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    BBF Yankees Hall of Fame - Round One

    NOTE: The Athletics First Round Election is still open and will close on Tuesday, February 1, 2011, at 1:00 p.m.

    This election will close on Saturday, February 5, 2011, at 11:00 a.m.

    PLEASE READ THE FORMAT AND RULES SECTION BEFORE VOTING. THANK YOU.

    FORMAT AND RULES

    Purpose: The purpose of this project is to create a Hall of Fame for each franchise whereby each franchise will honor those individuals whose contributions and accomplishments are most notable, significant, and enduring to that franchise's history. This project is not about simply honoring those with the best statistics with each franchise.

    Standards: Each franchise has its own unique history and context, and thus contributions and accomplishments that may stand out remarkably within one franchise's history, may not be so remarkable in another franchise's history. Standards from franchise to franchise will inherently vary, and thus there should be no impetus to create equal standards among the franchises or to aspire to the standards of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Consequently, subjectivity within the context of the franchise in question will play an inevitable role when considering an individual's contributions and accomplishments with respect to that franchise. In sum, a franchise's Hall of Fame should be unaffected by the standards and contexts of other franchises as well as the National Baseball Hall of Fame, and should be entirely a product of its own history.

    Election Format: Elections will be conducted one franchise at a time starting in chronological order with the oldest continuously and currently operational franchise. Each election will last approximately seven days.
    - Ballot Size: Voters can select up to 15 players and 5 contributors per election. Ballots that exceed the maximum limits at the close of an election will not be counted. There is no minimum ballot size.
    - Ballot Editing: To account for ongoing discussion, voters may edit their ballots as often as necessary through the end of an election.
    - Election Percentage: Any individual that is listed on at least 75% of either the player or contributor submitted ballots will be elected to that team's Hall of Fame. In instances where an individual receive votes as both a player and a contributor, that individual will be elected if listed on at least 75% of ballots in either category or if the individual's combined vote total is at least 75% of the category with the greatest number of ballots submitted.
    - Subsequent Rounds: After an election has been performed for each franchise, a second round of elections will commence, again proceeding in chronological order. A third round of elections (and perhaps beyond) may also be held depending on interest.

    Eligibility:
    - Players: Players may be considered by any currently operational franchise for which they appeared and are eligible either immediately upon officially retiring or after having not appeared at any level of professional baseball for an entire season for reasons not due to injury.
    - Contributors: Individuals that contributed in other capacities to a franchise may be considered, including managers, coaches, executives, owners, and broadcasters. Contributors that are still active may only be elected by their current employing franchise, and cannot be considered by prior employing franchises until no longer active (this does not apply to individuals who are employed by a franchise only in nominal and/or non-integral ways, such as in scouting, consulting, or public relations capacities).
    - Multiple Capacities: The totality of contributions and accomplishments with respect to a franchise are to be considered, and thus an individual can only be elected once by a franchise. For purposes of ballot size limits, an individual should be designated either a player or contributor based on what the voter perceives to be the individual's greater role with the franchise. An individual should not be listed as either a player or contributor merely to facilitate ballot space for the other category.
    - Relocations/Renaming: Franchises that have relocated and/or been renamed, may still consider and elect individuals that were with the franchise prior to the relocation/renaming.
    - Multiple Franchises: An individual may be considered and elected by multiple franchises.


    NEW YORK YANKEES
    This election will end on Saturday, February 5, 2011, at 11:00 a.m.

    Franchise History
    - Founded: 1901 (AL for entire existence)
    - Former Locations/Names: Baltimore Orioles (1901-1902), New York Highlanders (1904-1912)

    Titles
    - World Series Championships: 27 (1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2009)
    - Pennants: 40 (1921, 1922, 1923, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2009)
    - Division Titles: 14 (1976, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1981, 1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2009)
    - Wild Card Berths: 4 (1995, 1997, 2007, 2010)

    Helpful Links
    The following links are all courtesy of baseball-reference.com, baseball-almanac.com, and wikipedia.com, and may assist voters in determining an individual's impact on this franchise:
    - Franchise Almanac
    - All Batters
    - All Pitchers
    - Batting Leaders
    - Pitching Leaders
    - Most Common Positional Starters
    - Most Common Pitching Staff Alignments
    - Managers
    - Notable Owners and Executives
    - Notable Broadcasters

