View Poll Results: 8th Greatest 19th Century Hitter

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  • Buck Ewing

    2 25.00%
  • Pete Browning

    4 50.00%
  • Ross Barnes

    1 12.50%
  • John McGraw

    0 0%
  • Jim O'Rourke

    0 0%
  • Harry Stovey

    0 0%
  • Hughie Jennings

    0 0%
  • Sam Thompson

    0 0%
  • Ned Williamson

    0 0%
  • George Gore

    0 0%
  • Jimmy Ryan

    0 0%
  • Billy Hamilton

    1 12.50%
  • Joe Kelley

    0 0%
  • George Davis

    0 0%
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Thread: 8th Greatest 19th Century Hitter

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    8th Greatest 19th Century Hitter

    Congratulations to Mike 'King' Kelly, for winning our 7th Greatest Hitter of the 19th Century! He won 3 of our 10 votes (30%). Pete Browning received 2 votes for 20%. Ross Barnes also received 2 votes (20%).

    The 8th round for Greatest 19th Century Hitter is now open. It will close when we receive at least 15 voters.

    1. Cap Anson
    2. Dan Brouthers
    3. Ed Delahanty
    4. Roger Connor
    5. Willie Keeler
    6. Jesse Burkett
    7. Mike 'King' Kelly
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    As per our usual, please consider everything. Counting totals, peak, longevity, special skills, etc. Thanks, guys.

    We are now ONLY voting for the 8th Greatest 19th Century Hitter.
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    Form Chart:

    Catchers:
    Jack Clements, "Deacon" Jim McGuire, Moses Fleetwood Walker, Buck Ewing, Charlie Bennett, Charles "Pop" Snyder, Marty Bergen, Duke Farrell, John Warner, Moses Fleetwood Walker, Wilbert Robinson, Doc Bushong, Connie Mack.

    1B
    Joe Start, Charles Comiskey, Wes Fisler, Jake Beckley, Fred Tenney, Ed Konetchy, Dave Orr, Henry Larkin, Cal McVey

    2B
    Ross Barnes, Jack Burdock, Fred Pfeffer, Cupid Childs, Bid McPhee, Jimmy Williams, Fred Dunlap, Hardy Richardson, Sol White, Frank Grant, Bud Fowler, Gene DeMontreville, Bobby Lowe.

    SS
    George Wright, Ed McKean, John Montgomery Ward, Jack Glasscock, Herman Long, Hughie Jennings, George Davis, Bill Dahlen, Tommy Corcoran, Freddie Parent, Dickey Pearce

    3B:
    Ezra Sutton, Levi Meyerle, Bob Ferguson, Arlie Latham, Ned Williamson, John McGraw, Bill Nash, Jim Davis, Lave Cross, Denny Lyons, Deacon White, Jerry Denny, Bill Joyce, Levi Meyerle

    LF
    Harry Stovey, Jim O'Rourke, Tip O'Neill, Abner Dalrymple

    CF:
    Jimmie McAleer, Bill Lange, George Gore, Jimmy Ryan, Harry Wright, Paul Hines, Lip Pike, Tom Brown, George Van Haltren, Dummy Hoy, Billy Hamilton, Hugh Duffy, Ollie Pickering, Curt Welch, Dickey Johnson, Pete Browning, Mike Griffin

    RF
    Willie Keeler, Jimmy Fogarty, Sam Thompson, Mike Tiernan, Oyster Burns

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    Perhaps a little Form Chart might assist us. Visual Aids are nice. Here's a Form Chart that AstrosFan was so kind as to make for us all.
    Elected candidates are high-lighted in red.

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    First	Last		PA	AB	BA+	OBP+	SLG+	ISO+	OPS+
    Ross	Barnes		2506	2392	129.2	132.5	133.3	149.5	165.8
    Pete	Browning	5315	4820	132.8	127.3	134.8	140.6	162.1
    Sam	Thompson	6497	5984	119.7	111.8	134	173.1	145.8
    Harry	Stovey		6832	6138	109.7	112.8	130.4	190.3	143.2
    Billy	Hamilton	7544	6268	120.4	128.2	112.6	89.9	140.8
    King	Kelly		6455	5894	115.4	116.6	121.3	137.8	137.8
    George	Gore		6104	5357	113	122	113.3	113.9	135.2
    John	McGraw		4894	3924	114.5	129.9	105.3	77.9	135.2
    Jim	O'Rourke	9051	8505	116.8	113.8	119.5	127.9	133.3
    Buck	Ewing		5764	5363	111	106.5	122.3	153.2	128.8
    Jimmy	Ryan		9050	8164	108.2	107.5	115.8	137.2	123.3
    Bill	Lange		3570	3195	110.3	109	114.2	125.8	123.2
    Hugh	Duffy		7733	7042	111.7	106.7	115	124.4	121.7
    Charlie	Bennett		4310	3821	97.4	109.3	109	141.5	118.2
    Hughie	Jennings	5538	4904	109	110.6	106.7	99.7	117.3
    Ned	Williamson	5082	4553	95.1	107.2	105.9	136.3	113.2
    Relative ISO: Some 19th Century Hitters: Bold-faced already elected.

    Harry Stovey 189
    Dan Brouthers 178
    Sam Thompson 174
    Roger Connor 172
    Ed Delahanty 166

    Buck Ewing 154
    Ross Barnes 150
    Pete Browning 141
    Mike 'King' Kelly 138
    Jimmy Ryan 138
    Ned Williamson 135
    Bill Lange 126
    Cap Anson 121
    George Gore 114
    Jesse Burkett 114
    Herman Long 109
    Hughie Jennings 101
    Billy Hamilton 0.89
    Willie Keeler 0.84
    John McGraw 0.77
    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 10-24-2011 at 09:22 AM.

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    I think I'm going to go with King Kelly in this round.

    Might I persuade anyone to consider voting in our other 19th Century polls?

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    Last edited by Bill Burgess; 10-23-2011 at 02:42 PM.

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    Pete Browning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Burgess View Post
    I think I'm going to go with King Kelly in this round.

    Might I persuade anyone to consider voting in our other 19th Century polls?

    7th Greatest 19th Century Player

    12th Greatest 19th Century Pitcher
    Wasn't King Kelly just elected?

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    I'll go with the "Gladiator", Pete Browning.
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    Just added the poll. I apologize I forgot. Sorry, fellas.

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    Ross Barnes

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    I invite you to vote in the poll above.

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    Gotta go off the ballot on this one. I'm thinking Hall of Famer Joe Kelley needs a little love.

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    Added him. If anyone needs to add someone, please let me know.

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    I kind of lied about Joe Kelley. He's not #8. But he deserves to be on the ballot. I think I'm picking "sliding" Billy Hamilton. He has a .341 lifetime avg. Not too shabby.

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    Tsk, tsk. Liar, liar, pants on fire, hanging on the telephone wire. Not too big, not too small, just the size of a canon ball.

    "My words fly up, my thoughts remain below.
    Words without thoughts, never to Heaven go."---William Shakespeare

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    Haha! Don't think I've ever heard that one before. I have another request. George Davis is on the original ballot. But we're not able to vote on him yet. He's got solid numbers and he's a terrific defensive player at shortstop. Although, he does play half his career in the twentieth century. Does it matter?

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    Yes, I will uphold that. George Davis started in 1890. He split his career between 2 centuries, just like Cy Young.

    I will add him.

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    If anyone would like a name to be added, assuming he is not a bum, just ask, and we will add him.

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