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    Indians BBF HOF round 3

    This election will close on January 21, 2012, at 7:00 a.m EST.

    This is the first round for this franchise. The second round is here.

    We inducted the following players:
    Earl Averill
    Albert Belle
    Lou Boudreau
    Rocky Colavito
    Stan Coveleski
    Larry Doby
    Bob Feller
    Mel Harder
    Addie Joss
    Ken Keltner
    Napoleon Lajoie
    Bob Lemon
    Kenny Lofton
    Sam McDowell
    Gaylord Perry
    Manny Ramirez
    Al Rosen
    Joe Sewell
    Tris Speaker
    Early Wynn

    Now the contributors: voting concluded
    Mike Hargrove
    John Hart
    Al Lopez
    Bill Veeck


    PLEASE READ THE FORMAT AND RULES SECTION BEFORE VOTING. THANK YOU.

    FORMAT AND RULES

    Purpose: The purpose of this project is to create a Hall of Fame for each franchise whereby each franchise will honor those individuals whose contributions and accomplishments are most notable, significant, and enduring to that franchise's history. This project is not about simply honoring those with the best statistics with each franchise.

    Standards: Each franchise has its own unique history and context, and thus contributions and accomplishments that may stand out remarkably within one franchise's history, may not be so remarkable in another franchise's history. Standards from franchise to franchise will inherently vary, and thus there should be no impetus to create equal standards among the franchises or to aspire to the standards of the National Baseball Hall of Fame. Consequently, subjectivity within the context of the franchise in question will play an inevitable role when considering an individual's contributions and accomplishments with respect to that franchise. In sum, a franchise's Hall of Fame should be unaffected by the standards and contexts of other franchises as well as the National Baseball Hall of Fame, and should be entirely a product of its own history.

    Election Format: Elections will be conducted one franchise at a time starting in chronological order with the oldest continuously and currently operational franchise. Each election will last approximately five days.
    - Ballot Size: Voters can select up to 15 players and 5 contributors per election. There is no minimum ballot size.
    - Ballot Editing: To account for ongoing discussion, voters may edit their ballots as often as necessary through the end of an election.
    - Election Percentage: Any individual that is listed on at least 75% of either the player or contributor submitted ballots will be elected to that team's Hall of Fame. In instances where an individual receive votes as both a player and a contributor, that individual will be elected if listed on at least 75% of ballots in either category or if the individual's combined vote total is at least 75% of the category with the greatest number of ballots submitted. However, a minimum of six votes is required to elect a candidate.
    - Subsequent Rounds: After an election has been performed for each franchise, a second round of elections will commence, again proceeding in chronological order. A third round of elections (and perhaps beyond) may also be held depending on interest.

    Eligibility:
    - Players: Players may be considered by any currently operational franchise for which they appeared and are eligible either immediately upon officially retiring or after having not appeared at any level of professional baseball for an entire season for reasons not due to injury.
    - Contributors: Individuals that contributed in other capacities to a franchise may be considered, including managers, coaches, executives, owners, and broadcasters. Mascots are eligible. Contributors that are still active may only be elected by their current employing franchise, and cannot be considered by prior employing franchises until no longer active (this does not apply to individuals who are employed by a franchise only in nominal and/or non-integral ways, such as in scouting, consulting, or public relations capacities).
    - Multiple Capacities: The totality of contributions and accomplishments with respect to a franchise are to be considered, and thus an individual can only be elected once by a franchise. For purposes of ballot size limits, an individual should be designated either a player or contributor based on what the voter perceives to be the individual's greater role with the franchise. An individual should not be listed as either a player or contributor merely to facilitate ballot space for the other category.
    - Relocations/Renaming: Franchises that have relocated and/or been renamed, may still consider and elect individuals that were with the franchise prior to the relocation/renaming.
    - Multiple Franchises: An individual may be considered and elected by multiple franchises.


    Franchise History
    - Founded: 1901 (AL for entire existence)
    - Former Locations/Names: Cleveland Blues (1901), Cleveland Bronchos (1902), Cleveland Naps (1903-1914)

    Titles
    - World Series Championships: 2 (1920, 1948)
    - Pennants: 5 (1920, 1948, 1954, 1995, 1997)
    - Division Titles: 7 (1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2001, 2007)
    - Wild Card Berths: 0

    Helpful Links
    The following links are all courtesy of baseball-reference.com, baseball-almanac.com, and wikipedia.com, and may assist voters in determining an individual's impact on this franchise:
    - Franchise Almanac
    - All Batters
    - All Pitchers
    - Batting Leaders
    - Pitching Leaders
    - Most Common Positional Starters
    - Most Common Pitching Staff Alignments
    - Managers
    - Notable Owners and Executives
    - Notable Broadcasters

    Award Recipients
    - MVP Recipients (3): Al Rosen (1953), Lou Boudreau (1948), George Burns (1926)

    - Cy Young Recipients (3): Cliff Lee (2008), C.C. Sabathia (2007), Gaylord Perry (1972)

    - RoY Recipients (4): Sandy Alomar Jr (1990), Joe Charboneau (1980), Chris Chambliss (1971), Herb Score (1955)

    - Batting Triple Crown (0):

    - Pitching Triple Crown (1): Bob Feller (1940)

