Citi Field

[mistermet]

Your right it doesnt look that bad. However it looks about the same as these players who are the same age.

Morneau 2006 stats age 25
AB 592, Runs 97, HR's 34, RBI's 130, Avg .321

M. Cabrera 2008 age 25
AB 616, Runs 85, HR's 37, RBI's 127, Avg .292

A. Gonzalez 2008 age 25
AB 616, Runs, 103, HR's 36, RBI's 119, Avg .279

All have similiar stats. So his numbers arent eye popping at all compared to other corner infielders. DIME A DOZEN like I said

um you cannot call these guys "dime a dozen" since it would take an arm and a leg to actually acquire them! dime a dozen means that you could just find a David Wright caliber player anywhere in the league. funny...didn't realize the Phillies or the Nationals, among other teams, had a 3Bman similar to David Wright.

[Dishy24]

I can give you a valid bus pass and some gum...

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:m1o_3q7KNsU9iM:http://joshmadison.com/images/uploads/blog/vzw-kindle-004.jpg

LOL!!! Love that guy!!

[CFmets09]

lincoln ad is off the bullpen lol

[Greg B.]

lincoln ad is off the bullpen lol

Shhhh! This is the place to discuss trading David Wright for Cody Ransom. :crazy

[keyman]

Has anybody had issues bringing their camera into Citifield? I know I have seen tons of pictures of the place but my friend wants to bring his camera/camera bag and I dont know how stingy they are about semi professional equipment. Any tips? Is there a length of lens they deem too long?

Thanks

I've brought my nikon dslr with long zoom and battery holder - looks like a pro set-up . 4 games so far and no problem. If security were to give you a problem at one gate , I would simply try a different gate.

[Shbmets]

lincoln ad is off the bullpen lol

Unfortunately the Xerox ad is still there and so are the ridiculous tarps:hissyfit:


The TV shot still looks like they're looking at the visiting bullpen through a cracked open door.

[BMF]

Has anybody had issues bringing their camera into Citifield? I know I have seen tons of pictures of the place but my friend wants to bring his camera/camera bag and I dont know how stingy they are about semi professional equipment. Any tips? Is there a length of lens they deem too long?

Thanks

I bring mine in every game no one said a word yet. I'm gonna bring it tomoro too anyone wanna meet up

[BMF]

anybody going to the game tonight? if so can you take a pic of a shack burger and post it here so I can pretend i'm eating it? kthnx

Lmao I'll have one for you tomoro

[MetsFan24]

Unfortunately the Xerox ad is still there and so are the ridiculous tarps:hissyfit:


The TV shot still looks like they're looking at the visiting bullpen through a cracked open door.
i can imagine the tarps will be gone by summer, when all the wet weather goes away. the lincoln ad removal was the 1st step, one can only hope the xerox one will be gone soon enough.

[peterrod16]

i can imagine the tarps will be gone by summer, when all the wet weather goes away. the lincoln ad removal was the 1st step, one can only hope the xerox one will be gone soon enough.

the xerox ad should go to the left of the citi sign in right center field
very good crowd tonight.
I think castillo should go back into the 2 hole

[ribant]

I'm going tonight but I have seats in the Ceaser Club Bronze. I'm bringing my regular tickets with me and I'm either getting face or nothing at all. If someone looking for tickets tries to haggle I'm just going to look at them and say Nice Night! It's Friday! Johan is pitching. $15 a piece. Take or or leave it. I'd rather eat the thing then give someone the satisfaction of haggling me for $2 or $3 stinkin dollars...It's the principle of the thing at this stage.

So, how did it go?

[peterrod16]

value game johan pitching and a beautiful night = 40,522 fans
in my eyes make the five tier pricing should be cut to three
value bronze and platinum.
For Full season ticket holders give them a discount
value pricing for your full Season tickets
partial plan gets bronze pricing
$30 for LF/RF Reserve is a great deal.

[nymdan]

Haha, believe it or not, this is an AP photo from tonight's game...
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1269/nyjj1080424221024x768.jpg

[Mister B.]

value game johan pitching and a beautiful night = 40,522 fans
in my eyes make the five tier pricing should be cut to three
value bronze and platinum.
For Full season ticket holders give them a discount
value pricing for your full Season tickets
partial plan gets bronze pricing
$30 for LF/RF Reserve is a great deal.

I don't think they're planning to tamper with the pricing at this point. But I'm taking a perverse satisfaction in watching their master plan crumble - the one where it was going to be a football-like, full STH situation across the board, with a waiting list of course, where they could charge whatever they want forever.

Six months ago - hell, maybe even four months ago, they were being evasive about whether they would even offer partial plans, never mind game by game. Compare that with today's full-page ad in the Daily News pushing single-game tix for all six games on this homestand, and all the TV ads.

Even though I'd do better when selling seats on the secondary market if there was no supply at the box office, it's still satisfying watching them get a comeuppance of sorts.

[5ivese7enf15teen]

Shhhh! This is the place to discuss trading David Wright for Cody Ransom. :crazy

The nerve of these people to actually talk about Citi Field in a Citi Field thread, eh???!!! :noidea

Let's get back to trading Wright for whats-his-face, PLEASE?!? :hissyfit:

[nymdan]

sweet we can finally meet up
also i think we are both going to mets vs phils next saturday(weather permitting)
I'll be there on Sunday, not Saturday.

[metsforever7515]

WOO! We finally won again. Ah. Still terrible RISP. 2-18, 13 LOB, Ugh.

[metsforever7515]

Haha, believe it or not, this is an AP photo from tonight's game...
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1269/nyjj1080424221024x768.jpg

This field is like infested with animals! First the dog, then the cat OD, and now a squirrel?

[nymdan]

There's more of a chance of an animal crossing the plate than a Met.

[metsforever7515]

There's more of a chance of an animal crossing the plate than a Met.

Maybe they can get runners in with RISP.

And we could sign that girl that threw the Little League no hitter - I'd rather have her out there than Ollie. :laugh:laugh:laugh

[metsforever7515]

sweet we can finally meet up
also i think we are both going to mets vs phils next saturday(weather permitting)

Mets vs. Phils next Saturday is in Philly? Good luck!

[johnql]

Maybe they can get runners in with RISP.

And we could sign that girl that threw the Little League no hitter - I'd rather have her out there than Ollie. :laugh:laugh:laugh

She's throwing out the ceremonial first pitch tomorrow afternoon.

[supremebeing002]

I can give you a valid bus pass and some gum...

http://tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:m1o_3q7KNsU9iM:http://joshmadison.com/images/uploads/blog/vzw-kindle-004.jpg

LOL!! That is great!!

Postscript: I ate the tickets. Screw it. Had a great time in the Ceasers Club AND the Mets won. Tomorrow is another day...of selling :)

[metsforever7515]

She's throwing out the ceremonial first pitch tomorrow afternoon.

There's a start.... :laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

[jnakamura]

This field is like infested with animals! First the dog, then the cat OD, and now a squirrel?

That's because the closer you get to the chop shops, the more rodents you have--and the cats to chase them...and the dog to chase the cats. ;)

[CFmets09]

damn squirrels

[Saltzy23]

She's throwing out the ceremonial first pitch tomorrow afternoon.
Cant be any worse that the Sr. Editor of Mode magazine throwing out the 1st pich tonight...

7 different times...

Until they got it JUST right for the episode of Ugly Betty they were filming, of course...

(When the hell did we start to suck THIS much as a culture again?)

[CFmets09]

................

[Ralf]

Haha, believe it or not, this is an AP photo from tonight's game...
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1269/nyjj1080424221024x768.jpg

That squirrel jumped right in front of me tonight. I was sitting in section 133, row A tonight and all of a sudden this squirrel camp out of nowhere down the aisle and jump on the top on the wall in front of us. Very weird to see.

A couple of observations from tonight:
- walked in the rotunda entrance and the first thing I heard from someone I was walking by: "this has nothing to do with the Mets." Word for word.
- I then walk up the stairs of the rotunda onto the concourse and the first thing I hear from someone else is, "where are all the Mets banners?"
- i swear to god that both of those stories are true
- I sat in section 133, row A......awesome perspective. I recommend others try it there. Its the weird angled section next to the LF foul pole. Here is a pic:
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e108/noblu/IMG_4739Stitch.jpg
- I'm pretty much used to Citi now. I thought it would take longer but tonight I really felt I was in the Mets home. If only the fans would wake up from their trance.

[The Old Ballpark]

I was just checking something on the Mets A-to-Z Guide (http://newyork.mets.mlb.com/nym/ballpark/guide.jsp) and under "Concessions", there's the following statement:

"Please reference the Citi Field Ballpark Eats map [my bold] for all concessions locations."

However, I cannot find said map. Has anyone else seen such a map? Please post a link if it exists. TIA

I just had the same experience. Looked for it for 10 minutes on the Mets site. Nowhere to be found.

[Confused]

havent been here in a couple of days, but though i would post new things i saw at citi tonight.

painted curb closet to train station yellow.
one less add on the bullpen fence, but im sure you notive watching on tv. 1 down 1 to go.
tv's in the main promenade food area above jrr.
no more ball count. they tell you total, strikes and Ks.
someone (http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/target17.html) pointing out the curb as you are leaving citi.

btw, here are the blocks they inserted between the seats and the concrete in the first row of promenade.

http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/images/photo_042409_002.jpg

of course the had to re-drill:

http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/images/photo_042409_001.jpg

http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/images/photo_042409_005.jpg

and the second row . . . nada

http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/images/photo_042409_003.jpg

http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/images/photo_042409_004.jpg

sorry for the bad quality, took them with my camera phone.

only took 18 photos (http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/index.html).

[Gary Dunaier]

I'm pretty much used to Citi now. I thought it would take longer but tonight I really felt I was in the Mets home.

Howie Rose on the W. F. A. N. radio station was saying the same thing during tonight's live broadcast of game action... he's getting more and more comfortable with the place.

[JohnCropp]

No worries, obama is here:silent:

C'mon, man. At least try to be funny.

[johnql]

I just had the same experience. Looked for it for 10 minutes on the Mets site. Nowhere to be found.

I emailed the Mets and asked them to send me a URL for the map, but they haven't responded to me yet.

[RayNY]

Unfortunately the Xerox ad is still there and so are the ridiculous tarps:hissyfit:



I wonder why the tarp is there. Does anyone know the "official" reason as to why they put it there? Obviously I would assume it's to prevent fans from throwing things onto the players, but then when I look at NYS and other stadiums with open bullpens close to the fans, they don't have tarp over them. Are Mets fans really that unruly or is there another reason?

[johnql]

havent been here in a couple of days, but though i would post new things i saw at citi tonight.

painted curb closet to train station yellow.

Here's a shot of the newly painted curb.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6332.jpg

I think this is a new sign.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6345.jpg

One of the ashtrays in Nicotine Alley (not sure if that's what the Mets call it but that's the term New York Magazine uses) - the only place inside the stadium gates where smoking is permitted is in a gated-in space next to the left-field entrance. This is the counterpart to the area outside Shea's Gate C.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6349.jpg

I attended Gary, Keith & Ron's Party Suite fund-raising event tonight.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6366.jpg

Here's my niece posing with Gary Cohen.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6374.jpg

[Jbutta29]

I just had the same experience. Looked for it for 10 minutes on the Mets site. Nowhere to be found.

Maybe its in the Mets Hall of Fame... :lol

yeah i was curious to see though why the omitted Mamas of Corona?!?!

[Jbutta29]

they should have painted the curb orange...

[Confused]

no one was checking tickets to enter promenade club on friday.

i wonder if it is now open to all?

[johnql]

Giveaway bags for tonight's GKR attendees.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6375.jpg

One of the auction items - a 1969 Mets roster poster with numerous player signatures.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6376.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6377.jpg

Also auctioned off was a pair of tickets in the Green Monster seat section at Fenway for the Sunday 5/24 game.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6379.jpg

Finally, a special edition GKR bottle of merlot was auctioned off.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6380.jpg

[johnql]

The fictitious Mode Magazine (of ABC-TV's Ugly Betty) was taping its season finale at Citi Field tonight.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6387.jpg

The equally fictitious Daniel Meade (editor of Mode Magazine) threw out the ceremonial first pitch numerous times to get just the right take for the camera.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6388.jpg

Johan was dealing tonight, striking out 10 in 6 innings.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6397.jpg

Taking a cue from his teammates, most of whom failed to drive home numerous runners on third with less than two outs, David Wright heard more than a smattering of boos after striking out with Beltran on third.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6398.jpg

K-Rod delivers his shakiest outing of the season but escapes with his fourth save.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6421.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6422.jpg

[NJTankMets]

Giveaway bags for tonight's GKR attendees.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6375.jpg

One of the auction items - a 1969 Mets roster poster with numerous player signatures.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6376.jpg

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6377.jpg

Also auctioned off was a pair of tickets in the Green Monster seat section at Fenway for the Sunday 5/24 game.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6379.jpg

Finally, a special edition GKR bottle of merlot was auctioned off.
http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/IMG_6380.jpg

How do you get into a GKR meeting

[johnql]

How do you get into a GKR meeting

Go to their web site: http://pitchinforagoodcause.org

They schedule numerous gatherings throughout the season to raise money for their charities.

[johnql]

Here's a link to my full photo album from tonight's game:

http://s636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%204-24-09/

[Mygirljess]

Ladies and gentlemen, now playing left field for the Mets....

[Mygirljess]

And the fans go wild...

http://blogs.citizen-times.com/blogs/media/blogs/tourists/SquirrelBaseball.jpg

Could it be Scooter the Yankee Squirrel from old Yankee Stadium, prefers Citi Field to the new Yankee Stadium?

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0fMOavvdwL2kG/610x.jpg

[citifaithful]

Anyone else notice behind the Citi Field logo on the main scoreboard, they're starting to put a black background. I guess it's designed so that you can see the letters clearer during the day...Small but different.

