

Hunter has the better season four out of five years. No doubt in my mind who I'd take if it was dollar for dollar without a discount. Looks like Hunter is the premier free agent this off season.

[catcher24]

The Queen City River Rats have announced that they are reducing their HTD bid on pitcher Nelson Briles to 6.5M.

This leaves the River Rats with 64.5M in contracts to 23 players without the Briles bid, and 71M for 24 players committed with the Briles bid. This leaves 29M for 16 players.

Mark, please make the change on the master list and I'll change my original post. Thanks!

[dust bunnies]

Friday nights being family night for us, I have just learned that I will not be available for most of the premier FA auction. If anyone who is available but not really planning to be active wishes to bid on my behalf, please let me know. If anyone knows of any other options I might have, please advise. Otherwise I'll just pick up whom I need to complete my roster in the following FA draft.

Thanks.

Jack

[mac195]

Family ahead of the PFA auction?! Somebody needs to get their priorities straightened out.

[dust bunnies]

Anyone who thinks that a FANTASY draft takes priority over family night has either never been married, or is currently divorced.

[leecemark]

--I think the third option is that somebody's sense of humor has deserted them this morning:happy:

[dust bunnies]

Based upon my acquisition of Don Kessinger, the Dust Bunnies now have

33 players under contract
$62.75 committed
$37.25 available for FA

[jaybird_1981]

Anyone who thinks that a FANTASY draft takes priority over family night has either never been married, or is currently divorced.

My fiancee' is pretty understanding of my dorkiness :happy:. As long as I watch American Idol with her :banghead:.

[jterry619]

27 players under contract
93.250 million committed including a buy out of Carty's contract
6.750 million to allocate for 13 players
HTD bids to be determined and posted for Catfish Hunter and Bobby Murcer


84,250,000 committed to 25 players including buyout of Carty

HTD bid on Bobby Murcer $6,000,000

HTD bid on Catfish Hunter $3,000,000

[catcher24]

HTD bid on Catfish Hunter $3,000,000

That's just a waste of good pixels, Joe!;)

I figure him to go for six or seven times that, at least. But you know, in looking at what everyone has in cap space, there isn't a lot of money out there except for four teams, two of which are under receivership and won't commit to any really big contracts. And with Jack not being present for the Dust Bunnies, the Shoeless Joes may pick up a great deal on someone! Still three teams not posted though - Gold Sox, Brawlers and Thunder, so I don't know how much they might have available.

[jkc32]

Lots of pre-draft posturing going on.:rolleyes::blah: It's a safe bet that both Jenkins/Palmer will go for 20M+. The Joe's are still undecided on which of the 2 will be going Shoeless for the next 6 seasons.;)

Meant Jenkins/Hunter. A slip of the fingers.

Breathe easy Lew, I may change my mind and not bid on either. Still working on a few things here in Shoeville.

[dust bunnies]

And with Jack not being present for the Dust Bunnies, the Shoeless Joes may pick up a great deal on someone! How do you all get this to come out blue?

Fear not, the Dust Bunnies will be present by proxie. The proxie will have instructions to outbid everyone until the money runs out.:blah:

[jterry619]

That's just a waste of good pixels, Joe!;)

I figure him to go for six or seven times that, at least. But you know, in looking at what everyone has in cap space, there isn't a lot of money out there except for four teams, two of which are under receivership and won't commit to any really big contracts. And with Jack not being present for the Dust Bunnies, the Shoeless Joes may pick up a great deal on someone! Still three teams not posted though - Gold Sox, Brawlers and Thunder, so I don't know how much they might have available.

lol..yeah I know but I wasn't about to let someone start low....hehe

[mac195]

Anyone who thinks that a FANTASY draft takes priority over family night has either never been married, or is currently divorced.
I was joking.

[mac195]

HTD bid on Bobby Murcer $6,000,000

HTD bid on Catfish Hunter $3,000,000

So was he.

[leecemark]

--The PFA will be auctionedoff in this order...

