1976-77 Offseason Thread

[leecemark]

--The Knights are looking to upgrade at SP. We want a pitcher who can front the rotation all year, but more importantly will be part of the solution to our annual playoff falures. We can offer Mike Flanagan, 1979 CYA winner and current innings eater, to a rebuilding team as part of such a deal. We are also in a position to eat considerable salary so if you are looking to dump an expensive pitcher we may have a fit. Our second needs is a leftfielder who can either leadoff or hit in the middle of the order.
---Firstbase and DH are also open, but if we don't get a really good deal on a 1B there are enough options in frree agency that I'm sure we can get an adequete solution there. I'd like to improve at LH setup man too, if that can be accomplished as part of a bigger deal or at a price that won't hurt our ability to make a bigger deal for one of our main needs.

[leecemark]

--The Corsairs need 2 starting pitchers and a couple good relievers, plus some pitching depth. They have plenty of money to spend so some of those needs can be solved via free agency, but with some many pitchig needs I'd like to get part of the problem fixed early on the trade market. Like the Knights they are in a position to absorb salary. Unlike the Knights they can use a middling pitcher if they only or mostly have to take on salary and not give up talent/picks.
--They do have some infield surplus to offer. 3B Ken Reitz and SS Bill Russell or IF Derrell Thomas (can play everuday at either SS or 2B) are available for pitching. The Corsairs also have extra picks this year (the 7th and 11th picks in the first round and an extra 3rd). The first rounder(s) can be had for a pitcher(s) who offers multiple seasons of quality work at a reasonable price. I won't give up a first and take on a big contract in the same deal.

[Erik Bedard]

The Gold Sox confirm the Seaver trade.

In related news, the Gold Sox are looking to acquire more pitching. We'll need at least two starters and two relievers, and as usual, have no problem trading draft picks.

[Sockeye]

Sockeye's Angels trade

Junior Kennedy

to

Spikes

for

1978 5th rd pick (Spikes)

Mark will confirm.

[mwiggins]

Sockeye's Angels trade

Junior Kennedy

to

Spikes

for

1978 5th rd pick (Spikes)

Mark will confirm.

Confirmed. While he needs another year in the minors, his high walk rate and excellent range will fit well in San Diego.

[dust bunnies]

Corsairs Roster

C: Ed Ott (500K, D1974)
C: Brian Downing (1.0, 1973 draft/trade)
1B: Craig Kusick (500K, D1973)
2B: Dave Cash (6.50, FA76-77)
SS: Bill Russell (750K, 1975-1977)
SS: Fred Stanley (250K, D1975)
SS: Jerry Royster (250K, D1973)
3B: Bill Madlock (2.5M, D1973)
OF: Fred Lynn (3M, D1974)
OF: Gary Matthews (2.5M, D1972)
OF: Bill Buckner (250K, 1975-1977)
UTL: Derrell Thomas (.25, FA76-77)
P: Rick Reuschel (3M, 1972)
P: Doug Bird (2M, 1973)
P: Jim Willoughby (1M, 1974-1976)
P: Rick Rhoden (1M, 1974)
P: Tug McGraw (2.50, FA76-78)
SS: Tom Veryzer (250K, 1973)
OF: Gary Roenicke (1.0, 1976 draft)
IF: Jim Gantner (1.0, 1976 draft)
SS: Alfredo Griffin (.25, 1976 draft)
P: Ron Guidry (3M, 1975)
P: Tim Stoddard (1M, 1975)
3B: Ken Reitz (1M, 1972)
OF: Bobby Bonds (15M, 1974-1978)
C/1B: Earl Williams (.25, FA76-77)

[B]24 playes fpr 49.25/B]

--Tons of cash and the lineup is pretty set, although there is room for improvement. Need a couple solid starters and several good relievers to contend though.

Noting the published contract of Jim Willoughby (1M, 1974-76), I believe he should now be a free agent. Jack

[leecemark]

Joe's method of recording contracts is a little confusing. I think Willoughby is still in draft status, but I'll double check. The million dollars can probably be better spent elsewhere if he is done.

[mac195]

The Hard Cider have a surplus of CFers and would like to trade one of them.

Lyman Bostock - '75 draftee makes $2 M... lefty, should be an MVP contender in '77, ex51 in CF, 144 OPS+, .336 BA, another good year in '78.

Omar Moreno - '75 draftee makes 750K... lefty, vg range in CF the next 4 seasons and steals 297 bases, best year is '79.

Jerry Mumphrey - '74 draftee makes 500K... switch hitter, vg range and hits .287 in 512 PAs in '77, av range with low error rate in 78-79.

I'm looking for a player of similar value with a good year in '77 at C, SS, RF, LF or SP.