Figured out the best time to go to shake shack is during the middle of the game. What a difference. 6th inning, it was practically empty. I'm a slow learner I guess.

Anyone still learning how to distribute their time at citi? I'm so used to sitting the whole game but those concourses have some amazing views. I've ended up doing half and half certain occasions. It seems like it's a waste not to experience field level views as Shea allowed none of that.

[RichardK]

Ladies and gentlemen, now playing left field for the Mets....

I see he dove... Did he make the catch?

[RichardK]

Anyone else notice behind the Citi Field logo on the main scoreboard, they're starting to put a black background. I guess it's designed so that you can see the letters clearer during the day...Small but different.

Nice eye, thats awesome... I alwayse hated how the logo blended into the daytime sky.

[metfan61]

I know I'm being picky but do you you think they can mount the ad board straight! When they zoom in on HDTV it looks like crap. It make me crazy! :crazy


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[Mr.Prince24]

:mad: Newsday reported this morning about kids from Syosset High (where I'm from) being forced to remove their K sign's from the LED boards. Security told them without a chance and told them not to place them anywhere else. Yet, when they started placing them, they had no problem. What do you guys make of this?

[Ralf]

Another thing from last night, I tried the chicken Tacos from the Taqueria............... awful. They tasted like soap. Never again.

[metsforever7515]

:mad: Newsday reported this morning about kids from Syosset High (where I'm from) being forced to remove their K sign's from the LED boards. Security told them without a chance and told them not to place them anywhere else. Yet, when they started placing them, they had no problem. What do you guys make of this?

I'm sorry, but the security is a joke. Last Saturday during BP I was sitting with my dad in wheel chair seating above the big apple seats (just to eat, didn't want to sit on a bench). We're about midway through our food when about 8 security guards surround us and tell us we have to get up (they weren't particularly polite about it) and that we can't sit there. I go, "But this is BP, I can sit anywhere unless the ticket holders are here." The security guard proceeds to tell me that No, I can not sit anywhere during BP, I can just walk around and not sit. So after a few more came over (totaling at about 12) came over I just got up and went to a picnic table behind it. About 5 minutes later the supervisor comes over and tells me that all of them were wrong and I could sit back in the seats if I want. But go figure, there were 2 guys sitting in those same seats without being talked to!

[Stormwatch]

I think that is because they are 75% cilantro and 25% chicken...

[kimthemetschick]

The breakdowns on the Phils and Mets are scary. For them.

Phils: Brett Myers (5.03), Jamie Moyer (6.35), Joe Blanton (7.31), Cole Hamels (9.69), Chan Ho Park (8.68).
Mets: Johan Santana (0.46), Livan Hernandez (7.31), John Maine (7.47), Oliver Perez (7.80), Mike Pelfrey (8.10).

Without Santana, who faces the Nats tonight, the Mets' rotation ERA is 7.62.



Pathetic. It's getting to be painful to watch... already. You'd think last night was a sure thing, with our only pitcher on the hill, against the last place team? Nah, let's make it another close race. :crossfingers:

And yay, I get to watch Ollie pussy-foot around on Sunday:crazy

[nymdan]

Another thing from last night, I tried the chicken Tacos from the Taqueria............... awful. They tasted like soap. Never again.
Interesting. My friend who has tried both the steak and chicken said the chicken was better. I wasn't crazy about the steak ones though, so I'm not going out of my way to try the chicken.

[kimthemetschick]

For those who haven't tried the (Cascarino's) Pizza: don't bother. 5.75 for half-a-slice? OMG!! Biggest rip-off in the stadium! Had no idea how small the slices were. Needless to say I needed something else after that. Went for the 3.75 pretzel after that.

[Dishy24]

Another thing from last night, I tried the chicken Tacos from the Taqueria............... awful. They tasted like soap. Never again.

Really? That was going to be my lunch choice on tomorrow! I thought the Taco place was great?? Any better choices from the experts out there??

[Oct251986]

Interesting. My friend who has tried both the steak and chicken said the chicken was better. I wasn't crazy about the steak ones though, so I'm not going out of my way to try the chicken.

And I really like the steak tacos. My wife didn't really care for the chicken ones.

Seth

[CoreyNYC]

Interesting. My friend who has tried both the steak and chicken said the chicken was better. I wasn't crazy about the steak ones though, so I'm not going out of my way to try the chicken.

I've had all 3 tacos, they are all great with great salsas for each one.

[Ralf]

Interesting. My friend who has tried both the steak and chicken said the chicken was better. I wasn't crazy about the steak ones though, so I'm not going out of my way to try the chicken.

My brother had the steak taco on OD and threw it out. He actually complained to one of the Aramark staffers. Lol.

I got Box Frites too last night. Good stuff, though a little overpriced. The large size is too much for 1 person. :silent:

So far I've had the pulled pork at Blue Smoke, burger and fries at Shake Shack, chicken taco at Taqueria, and large fries at Box Frites. All were great except the tacos. I'll probably try the lobster salad next time. I heard that was pretty good.

[NunuMet]

Anyone else notice behind the Citi Field logo on the main scoreboard, they're starting to put a black background. I guess it's designed so that you can see the letters clearer during the day...Small but different.

People here have been saying to do that for what? Like a year now ... Its amazing how this team's management has their heads stuck up their a** :crazy

[CoreyNYC]

Other additions/changes I noticed last night besides the Lincoln ad and the scalping signs:

--Lineups posted at least 30 min before game (now Evan Roberts can sleep at night)
--Signs in stairwells reminding people not to smoke
--RF Scoreboard not only has the K counter numerically (as others have already mentioned) but when a Mets pitcher gets a strikeout, it switches to a "KKKKKKK" type counter for about 10 seconds.
--Mets Minor League scores now scroll along with the OOT scores on the ribbon board
--Pretty sure there was a new OF dimension marker in between the ads (near the "Shea" retired number)
--Promenade Home Plate Food Court now has TV's installed at all permanent stands, Some already worked, some didn't.
--Promenade PA system seems to be at the right volume now.


Like I have been saying (and getting vilified/called all sorts of names for), this building is a work in progress. After this homestand, there will be more additons/changes. Same goes for the following homestand and so on...

PATIENCE, people. PATIENCE.


What needs to be fixed...

--Staircases to Promenade portal sections around home plate need to be better lit. They are very dark right now.
--They should put up some sort of barrier to prevent people to jump from those stairs to the roofs of the concessions. Right now, you can hop right over.
--Same goes for the area on field level to the right of the Worlds Fare Market (by the beer stand). You can hop right over the low railing there and then there is about a foot of space and then a ledge. Some drunk idiot will be hopping over before too long. I'm all for Darwinism but an idiot jury will no doubt give the family of the drunk idiot a big pile of cash.



Oh and lots of people at the stadium are stupid sheep.

Entering the stadium at the rotunda last night around 6:15, there were 2-3 long lines on each of the far right and left sides. Meanwhile in the middle, I walked right in on one of several lines with no wait whatsoever.

Same goes for concessions and bathrooms. Last night behind home plate, I didn't like the long line at the Carvel stand. Turned right around to the general concession stand right opposite it and got my ice cream in 30 sec. I noticed similar circumstances all night where 1 hot dog stand or bathroom had a line and 20-50' down, the next didn't.

[Greg B.]

--Pretty sure there was a new OF dimension marker in between the ads (near the "Shea" retired number)


I think Keith Hernandez mentioned this on the broadcast last night. There is a "371" marker on the left centerfield fence, the same number as used to be in roughly the same location at Shea, according to him.

[LI METS FAN]

Other additions/changes I noticed last night besides the Lincoln ad and the scalping signs:

--Lineups posted at least 30 min before game (now Evan Roberts can sleep at night)
--Signs in stairwells reminding people not to smoke
--RF Scoreboard not only has the K counter numerically (as others have already mentioned) but when a Mets pitcher gets a strikeout, it switches to a "KKKKKKK" type counter for about 10 seconds.
--Mets Minor League scores now scroll along with the OOT scores on the ribbon board
--Pretty sure there was a new OF dimension marker in between the ads (near the "Shea" retired number)
--Promenade Home Plate Food Court now has TV's installed, Some worked, some didn't.
--Promenade PA systems seems to be at the right volume now.

Like I have been saying and getting vilified/called all sorts of names for, this building is a work in progress. After this homestand, there will be more additons/changes. Same goes for the following homestand and so on...

PATIENCE, people. PATIENCE.

Oh and lots of people at the stadium are stupid sheep.

Entering the stadium at the rotunda last night around 6:15, there were 2-3 long lines on each of the far right and left sides. Meanwhile in the middle, I walked right in on one of several lines with no wait whatsoever.

Same goes for concessions and bathrooms. Last night behind home plate, I didn't like the long line at the Carvel stand. Turned right around to the general concession stand right opposite it and got my ice cream in 30 sec. I noticed similar circumstances all night where 1 hot dog stand or bathroom had a line and 20-50' down, the next didn't.

I do not know why people instinctively go to the longest line and wait on it, spending no time to investigate 'is there an easier way?"

[Confused]

hey, watching the encore.

was that dave howard (vp) watching the game behind home?

[NunuMet]

I do not know why people instinctively go to the longest line and wait on it, spending no time to investigate 'is there an easier way?"

Because lots of the people in the world are dolts.

[nybatzo]

no one was checking tickets to enter promenade club on friday.

i wonder if it is now open to all?

I noticed the same thing with Promenade Club. Also, it is pretty easy to just sit anywhere you want. There are a lot of "distracted" ushers on the field level, which works out pretty well. You just can't leave the section or you might not have the same luck coming back in.

[GordonGecko]

I noticed the same thing with Promenade Club. Also, it is pretty easy to just sit anywhere you want. There are a lot of "distracted" ushers on the field level, which works out pretty well. You just can't leave the section or you might not have the same luck coming back in.

That's when you just need to hold up food like you were just at the concession stand and look like you belong as you make a bee-line down the stairs :D

[MezzSec2RowH]

My sense is that, outside of the "Platinum" level games, 4-6,000 seats are over-priced, and I will go out on a limb here and predict that unless there is some major change to the pricing on those seats, no game - apart from the Yankees series, or a play-off decisive game in September - will have an official attendance of more than 38,000.

Last night ... Attendance: 40,522.

I guess I was wrong ...

[atdy17]

Last night ... Attendance: 40,522.

I guess I was wrong ...

You were right. But yesterday games had three advantage that helped the attendance. They were Johan was pitching, great weather and it's was a friday night game.

[Confused]

I noticed the same thing with Promenade Club. Also, it is pretty easy to just sit anywhere you want. There are a lot of "distracted" ushers on the field level, which works out pretty well. You just can't leave the section or you might not have the same luck coming back in.

re: ushers.

i was doing some recon on how the "shoes (http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/target1.html)" affected the 1st row views way b4 the game, an usher stopped and asked me what i was doing. actually blocked me from continuing down the stairs. i told i was just checking out the views.

so is it okay to walk around during batting practice or isnt it?

btw, the fix the mets did seem to have fixed the leds blockage to home plate. at 5' 10" i dint have to lean forward to view the pitcher or home plate. you do if you want to see deep into the rf corner.

i checked out several seat in the first row.

fixing this does cause issues for those in the 2nd row (my row), you basically have to watch the game between ppls heads, or hope there are kids in front of you.

this is why i pay an extra $15?

[metsforever7515]

re: ushers.

i was doing some recon on how the "shoes (http://www.felipe.net/pictures/game_7_2009/target1.html)" affected the 1st row views way b4 the game, an usher stopped and asked me what i was doing. actually blocked me from continuing down the stairs. i told i was just checking out the views.

so is it okay to walk around during batting practice or isnt it?

btw, the fix the mets did seem to have fixed the leds blockage to home plate. at 5' 10" i dint have to lean forward to view the pitcher or home plate. you do if you want to see deep into the rf corner.

i checked out several seat in the first row.

fixing this does cause issues for those in the 2nd row (my row), you basically have to watch the game between ppls heads, or hope there are kids in front of you.

this is why i pay an extra $15?

I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere for BP. The ushers and security are clueless sometimes.

[GordonGecko]

I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere for BP. The ushers and security are clueless sometimes.

At YS they've been nazis about ticket checking. You can't even go into the bleachers if you don't have a ticket, not even for BP

[MSchvatz44]

i dont have a picture to back this up, but did anyone else notice last night at the game that there was a background to part of the citi field sign above the CF scoreboard? it only went up to the c and maybe i, but it was definitely there. that was something a lot of talked about when we first saw the sign in daylight. it will be interesting to see if they continue this, and how it will look.

sorry if it was already discussed, but im too lazy to look back and im in nfl draft mode today anyway.

[johnql]

:mad: Newsday reported this morning about kids from Syosset High (where I'm from) being forced to remove their K sign's from the LED boards. Security told them without a chance and told them not to place them anywhere else. Yet, when they started placing them, they had no problem. What do you guys make of this?

This shouldn't have been a surprise to anybody. It's standard procedure not to allow banners or signs to cover up ads. The K signs that were in back of home towards third, not covering anything but concrete facade, were allowed to stay for the entire game.

[Confused]

This shouldn't have been a surprise to anybody. It's standard procedure not to allow banners or signs to cover up ads. The K signs that were in back of home towards third, not covering anything but concrete facade, were allowed to stay for the entire game.

sny kept showaing talking about a set being put up by kids in the promenade.

they had to make some on the spot. the one they did for putz looked like it was made of tissue.

[metsforever7515]

At YS they've been nazis about ticket checking. You can't even go into the bleachers if you don't have a ticket, not even for BP

I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere at CF. You've always been allowed everywhere at Shea and I was allowed everywhere for BP on Saturday and Sunday.

[Oct251986]

I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere at CF. You've always been allowed everywhere at Shea and I was allowed everywhere for BP on Saturday and Sunday.

Not always but since I think since the lockout in 1994 that is the case.