    Award Recipients
    - MVP Recipients (22): Alex Rodriguez (2007), Alex Rodriguez (2005), Don Mattingly (1985), Thurman Munson (1976), Elston Howard (1963), Mickey Mantle (1962), Roger Maris (1961), Roger Maris (1960), Mickey Mantle (1957), Mickey Mantle (1956), Yogi Berra (1955), Yogi Berra (1954), Yogi Berra (1951), Phil Rizzuto (1950), Joe DiMaggio (1947), Spud Chandler (1943), Joe Gordon (1942), Joe DiMaggio (1941), Joe DiMaggio (1939), Lou Gehrig (1936), Lou Gehrig (1927), Babe Ruth (1923)

    - Cy Young Recipients (5): Roger Clemens (2001), Ron Guidry (1978), Sparky Lyle (1977), Whitey Ford (1961), Bob Turley (1958)

    - RoY Recipients (8): Derek Jeter (1996), Dave Righetti (1981), Thurman Munson (1970), Stan Bahnsen (1968), Tom Tresh (1962), Tony Kubek (1957), Bob Grim (1954), Gil McDougald (1951)

    - Batting Triple Crown (2): Mickey Mantle (1956), Lou Gehrig (1934)

    - Pitching Triple Crown (2): Lefty Gomez (1937), Lefty Gomez (1934)

    Multiple All Star Selections (no adjustment for double selections for 1959-1962)
    Code:
    Rank 	Player			Selections
    1	Mickey Mantle		20
    2	Yogi Berra		18
    3	Joe DiMaggio		13
    4	Elston Howard		12
    t5	Bill Dickey		11
    t5	Derek Jeter*		11
    t5	Mariano Rivera*		11
    8	Whitey Ford		10
    t9	Bobby Richardson	8
    t9	Dave Winfield		8
    t11	Lou Gehrig		7
    t11	Lefty Gomez		7
    t11	Thurman Munson		7
    t11	Moose Skowron		7
    t15	Joe Gordon		6
    t15	Roger Maris		6
    t15	Don Mattingly		6
    t15	Gil McDougald		6
    t15	Alex Rodriguez*		6
    t15	Red Ruffing		6
    t21	Tommy Henrich		5
    t21	Reggie Jackson		5
    t21	Charlie Keller		5
    t21	Graig Nettles		5
    t21	Jorge Posada*		5
    t21	Willie Randolph		5
    t21	Allie Reynolds		5
    t21	Phil Rizzuto		5
    t21	Mel Stottlemyre		5
    t21	Bernie Williams		5
    t31	Wade Boggs		4
    t31	Spud Chandler		4
    t31	Goose Gossage		4
    t31	Ron Guidry		4
    t31	Rickey Henderson	4
    t31	Tony Kubek		4
    t31	Bobby Murcer		4
    t31	Paul O’Neill		4
    t31	Vic Raschi		4
    t31	Red Rolfe		4
    t40	Hank Bauer		3
    t40	Ben Chapman		3
    t40	Ryne Duren		3
    t40	Jason Giambi*		3
    t40	Sparky Lyle		3
    t40	Johnny Murphy		3
    t40	Joe Page		3
    t40	Joe Pepitone		3
    t40	Andy Pettitte*		3
    t40	Tom Tresh		3
    t51	Tiny Bonham		2
    t51	Hank Borowy		2
    t51	Robinson Cano*		2
    t51	Roger Clemens		2
    t51	Joe Coates		2
    t51	David Cone		2
    t51	Frankie Crosetti	2
    t51	Bucky Dent		2
    t51	Catfish Hunter		2
    t51	Tommy John		2
    t51	Jimmy Key		2
    t51	Hideki Matsui*		2
    t51	George McQuinn		2
    t51	Monte Pearson		2
    t51	Dave Righetti		2
    t51	Babe Ruth		2
    t51	Steve Sax		2
    t51	George Selkirk		2
    t51	Gary Sheffield		2
    t51	Alfonso Soriano*	2
    t51	Snuffy Stirnweiss	2
    t51	Ralph Terry		2
    t51	Bob Turley		2
    t51	Roy White		2	
    