[Sockeye]

Sockeye's Angels

trade

Glenn Borgmann

to

Hard Cider

for

1978 5th rd pick (Hard Cider)

The HC will confirm!

[mac195]

Confirmed. HC raise a glass to welcome Glen Borgmann.

[rmadachik]

Who is running the cloverleafs team these days?

[jaybird_1981]

Joe's method of recording contracts is a little confusing. I think Willoughby is still in draft status, but I'll double check. The million dollars can probably be better spent elsewhere if he is done.

He was drafted in 1971 so he would have to be a FA wouldn't he?

[mac195]

Hard Cider
1B: Keith Hernandez* 2.5M 74 #6
1B: Jim Fregosi 250K FA 76-77
2B: Don Money 7.75M, FA 74-77
2B-3B: Rich Dauer 1M 76 #23
2B-3B: Jack Brohamer* 500K 72 3R
3B: Doug Rader 4.75M FA 76-77
DH-1B Willie Stargell 6M FA 76-79
OF: Lyman Bostock* 2M, 75 #9
OF: Jerry Mumphrey# 500K 74 3R
OF: Jerry Morales 500K FA 75-77
OF: Omar Moreno* 750K 75 #27
P: Ken Kravec 1M 75 #22
P: Doc Medich 1.5M 72 #14
P: Tom Underwood* 500K, '74 3R
P: Ron Reed 7M FA 76-78
RP: Dave LaRoche* 3M FA 76-78
Minors:
C: Dale Murphy 3M 76 #1
C: Glen Borgmann 250K FA 76-77
2B: Sandy Alomar# 250K FA 76-77
OF: Bombo Rivera 250K 75 4R (no season in '77)
OF: Willie Wilson# 2M 76 #10
OF: Mike Lum* 250K FA 76-78
22 players/45.5 M

FA
C: Gene Tenace
C: Buck Martinez
C: John Ellis
2B: Felix Millan
SS: Enzo Hernandez
SS: Don Kessinger
OF: Joe Rudi
OF: Merv Rettenmund HTD
OF: Ollie Brown
OF: Ed Armbrister
DH: Frank Robinson
SP: Jerry Koosman
SP: Ken Brett*
SP: Steve Renko
P: Marty Pattin
P: Jackie Brown
RP: Vic Albury
RP: Chip Lang
RP: Frank Riccelli
cut
P: Frank LaCorte

[mwiggins]

He was drafted in 1971 so he would have to be a FA wouldn't he?

Willoughby was signed by the Thunder to a 3-year/$1M deal in 1974, so he is a FA. The Joes must have traded for him.

[mwiggins]

Who is running the cloverleafs team these days?

Still Lew, I believe.

[catcher24]

Still Lew, I believe.

That is correct.

[jaybird_1981]

Dave Hamilton is on the trading block he is a Left Handed reliever with 307 Batters Faced and a 115 ERA+ he is on the last year of a 250K contract. I am looking for a reserve catcher or backup outfielder.

[leecemark]

Here is what I have for rosters at this time. I think I did the migration before the trade deadline last season and neglected to do it over at season's end so some traded players may be on the wrong team. Also alot of teams haven't posted their FA and I haven't looked through all the rosters to do it myself. Take a look at your roster and let me know who is missing and/or shouldn't be there. I'd like to have everything correct before the non-tender deadline of January 4 this time around instead of correcting through the course of the offseason.

[dust bunnies]

There are many errors in the Dust Bunnies’ roster as shown in #Post 43 in this Thread. In addition to the changes below, we have at least one trade not yet announced. As of now, please remove the following players from the DB roster.

All pitchers - yes, the DB have no continuing pitchers.
Ken Boswell
Bernie Carbo
Tim Foli
Vic Harris
Cliff Johnson

[rmadachik]

PORTLAND BEAVERS - UPDATED FOR 1977

Contract expires after the season listed.

POSITION PLAYERS

Starters:
C: Carlton Fisk 12M Contract: Franchise Player
1B: Steve Garvey 17M 1975 FA 1975-79
2B: Jerry Remy 1.5M 1975 Rookie 1975-80
3B: Butch Hobson 750K 1975 Rookie 1975-1980
SS: Dave Chalk 750K 1973 Rookie 1973 - 1978
LF: Bruce Bochte 1.5M Trade 1976-1979
CF: Ellis Valentine 2.0M 1975 Rookie 75-80
RF: George Foster 28M 1975 FA, 5 years 1975-1979

PITCHERS

SP: Bill Castro 750K 1974 Rookie 1974 - 1979
RP: Mike Proly 750K Rookie 1976-1981
SP: Mike Krukow 750K Rookie 1976-1981
SP: Pat Zachry 2M Rookie 1976-1981
SP: Bob Knepper 1.5M Rookie 1976-1981
RP: Steve Foucault 750K 1973 Rookie 1973 - 1978
SP: Rick Sutcliffe 500K Rookie 1976-1981
RP: Sid Monge 1.5M 1975 Rookie 1975-80