    Multiple All Star Selections (no adjustment for double selections for 1959-1962)
    Code:
    Rank 	Player			Selections
    t1	Lou Boudreau		8
    t1	Bob Feller		8
    t3	Larry Doby		7
    t3	Ken Keltner		7
    t3	Bob Lemon		7
    t6	Sandy Alomar Jr		6
    t6	Earl Averill		6
    t6	Sam McDowell		6
    t9	Jim Hegan		5
    t9	Kenny Lofton		5
    t11	Albert Belle		4
    t11	Rocky Colavito		4
    t11	Mel Harder		4
    t11	Vic Power		4
    t11	Manny Ramirez*		4
    t11	John Romano		4
    t11	Al Rosen		4
    t18	Roberto Alomar		3
    t18	Bobby Avila		3
    t18	Carlos Baerga		3
    t18	Gary Bell		3
    t18	Mike Garcia		3
    t18	Joe Gordon		3
    t18	Doug Jones		3
    t18	Victor Marinez*		3
    t18	Charles Nagy		3
    t18	C.C. Sabathia*		3
    t18	Grady Sizemore*		3
    t18	Jim Thome*		3
    t18	Omar Vizquel*		3
    t18	Early Wynn		3
    t32	Max Alvis		2
    t32	Jim Bagby		2
    t32	Dick Donovan		2
    t32	Ray Fosse		2
    t32	Frankie Hayes		2
    t32	Jeff Heath		2
    t32	Rollie Hemsley		2
    t32	George Hendrick		2
    t32	Brook Jacoby		2
    t32	Jim Kern		2
    t32	Harvey Kuenn		2
    t32	Dave LaRoche		2
    t32	Jose Mesa		2
    t32	Minnie Minoso		2
    t32	Dale Mitchell		2
    t32	Ray Narleski		2
    t32	Gaylord Perry		2
    t32	Herb Score		2
    t32	Dick Stigman		2
    t32	Johnny Temple		2
    t32	Andre Thornton		2
    	
    * Player is currently active
    Notable Managers (with at least 300 games managed with this franchise or at least one pennant win)
    Code:
    Manager			Games		Win %	WS Titles	Pennants	Div Titles	Wild Cards
    Bill Armour		431		.543
    Ken Aspromonte		480		.458
    Joe Birmingham		368		.471
    Lou Boudreau		1389		.529	1		1
    Pat Corrales		637		.441
    Alvin Dark		588		.453
    Doc Edwards		380		.455
    Lee Fohl		647		.513
    Dave Garcia		491		.503
    Joe Gordon		335		.549
    Mike Hargrove		1312		.550			2		5
    Walter Johnson		349		.516
    Napoleon Lajoie		700		.550
    Al Lopez		930		.617			1
    Charlie Manuel		410		.537					1
    Steve O’Neill		373		.496
    Roger Peckinpaugh	975		.505
    Frank Robinson		375		.496
    Tris Speaker		1139		.543	1		1
    Birdie Tebbetts		538		.518
    Jeff Torborg		358		.439
    Eric Wedge^		1134		.495					1
    	
    ^ Currently managing another franchise
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    My ballot:

    Bobby Avila
    Jim Bagby
    Bill Bradley
    Ray Chapman
    Wes Ferrell
    Elmer Flick
    Mike Garcia
    Joe Gordon
    Willis Hudlin
    Shoeless Joe Jackson
    Charles Nagy
    Luis Tiant
    Hal Trosky
    Terry Turner
    George Uhle
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    Jeff Heath
    Willis Hudlin
    Joe Jackson
    Charles Nagy
    Luis Tiant
    Hal Trosky
    Terry Turner
    George Uhle
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    Players:

    Bobby Avila

    Bill Bradley

    Elmer Flick

    Mike Garcia

    Willis Hudlin

    Joe Jackson

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    We've had a slow start to this election. Hopefully, things will pick up.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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    Players:

    Bobby Avila
    Ray Chapman
    Wes Ferrell
    Elmer Flick
    Joe Gordon
    Jose Mesa
    Luis Tiant
    Hal Trosky
    George Uhle

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    Roberto Alomar
    Sandy Alomar Jr.
    Bobby Avila
    Carlos Baerga
    Bill Bradley
    Elmer Flick
    Mike Garcia
    Joe Gordon
    Jeff Heath
    Joe Jackson
    Minnie Minoso
    Charles Nagy
    Vic Power
    John Romano
    Andre Thornton

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    We've got eight plus days to go, and right now, we need one more vote to be able to elect anyone, and three more would at least make it possible this franchise could go another round.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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    Bobby Avila
    Carlos Baerga
    Bill Bradley
    Tom Candiotti
    Ray Chapman
    Wes Ferrell
    Elmer Flick
    Mike Garcia
    Jeff Heath
    Willis Hudlin
    Joe Jackson
    Jose Mesa
    Charles Nagy
    Luis Tiant
    Hal Trosky
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    There's about 2 1/2 days left, and while we can elect someone, we need two more votes to have any chance of continuing the elections for this franchise.
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
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    This was the last round for the Indians, as we only mustered six votes. However, it was enough to elect a couple of candidates (the two with six votes):

    6 Avila, Bobby
    6 Flick, Elmer
    = ===========
    5 Bradley, Bill
    5 Garcia, Mike
    5 Jackson, Joe
    4 Chapman, Ray
    4 Ferrell, Wes
    4 Hudlin, Willis
    4 Nagy, Charles
    4 Tiant, Luis
    4 Trosky, Hal
    3 Gordon, Joe
    3 Heath, Jeff
    3 Uhle, George
    2 Baerga, Carlos
    2 Bagby, Jim
    2 Mesa, Jose
    2 Turner, Terry
    1 Alomar, Roberto
    1 Alomar, Sandy Jr
    1 Candiotti, Tom
    1 Minoso, Minnie
    1 Power, Vic
    1 Romano, John
    1 Thornton, Andre
    Seen on a bumper sticker: If only closed minds came with closed mouths.
    Some minds are like concrete--thoroughly mixed up and permanently set.
    A Lincoln: I don't think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.

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