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    Team WAR leader and World Champion in same season 2 or more X's

    Since 1903, there have been 12 men who have more than once led their team in WAR (baseball reference version) during the same season that their team won the World Series. Here are some hints:

    - All but two men are Hall of Famers
    - Only 8 organizations are represented
    - 4 organizations are represented by more than one player
    - 2 players did it for two different teams
    - Only 2 of the men pitched in any of the seasons (at least meaningful innings)

    Without looking, who are these 12 players? I bet it will not take long for the experts here to get them all.

    1. Babe Ruth (6x)
    2. Mickey Mantle (6x)
    3. Joe Dimaggio (5x)
    4. Derek Jeter (3x)
    5. Stan Musial (2x)
    6. Sandy Koufax (2x)
    7. Reggie Jackson (2x)
    8. Joe Morgan (2x)
    9. Albert Pujols (2x)
    10.Tris Speaker (2x)
    11. Eddie Collins (2x)
    12. Dave Bancroft (2x)
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 11-09-2011 at 09:12 PM.
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    I'll start the guessing with Ruth, Dimaggio, Mantle and Koufax.

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    Gehrig, Musial, Foxx, Reggie Jackson, Mathewson

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    I'll start the guessing with Ruth, Dimaggio, Mantle and Koufax.
    All correct!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    Musial, Reggie Jackson
    These would be correct!
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    Mike Schmidt?
    Joe Morgan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgartohof View Post
    Joe Morgan?
    Only 5 more to go!
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    Jeter, Pujols

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    Derek Jeter?
    Bob Gibson?
    Three Finger Brown?
    Frankie Frisch?

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    How about Roberto Alomar with the Jays in '92-'93?

    Though I have a feeling Olerud was higher in '93.

    Another guess which is probably wrong is Kirby Puckett in '87 and '91.
    Last edited by GiambiJuice; 11-09-2011 at 06:46 AM.

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    Yogi Berra

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brooklyn View Post
    Jeter, Pujols
    There are my two "non- HOFers".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ian2813 View Post
    Derek Jeter?
    Bob Gibson?
    Three Finger Brown?
    Frankie Frisch?
    We got Jeter, but no to the rest. Gibson joined Grove and Mathewson as the 3 pitchers who lost a 4-3 WS that would have put them into the same category.
    Last edited by Bothrops Atrox; 11-09-2011 at 06:57 AM.
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    Here is another hint - one guy is not a generally agreed upon HOFer. Most would consider him to be a mistake.

    The other two are all-timers.
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    Tris Speaker?
    Home Run Baker?

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    Phil Rizzuto?
    Manny Ramirez?
    Lefty Grove?

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    Lou Gehrig and Rickey Henderson?
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Johnny Evers?
    Joe Tinker?
    George Kelly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gee Walker View Post
    Tris Speaker?
    Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    None of the other answers are correct.
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    Eddie Collins?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew C. View Post
    Here is another hint - one guy is not a generally agreed upon HOFer. Most would consider him to be a mistake.
    Catfish Hunter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    Eddie Collins?


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    Bingo! One more to go; the "bordelrine at best" HOFer...
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    Lefty Gomez?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdTarbusz View Post
    Lefty Gomez?
    Nope.

    Here is another hint:

    He is a career NL guy and a Vet. Committee selection for the HOF. Not a bad player or horrific HOF selection, but certainly a "One of these things is not like the other" situations when compared to the other 11 gentlemen.
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    The infamous Rube Marquard?

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