MINOR LEAGUES
OF: Tony Armas 750K Rookie 1976-1981
2B: Bob Sheldon 250K 1974 Rookie 74-79
OF: Pepe Mangual 500K 1972 Rookie 72-77
C: Rick Dempsey 500K FA 1976-1978
P: John Curtis 250K FA 1976-1978
P: Tom Griffin 500K FA 1976-1978
P: Mike Marshall FA 500K 1976-1978
P: Bob Myrick FA 250K 1976-1978

Total 24 players 75.50M

Draft Picks traded/recieved
recieved:
Shoeless Joes 3rd Rnd 1977
Gold Sox 1st Rnd 1977

traded away
To Thunder - Joes 3rd round 1977
to Spikes - Beavers 1977 3rd Rnd
to thunder - beavers 4th round 1978


Free Agents
Frank Taveras
Willie Crawford
Woodie Fryman
Mickey Scott
Mike Cueller
Terry Humphrey
Wilbur Hood
Ray Bare
Steve Hargan
Terry Forster
Tony Solaita
Mike Hegan
Dave Moates

HTD Rights

Rick Miller

[rmadachik]

GAMBLERS updated for 1977

3B Mike Schmidt-12 M, 1972 Franchise
RP Ray Burris-1.0M 1973 - 78 draftee
2B Manny Trillo-1.0 M, 1973 - 78 draftee
OF Mike Vail –750K, 75 - 1980 draft
OF Al Oliver-14.5, 74-78
C Barry Foote-500K, 1973 – 1978 draftee
RP Glenn Abbott-500K, 1973 – 1978 draftee
1B Andre Thornton-2.50 M, 1973 - 1978 draftee
SP Pete Redfern 500K Draft 1976-1981
IF Billy Smith – 250K 75 – 1980 draft
SP Juaquin Andujar 1M Draft 1976-1981
RP Tom Bruno 500K Draft 1976-1981
SP Reggie Cleveland 7.5, '75-'77
IF Rodney Scott-.500K, 75 - 1980 draft
OF Paul Dade- 250K 75 - 1980 draft
SS Roy Smalley-2.5M 75 - 1980 draft
OF Jim Wohlford 250K, 72 - 1977 draft
RP Dyar Miller-1.0M 75 - 1980draft
OF Paul Blair – 250K FA 1976-1977
1B Don Baylor – 5M FA 1976-1979
3B Hector Cruz – 250K FA 1976-1978
OF Von Joshua – 500K FA 1976-1977
C Milt May – 250K FA 1976-1978
UT Dave McKay – 250K FA 1976-1978
C Darrell Porter – 5M FA 1976-1979
P Dan Spillner – 250K Draft 1974-1979
P Vern Ruhle – 250K Draft 1974-1979
OF John Lowenstein – 2M HTD 1976-1978
2B Denny Doyle FA 250K 1976-1977


29 players $61.25M

Draft Picks
Received
Shoeless Joes 3rd Rnd 1977 thru Windy City
Iron 2nd Round 1977 (+4th round conditional)
Traded
3rd round 1977 to Iron




Mickey Lolich
Bobby Murcer
Jack Billingham
Bert Camapernis
Bill Laxton
Bruce Kimm HTD Rights
Alex Johnson
Boog Powell
Rusty Torrez
Carl Morton
Ray Sadecki

[jaybird_1981]

Iron Corrections:

Players Need to be Added:
Bob Bailor
Bernie Carbo
Greg Pryor (Need a Placeholder since he doesn't play this season)

Players need to be Removed:
Ray Fosse
Bill Melton
Bobby Murcer

[Erik Bedard]

Gold Sox contract expirations:

Marty Perez
Larry Herndon
Andy Messersmith
Dave Roberts
Bill Singer
Dick Bosman
Alan Foster
Danny Frisella
Andy Hassler
Pat Dobson
Pepe Frias
Jamie Quirk
Jack Heidemann
Paul Siebert
Elrod Hendricks
Steve Brye
Hector Torres

Dave Bergman is missing.

[J W]

TRADE:

The Dust Bunnies are flipping newly acquired OF Dusty Baker to the Skipjacks, along with C Mark Hill and their 4th round pick in 1979. In return the Skipjacks send starting pitcher Dock Ellis and their 2nd round pick in 1978.

[dust bunnies]

The Dust Bunnies confirm this trade. We also now wish to flip Dock Ellis. He has a $7.25M contract expiring in 1977. (FA 74-77). In 1977 he pitched 213 innings with an ERA+ of 113 and a WHIP of 1.29. We are also now removing G. Mitterwald from the trading block. We need him to have a catching presence in 1977.