1998 Best of Baseball election thread

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  • Dogdaze
    2004, 2007 & 2013
    • Oct 2006
    • 1593

    #16
    Players:

    1. George Brett
    2. Addie Joss
    3. Edd Roush
    4. Wally Berger
    5. Lou Brock
    6. Perucho Cepeda
    7. Luis Aparicio
    8. Charlie Keller
    9. Dwight Evans
    10. Masaaki Koyama
    11. Rick Reuschel
    12. Eppa Rixey

    Contributors:

    1. Bob Ferguson
    2. Vic Harris
    3. Iso Abe
    4. Vin Scully
    5. Billy Evans

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    • jalbright
      Researcher/advocate/mod
      • Mar 2005
      • 23264

      #17
      Originally posted by TheMendozaLine View Post
      Players:

      1. George Brett
      2. Addie Joss
      2. Lou Brock
      3. Jake Beckley
      4. Edd Roush
      5. Charlie Keller
      6. Masaaki Koyama
      7. Tony Mullane
      8. Jimmy Sheckard
      9. Keith Hernandez
      10. Rick Reuschel
      11. Ray Dandridge
      12. Quincy Trouppe
      Unfortunately, you have 2 number 2's, which leads to a 13 man ballot. As it stands, I'd treat this as a valid ballot, with the second #2 becoming number 3 and everyone else moving down a slot and Trouppe dropping off the ballot. That said, I'd prefer you to confirm that approach or make your own changes. I'll also send you a PM on this.
      Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
      Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
      A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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      • TheMendozaLine
        Registered User
        • May 2010
        • 443

        #18
        fixed!!!!!!!

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        • PVNICK
          Registered User
          • Jul 2007
          • 13685

          #19
          1. George Brett
          2. Lou Brock
          3. Bill Freehan
          4. Edd Roush
          5. Frank Howard
          6. Orlando Cepeda
          7. Dewey Evans
          8. Keith Hernandez
          9. Cupid Childs
          10. Dave Bancroft
          11. Tommy Leach
          12. Tony Perez

          coming back soon: Ray Dandridge, Johnny Evers
          coming up: Darrell Evans, Bando, Pinson, Maranville, Reggie Smith and Tommy John to name a few.

          1. O.P. Caylor
          2. Red Smith
          3. Billy Evans
          4. Tommy McCarthy
          5. Bob Ferguson

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          • J W
            Buck Showalter fanboy
            • Jan 2000
            • 5598

            #20
            Players

            1. George Brett
            2. Addie Joss
            3. Eppa Rixey
            4. Edd Roush
            5. Joe Sewell
            6. Rollie Fingers
            7. Luis Aparicio
            8. Keith Hernandez
            9. Wally Berger
            10. Bill Freehan
            11. Billy Pierce
            12. Reggie Smith

            The two people on my list who were elected are replaced by Brett and Hernandez. Jim Wynn was #1 position player in my queue... that falls now to Graig Nettles.

            Contributors

            1. Al Munro Elias
            2. Billy Martin
            3. Billy Evans
            4. Dick Williams
            5. Vic Harris

            Vic Harris and Red Schoendienst are two managers that have climbed up my charts because of their playing days. Harris will make it very soon. Please consider Schoendienst as a combo candidate (that's for player & manager, not as vet's committee member) in the mold of the newly elected Phil Rizzuto.
            http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...-showalter.gif

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            • Captain Cold Nose
              OSHA-certified Moderator
              • Jan 2000
              • 21031

              #21
              1. George Brett
              2. Edd Roush
              3. Addie Joss
              4. Keith Hernandez
              5. Burleigh Grimes
              6. Luis Aparicio
              7. Lefty Gomez
              8. Eppa Rixey
              9. Jake Beckley
              10. Lou Brock
              11. Ray Dandridge
              12. Tony Perez

              Contributors


              1. Billy Evans
              2. O.P. Caylor
              3. Vic Harris
              4. Vin Scully
              5. Dick Williams
              Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
              Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
              Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
              Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
              Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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              • Domenic
                Registered User
                • Sep 2008
                • 3266

