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  1. #126
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    The Legends announce the following signings, bringing their total payroll for 40 players to 97.75M:
    Lou Piniella - 4M, 1 Year
    Jim Wohlford - 250K, 1 Year
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    This was my mistake in offering the deal for 5 years in my HTD offer, which forced anyone else to match it (or I suppose point out the error when it was posted). I think Garry should be allowed to have the 5 year deal.
    I was wondering how that worked. If it was anyone other than Mark L posting the bid we would have inquired about it. '82 is a big season for Harrah though and affected the amount we offered for him. Without it we weren't have gone after him to the extent we did.
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    The Thunder are looking to move utility infielder, Larry Milbourne before the cut deadline. We're also willing to hear proposals for Cliff Johnson, Bill Campbell, Bill Almon, or Jim Wright, but will obviously expect more than we'd ask for Milbourne.
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    The Skipjacks announce the following signings:

    Rod Carew - 5 yrs, $13.5M per. Great to have you back, Rod.
    Jim Bibby - 5 yrs, $10.0M per. Not too excited about eating '82, but we'll take it.
    Dave Lemanczyk - 2 yrs, $1.25M per. Stockpiling part-time SPs for the '79 rotation.
    Greg Gross - 2 yrs, $1.0M per. Takes Lee Lacy's spot in '79.
    Darrel Chaney - 1 yr, $250K. Relieved to get a second utility IF; rated VG at SS.

    Not an awe-inspiring haul considering the large amount of talent in this year's free agency... but not a disappointment either.

    This should bring us to 38 players and $90.25 mil.

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    As such, we've got two spots to fill and $9.75 mil to play with. We'd rather entertain trade offers than sign off the waiver wire. Please PM me before the cut-down deadline if you have either a pitcher or left-handed bat on the block, that could help us win games sometime between 1978-1980.

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    Badgers cut Jerry Terrell - .250, John Hale - .250 and Steve Brye - .500 to get down to 40 players.
    Contracts to follow.
    Ed
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    Badgers FA signings
    Don Kessinger - .500 - 1 yr
    Rowland Office - .250 - 3 yrs
    Biff Pocoroba - .250 - 1 yr
    Doug Rau - .500 - 1 yr
    Mickey Rivers - 2.250 - 3 yrs
    Greg Thayer - .250 - 1 yr
    Dick Tidrow - 2.750 - 3 yrs
    Del Unser - .250 - 3 yrs
    Bobby valentine -.500 - 2 yrs
    Jack Brohamer - .250 - 3 yrs
    Bill Stein - .750 - 3 yrs
    Rennie Stennett - .500 - 3 yrs

    Brings me to 40 players - for 85.750 and another 1.000 for cut players for Grand Total of - 40 players 86.750 salary. Leaving 13+ mil for absorbing salary in any deal.

    BTW, I have 3 CF's rated VG - Office - 439 PA's, CF - VG48, Mickey Rivers - 604 PA's, CF - VG96 and Thad Bosley - 219 PA's, LF, CF and RF - VG118

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    Spikes final signings:

    RF Dwight Evans - 5 yr/$10.75M
    DH Hal McCrae - 3 yr/$3.5M
    DH Jorge Orta - 1 yr/$5.0M
    C Bob Stinson - 1 yr/$2.0M
    C Mike Colbern - 1 yr/250K

    That puts us at 41 players for $96.25.

    We'd like to deal Stinson before cut downs, if possible. Switch hitting catcher with 423 PA's. 111 OPS+. Defensively he lacks range (Pr), but the rest of his game is very solid (Av arm, 2 PB rating, 82 Error rating).

    Pretty much anyone on our team would be available outside of McCatty, Blyleven, Bell, and Evans.

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    Glenn Abbott - 250K/3 yr.
    Mike Barlow - 250K/3 yr.
    Pete Broberg - 250K/1 yr.
    Pete LaCock - 250K/3 yr.
    Willie McCovey - 250K/2 yr.
    Freddie Patek - 250K/3 yr.
    Ralph Garr - 250K/2 yr.
    Jim Kaat - 250K/3 yr.
    Jim Rooker - 250K/2 yr.
    Joe Rudi - 750K/3 yr.
    Dave Cash - 1M/2 yr.
    Jay Johnstone - 750K/3 yr.
    Gary Thomasson - 250K/2 yr.
    Bill Bonham - 1.5M/2 yr.
    Reggie Jackson - 21.25M/5 yr.
    Don Sutton - 13.5M/5 yr.
    Mike Bruhert - 250K/1 yr.
    Jim Colborn - 250K/1 yr.
    Jim Lonborg - 250K/1 yr.
    Mickey Mahler - 250K/2 yr.
    Andy Replogle - 250K/1 yr.
    Wilbur Wood - 250K/1 yr.
    Duffy Dyer - 250K/1 yr.
    George Scott - 250K/2 yr.
    Dave Rader - 250K/3 yr.

