I didn’t see that the op was looking for a specific number at all, and his saying he realized there were several factors involved showed that. There’s no great wisdom in saying there’s no one size fits all, and I don’t think I really ever heard anyone ever say that to begin with. The numbers ASMI suggested were never a mandate that they said would end all arm problems, or had to followed to the letter or else pitchers’ arms would fall off.
Originally Posted by ctandc
When they came out with them, a lot of coaches got their noses all out of joint because they felt they were being attacked, discredited, and told they didn’t know what they were doing, and in the process were hurting kids. Well, in many cases at the time, that was true. But times have changed, and there’s much more of an understanding that everyone’s different, but there’s now something new that’s been added to the game. People now at least think about the health of their kid’s arm, and many like omg, have the sense to seek out the advice of others, rather than to just blindly take the word of someone.
How about it ctandc, have you ever heard of anyone state in no uncertain terms that X number of pitches will definitely hurt someone while Y number won’t? But there’s still the problem of making the determination when a pitcher needs to be done for the day, and that’s really not anymore written in stone now than it was 50 years ago. So, since the possibility is still out there that some coach is a poor judge of when that happens, the guidelines are always there to guard against catastrophe by using the old “better safe than sorry” mentality.
The pitcher who’s afraid to throw strikes, will soon be standing in the shower with the hitter who's afraid to swing.