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    BBF VC Progressive HoF Contributors Election: 2015

    Below is our master ballot of contributors. Please feel free to suggest new candidates to consider as I'm only caretaker of this end of the project and could have easily overlooked someone:

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    Contributors Ballot:
    
    Hugh Alexander
    Felipe Alou
    Nick Altrock
    Cap Anson
    Emmett Ashford
    Dusty Baker
    Buzzie Bavasi
    Don Baylor
    Sy Berger
    Jack Brickhouse
    Joe Brinkman
    Charles Byrne
    Jack Buck
    Ken Burns
    Harry Caray
    O.P. Caylor
    Octavius Catto
    Frank Chance
    Happy Chandler
    Nestor Chylak
    Fred Clarke
    Bobby Cox
    Candy Cummings
    Jacques Doucet
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Billy Evans
    John B. Foster
    Bud Fowler
    Curt Flood
    Ford Frick
    Bruce Froemming
    Phil Garner
    Cito Gaston
    Pat Gillick
    Curt Gowdy
    Gus Greenlee
    Clark Griffith
    Howie Haak
    Mike Hargrove
    Bucky Harris
    Ernie Harwell
    Roland Hemond
    Whitey Herzog
    Gil Hodges
    Ralph Houk
    Cal Hubbard
    Fred Hutchinson
    Frank Jobe
    Davey Johnson
    Tony La Russa
    Ring Lardner
    Andy Leonard
    Al Lopez
    Tony Lucadello
    Tom Kelly
    Lee MacPhail
    Effa Manley
    Billy Martin
    Gene Mauch
    Leo Mazzone
    Tommy McCarthy
    Bill McKechnie
    Denny McKnight
    John McSherry
    Tim Murnane
    Danny Murtagh
    Jim Mutrie
    Shigeo Nagashima
    David Neft
    Dan Okrent
    Frank Osborn
    Pete Palmer
    Lou Piniella
    Harry Clay Pulliam
    Jerry Reinsdorf
    Henry Grantland Rice
    Larry Ritter
    Jackie Robinson
    Wilbert Robinson
    Jacob Ruppert
    Red Schoendienst
    Bud Selig
    Bob Sheppard
    Red Smith
    Paul Snyder
    Alfred H. Spink
    George Steinbrenner
    Horace Stoneham
    Joe Sugden
    C.I. Taylor
    Joe Torre
    Ted Turner
    Bob Uecker
    Chris Von der Ahe
    Bob Watson
    Charles Weeghman
    Lee Weyer
    Sol White
    Phillip Wrigley
    Tom Yawkey
    Dick Young
    
    *I tried to provide links for these contributors so 
    participants could get a better sense of who they were.  
    Some links just have a mention of the person and some 
    clue as to their contribution.  If someone knows of a more 
    informative link for any of these players, please speak up 
    and I will edit this list to add that information.

    The following participants ballots will be counted though anyone is free to post a ballot, nominate a player or add to the discussion whether or not they are a member of the committee:

    BigRon
    Jalbright
    Fielding Marshall
    Ace Venom
    dgarza
    Paul Wendt
    jjpm74
    cowtipper
    PVNick
    SavoyBG
    Brad Harris
    Domenic

    Note: I will also be willing to consider ballots from non-committee members in order to make a full 12 votes.

    Since there are no voting limit restrictions for the Players VC, you can vote for as many contributors as you wish. If a blank ballot is cast here, there should be a justification for it.

    Voting will commence immediately and conclude on Monday, March 14 at 12:00 PM EST. Any contributor appearing on a minimum of 9 ballots (or 75% of the ballots submitted if all 12 members do not vote) is elected. No tallying will be done until time has expired and I ask that participants please refrain from posting comments about who the front runners are. Participants are encouraged to post ballots early and may edit as many times as they wish up to the voting deadline. They do not need to contact me if they make a change.