[metsforever7515]

Not always but since I think since the lockout in 1994 that is the case.

For a while, lol.

[Dishy24]

Not always but since I think since the lockout in 1994 that is the case.

LOL-- I don't think Metsforever was alive durung the lockout in 1994!!

[RayNY]

For those who haven't tried the (Cascarino's) Pizza: don't bother. 5.75 for half-a-slice? OMG!! Biggest rip-off in the stadium! Had no idea how small the slices were. Needless to say I needed something else after that. Went for the 3.75 pretzel after that.

Yeah I wrote about that too in the "Food at Citi Field" thread. First, it's not even New York style pizza... secondly, it's just a small square and it's like $6 it's a complete ripoff. Just curious how you didn't know the slices were so small. Don't they have out on display?

[metsforever7515]

LOL-- I don't think Metsforever was alive durung the lockout in 1994!!

Nope, I wasn't. :waving

[metsforever7515]

Looks like they relocated the Lincoln ad to the LF wall.

[CFmets09]

No offense but who gets pizza at a baseball game?

[metsforever7515]

No offense but who gets pizza at a baseball game?

I was thinking the same thing. :laugh:laugh:laugh:laugh

I get it though, trying all of the options.

[atdy17]

Nope, I wasn't. :waving

How young are you. I was alive during the 1994 lockout even though I was less then 1 year old.

[metsforever7515]

How young are you. I was alive during the 1994 lockout even though I was less then 1 year old.

You have a PM.

[RayNY]

No offense but who gets pizza at a baseball game?

Yeah dude... it is like totally uncool.

[CFmets09]

Yeah dude... it is like totally uncool.

not sure if sarcastic.....

[NYBase]

I've ordered pizza when other lines are super long... I quickly regret it when I get to taste the slice.

[nymdan]

Just got back from the game. A few comments:

The Bad:
I bought 3 tickets for today in LF Landing, 337, row 12. I get to my section, look for my seats, and it seems there is no row 12 in section 337. I look around, and I notice that the wheelchair area behind the section is marked as row 12.

I found a security guard, and told him that I didn't buy wheelchair seating but it seems I was assigned a wheelchair seat. He says that I had to have requested it, and it should say it on the ticket. He looks at the ticket, and it has no indication of it being a wheelchair area. I told him I bought the ticket on the phone and the representative told me nothing about it being a wheelchair area. He says well, these are your seats, and puts a folding chair next to the two attached seats.

I said this is ridiculous, I didn't ask for wheelchair seats, and asked if he could put me someplace else. He said no. I asked him if I could talk to a supervisor, and he said something along the lines of "No, you're lucky you're getting a folding chair, some people have seats that are apart and don't get the chair."

Anyway, it wasn't the worst thing in the world to sit there... but there were a few other people that apparently were in the same occasion, including a group of people that apparently had the ticket for a seat that a man sitting next with an old lady in a wheelchair was using, and it turned into a big argument between the group, the man sitting there, and the security guard, with the man getting angry (rightfully so) that he was with somebody in a wheelchair and was being asked to move by people who did not belong in a wheelchair section.

Either way, if I knew I was going to be there, I would have bought the promenade box seats above for less money. I stopped at customer service after the game, but they weren't there. I'll stop by before the game tomorrow and see if they can do anything for me.

The Good:
The center field area seems to be better organized now. There are more ropes for the Shake Shack line to zig zag rather than blocking the walkway, and the line itself was moving quicker, as they had one person working the cash register and another person getting the order, so they were able to take the next order before the previous person even had their food. Surprisingly, around 11:45-12:00, there was almost no line at Blue Smoke, Box Frites, or El Verano Taqueria.

They also now have TVs at all of the food places back there, and they have also installed TVs at all of the food places in the promenade above the rotunda.

[CoreyNYC]

More Mets stuff at Citi Field...

Blown up Topps Baseball Cards on the Empire (Suite) Level

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs031.snc1/3217_75892128873_520638873_1582625_3028444_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs031.snc1/3217_75892143873_520638873_1582628_2590232_n.jpg

:waving

[Dishy24]

More Mets stuff at Citi Field...

Blown up Topps Baseball Cards on the Empire (Suite) Level

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs031.snc1/3217_75892128873_520638873_1582625_3028444_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs031.snc1/3217_75892143873_520638873_1582628_2590232_n.jpg

:waving

Very cool-- they should put more on those on other levels so everyone could enjoy them!

[nyce475]

Is there still the opportunity to get in on the luxury suite, is it still happening....I would love to go...I had the fortune to be in empire box 226 today...almost directly behind home plate and I would love to do it again!

[njmeadowlanders]

All I know is that even though it was in the 80's today, sitting in the last couple rows of the upper deck (yes, I won't call it "Promenade") the wind was WHIPPING and it was pretty cold. Thank god the Jets don't play there, in November or December it'd be like Siberia up there...

Next time I know to dress accordingly, even if it's July.

[CoreyNYC]

Very cool-- they should put more on those on other levels so everyone could enjoy them!

I would bet they are on the way (people need to trust me on this being a "work in progress" stadium).

They seem to have a promo deal with Topps since they used to have the lineups posted by Gate E and they have used Topps on the scoreboard pictures for a few years now

[Jbutta29]

while I dont doubt they will be adjusting and adding things to the stadium. I wonder why we have to trust YOU about that. You often seem to speak as if you work for the Mets.

[CoreyNYC]

while I dont doubt they will be adjusting and adding things to the stadium. I wonder why we have to trust YOU about that. You often seem to speak as if you work for the Mets.

People like to hate on me but I am using common sense, something somewhat lacking around here. I have been saying it is a work in progress, people jumped all over me and insisted everything is done (i.e. not that much Mets stuff)

In the past few days, during a measly 3 game road trip, they added TVs in the Promenade Food Court and in Taste of the City. They have also tweaked/added a few other things here & there.

Obviously its a work in progress. Next week there is a week long road trip and when the Mets return, I am sure we'll notice some more additions to the park.

I'd like to see a Mets museum but not having TVs on the food stands I go to is a higher priority on my list. I'd check out the displays once or twice (if the Yankees have a fairly small museum, don't expect to much from the Mets lesser history) but the TVs are something I will use every time at the ballpark.

[peterrod16]

All I know is that even though it was in the 80's today, sitting in the last couple rows of the upper deck (yes, I won't call it "Promenade") the wind was WHIPPING and it was pretty cold. Thank god the Jets don't play there, in November or December it'd be like Siberia up there...

Next time I know to dress accordingly, even if it's July.

Well i enjoyed the breeze in the LF Landing section 338.
I noticed an elderly couple have jackets so they knew it gets nippy in the shade.
Dan sorry i didnt see you.
I met saltzy and gave him a fresh beer.
High res photos coming around 10PM with a link but since this is BBF here are 5 pics
pics 1 of airplane
Pic 2 from underneath saltzy section 524 notice both scoreboards showing the replay
pic 3 game action
fourth pic from LF Landing 338 row 10 during take me out to the ballgame
Lastly the rotunda

[peterrod16]

notes on citi field changes
1. the rotunda opens 2 1/2 hours before the game for batting practice
I heard that cans coolers and bottles are not allowed can someone confirm this?
2. a metal railing has been placed to separate the standing customers from the wheelchair section in the promenade
3. more of a tip my buddy wanted a ticket for wednesday game
I saw prom infield online yesterday but at the box office they told me prom infield online is sold out
the lady working at the ticket booth wanted me to say promenade instead of prom whatever
4. use of both scoreboards for replays.
lastly i got to the shake shack at 1140 and was waiting for 15 to 20 mins
at 12PM the line was really long.
CF is growing on me very quickly

[JLG]

Mo Zone Tickets - These tickets are sold to groups only!
Tuesday April 28 – Met’s vs Florida Marlins
I bought two tickets to the Mo Zone and will only be able to use one. I want someone from BBF to get a chance to see the game from RIGHT FIELD. I paid approximately $85 per ticket which includes Game Tickets, Catering Package S&H. I might sell both if someone really needs two.
If interested please PM.

*Catering Package Includes:
Fresh Popped Popcorn
Cracker Jack
Green Salad
Garganelli Salad
Nathan's "The Original" Beef Frankfurters
Crispy Chicken Tenders
Non Alcoholic Beverage Service - Assorted soda, fruit juices, and bottled water

[JLG]

Mo Zone Tickets - These tickets are sold to groups only!
Tuesday April 28 – Met’s vs Florida Marlins
I bought two tickets to the Mo Zone and will only be able to use one. I want someone from BBF to get a chance to see the game from RIGHT FIELD. I paid approximately $85 per ticket which includes Game Tickets, Catering Package S&H. I might sell both if someone really needs two.
If interested please PM.

*Catering Package Includes:
Fresh Popped Popcorn
Cracker Jack
Green Salad
Garganelli Salad
Nathan's "The Original" Beef Frankfurters
Crispy Chicken Tenders
Non Alcoholic Beverage Service - Assorted soda, fruit juices, and bottled water

[Dishy24]

I have a few questions about locations of a few things. Where the heck is the closest Dunkin Donuts (closest to Prom Club behind home). Also, where can I get a corn dog? We plan on eating Mexican tomorrow & my little guy wants a corn dog-- I know they sell them, but where?

*Remember* meetup tomorrow at my section 416 @ 12:45 ish?? We can then move to the Prom Club so Mandrake could buy everyone a round! lol

[NYM Baseball]

I have two extra for tomorrow's afternoon game vs the nats. Caesars Club 332 row 4. asking $100 for the pair. Face value is $120+. If anybody is interested let me know. I can transfer the tickets through mets instant ticket transfer. Thanks

[CoreyNYC]

I have a few questions about locations of a few things. Where the heck is the closest Dunkin Donuts (closest to Prom Club behind home). Also, where can I get a corn dog? We plan on eating Mexican tomorrow & my little guy wants a corn dog-- I know they sell them, but where?

The regular concessions pretty much all sell coffee in Dunkin Donuts cups but the coffee comes out of Chase & Sanborne machines. Not sure whats going on there.

There is a full blown (hot/iced/coolata) DD stand on the field level just to the left of the rotunda (if you are coming up the escalator) or to the right of it (if you are already on the field level).

Not quite sure about Corn Dogs but my guess would be at hot dog stands that have an expanded selection (fries, onion rings, burgers) beyond just plain ol Nathans hot dogs

[JP1968]

Dishy -

I believe one of the hot dog stands in the Promenade Food Court sells the corn dogs. I saw it today and if I remember correctly, when you are facing the Mets Store in the Prom food court, it was the hot dog stand to the right of the store. Good luck!

[johnql]

Behind the Promenade Club, there's a concession stand called Brooklyn Burgers & Fries. They sell corn dogs there.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%20Food%20Signs/Burgers_Fries2.jpg

[nymdan]

Speaking of the promenade club, there was nobody at the door around 12:45, so I walked in.

I don't understand why people stay in there during the game since there's no view of the infield. The seats with access to that club are so overpriced.

[johnql]

I heard that cans coolers and bottles are not allowed can someone confirm this?

Plastic bottles (soda or water) are ok, just no glass.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%20Opening%20Day%202009/IMG_5994.jpg

[CarterShea]

I sat in Sec 102, Row 7, Seat 12 & 13 (front row above Mo Zone). Great seats to watch the game. Only down side was seat 13 is a bit cramped for a taller guy like me. Luckily my wife is short so we were able to switch and was comfortable for both of us. We were told they were aisle seats, and technically they are the last seats in the row, but they are not aisle seats. Also, there are no cup holders for these seats.

The view is tremendous. You can still see the out of town scoreboard and the center field video board. The sound is horrendous. The PA announcements are very muffled and found myself looking at the closed caption a lot for certain announcements.

The section is in a terrific location, as it is between Taste of the City and the Rotunda.

The great thing about the seats, especially on a day like today, you're not sitting in the hot sun, as it is under the Pepsi Porch overhang.

I'll provide a link to my pics tomorrow, but you can see a few on my twitter page (link below).

[IDRAFT1]

Today when I tried to visit someone in Caesers before the game I was denied access to the level (I was not trying to get into the club, just the concourse) as I was told it was "special" and I "only" had Promenade seats (They were Prom Club Gold).

I'm getting fed up as with my Prom Gold tickets I pay the same as them. I have called the Mets about this and found out my ticket rep left the Mets. A guy named John, "helped me" (intentional quotes) as he told me I shouldn't complain, at least I had a good view, that 330 had a "fair" view. I asked him if he tells that to people looking to buy tickets there.

He didn't answer.

My question is does anyone have a decent ticket rep they can recommend? If so I would appreciate a PM.

I'm paying these guys over $14,000 this year with my overall ticket purchases I don't think it's asking too much to be able to walk the "Elite Level" concourse.

Thanks.

[peterrod16]

Plastic bottles (soda or water) are ok, just no glass.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%20Opening%20Day%202009/IMG_5994.jpg

thanks for the pic johnql
no noise makers does that mean no cowbell?

[Dishy24]

Thanks guys--
I can't wait until I could walk & check out this place on my own... so far I have only seen what my "9 yr. old driver" wants me to see... lol

[peterrod16]

I sat in Sec 102, Row 7, Seat 12 & 13 (front row above Mo Zone). Great seats to watch the game. Only down side was seat 13 is a bit cramped for a taller guy like me. Luckily my wife is short so we were able to switch and was comfortable for both of us. We were told they were aisle seats, and technically they are the last seats in the row, but they are not aisle seats. Also, there are no cup holders for these seats.

The view is tremendous. You can still see the out of town scoreboard and the center field video board. The sound is horrendous. The PA announcements are very muffled and found myself looking at the closed caption a lot for certain announcements.

The section is in a terrific location, as it is between Taste of the City and the Rotunda.

The great thing about the seats, especially on a day like today, you're not sitting in the hot sun, as it is under the Pepsi Porch overhang.

