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    That's a good point. Although isn't that more of a reason NOT to increase the number of games?

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    I would only increase the number of games if we have to field 10 teams rather than 12. that will force owners to use more marginal players and not skew statistics due to a higher concentration of star players.
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    With 100% PT, we'd also need bigger rosters to accommodate the increased amount of marginal players. I'd be kind of okay with it if we didn't have to drop guys who could be useful in the future to pick up worse players just to get through the season.

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    with 10 teams and rosters of 35 there are only 20 players who would not be drafted and believe me ..... those guys will not be useful in the futire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    --12 owners would be better, but if we only have 10 then perhaps a longer schedule requiring heavier use of your bench would be a solution to the talent concentration problem. For the early years I'm not sure that much of an issue with pitchers though. Teams used such short staffs that even with 10 teams it will strech the available talent to put together anything resembling a modern staff - and the game engine isn't set up to have guys going the distance 90% of the time like they did in 1901. That will be especially true if they are facing tougher lineups. Most teams in the deadball era only had 2-3 guys who could do any damage. With 10 or even 12 teams the lineups will pack alot more punch.
    But I sent Rich some info I got over at the DM forums, and it told how to adjust your pitchers so that they WILL perform more realistically for the early years. I think he followed the instructions and had some success in that area.
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    yes there are some things you can do to 'force' teams to keep their pitchers in longer. it stil depends greatly on how the managers run their teams though. In sims I ran where i set average pitch counts at around 140 I was able to get the starters to complete around 80% of their games which is close to real life 1901 numbers.
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    Another option that I don't think anyone has suggested yet would be to have 2 owners manage 2 teams to get to 12. It's not ideal but it would keep the format as originally designed until we could find 2 more owners.
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    Dan

    A lot of the guys in this league are already running 2 teams in CKL ... I know if I add another team along with the 2 CKL teams and running this league my wife may leave me forever lol
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    Are we going to have a trade-approval process?

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    I don't think so. We don't have one in place in CKL and there has never been a problem. Did you have something in mind?
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    I dunno - some leagues I've seen do it so you can't have one team punt this year in return for an insane advantage in the future (ie trading 3 aging stars for 3 young stars). MLB has an approval process.

    Also, are we going to have some sort of waiver system? I'd be against that idea.

    I can't remember off the top of my head... are we going to allow trading for draft picks? I believe CKL does, but I don't remember seeing it spelled out in the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    Dan

    A lot of the guys in this league are already running 2 teams in CKL ... I know if I add another team along with the 2 CKL teams and running this league my wife may leave me forever lol
    Geez, Rich, do you really think that would work?
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    I don't think so. We don't have one in place in CKL and there has never been a problem. Did you have something in mind?
    Actually, the commissioner has the authority to veto any trade that would prove detrimental to the league. I also seem to recall that there was proposed (and might even be) a committee to submit any questionable trades to,and I think I was on it. Guess that shows how few questionable trades we've had in the CKL - none to my knowledge. With largely the same group of owners, I expect that would continue.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Gentlemen - We are now at 12 teams. Thanks in large part to Jack's decision to join. I know I am speaking for everyone here when I say that this league will benefit greatly from his addition.
    Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    Gentlemen - We are now at 12 teams. Thanks in large part to Jack's decision to join. I know I am speaking for everyone here when I say that this league will benefit greatly from his addition.
    I agree completely. Jack is a great owner and a fine addition to this league.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    My team will be the Jamestown Express.

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    My team will be the Jamestown Express.

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    Better than The Jammers, eh Lew?

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    Since we are naming teams, I would like to name my team after a small city in Pennsylvania. The Asylum Inmates. Logo to be posted ASAP.
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    Better than The Jammers, eh Lew?
    Yeah, I think so. I thought about the Seawolves because I like that logo, but then I decided to design my own. Not so professional looking, but it's mine.

    For those not from this part of the county and not familiar with Jamestown's New-York Penn League entry, the Jamestown Jammers, I've included their logo below. Decide for yourselves. But if you're ever in this area, we do have a great ballpark and those short season A league kids give 110% because they want to be somewhere else some day. And for $5 for a reserved grand stand seat it's a pretty good deal, too.

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    Last edited by catcher24; 02-09-2012 at 03:46 PM.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Quote Originally Posted by buppers View Post
    Since we are naming teams, I would like to name my team after a small city in Pennsylvania. The Asylum Inmates. Logo to be posted ASAP.
    Ed
    Wow, if I had saved the logos from Scott Carter's old PAP League, I'd have one for you. That was one of the team names in that league. Was that you, Ed?
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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