Fergie Jenkins 20.25M (24.50 to top)
Steve Carlton 13M (15.75 to top)
Dave Johnson 12M (14.50 to top)
Ken Holtzman 9.75 (11.75 to top)
Tug McGraw 7.0 (8.5 to top)
Rudy May 7.0 (8.5 to top)
Nelson Briles 6.5 (8.0 to top)
Bobby Murcer 6.0 (7.5 to top)
Jim Hunter 3.0 (3.75 to top)
Roy White (unrestricted)

[philkid3]

Argh. I'm in a tough spot now. I want Carlton, but less than several people going after him.

But. . . if I can't get them, I'd like Carlton. . .

[leecemark]

--Yeah, its not an ideal alignment for me either. I said up front that I'd go high HTD bid to low and only after the 5+ HTD bids were all in would there be room for unrestricted guys. The Leafs cap issues have Hunter and Murcer going later than they should strictly on merit and that will complicate bidding for some teams, including my own. Not so much for Murcer, since there are only 3 position players in the PFA and Murcer will be the first outfielder on the block.
--Hunter is at least arguably the best SP on the block though and going up after Jenkins and Carlton plus 2nd tier SP Briles and May would mean that somebody gets a bargain on them - or maybe a bargain on Hunter if teams aren't willing to risk the SP needs on waiting for the shot at him. Unless you are really targeting 1972 Carlton probably isn't worth beating the HTD bid. If you are really targeting 1971 then Jenkins could be (I am, but he is already priced out of my budget). Holtzman has an off year this season, but is a good long term bet for anybody who can afford to live with a por first season.

[Erik Bedard]

Hunter is IMO the best starter on the block. I would absolutely not say no to any of the other five, and may even try bidding on one or two of them, but if I could have my pick, and only get one, price being equal, I'd take Hunter.

[Windy City Fan]

The Thunder have a total salary of 74.75 Million, 23 players signed.

[leecemark]

--I'd like to get this off to a quick start tonight and keep the pace moving. Fergie Jenkins is first up and has a 20.25 HTD bid from the Legends. If any other team wants to bid on him they need to come up with 24.50. If nobody gets such a bid up by 8:01 ESt he sticks with the Legends and we move on to Steve Carlton. Hope to see a good turn out and some spirited bidding tonight!

[philkid3]

FWIW, I'm definitely out on Jenkins.

[jterry619]

--I'd like to get this off to a quick start tonight and keep the pace moving. Fergie Jenkins is first up and has a 20.25 HTD bid from the Legends. If any other team wants to bid on him they need to come up with 24.50. If nobody gets such a bid up by 8:01 ESt he sticks with the Legends and we move on to Steve Carlton. Hope to see a good turn out and some spirited bidding tonight!


well I can come up with the .50 if somebody wants to put up the balance and let me use Fergie every 20th game or so..

[Erik Bedard]

If anybody wants Felipe Alou or Stan Bahnsen or Nolan Ryan or Ken Sanders, let me know. I'll take draft picks for any of them.

[leecemark]

--Neither the Knights or Gamblers will be in on Jenkins.

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox and Dust Bunnies will also pass on Jenkins.

I assume we are going by BBF time, as usual?

[leecemark]

--BBF time will be our official time. Its running pretty close to real time today though - instead of its usual 10-15 minutes late.

[mac195]

No to Jenkins...

Could somebody post up the defensive ratings of the PFA position players?

[jaybird_1981]

I will also pass on Jenkins.

[leecemark]

No to Jenkins...

Could somebody post up the defensive ratings of the PFA position players?

Johnson AV at 2B
Murcer AV at CF
White AV at LF

[catcher24]

Hunter is IMO the best starter on the block. I would absolutely not say no to any of the other five, and may even try bidding on one or two of them, but if I could have my pick, and only get one, price being equal, I'd take Hunter.

Of the guys up for auction tonight, and based on a five year deal, I'd rank the pitchers Hunter, Jenkins, Carlton by a hair over Holtzman, McGraw, and a toss up between May and Briles.