    ... putting us at 40 players, 100M.
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    The Thunder need to move one player. IF Larry Milbourne is the player on the edge right now. We'd trade him for any reasonable offer. However, there are some other players we would be willing to move for the right compensation.

    John Ellis - He's signed for 750K through next season. This year he's a typical backup catcher, but next year he provides a 103 OPS+ in 337 PA. If you're looking for a quality backup or a platoon catcher, he could fit the bill.
    Bill Campbell - 107 ERA+ with 227 BF. However is K/BB and HR/9 numbers indicate he may be able to surpass his ERA performance on the right team. He's on the last year of his contract for 1 million.
    Jim Wright - 117 ERA+ in 480 BF. He can start or relieve. Signed to a rookie contract for 500K.
    Bill Almon - Not a great hitter, but he provides near starter playing time (442 PA) and can play three positions (2B, 3B, SS). Signed to a rookie deal for 250K.
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    Corsairs fA signings
    Goose Gossage 15.0, 1 year
    Andy Hassler 1.25, 3 years
    Bill Robinson 4.25, 2 years
    Jesus Alou, 1.0, 1 year
    Reggie Cleveland 4.25, 1 year
    Craig Skok, .50, 1 year
    Wayne Cage .50, 1 year
    Ken Brett .25, 2 years
    Tom House .25, 1 year

    now at 40 players for 95.75

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    Knights signings

    Graig Nettles 15.0, 1 year
    Johnny Grubb 17.25, 1 year
    Mickey Stanley .25, 1 year
    Derrell Thomas .75, 3 years
    Mickey Kelleher .25, 2 years
    Dan Meyer .25, 2 years
    Pedro Borbon .25, 2 years
    Willie Montanez .50, 1 year

    now at 40 players for 96.50

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    A few of the Spikes players currently on the block who might be able to help out a contender...most can be had for cheap.

    Charlie Hough: RH RP, signed to a one-year deal for $1.75M. 93 IP, 108 ERA+, 1.254 WHIP. Very strong vs. RH's (.182 BA-Against, .560 OPS-Against).

    Mark Fidrych: RH SP, signed to a one-year deal for 250K. 85 BF's, 161 ERA+, 1.00 WHIP. Could give a contender 3 quality starts in September. And despite being a right hander, he also a good option as a vs. LH Closer or Setup man, as he dominated lefties (.159 BA-Against, .423 OPS-Against).

    Bob Stinson: Switch hitting catcher. One year deal for $2M. 423 PA's, 111 OPS+. Av arm, 2 PB rating.

    Bucky Dent: SS. One year left on $1M rookie deal. 415 PA's, 72 OPS+. Vg/54 glove.

    Bill Buckner: 1B. 3 year's left on a $1.5M deal. 470 PA's, 104 OPS+. Av/65 at 1B. Lefty killer in 1978 (.389 BA, 172 OPS+ vs. LHP)

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    Thunder signings:
    Dave Goltz 1 year, 13 million
    Bob Boone 2 year, 5.25 million
    Don Money 1 year, 11.5 million
    Cliff Johnson 3 year, 1.25 million
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
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    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
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    I think even without the MP's being set the Corsairs have to be the early favorites for this season
    Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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    The Corsairs are looking strong. They're an easy favorite in their division I'd say, with the Iron and Gamblers competing to see who is the runner up. Over in the Hulbert, I think it will be the Skipjacks and Thunder battling it out again, but the Legends have a good club too. I think the WC will be the Hulbert runner up.

    Over in the Robinson league, it will probably be the Knights and Angels fighting for supremecy in the Johnson, while the Blues and Beavers duke it out over the Cartwright. I'd bet on the runner up in the Johnson for the WC.
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
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    --With no MPs except my own I wouldn't bet too much on my sim results. The Corsairs probably do project to have the easiest time of it in their diision with the other races projecting much as Craig has them. The Skipjacks have really rocked my early sims though, running about even with the Corasairs as best team in baseball. That is without anything but basic lineups though. The Thunder have alot of talent to mix and match for favorable matchups.