I'll provide a link to my pics tomorrow, but you can see a few on my twitter page (link below).

nice pic carter.
I think the speakers in your area are not working properly cause the sound was great in the LF Landing

[johnql]

thanks for the pic johnql
no noise makers does that mean no cowbell?

I think the Cow-Bell Man has a lifetime exemption from the rule.

[CoreyNYC]

Today when I tried to visit someone in Caesers before the game I was denied access to the level (I was not trying to get into the club, just the concourse) as I was told it was "special" and I "only" had Promenade seats (They were Prom Club Gold).

I'm getting fed up as with my Prom Gold tickets I pay the same as them. I have called the Mets about this and found out my ticket rep left the Mets. A guy named John, "helped me" (intentional quotes) as he told me I shouldn't complain, at least I had a good view, that 330 had a "fair" view. I asked him if he tells that to people looking to buy tickets there.

He didn't answer.

My question is does anyone have a decent ticket rep they can recommend? If so I would appreciate a PM.

I'm paying these guys over $14,000 this year with my overall ticket purchases I don't think it's asking too much to be able to walk the "Elite Level" concourse.

Thanks.

I don't understand why you are angry. You should have known what you had access to when you bought the tickets. Keep in mind people paying more than you in Field & Metro Boxes have no Caesars access either.

Now if you have a gripe about the crappy Promenade "Club" (which is just a glorified concession area), thats a whole other story.

[peterrod16]

IDRAFT1 i sent a PM to you

[IDRAFT1]

I don't understand why you are angry. You should have known what you had access to when you bought the tickets. Keep in mind people paying more than you in Field & Metro Boxes have no Caesars access either.

Now if you have a gripe about the crappy Promenade "Club" (which is just a glorified concession area), thats a whole other story.

I should have asked if I could walk the Caesers concourse (not enter the club), in August 2008 when they sold me my tickets?

That Field and Metro have no access to Caesers doesn't make it better, only dumber. Then they wonder why no one are buying those tickets?

Fencing us off so we can't associate with each other is exactly the opposite of what they promote.

Look, if they want to keep riffraff like me off the Empire Level, fine, I get that. But Caesers? It's bizarre and all it does is create hassles for friends looking to check in with each other before the game.

[majorleads]

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu87/johnql/CF%20Food%20Signs/Burgers_Fries2.jpg

How the hell do they get off charging $4.75 for a box of Cracker Jacks?!?!? :crazy Please tell me they are at least the MEGA JUMBO size?? $5.75 for ONE Nathan's Frank is outrageous too!

I can understand it (somewhat) if we had signed Manny...:hissyfit:

[peterrod16]

How the hell do they get off charging $4.75 for a box of Cracker Jacks?!?!? :crazy Please tell me they are at least the MEGA JUMBO size?? $5.75 for ONE Nathan's Frank is outrageous too!

I can understand it (somewhat) if we had signed Manny...:hissyfit:

welcome to NYC lol
remember you can bring your own food to citi field

[Confused]

Speaking of the promenade club, there was nobody at the door around 12:45, so I walked in.

I don't understand why people stay in there during the game since there's no view of the infield. The seats with access to that club are so overpriced.

i got a feeling they gave up on checking to see if you belong. there wasnt anyone there yesterday and there were more ppl in there. it was a great place to pick up something quickly, with very little lines.

if they have given up, then there is no point to it.

and you can see the infield including home plate (if you tippy toe) in certain spots.

[Confused]

I should have asked if I could walk the Caesers concourse (not enter the club), in August 2008 when they sold me my tickets?

That Field and Metro have no access to Caesers doesn't make it better, only dumber. Then they wonder why no one are buying those tickets?

Fencing us off so we can't associate with each other is exactly the opposite of what they promote.

Look, if they want to keep riffraff like me off the Empire Level, fine, I get that. But Caesars? It's bizarre and all it does is create hassles for friends looking to check in with each other before the game.

when i had Caesars bronze, i was told more than once that only Caesars tickers holders would be able to even get to the Caesars concourse.

[Confused]

Now if you have a gripe about the crappy Promenade "Club" (which is just a glorified concession area), thats a whole other story.


now it seems that its open to all.

and it might be "glorified" but it was/is a place to get something quickly and come in from the cold.

[RayNY]

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[CFmets09]

I don't get why people are hating on corey so much, wait a little to make judgements on the place. They're obviously not done putting stuff up so we've waited years for this awesome place so I think we can wait a few more weeks, months until it is completely finished.

[Jbutta29]

I think what really turned people against him was the issue with the Mets Hall of Fame which to most seemed like the wilpons were an afterthought, but for alot of people is one of the key things the wilpons should have had ready and wanted to have ready for opening day instead of the JRR. Corey didnt seem to fathom WHY we were so angry while basically defending the wilpons decisions when it comes to the Mets history as an afterthought to the wilpons. It also seems like when anyone has ANY problem, he tries to tell them they shouldnt. I personally think it is one of the things that makes citifield NOT very unique is that they didnt capitalize on alot of things a NY ballpark could have.

[RayNY]

I don't get why people are hating on corey so much, wait a little to make judgements on the place. They're obviously not done putting stuff up so we've waited years for this awesome place so I think we can wait a few more weeks, months until it is completely finished.

Btw my post was deleted on my own accord before you posted yours.

There are so many holes in his logic/argument but why bother going through this again. And the icing on the cake is that now that the Wilpons are finally giving in and doing something he is making it look like he was "right all along." Ugh... so irritating but I already committed to not get into this battle again it's just not worth it.

[Jbutta29]

I will never forgive them for just chucking the old apple into that corner...

[Gary Dunaier]

I'm pretty sure you can go anywhere at CF. You've always been allowed everywhere at Shea and I was allowed everywhere for BP on Saturday and Sunday.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

For as long as I can remember they would not let you into the Field Boxes at Shea Stadium without a ticket. During pre-game batting practice you could go in, but once it was over they expected you to leave if you didn't have a Field Box ticket.

This photo was taken at around 4.00pm during the final game, and you can see that even on the very last day they were checking tickets.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3091/2917234271_d9ddce282b_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 28, 2008. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2917234271/in/set-72157607682932694).)

[Gary Dunaier]

Now if you have a gripe about the crappy Promenade "Club" (which is just a glorified concession area), thats a whole other story.


now it seems that its open to all.

Crappy and glorified it may be, but by rights it should be open to all. It should have been open to all from Day One.

Remember, on the SNY Citi Field preview special - which was broadcast on a network owned by the Mets, and which presumably the Mets had editorial control over - Kevin Burkhardt said the Promenade Club would be open - and these were his exact words - "for anybody who has a ticket on the Promenade level." Jeff Wilpon, who was standing next to Kevin at the time he said that, did not contradict or correct him or otherwise indicate in any manner, way, shape or form that Kevin's statement that the Promenade Club would be open to all was incorrect.

[Gary Dunaier]

This shouldn't have been a surprise to anybody. It's standard procedure not to allow banners or signs to cover up ads.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2228/2450954956_6cd4a55ebb_b.jpg
(Photo taken September 15, 2007. © Gary Dunaier. Link to upload on Flickr.com: here (http://www.flickr.com/photos/14504460@N02/2450954956/in/set-72157604782947494).)

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[peterrod16]

Crappy and glorified it may be, but by rights it should be open to all. It should have been open to all from Day One.

Remember, on the SNY Citi Field preview special - which was broadcast on a network owned by the Mets, and which presumably the Mets had editorial control over - Kevin Burkhardt said the Promenade Club would be open - and these were his exact words - "for anybody who has a ticket on the Promenade level." Jeff Wilpon, who was standing next to Kevin at the time he said that, did not contradict or correct him or otherwise indicate in any manner, way, shape or form that Kevin's statement that the Promenade Club would be open to all was incorrect.

if promenade club is open to everyone there should be a price cut on those seats.
I say Prom club $45 and Prom Club gold $50 for Full STH next year.

[SteveJRogers]

Pics from yesterday

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Ugh! How long has the U-Haul sign been damaged like this?

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[SteveJRogers]

No Coke, PEPSI!

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Sign her to a contract!

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[SteveJRogers]

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The next three are from the window behind the Excelsior level "all access" bar located in between the Accela Club and the Excelsior club.

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[SteveJRogers]

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[Oct251986]

I will never forgive them for just chucking the old apple into that corner...

And where would you suppose that they put it? Any where else would have cause a major traffic jam and we would complain about that.

I am just glad that they figured out a way to bring the old one over and give the opportunity for people to have their picture taken with it.

Seth

[mandrake]

I don't understand why you are angry. You should have known what you had access to when you bought the tickets. Keep in mind people paying more than you in Field & Metro Boxes have no Caesars access either.

Now if you have a gripe about the crappy Promenade "Club" (which is just a glorified concession area), thats a whole other story.

As far as being angry, not everyone has your super intelligence and they do not know the answer to every question under the sun (i.e the correct way to eat barbecue when regular folks ask for more sauce, remember that sermon?)

I think ALL fans have a right to gripe. When I pay $75 to sit in the Caesars's level and get club access, and then fans pay $225.00 to sit in field box gold and the only club they get is the Acela, which means a minimum $48 extra bucks for dinner? I have tickets in field box gold later this year and I can't believe that I get no access?????
Common sense would seem to dictate that if the seats cost 3.5 times more, they come with perks.
Outside of websites like BF, there are a lot of NY sports fans who are really ticked off over the Mets, Yanks, Jets and Giants. Both the MLB and NFL honchos have voiced some concerns about ticket prices.

[kingcohn]

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Where'd they put this on display?

[Confused]

Crappy and glorified it may be, but by rights it should be open to all. It should have been open to all from Day One.

Remember, on the SNY Citi Field preview special - which was broadcast on a network owned by the Mets, and which presumably the Mets had editorial control over - Kevin Burkhardt said the Promenade Club would be open - and these were his exact words - "for anybody who has a ticket on the Promenade level." Jeff Wilpon, who was standing next to Kevin at the time he said that, did not contradict or correct him or otherwise indicate in any manner, way, shape or form that Kevin's statement that the Promenade Club would be open to all was incorrect.


he misspoke gary, he was the fist and last person on the mets to say that about the club.



if promenade club is open to everyone there should be a price cut on those seats.
I say Prom club $45 and Prom Club gold $50 for Full STH next year.

they should, but i doubt it.

[atdy17]

Where'd they put this on display?

looks like JRR

[metsforever7515]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

For as long as I can remember they would not let you into the Field Boxes at Shea Stadium without a ticket. During pre-game batting practice you could go in, but once it was over they expected you to leave if you didn't have a Field Box ticket.

This photo was taken at around 4.00pm during the final game, and you can see that even on the very last day they were checking tickets.

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Oops, I meant for BP. My bad. :waving

[metsforever7515]

Where'd they put this on display?

My guess is the Bullpen Gate.

[nymdan]

Yeah, I believe it's the bullpen gate. I actually passed it yesterday, but I didn't put 2 and 2 together because I didn't really take the time to see what it said.

[Saltzy23]

Its days like today that I thank God I bought season tickets, and realize that anyone here that bought them worried needs to reanalyze why you bought your tickets to begin with. I originally said back in 2006 that I just wanted to guarantee myself a ticket to any game I wanted to go to forever. Then I got all distracted with getting the best seats possible, and the stadium itself, and resale values, and whatever else we've been discussing for the last 2 years here.

Today is PRECISELY the day that reminds me why I did what I did. The cheapest ticket out there is $25-$30. The thought of having to pay 2x face or more just for the ability to roll out of bed and go to a game on a beautiful Sunday(not to mention deal with hooking up with someone on CL or walk around looking for an extra or 2), absolutely gives me hives. Previously if I were 'me' right now 3 years ago I would know I could just hop on the train, and I'd have my one ticket for $5 within 10 minutes once I got off. Cheap weekend tickets are now FINALLY a hard ticket.(The expensive ones will be once the economy turns around and/or the them is in the thick of it). Weekday games are going for face or right around it. Playoff tickets will be borderline impossible.

Bottom line, say what you will about the prices on the high end. As far as capacity, they absolutely nailed it...

[nymdan]

Its days like today that I thank God I bought season tickets, and realize that anyone here that bought them worried needs to reanalyze why you bought your tickets to begin with. I originally said back in 2006 that I just wanted to guarantee myself a ticket to any game I wanted to go to forever. Then I got all distracted with getting the best seats possible, and the stadium itself and whatever.

Today is PRECISELY the day that reminds me why I did what I did. The cheapest ticket out there is $25-$30. The thought of having to pay 2x face or more just for the ability to roll out of bed and go to a game on a beautiful Sunday(not to mention deal with hooking up with someone on CL or walk around looking for an extra or 2), absolutely gives me hives. Previously if I were 'me' right now 3 years ago I would know I could just hop on the train, and I'd have my one ticket for $5 within 10 minutes once I got off. Cheap weekend tickets are now FINALLY a hard ticket.(The expensive ones will be once the economy turns around and/or the them is in the thick of it). Weekday games are going for face or right around it. Playoff tickets will be borderline impossible.

Bottom line, say what you will about the prices on the high end. As far as capacity, they absolutely nailed it...
And it's games like tomorrow that I thank god I didn't buy season tickets.

I've been trying to get rid of LF Reserved tickets for tomorrow for face ($30 each) for a few weeks now, with no success. I see prom res IF tickets are still available through the Mets, and you can even get prom res IF tickets for tomorrow on Stubhub for as low as $5.50 each.

[Saltzy23]

If they are gonna get their panties into bunches over people writing on the walls I'd appreciate it if they could clean off all the graffiti in the stalls in the Promenade...

Its already starting to mount up, and it looks awful...

(Or is it only the appearance of the high end clubs that they care about?)

[Saltzy23]

And it's games like tomorrow that I thank god I didn't buy season tickets.

I've been trying to get rid of LF Reserved tickets for tomorrow for face ($30 each) for a few weeks now, with no success. I see prom res IF tickets are still available through the Mets, and you can even get prom res IF tickets for tomorrow on Stubhub for as low as $5.50 each.
Allow me to rephrase...