[catcher24]

I'm here. I'll have money to spend if someone takes Fergie; if not, I'll still be bidding for the River Rats, and I also have a proxy for the Wranglers if Kenley isn't able to be here.

[catcher24]

Dan, did you put up the salary numbers for the Gold Sox? I don't recall seeing them, but I might have missed it. I didn't find the Brawlers anywhere, either.

[Windy City Fan]

I'm here and the Thunder will be passing on Jenkins as well. We got four solid starters in Sutton, Cuellar, Kline, and Drago.

[jkc32]

Shoeless will pass on Jenkins.

[philkid3]

How many people still need to pass on Jenkins?

[mac195]

Johnson AV at 2B
Murcer AV at CF
White AV at LF
Thanks, Mark.

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox financials:

23 players signed, 89.5M

Post 38

Left out 1.75M committed to Belanger and Hedlund HTD bids, leaving me with... not a lot to spend tonight. 4.5M to be exact.

So unless somebody wants Felipe Alou, I'll be bidding only for the Dust Bunnies tonight.

[J W]

Skipjacks pass on Jenkins.

[catcher24]

Post 38

Left out 1.75M committed to Belanger and Hedlund HTD bids, leaving me with... not a lot to spend tonight. 4.5M to be exact.

So unless somebody wants Felipe Alou, I'll be bidding only for the Dust Bunnies tonight.

Yup, sorry Dan, I missed it. Should have figured you'd be on top of it.

[leecemark]

--Congrats Lew, you get to keep Fergie.
--Next up Steve carlton. Shoeless has a 13M HTD bid. 15.75 to top.

[Erik Bedard]

I'm seeing 8:03 PM, so Jenkins remains a Legend?

[J W]

Post 38

Left out 1.75M committed to Belanger and Hedlund HTD bids, leaving me with... not a lot to spend tonight. 4.5M to be exact.

So unless somebody wants Felipe Alou, I'll be bidding only for the Dust Bunnies tonight.

Is that enough $$$ to sign up to 40 players at minimum wage?

[leecemark]

--Knights and Gamblers pass.

[catcher24]

OK, probably overpaid but worth it to keep him a Legend. I'll decide how many years and post it in a bit.

[Windy City Fan]

Pass on Carlton as well.

[jaybird_1981]

Iron Pass on Carlton

[Erik Bedard]

Is that enough $$$ to sign up to 40 players at minimum wage?

Counting that in it. 17 empty spots would be 4.25M, plus 1.75M is 6M of my 10.5M available.

[catcher24]

Incidentally, the Legends will now be passing on all remaining players being auctioned off tonight....:laugh:waving

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies and Gold Sox pass on Carlton.

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Steve Carlton.

[J W]

G'night Lew!

Oh darn -- forgot you're proxy-ing... :ughh:D

[leecemark]

13.0 going once

[J W]

mmmh- almost, Pass on Carlton.

[leecemark]

Going twice..........

[Erik Bedard]

Incidentally, the Legends will now be passing on all remaining players being auctioned off tonight....:laugh:waving

The Gold Sox don't have enough to spend on anybody other than Hunter (who we'll be way outbid on) and White (who we don't even want).

So I'm just here for the Dust Bunnies.

[jaybird_1981]

The Gold Sox don't have enough to spend on anybody other than Hunter (who we'll be way outbid on) and White (who we don't even want).

So I'm just here for the Dust Bunnies.


I am just here for the conversation :blush:

[catcher24]

The Gold Sox don't have enough to spend on anybody other than Hunter (who we'll be way outbid on) and White (who we don't even want).

So I'm just here for the Dust Bunnies.

You're a good man, Dan. Plus it's fun to spend someone else's money.:happy::thumbsup:

[leecemark]

--Carlton stays home.
--Next up is Davey Johnson. The Skipjacks have a 12.0 HTD bid. 14.50 to top.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies pass

[mac195]

pass.......

[leecemark]

--Again the Knights and Gamblers pass

[Windy City Fan]

Pass. If I didn't have other holes to plug, I'd so go for it. His 71 and 73 seasons are easily worth the price tag.

