BBF Cardinals Hall of Fame - Round two

[jalbright]

Players:

Jim Edmonds
Bob Caruthers
Curt Flood
Keith Hernandez
Red Schoendienist
Jesse Haines
Silver King
Larry Jackson
Jim Bottomley
Marty Marion
Ray Lankford
Tip O'Neill(I thought the only Tip O'Neill was a House Speaker.....)
Pepper Martin
Willie McGee
Ed Konetchy

Contributers:
Gussie Busch
Tony LaRussa
Billy Southworth
Chris von der Ahe (What a name!)
Eddie Dyer

Please start trying to alphabetize your list. I'm doing plenty of work putting up the threads and compiling the votes. I use a spreadsheet to help count the vote, and I've listed the candidates alphabetically. You're making extra and unnecessary work for me by making me sort it out. I don't want to have to make alphabetizing a rule for a valid ballot, but if necessary, I will do so. Thank you in advance for your cooperation in the future.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

It's fine, though I assume you mean lankford and am counting it that way unless otherwise advised.

yes lankford, is it ok if i re-edit im not to keen on bob forsch being on my list over bill white.

[jalbright]

yes lankford, is it ok if i re-edit im not to keen on bob forsch being on my list over bill white.

You may edit until the balloting closes. I'd just appreciate either a PM or a post in the affected voting thread to alert me to the change so I do not miss it.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

You may edit until the balloting closes. I'd just appreciate either a PM or a post in the affected voting thread to alert me to the change so I do not miss it.

ok i made changes on my list, foutz and caruthers are both gone and marion and white are in.

[jalbright]

We had 10 votes in both the contributor and player ballots, which means 8 votes were needed to elect. I'll list the official results, players first, and those elected over a gap separating them from those not elected.

Players
9 Bottomley, Jim
9 Edmonds, Jim
9 Schoendienst, Red
8 Brecheen, Harry
8 Flood, Curt
8 Hernandez, Keith
8 Marion, Marty
8 O'Neill, Tip
=== ========
7 Caruthers, Bob
7 Lankford, Ray
6 Konetchy, Ed
5 Haines, Jesse
5 Jackson, Larry
5 McGee, Willie
4 King, Silver
4 Martin, Pepper
3 Cooper, Mort
3 Foutz, Dave
3 White, Bill
1 Breitenstein, Ted
1 Forsch, Bob
1 Hafey, Chick
1 Sutter, Bruce
1 Torre, Joe

Contributors
9 LaRussa, Tony
9 Southworth, Billy
== ===========
7 Busch, Gussie
7 von der Ahe, Chris
2 Devine, Bing
1 Buck, Jack
1 Commiskey, Charlie
1 Schoendienst, Red

I will put up an election or two tomorrow.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

so those 8 guys go in the bbf cardinal hof?

[DoubleX]

It really seems that Jesse Haines is suffering from the stigma of being a poor Cooperstown selection. He was a staple of the Cardinals rotation for 15 years, as he is one of only two pitchers with the Cardinals with 3,000+ IP and one of only with 200+ wins. He also pitched well in four World Series, posting a 1.67 ERA in 32 IP. His 109 ERA+ isn't great, but in the context of just this franchise but should be good enough given his longevity with the franchise, and I don't think any pitcher contributed more to the Cardinals save Bob Gibson. After two rounds, Haines is a decided omission, IMO.

[jalbright]

We have elected the eight players ending with O'Neill a few posts up and the two contributors.

On another note, Haines will make my ballot next go round.

[chicagowhitesox1173]

We have elected the eight players ending with O'Neill a few posts up and the two contributors.

On another note, Haines will make my ballot next go round.

so we do another voting?

[jalbright]

Not for a while. We'll drop teams who the voters don't show sufficient interest in--some of the more recent franchises may well be one and done. However, there are several franchises we haven't even done once yet, and 13 of the original 16 that haven't started a second round. The reason we're not finishing the first round before starting the second for the original 16 is simply that interest had waned with the expansion teams. The mixing of expansion teams with the original 16 is a response to that issue. I don't want to do the third round for the Cards until all the original 16 have had their second round.