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    2011 Red Sox Spring Training Talk

    I'm posting this a little late, but there's still some preseason to discuss - games, prospects, roster moves. Have at it, folks!

    (I must also apologize for not being around here; family stuff filled my waking moments all winter. Things are getting better, so I hope to be on the boards more frequently.)
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    good to hear from you...we have been using the off season thread, but can start posting here. Thanks Annie

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    Paplebon alert...things getting interesting with him this spring. Shaky again today

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    at this point in spring training, you should start to see some better pitching performances than we have. Hopefully Beckett improves on his two bad back to back games heading into the season.

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    Didn't see the game, but heard that Matsuzaka did pretty well yesterday, but the relievers gave away the game.

    Re: Papelbon; I am wondering if Jenks was brought on board because Papelbon has been far from a sure thing these past couple of years. Jenks is slotted as a setup man now, but if Papelbon proves unreliable in the early going, how soon will they switch spots?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Boxer View Post
    good to hear from you...we have been using the off season thread, but can start posting here. Thanks Annie
    You're welcome, BB. And thank you, as well. It's good to be back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VTSoxFan View Post
    Re: Papelbon; I am wondering if Jenks was brought on board because Papelbon has been far from a sure thing these past couple of years. Jenks is slotted as a setup man now, but if Papelbon proves unreliable in the early going, how soon will they switch spots?
    I think Jenks was brought in to setup...and be in the mix for 2012 as a closer option. If Papelbon falls flat on his face this year...we may see Jenks in that role at some point. That'll be one of those distractions/media/fan things...as soon as Papelbon has a bad inning, everyone will be yelling for Jenks. I think that once the games mean something, Papelbon will pitch better and hopefully that talk will quiet down. Guys like Papelbon and Beckett pitch on adrenaline a lot, so I think their weak ST's aren't that big a deal (he said, hopefully).

    I think Papelbon will be solid this year...heck, he was solid last year, Sox fans are just spoiled...and he'll go off and get his money, and the Sox will get a draft pick (assuming the draft pick compensation rules don't change).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D. View Post
    That'll be one of those distractions/media/fan things...as soon as Papelbon has a bad inning, everyone will be yelling for Jenks.
    Not everyone. I'll be yelling for Bard ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike D. View Post
    I think that once the games mean something, Papelbon will pitch better and hopefully that talk will quiet down. Guys like Papelbon and Beckett pitch on adrenaline a lot, so I think their weak ST's aren't that big a deal (he said, hopefully).
    As you Mike I'm of the opinion that one shouldn't read much into spring training stats (for several reasons). But what do you guys think about Beckett? If reports are correct, his fastball velo is around 90/91. Maybe that's normal for him in ST, I don't know, but he didn't look too good so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therwil Flyer View Post
    Not everyone. I'll be yelling for Bard ;-)



    As you Mike I'm of the opinion that one shouldn't read much into spring training stats (for several reasons). But what do you guys think about Beckett? If reports are correct, his fastball velo is around 90/91. Maybe that's normal for him in ST, I don't know, but he didn't look too good so far.
    I saw Papelbon pitch on Monday (March 21) vs Tampa's A level team and was having a lot command issues, gave a base hit and two bases on balls in 1 1/3 Ip (was supposed to pitch 2 IPs) but bacause the number of pitches that he threw was taking out was behind the count in all of the hitters he faced.

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    it has not been a real great spring for our pitching staff minus Dice-K. But, it's spring and i will start worrying when they are still pitching like this in June.

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    Looks like the bullpen competition is over (for now).

    Albers and Reyes get the last two bullpen spots, Okajima and Aceves to the minors.

    I imagine if Oki and Aceves pitch well, they'll see time in the majors at some point this season. It looks like Reyes and Albers get the first shot mostly because they're out of options and would have been lost if they didn't make the team. Makes sense to me...keep as many arms in the system as you can, and figure those last two spots will shift until you find someone who proves they can hold them.
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    can someone start a 2011 season thread?

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