    Newly Eligible
    Hugh Alexander
    Nick Altrock
    Dusty Baker
    Don Baylor
    Joe Brinkman
    Ken Burns
    Charles Byrne
    Octavius Catto
    Bruce Froemming
    Phil Garner
    Mike Hargrove
    Andy Leonard
    Tony Lucadello
    Tom Kelly
    Leo Mazzone
    Denny McKnight
    John McSherry
    Dan Okrent
    Paul Snyder
    Joe Sugden
    Ted Turner

    HALL OF FAME CONTRIBUTORS

    Members of the Progressive HOF elected as Contributors:

    1925: Doc Adams, Alex Cartwright, Henry Chadwick, Harry Wright, William Hulbert, Charlie Comiskey, Jim Creighton
    1930: Rube Foster, Connie Mack, AG Spalding
    1936: Ned Hanlon, Ban Johnson, John McGraw, Frank Selee
    1941: Miller Huggins, Bill Klem, Francis Richter Ed Barrow
    1946: Al Reach, Branch Rickey
    1951: Kenesaw Landis, Joe McCarthy
    1956: Tom Connolly
    1961:
    1966: Ed Bolden, J. G. Taylor Spink, Casey Stengel
    1971: Charles Conlon, Billy Southworth, George Weiss
    1976: Red Barber, Larry MacPhail, J. L Wilkinson
    1981: Mel Allen, Jocko Conlan, Lefty O'Doul, Cumberland Posey, Bill Veeck
    1986: John Ward
    1991: Al Barlick, Leo Durocher, Walter O'Malley
    1996: Jack Dunn, Bob Ferguson, Tetsuharu Kawakami, Marvin Miller, Matsutaro Shoriki
    2001: Walt Alston, Sparky Anderson, Vin Scully, Earl Weaver
    2006: Tommy Lasorda, Buck O'Neill, Dick Williams
    2011: Bob Davids, Doug Harvey, Bill James, Shigeru Mizuhara, Kazuto Tsuroaka

    Previous VC Contributors Threads:

    1920
    1925
    1930
    1936
    1941
    1946
    1951
    1956
    1961
    1966
    1971
    1976
    1981
    1986
    1991
    1996
    2001
    2006
    2011

    Note: Additional contributors and pioneers can be added if a participant or outsider suggests them to the master ballot. The person suggesting a contributor does not need to be a participant in the project but does need to give a brief explanation at to who the contributor is and why (s)he is worthy of discussion. Any person who is who has contributed to the game of baseball is eligible. The contributor's ballot is not limited to contributions to MLB.
    Last edited by Ace Venom; 03-07-2011 at 07:01 AM.
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    Cox
    Gillick
    Harris
    Herzog
    LaRussa
    Lopez
    Martin
    McKechnie
    Okrent
    Ruppert
    Steinbrenner
    C. I. Taylor
    Sol White
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    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.

    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.

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    Ballot:

    Buzzy Bavasi
    O.P. Caylor
    Bobby Cox
    Candy Cummings
    Gus Greenlee
    Whitey Herzog
    Gil Hodges
    Cal Hubbard
    Tony La Russa
    Tommy Lasorda
    Al Lopez
    Billy Martin
    Lee MacPhail
    Bill McKechnie
    Tim Murnane
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Buck O'Neill
    Lou Pinella
    George Steinbrenner
    C.I. Taylor
    Ted Turner
    Joe Torre

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    This is a WIP ballot

    Jack Brickhouse
    Harry Caray
    Octavius Catto
    Happy Chanlder
    Bobby Cox
    Bud Fowler
    Curt Flood
    Ford Frick
    Pat Gillick
    Clark Griffith
    Ernie Harwell
    Whitey Herzog
    Frank Jobe
    Tony La Russa
    Tim Murnane
    Harry Clay Pulliam
    Jerry Reinsdorf
    Henry Grantland Rice
    Jacob Ruppert
    Bud Selig
    Red Smith
    C. I. Taylor
    Joe Torre
    Ted Turner
    Bob Uecker
    Sol White
    Philip Wrigley

    Anyone want to try to sell the candidacies of Caylor and Greenlee to me?
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    Buzzie Bavasi
    Bobby Cox
    Pat Gillick
    Whitey Herzog
    Cal Hubbard
    Frank Jobe
    Tony La Russa
    Al Lopez
    Billy Martin
    Tommy McCarthy
    Dan Okrent
    Jacob Ruppert
    Bob Sheppard
    George Steinbrenner
    C.I. Taylor
    Joe Torre