[jaybird_1981]

The Iron also pass.

[leecemark]

--Going once..........

[jkc32]

Shoeless passes on Johnson.

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Davey Johnson.

[leecemark]

--Quick pace so far - as it should be with no competing bids. I'll take a moment to remind everyone that bids in the secondary auction won't be counted until after the winners posts from the PFA go up. Also there will be a list of secondary HTD players to go up as opening bids.

[leecemark]

going twice..........

[catcher24]

--Quick pace so far - as it should be with no competing bids. I'll take a moment to remind everyone that bids in the secondary auction won't be counted until after the winners posts from the PFA go up. Also there will be a list of secondary HTD players to go up as opening bids.

How soon is that likely to be, Mark? I have some bids for the Rats I'd like to get in before I have to go.

[leecemark]

--Another one stays with his original club.
--Next up Ken Holtzman. The Hard Cider have a 9.75 HTD bid. 11.75 to top.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies 11.75

[jkc32]

Shoeless passes on Holtzman.

[catcher24]

Didn't figure Holtzman would go that cheap. I'd almost rather have him than Carlton except for that incredible 1972 season.

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Holtzman.

[jaybird_1981]

Iron will pass on Holtzman

[leecemark]

How soon is that likely to be, Mark? I have some bids for the Rats I'd like to get in before I have to go.

--It won't be more than a couple mintes after the last PFA. NOt nearly as complicated as the secondary wrapup.

[J W]

Skipjacks pass on Holtzman

[Windy City Fan]

Pass on Holtzman and yeah, he's arguably better than Carlton for a five year duration.

[catcher24]

--It won't be more than a couple mintes after the last PFA. NOt nearly as complicated as the secondary wrapup.

OK, that shouldn't be any problem then. Have to take my youngest back to college for the final semester tomorrow.

[leecemark]

11.75 going once

[leecemark]

going twice...........

[leecemark]

--Sold to the Dust Bunnies at 11.75

[leecemark]

--Next up Tug McGraw. The Knights have a 7.0 HTD. 8.5 to top.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies pass

[catcher24]

Wow, that's a good deal. I'd probably lock him up for five years at that price. Nice work, Dan.

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on McGraw.

[jkc32]

Shoeless passes on McGraw.

[jaybird_1981]

Iron pass on Tug

[Windy City Fan]

pass on McGraw

[J W]

Pass on McGraw

[leecemark]

--That is a bargain on Holtzman. I couldn't afford to tie up that much for the Knights when he doesn't contribute much this year. Big bucks for LHP in Fenway didn't make much sense for the Gamblers.

[leecemark]

McGraw going once........

[leecemark]

going twice..........

[J W]

Personally I think it's nice seeing some of the HTD bids stand this time.

[leecemark]

--Welcome back, Tug:happy:

[leecemark]

Next up Rudy May. The Wranglers have a 7.0 HTD bid. 8.5 to top.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies 8.5

[mac195]

Pass on May.

[leecemark]

Personally I think it's nice seeing some of the HTD bids stand this time.

--This auction is looking like a good arguement that we don't need to bump it up to 30%.

[J W]

Skipjacks pass. Last name before the fireworks start...

[jkc32]

Shoeless passes on May.

[leecemark]

8.5 going once........

[jaybird_1981]

Iron pass on May.

[leecemark]

Skipjacks pass. Last name before the fireworks start...

--I'm not expecting too much Nellie Briles frenzy, but we'll see soon...

[leecemark]

8.5 going twice............

[J W]

--This auction is looking like a good arguement that we don't need to bump it up to 30%.

It's about figuring out the market. We're all getting a little wiser. After the rest of the premium names are done, it looks like we'll have 4/9 successes.

[catcher24]

Wranglers bid 9M on May

[leecemark]

--I don't think we can read much into Hunter and Murcer's bids not sticking. With the Leafs cap constraints the HTD could be 100% (heck 500% on Hunter) and it wouldn't have keep them in Birmingham.

