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  1. #61
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    Also, I was wondering if anyone has heard from Bill, the Blues owner. I know he had computer problems at the start of this season, but if he's still AWOL, someone needs to take the club over. In fact, I'd volunteer for the job if Bill doesn't surface.
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
    - Sammy Sosa

    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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    --I have exchanged a couple e-mail with him. He said he would be back up to speed before the first deadline.

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    Ok, as best as I can determine, here is the Bues roster at the moment:

    PITCHERS
    Dennis Martinez $3,000,000 1981 76 Rookie
    Paul Splittorff $4,500,000 1978 Free Agent
    Dennis Lamp $2,000,000 1982 77 Rookie
    Joe Niekro $5,500,000 1978 Free Agent
    Bob Owchinko $250,000 1981 76 Rookie
    Dale Murray $1,000,000 1979 74 Rookie
    Gene Garber $8,000,000 1978 Free Agent
    Doug Bair $500,000 1981 76 Rookie
    Willie Hernandez $1,000,000 1982 77 Rookie
    Buddy Schultz $750,000 1980 75 Rookie
    Aurilio Lopez $500,000 1979 74 Rookie
    Tom Hausman $500,000 1980 75 Rookie

    HITTERS
    Chris Chambliss $3,500,000 1979 Free Agent
    Joel Youngblood $1,000,000 1981 76 Rookie
    Robin Yount $12,000,000 N/A 74 Rookie - FP
    Terry Whitfield $250,000 1979 74 Rookie
    Larry Hisle $8,000,000 1978 Free Agent
    Reggie Smith $13,000,000 1978 Free Agent
    Jim Norris $500,000 1980 1977 Rookie

    Gary Alexander $500,000 1980 75 Rookie
    John Wockenfuss $500,000 1979 74 Rookie
    Clint Hurdle $250,000 1982 1977 Rookie
    Dick Davis $250,000 1982 1977 Rookie
    Champ Summers $250,000 1979 74 Rookie




    EXPIRED CONTRACTS
    Rudy May
    Joe Coleman
    Pedro Borbon
    Ted Sizemore
    Kurt Bevacqua
    Jerry Terrell
    Lew Piniella
    Al Bumbry
    George Scott

    CUTS
    Fernando Arroyo
    Jim Colborn


    That leaves the Blues with 24 players and 2 HTC candidates. All Blues players are available for trade. Reasonable offers accepted.

    HTC's
    Bob Boone - 2 years at $4.0 Mil
    Buddy Bell - 7 years at $9.5 mil

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    Welcome back Bill. Max contract length is 5 years though. I'll assume that for Bell unless you post otherwise.

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    --Mac has decided to take a leave of absence from the CKL. Jason (Jaybird of the Iron) will be overseeing the Hard Cider in Mac's absence. Hope you are back soon Mac. The CKL wouldn't be the same without having you to compete with - even if I have come up short most of the time .
    Last edited by leecemark; 04-29-2011 at 02:24 PM.

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    Ditto; hope you're back soon Mac. It's sad to read. Glad that the Hard Cider name & colors stay put.

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    I agree hurry back Mac! Here are their offseason moves:

    25-man Roster
    C: Ted Simmons # 18.25M FA 74-78
    1B: Keith Hernandez* 2.5M 74 #6 traded to DB
    1B: Willie Stargell 6M FA 76-79
    1B-OF: Tom Paciorek 500K FA 77-79
    2B-3B: Rich Dauer 1M 76 #23
    2B: Rob Wilfong* 250K 77 4th round
    SS: Chris Speier 2.0M FA 77-78
    OF: Richie Zisk 7M FA77-80
    OF: Bombo Rivera 250K 75 4th round
    OF: Omar Moreno* 750K 75 #27
    DH: Rico Carty 5.75M FA 77-78
    DH-OF: Oscar Gamble 8M FA75-79 traded to DB
    P: Mike Torrez 2M FA 77-79
    P: Ken Kravec 1M 75 #22
    P: Ron Reed 7M FA 76-78
    RP: Dave LaRoche* 3M FA 76-78
    RP: Jim Willoughby 1.25M FA77-78
    RP: Mark Littell 750K 73 2nd round
    Minors:
    C: Dale Murphy 3M 76 #1
    SS: Rafael Landestoy# 250K 77 5th round
    OF: Jerry Mumphrey# 500K 74 3R
    OF: Al Woods 250K 77 4th round
    SP: Mario Soto 2M 77 #12
    SP: Nino Espinosa 500K 74 3rd round
    SP: Floyd Bannister* 1.5M 77 #14
    P: Tom Underwood* 500K, '74 3R
    RP: Joey McLaughlin 500K 77 3rd round
    25 players/65.5M

    FA
    1B: Jim Fregosi 250K FA 76-77
    2B-3B: Jack Brohamer* 500K 72 3R HTD
    3B: Doug Rader 4.75M FA 76-77
    DH: Manny Mota 250K FA 77
    OF: Jay Johnstone* 2.5M FA 77
    OF: Dwight Evans 3M 72 #4
    P: Bill Bonham 7.75M FA 77
    P: Don Gullett 6.5M FA 77
    C: Glen Borgmann 250K FA 76-77
    2B: Sandy Alomar# 250K FA 76-77
    OF: Jerry Morales 500K FA 75-77
    P: Wayne Twitchell 1M FA77
    P: Bo McLaughlin 250K FA77
    P: Tom House* 250K FA 77
    non-tendered
    SP: Paul Thormodsgard 250K 77 5th round
    2B: George Zeber 250K 77 6th round

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    It will sure seem strange without Mac. There were only four of us original owners left; now our number dwindles to three. Hope whatever issue he has works out well for him and he'll be back in short order.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Mac is a classy professional that really knows his baseball! Hopefully his absence will indeed be a short one.
    My dream ballpark dimensions
    LF: 388 Feet...Height 37 Feet...LCF: 455 Feet...CF: 542 Feet...Height 35 Feet
    RCF: 471 Feet...RF: 400 Feet...Height 60 Feet
    Location....San Diego

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    Definately hope to see you back soon, Mac. Won't be the same without you, bud.
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
    - Sammy Sosa

    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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    Bill, you have a PM.