Its days like today that I thank God I bought CHEAP season tickets. I have had NO issues finding a friend for my other seat, or selling the games I cant make for face or over...

I always said that the economy would help me in that I have the best value seats in the whole park, and value is pretty en vogue right now...

Then you throw in how I dont have to deal with 2 minutes of crap today finding a ticket(or any game again) and trust me....having 2 ST's in the Promenade is ABSOLUTLEY the way to go...

[SteveJRogers]

My guess is the Bullpen Gate.

It is, right when you get in and just in front of the steps to get up to the Apple.

[nymdan]

Allow me to rephrase...

Its days like today that I thank God I bought CHEAP season tickets. I have had NO issues finding a friend for my other seat, or selling the games I cant make for face or over...

I always said that the economy would help me in that I have the best value seats in the whole park, and value is pretty en vogue right now...

Then you throw in how I dont have to deal with 2 minutes of crap today finding a ticket(or any game again) and trust me....having 2 ST's in the Promenade is ABSOLUTLEY the way to go...
I'm sure having row 1 also helps you out...

But you go to pretty much every game, right? That's why it makes so much sense for you.

I go to about 35 games a year... maybe two or three games per homestand. I went yesterday, and I'm going today and Tuesday. If I had season tickets and went to almost all of the weekend games but tried to get rid of the weekday games, I'd lose money. For me, with the resale market the way it is, it makes more sense for me to buy a fifteen game plan (or two, as I have this year) and buy some individual tickets on top of that.

[Oct251986]

You know what, that whole area would be a great place to put the HOF. Get rid of those picnic tables and it might just work.

[Saltzy23]

I'm sure having row 1 also helps you out...

But you go to pretty much every game, right? That's why it makes so much sense for you.

I go to about 35 games a year... maybe two or three games per homestand. I went yesterday, and I'm going today and Tuesday. If I had season tickets and went to almost all of the weekend games but tried to get rid of the weekday games, I'd lose money. For me, with the resale market the way it is, it makes more sense for me to buy a fifteen game plan (or two, as I have this year) and buy some individual tickets on top of that.
I see what you are saying, and yes of course the fact I go to every game and have Row 1 help me. BTW, after going to a whole bunch I'm waging another war against Corey(in jest)...I sat in the seats I would have got if I didnt move on Friday and I like my seats a LOT more, and saved $1000. I DO have the best cheap seats in the park, at least IMO.

Either way, you're focusing on the bad. Even if you have crummy Prom seats you should be able to get close to face for any game. Even the midweek crap games. Im ONLY talking about Promenade. I'll agree that the other price points are a bad bet. So, if thats worst case scenerio, and the flip side is just waking up today and going to the park(not to mention playoffs) then I dont see how you can argue that Prom ST's are the best option all the way around...at least presently.

[EM0909153]

Allow me to rephrase...

Its days like today that I thank God I bought CHEAP season tickets. I have had NO issues finding a friend for my other seat, or selling the games I cant make for face or over...

I always said that the economy would help me in that I have the best value seats in the whole park, and value is pretty en vogue right now...

Then you throw in how I dont have to deal with 2 minutes of crap today finding a ticket(or any game again) and trust me....having 2 ST's in the Promenade is ABSOLUTLEY the way to go...

I'm very happy I got my season tickets too, I've been watching the stubhub sales count today and already like 250 tickets or so have been sold this morning alone, people are realizing that they cannot get tickets from the stadium anymore unless they want to play in $100 each. I've been very aggressive trying to move mine, can't go to a ton of games in April and May, All in all I used or sold every ticket I had for every April game, have 80% of the May games sold or being used. On the first homestand minus the 2 extra opening day tickets I sold for way over face, I broke dead even and this home stand taking away the game I used since I treated a friend to come yesterday I again broke dead even. Very happy with how things are going with selling tickets on the secondary market.

[SteveJRogers]

Speaking of that area, I was trying to see how you get from there to the "Mo Zone" Couldn't see a direct way to it, unless I just wasn't looking hard enough?

[KoosFan]

You know what, that whole area would be a great place to put the HOF. Get rid of those picnic tables and it might just work.

That area is not fully protected from the elements.
Not having it would seriously limit what they could display.

I still believe this is where it's going.
Inside that corner building space (not the outdoor courtyard)
at the bottom of the stairs behind the Fan Fest Area on 126th Street.
It would have access from inside the park area as well as walk up from
the outside street level so that they could keep it open on non-game days.

[SteveJRogers]

And where would you suppose that they put it? Any where else would have cause a major traffic jam and we would complain about that.

I am just glad that they figured out a way to bring the old one over and give the opportunity for people to have their picture taken with it.

Seth

Good point. Other than putting it where it was or in front of the Rotunda outside (similar to the RYS bat smoke stack) in the midst of the planters and such, or on top of the Rotunda where they have a giant baseball with an NY in bricks logo, there really isn't much room for it that wouldn't cause much distraction or foot traffic jams.

[EM0909153]

Over 500 tickets sold on stubhub for today's game since last night like 9PM

[jimbojoker38]

What does everyone think about a new thread (or sub thread?) for "Views from Citi Field Sections". I don't know about you, but with all the new quirks of CF--and I LOVE everything about the place--it'd be nice to have ACTUAL views from sections/rows all in one place.

I mean, most of us go to lots of games, I've been to 4 or 5 already and haven't sat in the same seat twice and I have a saturday plan! When I'm looking to buy tix either from someone here, or Stubhub, or even directly from the team, the little picture that shows up from the best part of the section on mets.com sometimes isn't enough...

Do you guys think this would add any value?

[SteveJRogers]

BTW, while up on the Pepsi Porch I just HAD to ask for a Coca-Cola, but the vendor didn't get that I was trying to be funny, or didn't understand what I was saying. Ah well...

[JLG]

Speaking of that area, I was trying to see how you get from there to the "Mo Zone" Couldn't see a direct way to it, unless I just wasn't looking hard enough?

I was interested in how to get in when I ordered tickets. When they came they say to enter GATE BP. So there must be a way. I'll let you know on Wednesday.


Mo Zone Tickets - These tickets are sold to groups only!
Tuesday April 28 – Met’s vs Florida Marlins
I bought two tickets to the Mo Zone and will only be able to use one. I want someone from BBF to get a chance to see the game from RIGHT FIELD. I paid approximately $85 per ticket which includes Game Tickets, Catering Package S&H. I might sell both if someone really needs two.
If interested please PM.

*Catering Package Includes:
Fresh Popped Popcorn
Cracker Jack
Green Salad
Garganelli Salad
Nathan's "The Original" Beef Frankfurters
Crispy Chicken Tenders
Non Alcoholic Beverage Service - Assorted soda, fruit juices, and bottled water

[Oct251986]

Speaking of that area, I was trying to see how you get from there to the "Mo Zone" Couldn't see a direct way to it, unless I just wasn't looking hard enough?

When you go into the Bullpen Gate walk past the steps on the left and then make a left. You wills see a set of doors there. The only way that I know that is that we saw Mr. Met go through those doors last Sunday and then saw the sign on the door.

[Confused]

i also got season tickets 2 years ago, so that i could pick and choose the games i wanted to go. i didnt go to all the games, and the ones i didnt go, i either gave away, sold for what ever the person wanted to give, or just ate.

same thing for most of last year, and then i heard rumors on how much tickets prices would be, so i started to sell on stub hub. made some money.

then the whole process of seats at citifield started, and the mets saying my old shea seats (lodge 5) were equivalent to ceasar bronze (ouch). for 18K a year, i would have to sell a lot.

even when i was "downgraded" promenade gold, i kept this mind set.

but now 3 weeks into the season, all im looking to make is money for the playoff tickets. if thats all the money i make back, im okay with that.

but just today, some one purchase the sunday may 31st game for 125 (1 ticket) on stubhub.

life is funny.

;)\

[Fudbutter]

Its days like today that I thank God I bought season ticket ...

Hopefully, there will come a day when you are walking into the stadium for playoff games and you realize that you have the same great tix for every post season game in "your" seat. Finally, you walk into game 7 and the expense, concern over eating tix and all that time you invested fades away forever and you get to live the rest of your life knowing that every time you see a reference or replay of that game you say to yourself, gee at least I made a great decision back then.

The downside is that after a decade or so, it does get a bit tiresome dealing with the time commitment and ticket management, but in between now and then, it is a great ride. The teams and years as an everyday goer are the ones that are truly your teams.

[Fudbutter]

I posted about this before but why do these ballparks totally ignore provding any healthy food? The only things the wife and I are allowed to have at this park is coffee, water and diet soda. The Worlds Fare salad is totally unacceptable vis-a-vis price, quality, construction and lack of fat free dressings. We can cheat every so often but have to make up for it for at least a week so this is not working out well for us.

Last few years our saving grace was that fact that Subway had the option of making salads out of the shredded lettuce and veggie fodder topped with a choice of fat free dressings. I went to Subway yesterday and asked if they serve salads and they looked at me like I had four heads, It's just a matter of stocking plastic plates and forks.

Probably tilting at windmills here, but who can one complain to about this?

[Clark W]

I don't know if you all spoke about this but... What are they doing to the top of the scoreboard?
Are they adding a background to make the name more visible?

[LI METS FAN]

yesterday we went to Catch of The City and I had the flounder sandwich. It was terrific, not inexpensive but really tasty. I will go back there. No line either, and not exactly typical ballpark food but a nice change.

The guys in the seats behind us in the Promenade said that you can now get into the Promenade club regardless of your type of ticket? Don't know if its true, they went in with no problems, don't know if that was a fluke or if usage is low so they let people in.

[JeremyEye]

I don't know if you all spoke about this but... What are they doing to the top of the scoreboard?
Are they adding a background to make the name more visible?

I noticed this at the beginning of the game, and I"m almost 100% sure that is what they're doing (finally).

[SteveJRogers]

I noticed this at the beginning of the game, and I"m almost 100% sure that is what they're doing (finally).

Yup. They finally figured out what people were bitching about when they put up CITI FIELD on both sides of the of scoreboard! :eek:

[Strawman]

Didn't see anybody else claim this yet, but it's quite clear to me that Mets management is reading the posts here - and, in some cases, taking action based on what they're seeing.

Businesses pay big money for focus groups and customer surveys, and baseball fever's citi field thread is about as authentic (and balanced, I might add) as it gets.

So I think it's good to keep it up with suggestions etc. The Mets ownership is far from perfect - the exclusive and half-empty "clubs" and pathetic and anti-baseball 600-dollar section behind the plate prove that. But I do think that unlike the ownership group across the town - led by Randy "We're done talking about seats" Levine - the Mets are somewhat open to hearing from fans.

[CFmets09]

.............

[foulpole]

Speaking of that area, I was trying to see how you get from there to the "Mo Zone" Couldn't see a direct way to it, unless I just wasn't looking hard enough?


When you go into the Bullpen Gate walk past the steps on the left and then make a left. You wills see a set of doors there. The only way that I know that is that we saw Mr. Met go through those doors last Sunday and then saw the sign on the door.

You can't get near the Mo' Zone without Mo' Zone tix. And when you have tickets to the Mo' Zone, you do not have access to the rest of the stadium. That's what I was told by my rep when I went on my tour. Of course, she also told me that the centerfield bar would only sell Bud, and parking for the St John's game would be $18, so what the hell do I know.

[KoosFan]

Didn't see anybody else claim this yet, but it's quite clear to me that Mets management is reading the posts here - and, in some cases, taking action based on what they're seeing.

Businesses pay big money for focus groups and customer surveys, and baseball fever's citi field thread is about as authentic (and balanced, I might add) as it gets.

So I think it's good to keep it up with suggestions etc. The Mets ownership is far from perfect - the exclusive and half-empty "clubs" and pathetic and anti-baseball 600-dollar section behind the plate prove that. But I do think that unlike the ownership group across the town - led by Randy "We're done talking about seats" Levine - the Mets are somewhat open to hearing from fans.

I think you've made a pretty astute observation.
If they want to gauge how diehards feel (on multiple topics) this is a pretty good place to start their search.

Speaking directly to management:

You've built a terrific ballpark and from my experiences there,
the new home for the Mets and their fans is awesome.

That said, since this is a home for the fans as well as the players,
what's in the home matters so please be careful about managing expectations,
the "interactive museum" being a case in point.

We're Mets fans, we may be used to getting promised the moon and getting
Hoboken instead but that doesn't mean we like it.

All you had to do was put out an official press release BEFORE the park opened
that said that it wouldn't be done in time for OD because you wanted to do it right.

That and a few words about making the park more Mets-centric as the season progressed
and a lot of the bad press and fan bashing could have been avoided.

But you didn't 'cause it "wasn't a priority" and I hope that public black eye
stung real good 'cause you asked for it.
So moving forward, I hope you learned your lesson or next time the kick
to the privates will hurt a heckuva lot worse.

I have no advice for you on how to handle the Promenade "stairs instead of portals" decision.
You're on your own on that screw-up.
That one definitely deserves a good gonad flattening.

Thanks for your time and LET"S GO METS!!

PS Tell Fred to get over the Ebbets fixation and rename the Club SHEA or PAYSON
or ANYTHING else as long as it has something to do with the team he owns.

[Greg B.]

A question for the locals: assuming things work out for me medically, I'm hoping to visit Citi Field later this year. I spent a bit of time on Expedia looking into accommodations, and it is a bit confusing. I don't mind paying a reasonable amount of money for a hotel room, and I know that in NYC those are not cheap. However, the first place I checked was the Holiday Inn nearest to Citi, and they want over $500 for a room! That's ridiculous. I could stay at a couple of the hotels near Laguardia for about a third of that, or even get what sounds like a good hotel in Manhattan for a lot less than $500.