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    Emmett Ashford
    Jack Brickhouse
    Jack Buck
    O.P. Caylor
    Nestor Chylak
    Bobby Cox
    Candy Cummings
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Billy Evans
    John B. Foster
    Bud Fowler
    Curt Flood
    Clark Griffith
    Ernie Harwell
    Gil Hodges
    Cal Hubbard
    Fred Hutchinson
    Frank Jobe
    Andy Leonard
    Al Lopez
    Effa Manley
    Tommy McCarthy
    Bill McKechnie
    Tim Murnane
    Jim Mutrie
    Shigeo Nagashima
    Jackie Robinson
    Jacob Ruppert
    Red Smith
    Alfred H. Spink
    C.I. Taylor
    Ted Turner
    Chris Von der Ahe

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    Jack Buck
    Harry Caray
    Nestor Chylak
    Fred Clarke
    Bobby Cox
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Curt Flood
    Clark Griffith
    Ernie Harwell
    Ring Lardner
    Tommy McCarthy
    Wilbert Robinson
    Jose Canseco - WRITE-IN
    Red Smith
    George Steinbrenner
    Joe Torre
    Philip Wrigley
    Last edited by SavoyBG; 03-11-2011 at 01:02 PM.

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    in progress


    * Bancroft Frank
    Bavasi Buzzie
    Caylor O.P.
    Cox Bobby
    Cummings C
    FOWLER BUD
    Gillick Pat
    Griffith Clark
    LaRussa Tony
    Lopez Al

    McKechnie Bill
    Murnane Tim
    Neft David
    Osborn Frank
    Palmer Pete
    Ritter Larry
    Ruppert Jake
    * Shibe Ben
    Spink Al
    TAYLOR CI
    Torre Joe
    WHITE SOL

    * write in

    other strong candidates (3 of 9 votes, 2011)
    managers: Freddie Clarke, Bucky Harris, Billy Martin, Whitey Herzog, Davey Johnson, Louie Piniella
    owners: Barney Dreyfuss, Phil Wrigley, George Steinbrenner
    officials: Happy Chandler, Ford Frick
    umpires: Cal Hubbard, Nestor Chylak
    writers: Grantland Rice, Red Smith
    announcers: Ernie Harwell, Jack Brickhouse, Harry Caray, Jack Buck
    other: Tommy McCarthy, Sy Berger, Curt Flood, Frank Jobe
    Last edited by Paul Wendt; 03-11-2011 at 07:26 AM.

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    Sy Berger
    Ken Burns
    O. P. Caylor
    Happy Chandler
    Nestor Chylak
    Candy Cummings
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Billy Evans
    Ford Frick
    Cito Gaston
    Howie Haak
    Roland Hemond
    Tommy McCarthy
    Tim Murnane
    Frank Osborn
    Harry Clay Pulliam
    Henry Grantland Rice
    Jacob Ruppert
    Alfred H. Spink
    George Steinbrenner
    Bob Uecker
    Bob Watson
    Charles Weeghman
    Sol White

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowtipper View Post
    George Steinbrenner
    Why Steinbrenner and not Turner? Turner practically laid the template for other teams, showing them what to do to get more media money.
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Venom View Post
    Why Steinbrenner and not Turner? Turner practically laid the template for other teams, showing them what to do to get more media money.
    Did he ever give one of his players a nickname (Mr. May for Winfield).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SavoyBG View Post
    Did he ever give one of his players a nickname (Mr. May for Winfield).
    And Ric Flair's nickname is Nature Boy. I'm pretty sure you're being facetious.
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Venom View Post
    Why Steinbrenner and not Turner? Turner practically laid the template for other teams, showing them what to do to get more media money.
    It could be because I'm a Mets fan that I have an inherent bias against him, however I do not view Ted Turner as having as great an impact upon the game as George Steinbrenner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowtipper View Post
    It could be because I'm a Mets fan that I have an inherent bias against him, however I do not view Ted Turner as having as great an impact upon the game as George Steinbrenner.
    Ted was never banned from the game.
    RIP Ronnie James Dio (July 10, 1942 - May 16, 2010).