[J W]

Okay okay, 4/7

[leecemark]

9m going once.........

[catcher24]

--I don't think we can read much into Hunter and Murcer's bids not sticking. With the Leafs cap constraints the HTD could be 100% (heck 500% on Hunter) and it wouldn't have keep them in Birmingham.

Agreed. I think Joe could have gone as high as I did on Jenkins for Hunter and may still have gotten a bid from somebody. Would've been me, actually, had I lost Hunter. I was prepared to go to 20M on him.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies 10M

[catcher24]

Wranglers bid 10.5M on May.

[philkid3]

Dammit, I wanted to bid on Carlton and I had computer issues.

:(

[leecemark]

Wranglers bid 10.5M on May.

--Thats going to hurt after the first year

[jaybird_1981]

I like this bidding war for May by proxy.

[leecemark]

10.5 going once.........

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies bid 11M

[Erik Bedard]

Sorry, I'm multitasking a bit.

[catcher24]

Wranglers pass on Rudy May, as do the River Rats.

[J W]

Wow... is May going to go for more than Holtzman?

[mac195]

Ru dy, Ru dy!

[catcher24]

--Thats going to hurt after the first year

I agree and was a little surprised Kenley instructed me to go that high on him. I wouldn't have done it myself.

[leecemark]

11.0 going once...........

[leecemark]

going twice...........

[catcher24]

Dammit, I wanted to bid on Carlton and I had computer issues.

:(

Leaves you all the more for Hunter who is a much better buy over the next five years.

[philkid3]

Leaves you all the more for Hunter who is a much better buy over the next five years.

If I get him. . .

[leecemark]

--Sold to the Dust Bunnies

[J W]

By all means, keep him out of the Hulbert

[Erik Bedard]

I agree and was a little surprised Kenley instructed me to go that high on him. I wouldn't have done it myself.

Yeah, my limit on May would've been about 8M, but Jack said to go higher, so I did.

One more call for somebody to take Felipe Alou off my hands. If you've got cap room (5.5M), he's a good backup/60% starter this season and next (or is it next season and '73?)

[leecemark]

--Nellie Briles on the block. The River Rats have a 6.5 HTD bid. 8.0 to top.

[catcher24]

By all means, keep him out of the Hulbert

I have a hunch he (Hunter, that is) may end up in the Chadwick...

[jkc32]

Shoeless passes on Briles.

[Erik Bedard]

Dust Bunnies pass.

Gold Sox may be interested in bidding if somebody will take Alou.

[leecemark]

Gamblers bid 8.0

[jaybird_1981]

The Iron pass on Briles

[J W]

passsssssss

[philkid3]

Pass on him.

[leecemark]

going once............

[leecemark]

going twice...............

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Briles.

[leecemark]

--Sold to the Gamblers

[leecemark]

--Next up Bobby Murcer. The Cloverleafs have a HTD bid of 6.0. 7.5 to top.

[leecemark]

--Knights bid 8.0

[philkid3]

7.5 for Murcer

[philkid3]

Nevermind, I'll make it 8.5

[catcher24]

River Rats bid 9M on Murcer

[leecemark]

Knights 10.0

[philkid3]

11 million on Murcer.

[mac195]

Cider 11M for Murcer

[leecemark]

12.0 for the Knights

[mac195]

11.5 million.....

[philkid3]

13 million for Urracas.

[Erik Bedard]

I will give each team in the Memorial 250K to let Murcer go to a Carter team.

[mac195]

12.5m........

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Murcer.

Wranglers pass on Murcer.

Legends wish they had more money for Murcer....:laugh

[Erik Bedard]

Oh, and Dust Bunnies pass.

[jkc32]

Shoeless bids $14M for Murcer.

[leecemark]

Knights 13.50

[philkid3]

14.5 for Murcer

[leecemark]

Make that 14.50

[mac195]

I'll pass too...

[jkc32]

Shoeless bids $16M for Murcer.