Obviously if I stayed in Manhattan that would give me a lot of touristy options for non-baseball things. I would be flying in so I won't have a car. I think I could catch the train to Citi from there easy enough. If I stayed at one of the places by the airport is there anything of interest there?

Any advice gratefully accepted.

[Strawman]

A question for the locals: assuming things work out for me medically, I'm hoping to visit Citi Field later this year. I spent a bit of time on Expedia looking into accommodations, and it is a bit confusing. I don't mind paying a reasonable amount of money for a hotel room, and I know that in NYC those are not cheap. However, the first place I checked was the Holiday Inn nearest to Citi, and they want over $500 for a room! That's ridiculous. I could stay at a couple of the hotels near Laguardia for about a third of that, or even get what sounds like a good hotel in Manhattan for a lot less than $500.

Obviously if I stayed in Manhattan that would give me a lot of touristy options for non-baseball things. I would be flying in so I won't have a car. I think I could catch the train to Citi from there easy enough. If I stayed at one of the places by the airport is there anything of interest there?

Any advice gratefully accepted.
Greg - your best bet is weekend accommodations. Prices drop dramatically at pretty decent midtown and near-midtown hotels on the weekends, and you can often get a 2-night flat rate package deal with breakfast included. I'd recommend making a list of hotels that sound good in midtown - you'll want to be near either Times Square on the west side or Grand Central on the east side so you can easily grab the No. 7 train to the game (about 30 mins). Then go to each hotel's website and look for weekend package deals. You'll save hundreds. You can also look for a room near LaGuardia, which is right down the road from the ballpark - but you'll miss the NYC sights that way.

[KoosFan]

Here's another shot from a different angle to help illustrate where I think the Mets Museum will go:

[atdy17]

Here's another shot from a different angle to help illustrate where I think the Mets Museum will go:

The last time I went around there it was under construction. So that could be were the Mets Museum could be.

[SteveJRogers]

The last time I went around there it was under construction. So that could be were the Mets Museum could be.

I'm pretty sure that's where the supposed Outback Steakhouse is going though. I mean nothing is there now, but there was talk during the winter that that area was going to be for retail space, hence the talk of Outback.

Not sure if the Mets ever announced a deal with Outback, or people were just speculating.

[ubinfl]

Here's another shot from a different angle to help illustrate where I think the Mets Museum will go:

When we were in town for opening day that area was a huge construction equipment staging area. Most likely still is.

One can only hope that they will put a Mets Museum there or somewhere in that building. The lack of one is certainly a huge oversight on the part of the powers that be.

Bill
Stuart, Florida

[Jbutta29]

I posted about this before but why do these ballparks totally ignore provding any healthy food? The only things the wife and I are allowed to have at this park is coffee, water and diet soda. The Worlds Fare salad is totally unacceptable vis-a-vis price, quality, construction and lack of fat free dressings. We can cheat every so often but have to make up for it for at least a week so this is not working out well for us.

Last few years our saving grace was that fact that Subway had the option of making salads out of the shredded lettuce and veggie fodder topped with a choice of fat free dressings. I went to Subway yesterday and asked if they serve salads and they looked at me like I had four heads, It's just a matter of stocking plastic plates and forks.

Probably tilting at windmills here, but who can one complain to about this?

I mean if you are just looking for Salads, well then i dont know, but what do you consider healthy food?!? I would think just eat before or after the park?? Healthy food doesnt seem to be a ballpark staple...

[Jbutta29]

What does everyone think about a new thread (or sub thread?) for "Views from Citi Field Sections". I don't know about you, but with all the new quirks of CF--and I LOVE everything about the place--it'd be nice to have ACTUAL views from sections/rows all in one place.

I mean, most of us go to lots of games, I've been to 4 or 5 already and haven't sat in the same seat twice and I have a saturday plan! When I'm looking to buy tix either from someone here, or Stubhub, or even directly from the team, the little picture that shows up from the best part of the section on mets.com sometimes isn't enough...

Do you guys think this would add any value?

I like this idea alot.

[Jbutta29]

so anyone think that they will charge less for tix when Ollie pitches....yeesh.

[RayNY]

When we were in town for opening day that area was a huge construction equipment staging area. Most likely still is.

One can only hope that they will put a Mets Museum there or somewhere in that building. The lack of one is certainly a huge oversight on the part of the powers that be.

Bill
Stuart, Florida

That and also the lack of really anything Mets related throughout the ballpark concourses. Having Mr. Met on directional signs and the NY logo on garbage cans is simply not enough. The apple and skyline are merely carry-overs from Shea, which I like, but just those alone are not enough to pay any "significant" tribute to honor a proud Mets history. I like the banners on the outside, but that style needs to be continued inside the concourses as well (of METS players not Brooklyn Dodgers or Ebbets Field). Photos and history facts (again of METS) mounted onto the walls would be a nice touch.

I wish it didn't have to take a mob of angry neglected Mets fans to finally make the Wilpons do something about this but that's what it came down to. Shame on the Wilpons really. And now that it's come to that, I hope they don't just rush it and do a half-assed job.

Guys let's face it. The Wilpons wouldn't be doing ANYTHING more to this ballpark if the fans didn't react. This was not supposed to be a "work in progress," as far as they were concerned they were DONE with the ballpark by opening day. It's only after strong fan criticism that they are now deciding to do more to add Mets tribute. It's obvious that Fred Wilpon, the owner of the Mets, really doesn't have any passion for the Mets or their history. Instead, the Mets are his "vehicle" so to speak, which gets him as close as he can ever get to having back his beloved Brooklyn Dodgers.

[metsforever7515]

Alright just got home. At least we took the series. Great porch seats. Row 1 in section 302. Took a few panoramas, again working with PC and Mac so it might take a few but I'll post the good ones.

[Jbutta29]

Here's another shot from a different angle to help illustrate where I think the Mets Museum will go:

god those ads are just blatantly awful.

[metfan13]

That and also the lack of really anything Mets related throughout the ballpark concourses. Having Mr. Met on directional signs and the NY logo on garbage cans is simply not enough. The apple and skyline are merely carry-overs from Shea, which I like, but just those alone are not enough to pay any "significant" tribute to honor a proud Mets history. I like the banners on the outside, but that style needs to be continued inside the concourses as well (of METS players not Brooklyn Dodgers or Ebbets Field). Photos and history facts (again of METS) mounted onto the walls would be a nice touch.

I wish it didn't have to take a mob of angry neglected Mets fans to finally make the Wilpons do something about this but that's what it came down to. Shame on the Wilpons really. And now that it's come to that, I hope they don't just rush it and do a half-assed job.

Guys let's face it. The Wilpons wouldn't be doing ANYTHING more to this ballpark if the fans didn't react. This was not supposed to be a "work in progress," as far as they were concerned they were DONE with the ballpark by opening day. It's only after strong fan criticism that they are now deciding to do more to add Mets tribute. It's obvious that Fred Wilpon, the owner of the Mets, really doesn't have any passion for the Mets or their history. Instead, the Mets are his "vehicle" so to speak, which gets him as close as he can ever get to having back his beloved Brooklyn Dodgers.

Wish it didn't take a mod of impatient Mets "fans" to spoil the excitement over a new park. PLus nwo we have the self-fulfilling prophecies - "oh they ONLY did such and such because the fans complained". Um, NO, they have had plans to do things but people can't be patient.

[KoosFan]

I'm pretty sure that's where the supposed Outback Steakhouse is going though. I mean nothing is there now, but there was talk during the winter that that area was going to be for retail space, hence the talk of Outback.

Not sure if the Mets ever announced a deal with Outback,
or people were just speculating.

Until the Iron Triangle is leveled, they'd be crazy to think that's a good location
to put a year round restaurant like an Outback.

Not saying your supposition is wrong, just saying that as things stand now and for the foreseeable future,
if there's no game, there are better areas to go to eat.

[RayNY]

Wish it didn't take a mod of impatient Mets "fans" to spoil the excitement over a new park. PLus nwo we have the self-fulfilling prophecies - "oh they ONLY did such and such because the fans complained". Um, NO, they have had plans to do things but people can't be patient.

If they had plans to do things why wasn't it done? Don't give me the "work in progress" bs either. Take a look at New Yankee Stadium. Obviously they had more than enough time to finish up EVERYTHING they did in their new stadium that pays tribute to their team's heritage. They have the great hall, museum, HOF, monument park, etc... The Mets won't have anything even close to the scale of what the Yankees have, and that's fine, but if the Yankees were able to do so much in their allotted amount of time, why haven't the Mets done anything?

The answer is: they planned NOT to do it. Only after they realized that Mets fans are angry over it are they deciding to now do something. Why is that so hard for you to understand and/or why are people like you in such denial?

[nymdan]

Not sure if anybody else noticed (or mentioned this), but they started putting up a black background behind the Citi Field lettering on top of the CF scoreboard.

[SteveJRogers]

Wish it didn't take a mod of impatient Mets "fans" to spoil the excitement over a new park. PLus nwo we have the self-fulfilling prophecies - "oh they ONLY did such and such because the fans complained". Um, NO, they have had plans to do things but people can't be patient.

You, Corey and other pom-pom wavers really believe that don't you?

It has nothing to do with being impatient, its the fact that the Wilpons, and the franchise in general, have had a history of not quite respecting its past, or treating Met alumni with much respect.

How many instances over the years has Tom Seaver's relationship with the team been strained?

Gary Cohen in the book Faith And Fear In Flushing makes a suggestion that Gooden and Strawberry are what is keeping the Mets HOF dormant since 2002. And despite Corey saying they had "only a few good years as Mets" they do belong in the Mets Hall, but you had better believe they aren't because in part to their strained relations with current Met ownership.

They completely botched the Shea countdown. I mean how many Lincoln-Mercury dealers did they have pull down the numbers? They treated it as something they "had" to do, not something they "WANTED TO DO!"

I hate to actually admit Mongoose is right, but while it has been discontinued across the board in baseball, except the Bronx, it was under Wilpon's watch that Old Timers Day was discontinued as a practice.

In other words, this is coming from nearly 30 years now of Fred Wilpon having icy relationships with former Mets, former Met employees and just plain disregard for Met history. It has nothing to do with an isolated issue with the ballpark.

[SteveJRogers]

Why is that so hard for you to understand and/or why are people like you in such denial?

Because fans like him(?) and Corey are either too young, or ignorant, to know that this has been par the course for the Wilpon ownership.

[KoosFan]

:clapping:clapping
You, Corey and other pom-pom wavers really believe that don't you?

It has nothing to do with being impatient, its the fact that the Wilpons, and the franchise in general, have had a history of not quite respecting its past, or treating Met alumni with much respect.

How many instances over the years has Tom Seaver's relationship with the team been strained?

Gary Cohen in the book Faith And Fear In Flushing makes a suggestion that Gooden and Strawberry are what is keeping the Mets HOF dormant since 2002. And despite Corey saying they had "only a few good years as Mets" they do belong in the Mets Hall, but you had better believe they aren't because in part to their strained relations with current Met ownership.

They completely botched the Shea countdown. I mean how many Lincoln-Mercury dealers did they have pull down the numbers? They treated it as something they "had" to do, not something they "WANTED TO DO!"

I hate to actually admit Mongoose is right, but while it has been discontinued across the board in baseball, except the Bronx, it was under Wilpon's watch that Old Timers Day was discontinued as a practice.

In other words, this is coming from nearly 30 years now of Fred Wilpon having icy relationships with former Mets, former Met employees and just plain disregard for Met history. It has nothing to do with an isolated issue with the ballpark.

:clapping:clapping:clapping:clapping:clapping

Mets History First!!!

[SteveJRogers]

Hell, the fact that the 1969 Met celebration appears nowhere in the schedule of promotions should be a big clue, and don't tell me, again, that it is because of scheduling. Lets see;

2006 Yearbook, published in early April, lists the 1986 Celebration among the promotion schedule

And ditto for the dates for both the 2003 1973 celebration (listed as a Chase promotion day, that would be a reprint of the '73 yearbook) and 1999's 1969 celebration, also listed as a Chase promotion day, a video, as well as the last "official" Old Timers Game.

[Jbutta29]

you would think that they would be happy to remind fans that this team IS capable of winning a world series!!

[Greg B.]

Not sure if anybody else noticed (or mentioned this), but they started putting up a black background behind the Citi Field lettering on top of the CF scoreboard.

We need to start an argument about how it should be blue and orange, and how the choice of black shows that the owners are somehow uncaring about the fans... :hissyfit:

[SteveJRogers]

Speaking of which, while I disagree with the notion of putting the banners up for the non-championship teams, but uh, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE BANNERS? Greg over at FaithAndFearInFlushing would also like to know (http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/24/4163584.html)

You know;

1969 World Champions
1973 NL Champions
1986 World Champions
1988 NL East Champions
1999 Wild Card Winner, NLDS Champions
2000 NL Champions
2006 NL East Champions, NLDS Champions

In other words

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2720891047_58c35c652c.jpg

[RayNY]

Speaking of which, while I disagree with the notion of putting the banners up for the non-championship teams, but uh, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE BANNERS?

OMG you are so impatient!! Don't you know this takes time? It's a work in progress!! They will do it eventually like maybe next month or something but c'mon you can't expect this park to be honoring Mets history and heritage by opening day geez!!! LOL :rolleyes:;)

[metfan13]

If they had plans to do things why wasn't it done? Don't give me the "work in progress" bs either. Take a look at New Yankee Stadium. Obviously they had more than enough time to finish up EVERYTHING they did in their new stadium that pays tribute to their team's heritage. They have the great hall, museum, HOF, monument park, etc... The Mets won't have anything even close to the scale of what the Yankees have, and that's fine, but if the Yankees were able to do so much in their allotted amount of time, why haven't the Mets done anything?

The answer is: they planned NOT to do it. Only after they realized that Mets fans are angry over it are they deciding to now do something. Why is that so hard for you to understand and/or why are people like you in such denial?

Ah, it's BS because YOU say so. ok.

