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    Quote Originally Posted by buppers View Post
    Badgers make the following trades

    Tyrants: Renie Martin for Badgers 3rd in 81 and Dave Heaverlo
    Thunder: Gene Garber for Len Barker

    Ed
    Both trades are confirmed!
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    One thing I really missed in this draft was the added playing time in 1981. I was baffled when Lefebvre went in the 2nd round, but neglected to adjust his playing time for the strike-shortened season. It makes sense now. Ditto for Stapleton in the first, which makes even more sense when I considered that Ed is building for 1981.

    Some guys I think I rated lower than most:

    Albert Williams
    John Butcher
    Doug Corbett
    Luis Leal
    Tony Pena
    Tim Wallach
    Luis Salazar

    and a few I think I rated higher:

    Pascual Perez
    Mike Scioscia
    Jay Howell
    Andy Rincon
    Mike Boddicker

    Generally I think I'll favor one or two great years over four or five above average ones. That's why I would have taken Perez over Leal, Scioscia over Pena, etc.

    Also I wouldn't trade drafts with anyone but if I was absolutely forced to it'd probably be the Gamblers. Howe/Lynch/Charboneau/Rincon is a great haul.

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    --I'd guess this is the best draft in Gold Sox history anyway!

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    I got Tony Conigliaro, Steve Blass, Ken Sanders, and Randy Hundley in 1964, and 1967 was Bench, obviously. Still, this has got to be right up there. Definitely the best of the last decade.

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    The best Thunder draft had to be in 74: John Montefusco, Ed Figueroa, Jim Kern, Gary Lavelle, Larry Demery, Bruce Boisclair, Bill Almon, and Dave Moates. 1975 was pretty good too when we landed Jack Clark and Willie Randolph, but lacked the depth of the 74 haul.
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    I know most would look at Wallach as a bit of a reach but I was a big fan of his as a kid and 3B seems to always be hard for me to feel and I would have picked Pena there if I didn't go with Wallach and I have Bo Diaz who plays a couple seasons that overlapped Pena.

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    With the 48th pick in the 1980 first year player draft the Hard Cider select:
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    CF-Reid Nichols

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    --Nichols is a nice pick up in the 4th round. I had Wallach as a 1st rounder too. He was 14th on my board, but a bunch of guys were close enough that team need could easily lift a player half a dozen spots.

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    Wallach was a first rounder on my board. Not as high as you had him, but on closer examination I get it. 3B is a much harder position to fill than people generally realize, and Wallach fills it with a solid bat and great glove. Not really a reach at #6 at all.

    To kick off the fourth round, the Gold Sox will take Jack Perconte.


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    --I don't think there is much to criticize in this draft really. In the early years there were more head scrathers and you could hope to score players lower than you deserved, but all our owners do a good job of scouting now.
    --There were three guys drafted in the 1st that I had rated as 2nd rounders, Dave Smith, Joe Price and Bob Ojeda. Smith I do think was a reach, but on further review he looks more comparable to the top relievers than I originally thought and I tend to rate relievers lower than some anyway. Price and Ojeda were late 1st and there really wasn't much difference between the guys rated late 1st and early 2nd (big group of B+ prospects for me)
    --The top 1st rounders on my board who skipped were Lea and Leal and neither slipped very far (17 and 19). Leal is the toughest kind of player for me to rate in our league. Zero star power, but slightly above average quality and LOTS of IP for 4 years. Guys of Leal's quality are that hard to find in a given year in our league, but having one locked up for 4 years at a bargain rate definately helps. He was the best fit for what I hoped to do in this draft, but (as I mentioned earlier) the two big years of Boddicker were just too tempting for me to pass up.
    --I had Hubie Brooks as the biggest slip of the 2nd round, so kudos to the Skipjacks there. I think there was alot of drafting for need going on though and its tough to judge somebdoy elses call when you don't know what they are trying to accomplish. I made some need picks that may not look that good to an outside observer (and may not look good to me once they take the field ). Albert Williams is a poor man's Luis Leal. John Martin I'm just hoping to get one servicable season of SP out of and he is a LOOGY the rest of the time. Bruce Berenyi is the guy I was really high on - he actually excites me more than my first round target Leal - but I expect there is alot of variance for him on tother boards. I'd actually like some feedbackon that pick.

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    Dust Bunnies select Jerry Ujdur. Jack
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    Quote Originally Posted by leecemark View Post
    John Martin I'm just hoping to get one servicable season of SP out of and he is a LOOGY the rest of the time.
    I was high on Martin and would have picked him if I could have traded a future draft pick for one in this draft after I picked Milner. I think his numbers are strong and probably would have used him primarily as a reliever for his serviceable years.
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    I was kind of interested in Berenyi, but shied away primarily due to the walks. Had him ranked about where he went, though.

    Ujdur is a great pick and if Perconte was gone he'd have been mine. Perconte was too good to pass up, though.

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    I think Bruce Berenyi is going to be a good fit for the Knights. If his 81 season would've fit in the Tyrants' timeline, I definately would've taken him before you got him. And going back to the discussion on Wallach, I don't think he was a reach at all. In fact he was the other guy I took a long look at before I picked Moseby.

    I'm curious where did people have Vance Law rated? I struggled with that pick as I looked at several other guys, but most of them slid to the third round (Phelps, Howell, and Virgil) other than Berenyi.
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    Law was a second rounder on my board.

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    --I had Law as a late 2nd rounder. I liked Virgil better, but both my teams are set at catcher for the years he contributes.

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    With their first fourth round pick, the Skipjacks will select:


    Marty Bystrom

    The Skipjacks are interested in trading a future 4th round pick to select somewhere in the next five picks. PM me if the interest is mutual.

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    BTW Mark, will there be an updated FA list prior to the auction? I haven't actually seen one yet for this offseason.

    Also, we didn't draft Hubie Brooks; he went to the Hard Cider at pick #20. Our draft has been modest, picking quantity of playable seasons over quality of singular seasons. Though we're not high on drafting a setup man in round one, Gary Lucas provides much needed lefty help in the pen for the length of his rookie contract. Wally Backman gives us four useful seasons as a platoon infielder. Bystrom is a "Mac's playoff-ringer special" for this season (if we can get there) - if things look bad by the trade deadline you can expect him to be on the trade block for a late 3rd. Good news is he is also a good #5 pitcher for 1981, if you set rotation to skip.

    The best Skipjacks draft has to be 1974 top to bottom. Jim Rice, Kent Tekulve, John Denny, Al Cowens, Tom Johnson, Rick Sawyer... and the biggest amateur draft steal in team history, Warren Cromartie in Round 5. Sadly, we were only able to keep one of them with HTD rights this offseason.
    Last edited by J W; 02-22-2012 at 11:07 AM.

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    Thee 2 pitchers I was targeting late and Mark got them both. Breining and Williams. Could have too many pitchers for 1981 but better than not enough
    Last edited by buppers; 02-22-2012 at 02:14 PM.
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    I had Law ranked 15th on my board. I love versatility which is one of the reasons I picked up Nichols because in that 83 season he is rated at all 3 OF positions and SS which will save me a roster spot.

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