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    I recently read a write up regarding the financial situation of the Braves. Looks like we have money coming off the books in the offseason, but the payroll is not going to grow because the owners care more about their profit margin than their product. This just got me thinking about things I don't normally consider. I wonder if the Braves will be active on the waiver wire this year? Finding some diamonds in the rough that other teams have given up on. Just trying to spur some conversation.
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    Has Chipper Jones ever played first base? I think he could be moved there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue387 View Post
    Has Chipper Jones ever played first base? I think he could be moved there.
    That doesn't make a whole lot of sense as that would mean moving Freeman which would be a downgrade defensively both at 1st and wherever Freeman was moved to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureBaseballFan View Post
    That doesn't make a whole lot of sense as that would mean moving Freeman which would be a downgrade defensively both at 1st and wherever Freeman was moved to.
    Depends on who you ask. I'm sure there are people who think Freeman is horrible defensively because he's only a wizard while on the bag.

    The only place to move Freeman would be left and moving Prado to third. Prado was apparently an underrated left fielder last season, so your point would still stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Depends on who you ask. I'm sure there are people who think Freeman is horrible defensively because he's only a wizard while on the bag.

    The only place to move Freeman would be left and moving Prado to third. Prado was apparently an underrated left fielder last season, so your point would still stand.
    Sure I don't think he has the best range of a 1B but on the bag I think he is going to be one of the best 1B at picking balls out of the dirt while doing full splits. Moving Chipper to 1st would be terrible because it really wouldn't be a big improvement in range and the fact Chipper has had problems with groin muscles and leg problems you might actually set him up for more potential injuries then if he were to stay at 3B.

    It makes sense in general to move an aging player to 1B but for the Braves everything is against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    Depends on who you ask. I'm sure there are people who think Freeman is horrible defensively because he's only a wizard while on the bag.
    Ben Duronio makes that exact argument at Capitol Avenue Club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Bravos View Post
    Ben Duronio makes that exact argument at Capitol Avenue Club.
    Well, there you go. Freeman's method of defense is probably why his dWAR and UZR/150 both stink.

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    I've got no dog in that hunt, really. I just wanted to mention that it's a strain of opinion about FF. I don't always agree with Ben's conclusions but I like his writing and I know he comes to his views from a place of seriousness and high regard for the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Bravos View Post
    I've got no dog in that hunt, really. I just wanted to mention that it's a strain of opinion about FF. I don't always agree with Ben's conclusions but I like his writing and I know he comes to his views from a place of seriousness and high regard for the team.
    Well, I was interested to hear what you had to say.

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    I like a first baseman with soft hands and deft reflexes. Galarraga, LaRoche, even Teixiera when he was here. That's sort of the mold Fred's out of so he's cool with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Los Bravos View Post
    I like a first baseman with soft hands and deft reflexes. Galarraga, LaRoche, even Teixiera when he was here. That's sort of the mold Fred's out of so he's cool with me.
    Freeman has some of the best reflexes I've seen in a while.

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    Are The Atlanta Braves Headed For A Fall?
    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/3/13/28...-chipper-jones

    Note: The author is a Cubs fan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue387 View Post
    Are The Atlanta Braves Headed For A Fall?
    http://mlb.sbnation.com/2012/3/13/28...-chipper-jones

    Note: The author is a Cubs fan.
    There are question marks for this team but this article brings up half pointless spring training stats (which he admits mean little in predictive power), and injury questions we already knew about. That isn't to say the questions aren't legit but saying "and another, Brandon Beachy, has pitched poorly this spring." are we really going to make him a question mark because his first 2 starts (5 Innings) in spring training were bad, I mean questioning if he got lucky his first year out whether his HR/FB% will become more of a problem with such a low GB% is fine but his reasoning is terrible and he knows it.

    The article brings up a few true questions for the Braves but to bring up a 12 game sample size as somehow a true reason to worry is comical. The Braves could decline this season but the first week and a half of spring training hasn't added any more questions then what they already had just like it hasn't improved the outlook of any teams.
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    the spring training means nothing. what would worry me more is the marlins improving a lot over the offseason. getting reyes and buehrle will make them stronger. so the second place and WC could be harder to achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dominik View Post
    the spring training means nothing. what would worry me more is the marlins improving a lot over the offseason. getting reyes and buehrle will make them stronger. so the second place and WC could be harder to achieve.
    You know, all that didn't worry me one bit. Josh Johnson has to remain healthy and Carlos Zambrano has to remain sane for the rotation to be improved. After having to deal with Jose Reyes on the Mets for so long, I kind of tuned that news out. Hanley has to make a seamless transition to third base for the Marlins to be improved there too.

    They're good concerns to have, I'll admit, but I don't want to waste my time worrying about everything going right for the other teams right now. It happens enough during the season anyway.

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    Chipper will retire after this season. This will truly be the end of an era.

    He wants to stay with the team in some way I would love for him to be some sort of roving hitting coach for the entire system because unlike a lot of greats he actually seems to be able to help and teach, and maybe the Braves will actually start turning out quality hitters on a consistent basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PureBaseballFan View Post
    Chipper will retire after this season. This will truly be the end of an era.

    He wants to stay with the team in some way I would love for him to be some sort of roving hitting coach for the entire system because unlike a lot of greats he actually seems to be able to help and teach, and maybe the Braves will actually start turning out quality hitters on a consistent basis.
    Who knows if that'll work, of course.

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    He said in the press conference that he wants to take some time off and do some dad stuff but I can't see him staying away for too awfully long.

    As I do every time L.W. Jones does something great, I take a moment here to be thankful for the Van Poppel family's arrogance and hubris. It set all of this into motion.
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