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    Tomorrow is the deadline for offering or changing a HTD bid.

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    Has the 1978 roster and free agents for the Gold Sox been posted?
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    No, it hasn't. My apologies. I've had to deal with exams, moving home, my mom undergoing brain surgery, and searching for a job in the last several weeks.

    FAs:

    Fred Kendall
    Larry Haney
    Pete LaCock
    Dick Allen
    Mike Jorgensen
    Don Money
    Ken Macha
    Frank Duffy
    Vic Harris
    Mickey Rivers
    Dock Ellis
    Dave Goltz
    Jim Rooker
    Jim Crawford
    Milt Wilcox
    Dave Hamilton
    Mike Garman
    Roger Moret
    Clay Carroll
    Odell Jones
    Preston Hanna
    Marty Pattin
    Santo Alcala

    Roster:

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    POSITION	SIGNED	EXPIRES	SALARY
    			$57,500,000
    CATCHER			
    Johnny Bench	1976	1980	$9,000,000
    FIRST BASE			
    Dave Bergman	1975	1980	$250,000
    C. Yastrzemski	1976	1978	$2,750,000
    SECOND BASE			
    Steve Staggs	1977	1978	250000
    THIRD BASE			
    Eric Soderholm	1976	1978	$1,750,000
    SHORTSTOP			
    Luis Gomez	1974	1979	$250,000
    Larry Bowa	1976	1978	$1,250,000
    LEFT FIELD			
    Ken Singleton	1976	1980	$9,500,000
    Bernie Carbo	1977	1978	500000
    CENTER FIELD			
    Elliot Maddox	1976	1978	$750,000
    Miguel Dilone	1973	1979	$250,000
    RIGHT FIELD			
    Jeff Burroughs	1976	1978	$3,000,000
    Leroy Stanton	1976	1978	$1,000,000
    STARTERS			
    Tom Seaver	1976	1979	$26,750,000
    Dave Freisleben	1974	1979	$250,000
    RELIEVERS
    15 players, 57.5M.
    Last edited by Erik Bedard; 05-07-2011 at 09:46 AM.

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    Hope everything went okay with your Mom and she is on the mend.

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    With Bill Russell returned to the fold the Corsairs are pretty well set before we even get to the draft and free agent auctions

    C Ed Ott 98 OPS+
    1B Andre Thornton 151
    2B Bill Madlock 144
    3B Doug DeCinces 149
    SS Bill Russell 92
    LF Steve Kemp 117
    CF Fred Lynn 133
    RF Bobby Bonds 138
    DH Mitchell Page 134
    C Brian Downing 98 (platoon with Ott)
    IF Jerry Royster 78
    OF Jerry Martin 119
    --The defense is only okay. Russell is EX at SS, but everybody else is AV. Still any position player I add will likely be bench fodder/inhury replacement.

    SP Ron Guidry 208 ERA+
    SP Jon Matlack 167
    SP Phil Neikro 142
    SP Matt Keough 112
    SP Rick Rhoden 96

    RP Ken Forsch 122
    RP Tug McGraw 112
    RP Rawley Eastwick 98

    --Some bulllpen depth/improvement is needed or perhaps an upgrade at 5th starter with Rhoden going to the pen. We've got 40M to spend on that though. Its going to be an easy offseason for Emerald City.

    --The Knights will require more work. 3B, RF and DH are vacancies. LF and CF both have playing time issues and will need good backups. Several of my SP will need somebody to pick up innings slack for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    Hope everything went okay with your Mom and she is on the mend.
    She's getting better. Back to work in a couple weeks.

    The Gold Sox... this will be a rebuilding year. Two-thirds of a solid lineup, but with just two pitchers, one of whom loses any remaining shred of usefulness this year.

    We're looking to trade the following:

    Larry Bowa (SS, 92 OPS+)
    Jeff Burroughs (OF/DH, 156 OPS+)
    Carl Yastrzemski (LF/1B, 112 OPS+)
    Eric Soderholm (3B, 108 OPS+)
    Tom Seaver (SP, 125 ERA+, 1.18 WHIP)

    Chances are best reasonable offer by the start of the season will get them. I've gotten offers for Bowa and Burroughs already.
    Last edited by Erik Bedard; 05-07-2011 at 09:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    Hope everything went okay with your Mom and she is on the mend.
    Ditto from me. Glad to hear things went well with your mom. I also hope your exams went well, and best of luck with the job search!
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    The Beavers and Lumberjacks have agreed to a trade. The Beavers get Jim Palmer and Charlie Moore; the Lumberjacks get the Beavers 1979 #1 draft pick, Fred Norman and Carlton Fisk. Both Fisk and Palmer are franchise players. The Beavers will sign Palmer for 2 years at 14M.
    Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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    The Lumberjacks confirm this trade, sign Fisk to a one year, 13M deal and immediately put him on the market.

    If anyone is interested in a vg fielding catcher with a 125 OPS+ in 658 PAs (also plays an av left field), PM me.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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