[leecemark]

Okay 15.0 - if I'm not too late again:blush:

[Erik Bedard]

Shoeless bids $16M for Murcer.
Everybody else stop right now. Please.

[leecemark]

--I guess it isn't meant to be. Knights pass.

[philkid3]

Done with Murcer.

[leecemark]

16.0 going once............

[leecemark]

16.0 going twice

[catcher24]

Oh, boy. The Chadwick will get Catfish Hunter AND Bobby Murcer...:supe:

[leecemark]

--Sold to Shoeless for 16.0

[catcher24]

--Sold to Shoeless for 16.0

That's actually a pretty decent buy for the first three years. Nice going, Joe. Now all you need is Willie McCovey at first to beef up that lineup....:happy:

[jaybird_1981]

Oh, boy. The Chadwick will get Catfish Hunter AND Bobby Murcer...:supe:


:banghead:

[Windy City Fan]

Murcer and Holtzman have been the two biggest deals of the night I think.

[jkc32]

Would love to have McCovey

[leecemark]

--And now the moment we've all been waiting for - Catfish Hunter on the block. The Cloverleafs have a HTD bid of 3.0:blush:. 3.75 to top. I'll get the Badgers proxy of 8.0 up now to speed things along. Doubt that is even half way to where we end up.

[catcher24]

:banghead:

Yup. Glad I'm not you...:rolleyes:

[Erik Bedard]

--And now the moment we've all been waiting for - Catfish Hunter on the block. The Cloverleafs have a HTD bid of 3.0:blush:. 3.75 to top. I'll get the Badgers proxy of 8.0 up now to speed things along. Doubt that is even half way to where we end up.
Gold Sox 4.5M

[catcher24]

The Wranglers bid 12.5M for Hunter.

[philkid3]

13 million for Hunter.

[Erik Bedard]

Never mind, guess I'll pass then.

[J W]

Skipjacks pass and warm up the popcorn

[catcher24]

River Rats pass on Hunter.

[leecemark]

That's actually a pretty decent buy for the first three years. Nice going, Joe. Now all you need is Willie McCovey at first to beef up that lineup....:happy:

--Its a great bargain for this year and next. Murcer is a legit MVP candidate this season and could be a contender next year as well.

[leecemark]

Knights 14.0

[Erik Bedard]

--Its a great bargain for this year and next. Murcer is a legit MVP candidate this season and could be a contender next year as well.
Hence my not wanting him in the Gold Sox' league.

[philkid3]

15 million for Hunter.

[mac195]

16 million.........

[catcher24]

Wranglers bid 14.5M for Hunter.

[jkc32]

Hence my not wanting him in the Gold Sox' league.

Weekend is still early. He hasn't been fitted for socks yet.

[philkid3]

Done with Hunter.

See why I'm angry at my computer?! I really could have used Carlton.

[catcher24]

Would love to have McCovey

Gary Nolan brings him to Cincinnati.

[leecemark]

--Knights 16.5

[jkc32]

Gary Nolan brings him to Cincinnati.

Fair enough deal but I'm going to keep Nolan.

[catcher24]

16 million.........

Will Catfish go for less than Fergie?

[mac195]

17 million...

[philkid3]

God, I'm going to go punch someone now. I really, really want Carlton.

[jaybird_1981]

Will Catfish go for less than Fergie?

If Catfish doesn't get 20 I don't understand this league.

[catcher24]

Fair enough deal but I'm going to keep Nolan.

When you end up with Catfish you'll one heck of a staff over there, Joe.

[J W]

Done with Hunter.

See why I'm angry at my computer?! I really could have used Carlton.

It happened to me too before. I sympathize.

[catcher24]

If Catfish doesn't get 20 I don't understand this league.

We haven't heard from your division mate yet. I have a hunch he's holding back until the bidding gets slow...

[jkc32]

When you end up with Catfish you'll one heck of a staff over there, Joe.
Just waiting for the bidders to thin out first.:happy:

[leecemark]

Knights 17.5

[mac195]

18 million.....