    * Player is currently active
    Notable Managers (with at least 300 games managed with this franchise or at least one pennant win)
    Code:
    Manager			Games		Win %	WS Titles	Pennants	Div Titles	Wild Cards
    Yogi Berra		342		.565	1		1
    Bill Donovan		465		.479
    Joe Girardi*		486		.591	1		1		1		1
    Clark Griffith		807		.531
    Bucky Harris		309		.620	1		1
    Ralph Houk		1757		.539	2		3
    Dick Howser		163		.632					1
    Miller Huggins		1796		.597	3		6
    Bob Lemon		172		.576	1		2		2
    Billy Martin		941		.591	1		2		2
    Joe McCarthy		2348		.627	7		8
    Lou Piniella		417		.537
    Buck Showalter^		582		.539					1		1
    Casey Stengel		1851		.623	7		10
    Joe Torre		1942		.605	4		6		10		2
    
    * Current manager
    ^ Currently managing another team

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    This is the big one, and there are likely several very deserving players and contributors that may have to wait two or three rounds to make it. In particular, with so many people to choose from, they may cancel each other out at first.

    Players
    Yogi Berra
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Elston Howard
    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams

    If only there was room: Hank Bauer, Spud Chandler, Jack Chesbro, Earle Combs, Joe Gordon, Goose Gossage, Rickey Henderson, Tommy Henrich, Waite Hoyt, Reggie Jackson, Willie Keeler, Charlie Keller, Ed Lopat, Sparky Lyle, Roger Maris, Gil McDougald, Bobby Murcer, Johnny Murphy, Mike Mussina, Graig Nettles, Paul O'Neill, Roger Peckinpaugh, Herb Pennock, Andy Pettitte (if he retires), Willie Randolph, Vic Raschi, Allie Reynolds, Bobby Richardson, Dave Righetti, Red Rolfe, Bob Shawkey, Moose Skowron, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White, Dave Winfield,

    Contributors
    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner - If last year and that gaudy new monument is any indication, the Yankees would certainly honor Steinbrenner first and foremost
    Casey Stengel
    Joe Torre

    Had to go with the four dynastic managers, resulting in several tough cuts: Mel Allen, Red Barber, Ed Barrow, Ralph Houk, Billy Martin, Gene Michael, Jacob Rupert, George Weiss

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    Players (15)
    Yogi Berra
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Ron Guidry
    Elston Howard
    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams
    Dave Winfield

    Contributors (5)
    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel
    Joe Torre
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    Players (15)

    Yogi Berra
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Ron Guidry
    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors (5)
    Ed Barrow
    Joe McCarthy
    Jacob Ruppert
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Contributors
    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner - If last year and that gaudy new monument is any indication, the Yankees would certainly honor Steinbrenner first and foremost
    Casey Stengel
    Joe Torre

    Had to go with the four dynastic managers ...
    Are we in the business of predicting? The Steinbrenners own the Yankees; of course the ballclub would honor him first or among the first. Why should the "Yankees Hall of Fame" do so, ahead of Jake Ruppert? He built the house that Ruth built!

    Since I'm not so keen on field managers, it's easy to vote for both and/or some of the general managers.
    Clark Griffith
    Jake Ruppert
    Ed Barrow
    George Weiss
    George Steinbrenner

    This is not a ballot, yet,
    but I guarantee that the radio announcers must wait until round three.

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    Players (15)
    Babe Ruth
    Lou Gehrig
    Bill Dickey
    Lefty Gomez
    Red Ruffing
    Joe DiMaggio
    Joe Gordon
    Yogi Berra
    Whitey Ford
    Mickey Mantle
    Thurman Munson
    Graig Nettles
    Willie Randolph
    Ron Guidry
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors
    Jake Ruppert
    Ed Barrow
    George Weiss
    Casey Stengel
    George Steinbrenner
    Last edited by Paul Wendt; 01-30-2011 at 12:14 PM.

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    Players:
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    Bill Dickey
    Lefty Gomez
    Red Ruffing
    Phil Rizzuto
    Don Mattingly
    Earle Combs
    Bernie Williams
    Ron Guidry
    Roger Maris
    Contributers:
    George Steinbrenner
    Joe Torre
    Casey Stengel
    Joe McCarthy
    Mel Allen
    Chop! Chop! Chop!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Wendt View Post
    Are we in the business of predicting? The Steinbrenners own the Yankees; of course the ballclub would honor him first or among the first. Why should the "Yankees Hall of Fame" do so, ahead of Jake Ruppert? He built the house that Ruth built!

