A 140 OPS+ IS HOF standard for LFers. There are some guys with that OPS+ that are out but there are also plenty of LFers with a lower OPS+ that are in.
Originally Posted by drstrangelove
Can you name a LFer with a 140 career OPS+ AND an MVP award who is not in the hall (non PEDs guy)?
Or if you still doubt that: what do you believe is the HOF cutoff in OPS+ for LFers?
I don't think you understand the value of black ink for HOFers. Ichiro has an OPS+ of below 120 and his HOF chances are 99.9%. multiple AS game appearances, MVP awards, ROY awards, leading the league in slugging and hits are all things that get noted by voters.
just look at ichiro and abreu. both are RFers but Abreu has a higher OPS+, OBP and power. but still Ichiro will go in on first ballot with 90+% while abreu likely will not get in.
and this is mostly because of his MVP and leading the league in hits multiple times as well as winning batting titles.
Just because there are (very few) guys with a 140 OPS+ who are not in it does not mean that braun has to do more than that to make it because of his black ink.
140 is usually already a ticket to the HOF but combined with that kind of black ink it's nearly a slam dunk.
Last edited by dominik; 12-01-2011 at 12:28 PM.
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