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    The Spikes will go ahead and cut Ted Cox to get down to 40, taking the 500K hit to our cap. That leaves us at 40 players for $96.5M.

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    * No MP files from me for the time being, Mark, until technical difficulties are resolved. You can keep sending me the files, though. Other than opening the MP screen in databases that I've loaded from you (I don't have that problem on seasons I've purchased myself), DMB appears to be working flawlessly on the new computer.

    Spikes 1978 MP

    25-Man Roster
    SP Bert Blyleven
    SP Frank Tanana
    SP Bob Forsch
    SP Chris Knapp
    SP Larry McWilliams
    RP Randy Moffitt
    RP Charlie Hough
    RP Paul Mitchell
    RP Ray Burris
    RP David Clylde
    C Butch Wynegar
    1B Bill Buckner
    2B Junior Kennedy
    3B Buddy Bell
    SS Bucky Dent
    LF Steve Henderson
    CF Garry Maddox
    RF Dwight Evans
    DH Jorge Orta
    DH Hal McCrae
    C Bob Stinson
    1B/3B Enos Cabell
    2B Duane Kuiper
    SS Johnnie LeMaster
    OF Larry Harlow

    Farm System
    RP Don Hood
    RP George Frazier
    RP Rob Dressler
    SP Mark Fidrych
    SS Bert Campaneris
    SP Steve McCatty
    LF Andres Mora
    SP Don Aase
    IF Jimmy Sexton
    RP Stan Perzanowski
    RP Jim Todd
    C Mike Colbern
    SS Rob Picciolo
    C Buck Martinez
    OF Willie Norwood

    Lineup vs RHP
    CF Garry Maddox (Larry Harlow)
    DH Jorge Orta (Hal McCrae)
    LF Steve Henderson (Larry Harlow)
    RF Dwight Evans (Larry Harlow)
    1B Bill Buckner (Enos Cabell 20%)
    3B Buddy Bell (Enos Cabell)
    C Butch Wynegar (Bob Stinson 10%)
    SS Bucky Dent (Johnnie LeMaster 10%)
    2B Junior Kennedy (Duane Kuiper 20%)

    Lineup vs LHP
    CF Garry Maddox (Larry Harlow)
    1B Bill Buckner (Enos Cabell)
    LF Steve Henderson (Larry Harlow)
    RF Dwight Evans (Larry Harlow)
    DH Hal McCrae (Jorge Orta)
    3B Buddy Bell (Enos Cabell)
    C Butch Wynegar (Bob Stinson 10%)
    SS Bucky Dent (Johnnie LeMaster 10%)
    2B Junior Kennedy (Duane Kuiper 20%)


    Pitching Assignments
    Rotation: 5 Man Skip
    SP1: Bert Blyleven
    SP2: Frank Tanana
    SP3: Bob Forsch
    SP4: Chris Knapp
    SP5: Larry McWilliams
    Mopup Relief: David Clyde
    Longman: Paul Mitchell, Ray Burris, Randy Moffitt, David Clyde
    LH Setup: David Clyde, Ray Burris
    RH Setup: Charlie Hough, Ray Burris
    LH Closer: Charlie Hough, Randy Moffitt
    RH Closer: Charlie Hough, Randy Moffitt

    Managerial Profile
    Hitting
    Bunt for hit: Standard
    Sac Bunt: Standard
    Squeeze: Standard
    Hit and Run: Standard
    Steal: Standard
    Take Extra Bases: Standard
    Take Pitches: Standard
    Pinch hit for pitchers: Standard
    Pinch hit for non-pitchers: Standard
    Pinch hit for Platoon Partner: Standard
    Pinch hit in blowouts: Standard

    Pitching
    Pitch Around: Standard
    IBB: Standard
    Pickoff: Standard
    Pitching Out: Standard
    Use Relievers: Standard
    Use Closers: Standard