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    Well, considering I think Pete Rose, Joe Jackson and Eddie Cicotte (okay, well maybe not entirely Cicotte) should be in the Hall of Fame, banishments don't matter too much to me.

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    Cap Anson
    Frank C. Bancroft
    Buzzie Bavasi
    Sy Berger
    O.P. Caylor
    Fred Clarke
    Bobby Cox
    Harry Dalton
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Jack Dunn
    John B. Foster
    Pat Gillick
    Gus Greenlee
    Bucky Harris
    Whitey Herzog
    Tony La Russa
    Al Lopez
    Billy Martin
    Bill McKechnie
    Tim Murnane
    Danny Murtagh
    Pete Palmer
    Lou Piniella
    Jacob Ruppert
    Ben Shibe
    Alfred H. Spink
    George Steinbrenner
    C.I. Taylor
    Ty Tyson
    Joe Torre
    Sol White
    "When you have no basis for an argument, abuse the plaintiff." -- Cicero

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cowtipper View Post
    It could be because I'm a Mets fan that I have an inherent bias against him, however I do not view Ted Turner as having as great an impact upon the game as George Steinbrenner.
    Ted never "traded" Willie McGee for Bob Sykes, Fred McGriff for Dale Murray (and dave Collins to make the Yanks a speed team), fired Yogi Berra 8games into the season, agitated to get rid of a young Ron Guidry and Bernie Williams, and on and on and on ... for the life of me I can never understand the lionization of this person, OK he made money but so did Madoff.

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    I'm going to leave this election open for a few more days. I'm hoping more people come to vote.

    EDIT: I'm going to consider this election closed on Thursday, March 17 at 12:00 PM EST.
    Last edited by Ace Venom; 03-15-2011 at 09:44 AM.
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    Bobby Cox
    Pat Gillick
    Whitey Herzog
    Tony LaRussa
    George Steinbrenner
    Joe Torre

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    Felipe Alou
    Cap Anson
    Buzzie Bavasi
    Sy Berger
    Jack Brickhouse
    Joe Brinkman
    Jack Buck
    Ken Burns
    Harry Caray
    Octavius Catto
    O.P. Caylor
    Frank Chance
    Happy Chandler
    Nestor Chylak
    Fred Clarke
    Bobby Cox
    Candy Cummings
    Jacques Doucet
    Barney Dreyfuss
    Billy Evans
    Bud Fowler
    Ford Frick
    Pat Gillick
    Curt Gowdy
    Clark Griffith
    Howie Haak
    Halsey Hall (nomination)
    Ernie Harwell
    Roland Hemond
    Whitey Herzog
    Ralph Houk
    Cal Hubbard
    Fred Hutchinson
    Frank Jobe
    Davey Johnson
    Tony LaRussa
    Al Lopez
    Tony Lucadello
    Lee MacPhail
    Billy Martin
    Leo Mazzone
    Gene Mauch
    Tommy McCarthy
    Bill McKechnie
    Tim Murnane
    Danny Murtaugh
    Jim Mutrie
    Shigeo Nagashima
    David Neft
    Daniel Okrent
    Frank Osborn
    Pete Palmer
    Lou Piniella
    Jerry Reinsdorf
    Henry Grantland Rice
    Lawrence Ritter
    Jackie Robinson
    Wilbert Robinson
    Jacob Ruppert
    Bob Sheppard
    Bud Selig
    Paul Snyder
    Alfred H. Spink
    Horace Stoneham
    C.I. Taylor
    Joe Torre
    Ted Turner
    Bob Uecker
    Chris Von der Ahe
    Lee Weyer
    Sol White
    Phillip Wrigley
    Tom Yawkey
    Dick Young
    RIP Dave Niehaus
    RIP Gary Moore

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    I'll go ahead and accept the ballots from Ducati and Fielding Marshall and call this election closed. We only elected Bobby Cox. I'll post the full results later.

