[QUOTE=Wade8813;1867620]BigRon's lineup is potent, but it's not as strong compared to mine as he'd have you believe.
Leadoff Hitter: Cobb beats Wagner by a large margin in basically every offensive category. Positional adjustment doesn't matter, because both teams obviously have one player at each position. Cobb had significantly better BA, OB, and SLG - Cobb is ahead by about 40 points in each category, which is huge for a single season and ridiculous for a career.QUOTE]
To clarify- I never said or implied that Wagner was Cobb's equal as a hitter. What I did say was that his power was as good as Cobb's- and it was. Cobb's .045 advantage in SA is driven almost completely by his BA advantage. SA isn't the correct indicator of power- isolated power (ISO) is. Cobb's career ISO is .092- Wagner's is .080. But, because Wagner played in an even more power-depressed time/league than Cobb, his RELATIVE ISO is higher than Cobb's- 174% of league average compared to 159%. Both guys had excellent power for their time, but Wagner's was at least as good as Cobb's- maybe better.
I agree that Cobb was a better hitter than Wagner, but the margin is pretty modest.
Leadoff Hitter: Cobb beats Wagner by a large margin in basically every offensive category. Positional adjustment doesn't matter, because both teams obviously have one player at each position. Cobb had significantly better BA, OB, and SLG - Cobb is ahead by about 40 points in each category, which is huge for a single season and ridiculous for a career.QUOTE]
To clarify- I never said or implied that Wagner was Cobb's equal as a hitter. What I did say was that his power was as good as Cobb's- and it was. Cobb's .045 advantage in SA is driven almost completely by his BA advantage. SA isn't the correct indicator of power- isolated power (ISO) is. Cobb's career ISO is .092- Wagner's is .080. But, because Wagner played in an even more power-depressed time/league than Cobb, his RELATIVE ISO is higher than Cobb's- 174% of league average compared to 159%. Both guys had excellent power for their time, but Wagner's was at least as good as Cobb's- maybe better.
I agree that Cobb was a better hitter than Wagner, but the margin is pretty modest.
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