    Since I'm not so keen on field managers, it's easy to vote for both and/or some of the general managers.
    Clark Griffith
    Jake Ruppert
    Ed Barrow
    George Weiss
    George Steinbrenner

    This is not a ballot, yet,
    but I guarantee that the radio announcers must wait until round three.
    There's a practical aspect to this, in that if these Halls of Fame were real and constrcuted today, there would be some real world considerations taken into account. It's the same reason I didn't vote for Barry Bonds for the Pirates - if a Pirates Hall of Fame were being put together today in Pittsburgh, there's little to no chance Bonds would be included in the inaugural class (or likely in the foreseeable future).

    With the Yankees in the real world, the specter of Georgie looms exceedingly large. If the Yankees were to open a Hall of Fame today it is unfathomable that the organization would not include Steinbrenner immediately and likely honor him above and beyond anyone else (have you seen the monument for him in Monument Park, it easily dwarfs everything in there).

    In any event, just based on the ballots that have come in already, it's likely that some very deserving individuals are going to miss election this time and will have to wait for the clutter to clear up.

    How come you only voted for four contributors?

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    PLAYERS:
    Babe Ruth
    Lou Gehrig
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Yogi Berra
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Bernie Williams
    Derek Jeter
    Lefty Gomez
    Whitey Ford
    Ron Guidry
    Mariano Rivera
    Andy Pettitte

    CONTRIBUTORS:
    Mel Allen
    Phil Rizzuto
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel

    I had to get Rizzuto in there somehow and how do you keep Mel Allen out?
    That means no Torre, Huggins, Barrow, Ruppert or Weiss. Bummer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WillieMaysHayes View Post
    PLAYERS:
    Babe Ruth
    Lou Gehrig
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Yogi Berra
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Bernie Williams
    Derek Jeter
    Lefty Gomez
    Whitey Ford
    Ron Guidry
    Mariano Rivera
    Andy Pettitte
    Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte are all active and thus not yet eligible (though if Pettitte officially retires, then he will become immediately eligible). Please replace when you get a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    Jeter, Rivera, and Pettitte are all active and thus not yet eligible (though if Pettitte officially retires, then he will become immediately eligible). Please replace when you get a chance.
    I think I've lost my mind
    I shall amend.

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    PLAYERS:
    Babe Ruth
    Lou Gehrig
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Phi Rizzuto
    Yogo Berra
    Mickey Mantle
    Thurman Munson
    Graig Nettles
    Don Mattingly
    Bernie Williams
    Lefty Gomez
    Red Ruffing
    Whity Ford
    Ron Guidry

    CONTRIBUTORS:
    Joe McCarthy
    Casey Stengel
    Ed Barrow
    George Steinbrenner
    Mel Allen

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    Lefty Gomez
    Elston Howard
    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors
    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarty
    Jake Ruppert
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel

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    Yogi Berra
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    Tony Lazzeri
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Graig Nettles
    Phil Rizzuto
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams
    Dave Winfield

    Contributors
    Jacob Ruppert
    Miller Huggins
    George Steinbrenner
    Joe McCarthy
    Casey Stengel
    Lets Go Yankees, Valley Cats, Dutchmen, UT Spartans and ECU Pirates.

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    Players:
    Yogi Berra
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Elston Howard
    Reggie Jackson
    Don Larsen
    Mickey Mantle
    Roger Maris
    Bobby Richardson
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Dave Winfield

    Contributors:
    Mel Allen
    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel

  17. #17
    Another franchise with 7 or 8 no brainers, then a real scramble. Interesting that I've seen no mention at all of guys like Gordon, Keller, Reynolds, Raschi, Henrich.

  18. #18
    I believe Gordon did get one vote up above. His tenure with the team was relatively brief.

    Players:
    Yogi Berra
    Hal Chase
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Ron Guidry
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors:
    Ed Barrow
    Joe McCarthy
    Phil Rizzuto
    Casey Stengel
    Joe Torre

  19. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by BigRon View Post
    Another franchise with 7 or 8 no brainers, then a real scramble. Interesting that I've seen no mention at all of guys like Gordon, Keller, Reynolds, Raschi, Henrich.
    I have a feeling that at least one voter (I won't say who) will vote for Keller. Gordon's tough because on one hand he's talent-wise, likely the best 2Bman the Yankees have had and he missed 3 prime seasons to service (and came back extremely rusty), but on the other hand, with competition so tight here, Gordon's shorter tenure with the team makes it easy to pass on him this time around. For me though, Gordon was probably the 16th or 17th man, a real tough cut.