    2015 Contributors VC Final Results (11 Votes Cast, 9 Required for Election)
    1) Bobby Cox: 9 Votes - Elected
    t2) Tony La Russa: 8 Votes
    t2) Jacob Ruppert: 8 Votes
    t2) C.I. Taylor: 8 Votes
    t2) Joe Torre: 8 Votes
    t6) Pat Gillick: 7 Votes
    t6) Whitey Herzog: 7 Votes
    t6) Al Lopez: 7 Votes
    t6) Tim Murnane: 7 Votes
    t6) George Steinbrenner: 7 Votes
    t11) O.P. Caylor: 6 Votes
    t11) Bill McKechnie: 6 Votes
    t11) Sol White: 6 Votes
    t14) Buzzie Bavasi: 5 Votes
    t14) Candy Cummings: 5 Votes
    t14) Barney Dreyfuss: 5 Votes
    t14) Clark Griffith: 5 Votes
    t14) Billy Martin: 5 Votes
    t14) Tommy McCarthy: 5 Votes
    t14) Alfred H. Spink: 5 Votes
    t21) Nestor Chylak: 4 Votes
    t21) Bud Fowler: 4 Votes
    t21) Ernie Harwell: 4 Votes
    t21) Cal Hubbard: 4 Votes
    t21) Frank Jobe: 4 Votes
    t21) Ted Turner: 4 Votes
    t27) Sy Berger: 3 Votes
    t27) Jack Brickhouse: 3 Votes
    t27) Jack Buck: 3 Votes
    t27) Harry Caray: 3 Votes
    t27) Happy Chandler: 3 Votes
    t27) Fred Clarke: 3 Votes
    t27) Billy Evans: 3 Votes
    t27) Curt Flood: 3 Votes
    t27) Ford Frick: 3 Votes
    t27) Shigeo Nagashima: 3 Votes
    t27) Dan Okrent: 3 Votes
    t27) Frank Osborn: 3 Votes
    t27) Pete Palmer: 3 Votes
    t27) Lou Piniella: 3 Votes
    t27) Henry Grantland Rice: 3 Votes
    t27) Bob Uecker: 3 Votes
    t27) Philip Wrigley: 3 Votes
    t45) Cap Anson: 2 Votes
    t45) Frank Bancroft (write-in): 2 Votes
    t45) Ken Burns: 2 Votes
    t45) John B. Foster: 2 Votes
    t45) Gus Greenlee: 2 Votes
    t45) Howie Haak: 2 Votes
    t45) Bucky Harris: 2 Votes
    t45) Roland Hemond: 2 Votes
    t45) Gil Hodges: 2 Votes
    t45) Fred Hutchinson: 2 Votes
    t45) Lee MacPhail: 2 Votes
    t45) Jim Mutrie: 2 Votes
    t45) Harry Clay Pulliam: 2 Votes
    t45) Larry Ritter: 2 Votes
    t45) Jackie Robinson: 2 Votes
    t45) Wilbert Robinson: 2 Votes
    t45) Bud Selig: 2 Votes
    t45) Bob Sheppard: 2 Votes
    t45) Ben Shibe (write-in): 2 Votes
    t45) Chris Von der Ahe: 2 Votes
    t65) Felipe Alou: 1 Vote
    t65) Emmett Ashford: 1 Vote
    t65) Jose Cancesco (write-in): 1 Vote
    t65) Frank Chance: 1 Vote
    t65) Jacques Doucet: 1 Vote
    t65) Harry Dalton (write-in): 1 Vote
    t65) Jack Dunn (write-in): 1 Vote
    t65) Cito Gaston: 1 Vote
    t65) Halsey Hall (write-in): 1 Vote
    t65) Davey Johnson: 1 Vote
    t65) Andy Leonard: 1 Vote
    t65) Effa Manley: 1 Vote
    t65) Gene Mauch: 1 Vote
    t65) Leo Mazzone: 1 Vote
    t65) Bob Watson: 1 Vote
    t65) Charles Weeghman: 1 Vote
    t65) Tom Yawkey: 1 Vote
    t65) Dick Young: 1 Vote

    The player's VC election will be posted on Monday, March 28.
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