    Defense
    Hold Runners: Standard
    IF In: Standard
    Guard Lines: Standard

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    SP: Juan Berenguer 0.50K Contract: 1978 Rookie, Exp 1983
    OF: Steve Braun 0.25K Contract: 1977 FA/trade, 3 Years Exp 1979
    RP: Warren Brusstar 0.50K Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    SP: Mike Caldwell 6.00M Contract: 1977 FA, 5 Years Exp 1981
    LF: Jose Cardenal 0.25K Contract: 1977 FA, 3 Years Exp 1979
    SP: Larry Christenson 1.50M Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    1B: Tim Corcoran 0.25K Contract: 1977 draftee/trade, Exp 1982
    1B: Dan Driessen 1.50M Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    C: Joe Ferguson 5.75M Contract: 1978 FA, 2 Years Exp 1979
    RP: Rollie Fingers 10.00M Contract: 1974 FA, 5 Years Exp 1978
    SP: Ed Halicki 1.00M Contract: 1974 Rookie, Exp 1979
    SS: Toby Harrah 6.50M Contract: 1978 FA, 5 Years Exp 1982
    SP: Catfish Hunter 2.00M Contract: 1977 FA, 2 years Exp 1978
    RP: Roy Lee Jackson 0.50K Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    3B: Ray Knight 0.25K Contract: 1974 Rookie, Exp 1979
    SP: Kevin Kobel 0.50K Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    RP: Bob Lacey 0.75K Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    SP: Dennis Leonard 2.50M Contract: 1974 Rookie, Exp 1979
    RF: Jeffrey Leonard 0.50K Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    RP: Skip Lockwood 4.00M Contract: 1976 FA/trade 3 Years Exp 1978
    2B: Davey Lopes 7.00M Contract: 1978 FA, 2 Years Exp 1979
    1B: John Mayberry 2.50M Contract: 1977 FA/trade 3 Years Exp 1979
    CF: Lee Mazzilli 2.00M Contract: 1976 Rookie, Exp 1981
    SP: Scott McGregor 2.00M Contract: 1975 draftee/trade, Exp 1980
    DH: Jose Morales 0.50M Contract: 1973 draftee/trade, Exp 1978
    2B: Joe Morgan 4.00M Contact: 1978 FA, 3 Years Exp 1980
    OF: Bobby Murcer 0.75K Contract: 1977 FA, 2 Years Exp 1978
    SP: Mike Norris 1.00M Contract: 1975 Rookie, Exp 1980
    CF: Billy North 5.50M Contract: 1977 FA, 4 Years Exp 1980
    OF/IF: Ron Pruitt 0.50K Contract: 1975 Rookie, Exp 1980
    SP: Eric Rasmussen 1.00M Contract: 1975 Rookie, Exp 1980
    OF: Merv Rettenmund 2.50M Contract: 1977 FA, Exp 1978
    LF: Gene Richards 1.50M Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    3B/1B: Pete Rose 5.25M Contract: 1977 FA, 4 Years Exp 1980
    SP: Lary Sorensen 1.00M Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    SP: Craig Swan 0.75K Contract: 1973 draftee/trade Exp 1978
    RF: Otto Velez 0.75K Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    C: John Wathan 0.75K Contract: 1976 Rookie, Exp 1981
    1B: Bob Watson 7.50M Contract: 1978 FA, 1 Year Exp 1978
    2B: Larry Wolfe 0.25K Contract: 1977 FA, 3 Years Exp 1979

    40 PLAYERS = 92.25M + 0.25 released = 92.50M

    25 Man Roster

    OF: Steve Braun 0.25K Contract: 1977 FA/trade, 3 Years Exp 1979
    RP: Warren Brusstar 0.50K Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    SP: Mike Caldwell 6.00M Contract: 1977 FA, 5 Years Exp 1981
    SP: Larry Christenson 1.50M Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    1B: Dan Driessen 1.50M Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    C: Joe Ferguson 5.75M Contract: 1978 FA, 2 Years Exp 1979
    RP: Rollie Fingers 10.00M Contract: 1974 FA, 5 Years Exp 1978
    SP: Ed Halicki 1.00M Contract: 1974 Rookie, Exp 1979
    SS: Toby Harrah 6.50M Contract: 1978 FA, 5 Years Exp 1982
    SP: Kevin Kobel 0.50K Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    SP: Dennis Leonard 2.50M Contract: 1974 Rookie, Exp 1979
    2B: Davey Lopes 7.00M Contract: 1978 FA, 2 Years Exp 1979
    CF: Lee Mazzilli 2.00M Contract: 1976 Rookie, Exp 1981
    SP: Scott McGregor 2.00M Contract: 1975 draftee/trade, Exp 1980
    DH: Jose Morales 0.50M Contract: 1973 draftee/trade, Exp 1978
    2B: Joe Morgan 4.00M Contact: 1978 FA, 3 Years Exp 1980
    OF: Bobby Murcer 0.75K Contract: 1977 FA, 2 Years Exp 1978
    CF: Billy North 5.50M Contract: 1977 FA, 4 Years Exp 1980
    OF: Merv Rettenmund 2.50M Contract: 1977 FA, Exp 1978
    LF: Gene Richards 1.50M Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    3B/1B: Pete Rose 5.25M Contract: 1977 FA, 4 Years Exp 1980
    SP: Lary Sorensen 1.00M Contract: 1977 Rookie, Exp 1982
    SP: Craig Swan 0.75K Contract: 1973 draftee/trade Exp 1978
    RF: Otto Velez 0.75K Contract: 1973 Rookie, Exp 1978
    1B: Bob Watson 7.50M Contract: 1978 FA, 1 Year Exp 1978