    I don't think Reynolds, Raschi, and Henirch have quite enough at this point.

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    Yankees… well now…


    Whitey Ford
    Lefty Gomez
    Red Ruffing
    Yogi Berra
    Thurman Munson
    Bill Dickey
    Lou Gehrig
    Don Mattingly
    Joe Gordon
    Tony Lazzeri
    Graig Nettles
    Mickey Mantle
    Joe DiMaggio
    Bernie Williams
    Babe Ruth

    ---------

    Casey Stengel
    Joe McCarthy
    Bob Sheppard
    George Steinbrenner
    Mel Allen
    Your Second Base Coach
    That number "WAR" does NOT measure wins above replacement. I am not sure what it measures, but it sure isn't the value between a player and his back-up. The final number certainly does not measure what the name suggests.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5hCIvMule0

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    Players
    Yogi Berra
    Earle Combs
    Bill Dickey
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Charlie Keller
    Mickey Mantle
    Thurman Munson
    Willie Randolph
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth
    Roy White
    Bernie Williams

    Contributors
    Barrow
    Huggins
    McCarthy
    Stengel
    Torre

    Players not yet eligible
    Derek Jeter
    Jorge Posada
    Alex Rodriguez
    Mariano Rivera
    Andy Pettitte
    Robinson Cano
    Jason Giambi


    Player queue (in approximate order)
    Tony Lazzeri
    Ron Guidry
    Joe Gordon
    Don Mattingly
    Graig Nettles
    Phil Rizzuto
    Rickey Henderson
    Gil McDougald
    Bob Shawkey
    Elston Howard
    Mel Stottlemyre
    Tommy Henrich
    Roger Maris
    Bobby Murcer
    Herb Pennock
    Mike Mussina
    Red Rolfe
    Ben Chapman
    Roger Peckinpaugh
    Waite Hoyt
    Jack Chesbro
    Dave Winfield
    Hank Bauer
    Paul O'Neill
    Tom Tresh
    Spud Chandler
    Allie Reynolds
    Ray Caldwell
    George Selkirk
    Russ Ford
    Roger Clemens
    Wally Pipp
    Bill Skowron
    Eddie Lopat
    Dave Righetti
    Rich Gossage

    contributor queue
    Weiss
    Ruppert
    Mel Allen
    Steinbrenner
    Houk
    Billy Martin
    Brian Cashman (eligible?)
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

  22. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleX View Post
    I have a feeling that at least one voter (I won't say who) will vote for Keller. Gordon's tough because on one hand he's talent-wise, likely the best 2Bman the Yankees have had and he missed 3 prime seasons to service (and came back extremely rusty), but on the other hand, with competition so tight here, Gordon's shorter tenure with the team makes it easy to pass on him this time around. For me though, Gordon was probably the 16th or 17th man, a real tough cut.
    As someone may consider George Steinbrenner a no-brainer because the New York Yankees, Inc., would select him, someone else may consider Joe Gordon or Charlie Keller a no-brainer because of his leading role on champion teams, when the dynasty probably attained its peak.

    > "How come you only voted for four contributors?"

    I was on coffee break to think it over. I haven't done that but I'll now insert George Weiss. If for some reason I spend part of this week thinking productively about Yankees Century, maybe I'll revise it. (I would like to get the name of founder Clark Griffith into circulation. And why not, with votes going to Mel Allen.)

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    Players:

    Yogi Berra
    Joe DiMaggio
    Whitey Ford
    Lou Gehrig
    Lefty Gomez
    Goose Gossage
    Joe Gordon
    Ron Guidry
    Bill Dickey
    Mickey Mantle
    Don Mattingly
    Thurman Munson
    Phil Rizzuto
    Red Ruffing
    Babe Ruth

    Contributors:

    Miller Huggins
    Joe McCarthy
    George Steinbrenner
    Casey Stengel
    Joe Torre

  24. #24
    It seems that George Steinbrenner is getting lots of support. I seriously don't know how he is more deserved than Jacob Ruppert.

  25. #25
    Not one vote for Billy Martin as yet?

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