I'm not in denial. I just don't get my undies in a bunch over every perceived slight. Maybe the Yanks should have spent more time properly constructing their rightfield wall. But actually, I don't CARE what the Yankees do, what they have, what they're going to get. Means nothing at all to me.

[metfan13]

Because fans like him(?) and Corey are either too young, or ignorant, to know that this has been par the course for the Wilpon ownership.

OK, now we're stooping to calling other fans ignorant. Very nice. Way to improve the conversation.

[baseballman1243]

Speaking of which, while I disagree with the notion of putting the banners up for the non-championship teams, but uh, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE BANNERS? Greg over at FaithAndFearInFlushing would also like to know (http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/24/4163584.html)

You know;

1969 World Champions
1973 NL Champions
1986 World Champions
1988 NL East Champions
1999 Wild Card Winner, NLDS Champions
2000 NL Champions
2006 NL East Champions, NLDS Champions

In other words

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2720891047_58c35c652c.jpg

HAHAHA a wild card banner! I LOVE IT!

[metfan13]

Aren't the WS flags on the flag poles?

[SteveJRogers]

Ah, it's BS because YOU say so. ok.

I'm not in denial. I just don't get my undies in a bunch over every perceived slight. Maybe the Yanks should have spent more time properly constructing their rightfield wall. But actually, I don't CARE what the Yankees do, what they have, what they're going to get. Means nothing at all to me.

Yeah but it has nothing to do with something here, something there, it has to do with 30 years now of general indifference, or doing "the least that they can do" when it comes to honoring their past.

If it WAS something here, something there, then yeah, their "We haven't gotten to it yet, but we will, its in the plans" then no one would call BS on it.

You have to look beyond the spin in times like this, notice the patterns, and the patterns say that the Wilpons have cared little about recognizing and celebrating the Mets past.

[mets16]

HAHAHA a wild card banner! I LOVE IT!

On behalf of the other Mets fans, we are truly honored to have you of all people love it. Thanks for your continued insightful posts.

[SteveJRogers]

OK, now we're stooping to calling other fans ignorant. Very nice. Way to improve the conversation.

You may be too young to know, or for whatever reason not know. Hence "ignorant" to the Wilpon's track record when it comes to relations with ex-Mets and whatnot.

[Oct251986]

I am actually glad that they didn't put up pennants for the East or the Wild Card wins. What is the definition of a pennant in baseball lingo? Winning your league!

I can't tell you how much talk I have heard from friends that are Yankees fans about the fact that we put up something for a Wild Card win.

Come to think of it does any other team do that? I don't know.


Speaking of which, while I disagree with the notion of putting the banners up for the non-championship teams, but uh, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE BANNERS? Greg over at FaithAndFearInFlushing would also like to know (http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/24/4163584.html)

You know;

1969 World Champions
1973 NL Champions
1986 World Champions
1988 NL East Champions
1999 Wild Card Winner, NLDS Champions
2000 NL Champions
2006 NL East Champions, NLDS Champions

In other words

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2720891047_58c35c652c.jpg

[SteveJRogers]

Aren't the WS flags on the flag poles?

JUST the 4 World Series appearing teams, where is the honoring of 1988, 1999 and 2006? As Greg in FaFiF says, EVERY OCTOBER COUNTS! (http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/24/4163589.html)


Then you get to the three other playoff teams. And let's be clear: all of them, for the purposes of commemoration, are equal.

Though one of them was more equal than others, technicality that one somehow seems lesser aside.

When a wise guy, perhaps one hosting a sports talk radio show, would want to find an eighteenth or nineteenth reason to put down the Mets when the team called Shea Stadium home, he might eventually get to "and they have a banner up for winning the Wild Card!" because somehow making the postseason but not making all of its hay could be considered undignified.

I loved the 1999 season as no other, so it should be no surprise that I want it marked. But I loved that banner, too. I loved that it changed its wording once or twice. The Mets weren't shy about posting something for 1999 in 2000. There was no flag to run up a pole, but a banner they could do (the Mets were always big on banners, you might remember). If memory serves — and, contrary to popular belief, it doesn't always — they gave themselves credit first for just the Wild Card. Then they realized, no, wait a sec, we did more than that. Not that winning the Wild Card wasn't something, considering how they had to get there. But the banner morphed into a celebration of the playoff victory over Arizona: NLDS Champs.

A little unwieldy, but accurate, even if I don't remember once thinking, on the heels of Todd Pratt's home run, "We're champions of the division series!" Yet the real beauty of that 1999 team wasn't a specific title — and without a division in its pocket, it was hard to identify one anyway — but the spirit it represented. The '99 Mets' shiningest moments may have glittered most strongly in their final two games, known in Amazin' shorthand as the Grand Slam Single Game and the Kenny Rogers Game (except, of course, for the Kenny Rogers part). Yet "SPLIT LAST TWO NLCS GAMES" wouldn't have looked quite right in right field, so the eventual compromise that became the 1999 banner...

1999
WILD CARD
& NLDS
WINNERS

...fit just fine. If it couldn't be briefly explained, all the better. Baseball is about passing on stories. If someone ever wanted to know, "What's the deal with Wild Card & NLDS winners sign?" you could pass a good half-inning nailing the nomenclature for the uninitiated.

The other two markers pasted over right field at Shea, one for the 1988 N.L. EAST DIVISION CHAMPIONS and one for the 2006 N.L. EAST & NLDS CHAMPIONS...bring those back, too, in some form. Like 1999, neither of those years was quite poleworthy, but they ought to be good enough to be scrawled on a wall and never erased. There's nothing more you can do in the course of 162 games (or 163, if you're 1999) then get to the playoffs. You can win a division title, and that can be an awful lot of fun, but it doesn't guarantee you a trip up the flagpole. That's why the three non-pennant playoff teams are equal...even if one, because of the magnificent hell they put themselves and us through, will always be a little more equal than the others, certainly in my heart.

The '99 Mets were in stone contention for the division title most of that season, incidentally. They were alone in first as late as August 19 and within one game of the top entering the rollercoaster that the year became starting with a frightening plunge into Turner Field on September 21. From there, it was a freefall, but then — unlike what you might have noticed the last couple of Septembers — there was a rise, culminating in three consecutive wins at the end of the schedule, thereby necessitating a fourth game and a fourth win...which was won, on October 4, 1999. That pushed the Mets into the playoffs, which is the reason there was any kind of banner to script at all.

The Mets winning a few games when they absolutely needed them...shoot, that should be worthy of a wall unto itself.

[DukeBX]

OMG you are so impatient!! Don't you know this takes time? It's a work in progress!! They will do it eventually like maybe next month or something but c'mon you can't expect this park to be honoring Mets history and heritage by opening day geez!!! LOL :rolleyes:;)

:laugh :laugh

[SteveJRogers]

I am actually glad that they didn't put up pennants for the East or the Wild Card wins. What is the definition of a pennant in baseball lingo? Winning your league!

I can't tell you how much talk I have heard from friends that are Yankees fans about the fact that we put up something for a Wild Card win.

Come to think of it does any other team do that? I don't know.

The Cardinals do, and the Braves as well, especially during the Division title run from 1991 through 2005. Towards the end they even had little "banner" ceremonies after clinching!

http://blogoehlert.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/braves2.jpg

[metfan13]

You may be too young to know, or for whatever reason not know. Hence "ignorant" to the Wilpon's track record when it comes to relations with ex-Mets and whatnot.

You couldn't be more wrong, but I still won't call you ignorant.

[SteveJRogers]

I can't tell you how much talk I have heard from friends that are Yankees fans about the fact that we put up something for a Wild Card win.


F them then, or as Greg said in my reply on his blog that actually brought up the Yankees:


Re: Re: Re: Wallworthy
by Greg on Sat 25 Apr 2009 10:02 AM EDT | Profile | Permanent Link
Let me check...nope, don't care about what other teams do.

Long live 1999.

[SteveJRogers]

You couldn't be more wrong, but I still won't call you ignorant.

Fair point, but I don't see how "ignorant" was that derogatory.

[SteveJRogers]

HAHAHA a wild card banner! I LOVE IT!

Oh I guess you try to pretend 1995, and Donnie Baseball's ONLY postseason never happened because you just won the Wild Card and lost a tough, but hard fought, and classic ALDS to the Mariners?

[IDRAFT1]

so anyone think that they will charge less for tix when Ollie pitches....yeesh.

Ha!

They should. It is my policy this year to sell every game he pitches, and take whatever I can get. Last year I sat through way too many "bad Ollie" games and they are the absolute worst for an in-stadium fan, three innings into the game and it's over. I even got stuck watching him "pitch" on a trip to DC. A year ago with this weather report I go today, this year, a year smarter, I took face plus fees on Stubhub on Thursday once I was sure it would be Ollie.

At these prices the risk/reward with Perez is not worth it.

[metsforever7515]

Not sure if anybody else noticed (or mentioned this), but they started putting up a black background behind the Citi Field lettering on top of the CF scoreboard.

Yup, took a shot of it I think...

[metsforever7515]

Ha!

They should. It is my policy this year to sell every game he pitches, and take whatever I can get. Last year I sat through way too many "bad Ollie" games and they are the absolute worst for an in-stadium fan, three innings into the game and it's over. I even got stuck watching him "pitch" on a trip to DC. A year ago with this weather report I go today, this year, a year smarter, I took face plus fees on Stubhub on Thursday once I was sure it would be Ollie.

At these prices the risk/reward with Perez is not worth it.

I'm telling you, we should work a trade with Bayonne Little League for that girl...

[YanksRule]

The retrosheets page of Citi Field firsts is up: http://www.retrosheet.org/ballparks/citi_field.htm

[jerseyyankeefan]

Speaking of which, while I disagree with the notion of putting the banners up for the non-championship teams, but uh, WHERE THE HELL ARE THE BANNERS? Greg over at FaithAndFearInFlushing would also like to know (http://faithandfear.blogharbor.com/blog/_archives/2009/4/24/4163584.html)

You know;

1969 World Champions
1973 NL Champions
1986 World Champions
1988 NL East Champions
1999 Wild Card Winner, NLDS Champions
2000 NL Champions
2006 NL East Champions, NLDS Champions

In other words

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/2720891047_58c35c652c.jpg

They have a call into the Dodgers...

[johnql]

For the most part, I have stayed away from entering the fray in this whole Mets Museum and Citi Field Metsness “discussion” because it seemed pointless to me – the two extremist positions appear intractable and the debate often devolves into name-calling amid a repetitive litany of so-called facts sandwiched between assumptions. Maybe it’s just a slow BBF forum day or maybe I’m just po’d because Ollie stank up the joint yet again today. Whatever the reason, I have decided to inject my two cents.

What do we know? What can we honestly say is factual? No assumptions, no speculation.

We know that there is presently no Mets Museum at Citi Field. That’s about all that we know. Was it ever planned? Apparently yes, since it was touted on the Mets web site during the construction phase of CF. Is it still planned? Apparently yes, since management addressed the issue in the past two weeks. This state of affairs, of course, has incurred the wrath of some Mets fans who believe that they were, at worst, lied to or, at best, misled and disappointed since the Museum was not delivered on OD. There is also a contingent of fans who probably don’t even care one way or the other. The media has given a voice to an angry contingent of fans who have been quite vocal about this but no one can reliably say how representative these fans are. Is it a small but vocal minority or is this sentiment the rule of thumb? No one knows.

Why wasn’t the Museum built and ready for Opening Day 2009? I don’t think anybody knows the answer to that question either. Lots of speculation, sure, but a definitive answer, no. As far as I know, no one on this forum has been privy to management discussions in the planning and development of CF, now or ever. That means that pretty much any answer to this question involves speculation. I think it’s safe to say that the Museum wasn’t an afterthought since it was included on the web site. However, the simple fact that the Museum doesn’t exist means that it wasn’t a priority as far as OD was concerned. Was it ever a priority? I don’t think anybody can answer that. Over the course of three years of actual construction and probably several more on the drawing board, plans do change, especially when economic conditions change.

Metsness – the problem with this discussion is that it’s almost entirely subjective. Color schemes, photos, banners, signage – none of it will ever please everybody. Simply impossible. What upsets some (e.g., Ebbets Club) may not upset others. What’s lacking to some (e.g., not enough use of Mets colors) is refined elegance or the classic look of a retro park to others. To some, 22 banners lining the exterior of the building doesn’t suffice because they’re only on the outside. To others, the 22 banners added to the other design touches (silhouetted players, huge historical banner collage above the left field gate, Mr. Met images, logo’d gates) is a pretty good start, enough to buy enough goodwill to give Mets management a little extra time to add the finishing touches.

So, why the disconnect? Much of it can be blamed on the Mets’ poor communication skills – not keeping the public informed on a regular basis. Because of this lack of communication, their actions too often appear to be reactive, coming about only when public outcry demands it. The recent incident with Doc Gooden’s signature is a perfect example of how poorly the Mets handle their PR. The Mets need to recognize that good PR and customer service are crucial when it comes to managing expectations and perception. If, for instance, the Mets had modified their web site statement concerning the Museum six months ago to indicate that the Museum would not be ready for OD, the public would have been informed and would have had time to temper their disappointment. The disappointment would not have been allowed to fester into outrage. Similarly, the Mets should have addressed CF’s design elements much sooner (i.e., before hearing any complaints). If CF wasn’t going to be 100% complete on OD, just say so and give the public a reason. Again, such a proclamation would not have been greeted with applause but at least people would have known what to expect. Unfortunately, their approach is to avoid any negative press but they fail to realize that an information vacuum often leads to worse results in the long run.

I don’t presume to know why Mets management drops the ball so often on these types of issues. Is it because the Wilpons don’t care (either about the Mets or their fans)? I don’t know how anyone can state that as a fact. Any analysis of their motives and intentions by anyone outside of their inner circle is baseless speculation. Is it because they’re incompetent? That, to me, is probably closer to the truth and we, as observers, are better able to pass judgment here because we can point to actions and results. Were some of these problems exacerbated by the economy’s collapse and Bernie Madoff’s ponzi scheme? Possibly, but we’ll never know to what extent since they would never admit that to us.