                #22
                01. George Brett
                02. Eppa Rixey
                03. Wally Berger
                04. Jake Beckley
                05. Burleigh Grimes
                06. Addie Joss
                07. Urban Shocker
                08. Perucho Cepeda
                09. Bill Freehan
                10. Sal Bando
                11. Luis Aparicio
                12. Keith Hernandez

                01. Frank Jobe
                02. Vin Scully
                03. Vic Harris
                04. Lefty O'Doul
                05. OP Caylor

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                • joggerdru
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 89

                  #23
                  1 George Brett
                  2 Addie Joss
                  3 B Grimes
                  4 Eppa Rixey
                  5 Keith Hernandez
                  6 Ed Roush
                  7 Lou Brock
                  8 Luis Aparicio
                  9 Urban Shocker
                  10 Charlie Keller
                  11 Jake Beckley
                  12 Billy Pierce

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                  • jalbright
                    Researcher/advocate/mod
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 23264

                    #24
                    We have a quorum on the player side, and are one vote shy of that mark on the contributor side.
                    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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                    • Chadwick
                      Chasing Cooperstown
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 16797

                      #25
                      Players
                      1. George Brett
                      2. Charlie Keller
                      3. Dwight Evans
                      4. Perucho Cepeda
                      5. Masaaki Koyama
                      6. Rick Reuschel
                      7. Jimmy Sheckard
                      8. Reggie Smith
                      9. Cal McVey
                      10. Bill Freehan
                      11. Darrell Evans
                      12. Keith Hernandez

                      Contributors
                      1. O.P. Caylor
                      2. Iso Abe
                      3. Vic Harris
                      4. Dick Williams
                      5. Bob Ferguson
                      "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                      "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                      "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                      "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                      • jalbright
                        Researcher/advocate/mod
                        • Mar 2005
                        • 23264

                        #26
                        We now have a quorum on both sides of the ballot.
                        Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
                        Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
                        A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

                        Comment

                        • Chadwick
                          Chasing Cooperstown
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 16797

                          #27
                          Originally posted by jalbright View Post
                          We now have a quorum on both sides of the ballot.
                          And there was much rejoicing...
                          "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                          "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                          "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                          "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

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                          • Captain Cold Nose
                            OSHA-certified Moderator
                            • Jan 2000
                            • 21031

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Brad Harris View Post
                            And there was much rejoicing...
                            Way to keep with the holiday.
                            Dave Bill Tom George Mark Bob Ernie Soupy Dick Alex Sparky
                            Joe Gary MCA Emanuel Sonny Dave Earl Stan
                            Jonathan Neil Roger Anthony Ray Thomas Art Don
                            Gates Philip John Warrior Rik Casey Tony Horace
                            Robin Bill Ernie JEDI

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                            • Chadwick
                              Chasing Cooperstown
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 16797

                              #29
                              With respect to some of next year's newcomers, I present the following as discussion starters...

                              Andre Dawson versus Dewey Evans

                              Ozzie Smith versus Perucho Cepeda

                              Dennis Eckersley versus Rick Reuschel
                              "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                              "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                              "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                              "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

                              Comment

                              • Chadwick
                                Chasing Cooperstown
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 16797

                                #30
                                Dennis Eckersley's career breaks down into two parts: the starter (thru age 31) and the reliever (age 32 on). Looking at contemporary pitchers of comparable value, Eckersley's career is essentially the first half of Kevin Appier's career with the back half of Doug Jones' career tacked onto it. Contrast this to Reuschel, who was substantially more productive in both halves of his career and I don't see how you can rank the Hall of Famer over already supported Reuschel.
                                "It is a simple matter to erect a Hall of Fame, but difficult to select the tenants." -- Ken Smith
                                "I am led to suspect that some of the electorate is very dumb." -- Henry P. Edwards
                                "You have a Hall of Fame to put people in, not keep people out." -- Brian Kenny
                                "There's no such thing as a perfect ballot." -- Jay Jaffe

                                Comment

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