    Lineup vs RHP

    LF: Gene Richards L
    RF: Bobby Murcer L
    CF: Lee Mazzilli S
    3B: Pete Rose S
    1B: Dan Driessen L
    2B: Joe Morgan L
    C: Joe Ferguson R (Morales 35% R)
    DH: Steve Braun L (North 30%)
    SS: Toby Harrah R
    PH vs RHP: Merv Rettenmund
    PH vs LHP: Merv Rettenmund, Bob Watson, Otto Velez

    Lineup vs LHP

    LF: Gene Richards L
    RF: Bobby Murcer L
    DH: Otto Velez R
    1B: Bob Watson R
    CF: Lee Mazzilli S
    3B: Pete Rose S
    2B: Davey Lopes R
    C: Joe Ferguson R (Morales 35% R)
    SS: Toby Harrah R
    PH vs RHP: Merv Rettenmund, Joe Morgan, Dan Driessen
    PH vs LHP: Merv Rettenmund



    Pitching Assignments
    Rotation - 4 Man, strict
    SP1: Mike Caldwell
    SP2: Craig Swan
    SP3: Ed Halicki
    SP4: Scott McGregor

    Closer: Rollie Fingers
    LH Set Up: Kevin Kobel
    RH Set Up: Larry Christenson, Lary Sorensen
    Long Relief: Dennis Leonard, Warren Brusstar
    Mopup:


    Strategy
    Bunt For Hit: Normal
    Sacrifice Bunt: Normal
    Squeeze Bunt: Normal
    Hit and Run: Normal
    Stealing: Normal
    Running: Normal
    Taking Pitches: More
    PH For Pitchers: Normal
    PH For non Pitchers: Normal
    PH For Platoon Partner: Normal
    PH In Blowouts: More
    Pitching Around: Normal
    Intentional Walk: Normal
    Pickoffs: Normal
    Pitching Out: Normal
    Using Relievers: Normal
    Using Closers: Normal
    Holding Runners: Normal
    Infield In: Normal
    Guard Lines: Normal

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    The Hard Cider are placing Willie Stargell on the trading block. He has a very manageable contract of 6M over the next couple seasons and will provide the big bat that might make the difference for a contender this year.

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    * No MP files from me for the time being, Mark, until technical difficulties are resolved. You can keep sending me the files, though. Other than opening the MP screen in databases that I've loaded from you (I don't have that problem on seasons I've purchased myself), DMB appears to be working flawlessly on the new computer.
    Mark - Make sure you are running the game under administrative privileges. I saw something about this over at the DMB forums - I presume your new system is a Windows 7 system. I went in and made the suggested change as soon as I loaded DM onto my new Win7 system and I've never had a problem with it. Here is a link to that thread. If this is the source of your problem it should fix it. If not, register for these forums and post your problem. There are some very knowledgeable people over there.
    DMB Windows 7 thread
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  23. #148
    The Hard Cider will cut Ron Schueler to get down to 40 men.

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    The Thunder cut Larry Milbourne to get under 40.
    "I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame."
    - Sammy Sosa

    "Get a comfy chair, Sammy, cause its gonna be a long wait."
    - Craig Ashley (AKA Windy City Fan)

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    The Dust Bunnies sign the players acquired in the FA bidding process the following contracts:

    Jerry Morales - 3 years (78-80) $0.25M
    Preston Hanna - 3 years (78-80) $0.25M
    Dave Tomlin - 2 years (78-79) $0.75M)
    Stan Bahnsen - 3 years (78-80) $1.75M
    Grant Jackson - 3 years (78-80) $3.75M
    Jerry Koosman - 2 years (78-79) $5.00M
    Sparky Lyle - 2 years (78-79) $2.25M
    Bill Lee - 2 years (78-79) $6.50
    Gary Matthews - 2 years (78-79) $11.00
    Dusty Baker - 5 years (78-82) $10.50

    Jack
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