That’s about all I have to say. Nothing revelatory but just something I wanted to get off my chest.

[Jbutta29]

Very well put John. Its a shame that while the stadium by most accounts is beautiful, I also dont find it to be what I personally was hoping for. My hopes were nurtured moreso by the uniqueness of other parks across the country.
So what I feel we have is a nice stadium(I dont care what THEY want it to be called) that isnt much else. It doesnt seem to capitalize on being a New York Ballpark or its location. This place could have been virtually interchanged with any team in any city for the most part. I am not even trying to compare it to places like Yankee Stadium, Fenway, Wrigley or even Shea. I am comparing it to the newer ballparks that bring something to the table in terms of originality and capitalizing on their location.

[BMF]

I'm really tired of these yankee fans coming to queens whether its shea or citi and constantly causing a raukus and disturbing an otherwise family event as a baseball game with constant booing and saying the mets suck. There's no need for it I've been to 5 games so far and there's 1 in everyone so far. I'm all for cheering the other team if its ur team. but when you root for the nationals and your a yankee fan causing a scene talking bout the mets suck in their own building your just blatently bashing the mets. There are kids at these games and your yelling obscenities and urking everyone els who came to enjoy the game. Trolling a thread is one thing being a jack_ss is another.

[peterrod16]

I'm really tired of these yankee fans coming to queens whether its shea or citi and constantly causing raukus and disturbing an otherwise family event as baseball game with constant booing and saying the mets suck. There's no need for it I've been to 5 games so far and there's 1 in everyone so far. I'm all for cheering the other team if its ur team.but when you root for the nationals and your a yankee fan causing a scene talking bout the mets suck in their own building your just blatently bashing the mets. There are kids at these games and your yelling obscenities and urking everyone els who came to enjoy the game. Trolling a thread is one thing being a jack_ss is another.

yeah that sounds bad. a few fans with too much alcohol and a reason for attention can do that.
Big man next time get a mets sercurity guard to calm or remove those fans.
Its our park and there is no need for that crap
i saw yankees phillies and this fan at Citi field yesterday
Look at the reaction of the shake shack employee priceless

[metsforever7515]

yeah that sounds bad. a few fans with too much alcohol and a reason for attention can do that.
Big man next time get a mets sercurity guard to calm or remove those fans.
Its our park and there is no need for that crap
i saw yankees phillies and this fan at Citi field yesterday
Look at the reaction of the employee of the shake shack priceless

A Red Sox fan isn't bad. Hell, I wore Mets stuff to a D-Backs game vs. the Giants and rooted for the D-Backs.

[baseballman1243]

On behalf of the other Mets fans, we are truly honored to have you of all people love it. Thanks for your continued insightful posts.

Okay.......

[baseballman1243]

Oh I guess you try to pretend 1995, and Donnie Baseball's ONLY postseason never happened because you just won the Wild Card and lost a tough, but hard fought, and classic ALDS to the Mariners?

I'm not saying that we have never won a wild card. But to put a banner up says "HEY GUESS WHAT WE CAME IN SECOND PLACE!"

[SteveJRogers]

I'm not saying that we have never won a wild card. But to put a banner up says "HEY GUESS WHAT WE CAME IN SECOND PLACE!"

No it says,
"Hey, remember 1999?
That dramatic final month push to get into October baseball?
Remember Melvin Mora racing home to score the winning run in Game 162?
Remember Al Leiter's performance in Game 163 in Cincy?
Remember Edgardo Alfonzo becoming Senor Octobre?
Remember Todd Pratt's series winning shot that shook Shea?
Remember beating the unbeatable Jon Smoltz to avoid getting swept at Shea?
Remember one of the most classic NLCS, hell, Postseason Games in history with Game 5?
Remember The Grand Slam Single?
And remember Piazza's shot that kept hope alive during Game 6?"

THAT is what a 1999 banner would say.

EVERY OCTOBER COUNTS!

[SteveJRogers]

The Mets also won the Wild Card in 2000, but managed to win the National League pennant. Do you want THAT taken down because the Mets finished second in both the Division and World Series?

[metsforever7515]

The Mets also won the Wild Card in 2000, but managed to win the National League pennant. Do you want THAT taken down because the Mets finished second in both the Division and World Series?

Uh oh. You brought up 2000 around a Yankee fan. :crazy:crazy

[Jbutta29]

A Red Sox fan isn't bad. Hell, I wore Mets stuff to a D-Backs game vs. the Giants and rooted for the D-Backs.

every Marlins game I go to down here no matter who they play I wear my Mets hat. Its called being a fan. Apparently Marlins fans dont understand just because you move somewhere you should forget your loyalty and history...kinda like the wilpons moving across the parking lot!!! OH SNAP!!

[SteveJRogers]

Uh oh. You brought up 2000 around a Yankee fan. :crazy:crazy

Heh, well it WAS a Wild Card winning season, sure the Mets failed to win said World Series, but the 2000 NL Champs banner does fly in Citi Field, along with 1973's banner, another year the Mets played, but failed to win the World Series. Heh, another 2nd place finish the Mets are celebrating. :crazy

[SteveJRogers]

Now, lets also bring up the other missing two banners:

1988
Hey, remember 1988?
Remember the 100 wins?
Remember the almost MVP like seasons out of Strawberry and McReynolds?
Remember Hojo following up his breakout year of 1987 with another good one?
Remember Carter's run at 300 homers?
Remember Jefferies hot start after his September callup?
Remember going up 2-1 against the Dodgers?
And Remember that was the year the Mets retired Tom Seaver's number?

2006
Hey, remember 2006?
Remember a strong start to the season, the Mets could do no wrong?
Remember that clinching night at Shea?
Remember Game 1 when LoDuca tagged two runners back-to-back?
Remember finishing off the Dodgers in three games?
Remember Game 6 against the Cardinals?
Remember Perez's performance in the postseason?
Remember "The Catch?" Why, its even memorialized here in Citi Field's Left Field Gate!

The banners may tell of "Un-Happy endings" but the stories of good times are still in them.

[metsforever7515]

Now, lets also bring up the other missing two banners:

1988
Hey, remember 1988?
Remember the 100 wins?
Remember the almost MVP like seasons out of Strawberry and McReynolds?
Remember Hojo following up his breakout year of 1987 with another good one?
Remember Carter's run at 300 homers?
Remember Jefferies hot start after his September callup?
Remember going up 2-1 against the Dodgers?
And Remember that was the year the Mets retired Tom Seaver's number?

2006
Hey, remember 2006?
Remember a strong start to the season, the Mets could do no wrong?
Remember that clinching night at Shea?
Remember Game 1 when LoDuca tagged two runners back-to-back?
Remember finishing off the Dodgers in three games?
Remember Game 6 against the Cardinals?
Remember Perez's performance in the postseason?
Remember "The Catch?" Why, its even memorialized here in Citi Field's Left Field Gate!

The banners may tell of "Un-Happy endings" but the stories of good times are still in them.

Ahhhh. 2006. *Fades into reminiscing about 2006*....

[baseballman1243]

No it says,
"Hey, remember 1999?
That dramatic final month push to get into October baseball?
Remember Melvin Mora racing home to score the winning run in Game 162?
Remember Al Leiter's performance in Game 163 in Cincy?
Remember Edgardo Alfonzo becoming Senor Octobre?
Remember Todd Pratt's series winning shot that shook Shea?
Remember beating the unbeatable Jon Smoltz to avoid getting swept at Shea?
Remember one of the most classic NLCS, hell, Postseason Games in history with Game 5?
Remember The Grand Slam Single?
And remember Piazza's shot that kept hope alive during Game 6?"

THAT is what a 1999 banner would say.



EVERY OCTOBER COUNTS!

Yea but it's still SECOND PLACE. You win the wild card and go on to win the pennant? Fine be my guest and put the pennant flag up. Any lower than that its pointless.

[baseballman1243]

You don't see the Rangers putting a 7th seed flag up.

[metsforever7515]

You don't see the Rangers putting a 7th seed flag up.

You don't see the Yankees throwing Ellsbury out at home either. :waving

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with putting up Wild Card banners. Hey, you won something, why not honor it.

[SteveJRogers]

Yea but it's still SECOND PLACE. You win the wild card and go on to win the pennant? Fine be my guest and put the pennant flag up. Any lower than that its pointless.

Not really in baseball.


You don't see the Rangers putting a 7th seed flag up.

Who cares what the Rangers do? But again, that is 7th seed, baseball it is 4th seed. BIG difference.

In the NHL EVERYONE it seems makes the postseason, in baseball it is still only 4. The Mets weren't the only team to spotlight postseason performing teams, even if the postseason came from finishing runner-up in the division.

[peterrod16]

13-Apr padres Plantium 41,007
15-Apr padres gold 35,581
16-Apr padres gold 35,985
17-Apr brewers gold 36,436
18-Apr brewers gold 36,312
19-Apr brewers gold 36,124
24-Apr nationals value 40,522
25-Apr nationals silver 39,960
26-Apr nationals silver 40,023

average 37,994
notice how lower ticket prices for the nats game can generate a 40K crowd
keep in mind yanks were in town when the mets faced the brewers
I will keep a track of attendance for the 2009 season

[SteveJRogers]

Anyway, I don't see anything wrong with putting up Wild Card banners. Hey, you won something, why not honor it.

Exactly. You aren't "winning" something by being the 7th seed in the NHL or NBA. You win something as the Wild Card team in both baseball and the NFL.

Every October counts in baseball, every January counts in football! But because every team seems to make it in the NBA and NHL, there is no rhyme or reason to say Every mid-April-May counts the same way June counts because of the Conference Finals and the actual Finals.

[Oct251986]

The Mets also won the Wild Card in 2000, but managed to win the National League pennant. Do you want THAT taken down because the Mets finished second in both the Division and World Series?

No you won the pennant. Thats the point of putting a pennant up. I guess that I am a traditionalist who still hates the idea of the wild card and interleague play. Would love to what Crash Davis has to say about the wild card.

[mets16]

Yea but it's still SECOND PLACE. You win the wild card and go on to win the pennant? Fine be my guest and put the pennant flag up. Any lower than that its pointless.

You're talking like you lived through/remembered baseball before the Wild Card was implemented. 15 year olds cannot be baseball "purists" simply because this is all you know.

[SteveJRogers]

No you won the pennant. Thats the point of putting a pennant up. I guess that I am a traditionalist who still hates the idea of the wild card and interleague play. Would love to what Crash Davis has to say about the wild card.

I'm pretty sure there are traditionalists who say that baseball hasn't had a true pennant race since 1968 if we want to take that logic. Especially after an 82-79 team won their Division, even if they knocked off a 99 win Reds team and took the defending champs to 7 games.

Can't put the genie back in the bottle in this case. And that doesn't mean you still shouldn't honor your non-pennant winning postseason runs.

EVERY OCTOBER COUNTS!

[Jbutta29]

If only that cheap ticket = attendance worked for teams like the marlins. 7 dollar tickets and they still cant get any fans....

[baseballman1243]

Not really in baseball.



Who cares what the Rangers do? But again, that is 7th seed, baseball it is 4th seed. BIG difference.

In the NHL EVERYONE it seems makes the postseason, in baseball it is still only 4. The Mets weren't the only team to spotlight postseason performing teams, even if the postseason came from finishing runner-up in the division.

Yea but they still made the playoffs didn't they? I'm not against the wild card, it was just created in order to expand the playoffs and make baseball more interesting, thus making more money. I don't see the accomplishment of being in second place. I really want to say that the Mets have no history which is the reason they put up wild card banners, but the thing is they do, which is why those other banners are up there. Personally if I was a fan I would be embarrassed to say my team came in second place that year.

[baseballman1243]

Oh yea I forgot:

EVERY OCTOBER COUNTS!

I guess that's the new catch phrase around these parts of bbf.

[Jbutta29]

Are you arguing the wild card banners or the NL East or NL champion banners as well? just checkin...

[mets16]

Yea but they still made the playoffs didn't they? I'm not against the wild card, it was just created in order to expand the playoffs and make baseball more interesting, thus making more money. I don't see the accomplishment of being in second place. I really want to say that the Mets have no history which is the reason they put up wild card banners, but the thing is they do, which is why those other banners are up there. Personally if I was a fan I would be embarrassed to say my team came in second place that year.

Thankfully, you are not a fan, hence your opinion doesn't matter :waving

[baseballman1243]

Are you arguing the wild card banners or the NL East or NL champion banners as well? just checkin...

Wild card. Winning your division is hard and obviously championship. Those deserve flags.

[SteveJRogers]

To use the MLB & NFL vs NBA & NHL analogy again, both baseball and football essentially (as two NFL teams have a bye in the First Round and all) have one "series" before the Conference/League Championship.

The NBA and NHL have two series before you even GET to the Conference Championship series. Hence there isn't a whole lot of weight given to finishing 2nd through 8th in the Conference. Okay, the Division winners get to celebrate, but for the most part, seeding is nothing "special" the way getting the Wild Card slot in baseball and football are. In part due to less rounds, and less teams getting in.

Sure its nice to get into postseasons in the NHL and NBA, and there have been classic moments and games in the first two rounds of both through the years, but the emphasis that is on the baseball and football first rounds is not there in those two sports.

Every October and Every January COUNTS. There is your bottom line.

[johnql]

Can someone tell me where they sell the seasoned fries?

[metsforever7515]

Are you arguing the wild card banners or the NL East or NL champion banners as well? just checkin...

HAHAHA! NL Champions? Really. That takes nothing. At all. Wow, what type of pathetic team would put up NL pennants?! :D

[metsforever7515]

Thankfully, you are not a fan, hence your opinion doesn't matter :waving

:D :highfive: