1901 Player Re-Draft Thread

[Wade8813]

Not surprised you were confused. I was thinking of the other new league I'm presently drafting for, which does have 14 teams. Oops. You are correct; even if Mark finishes first in 1901 Ed gets a top 12 pick in '02. Looking at next year's draft, I still think he'll come out on the short end, but again that's just one man's opinion.

Haha, wow. Way to give me a heart attack. I was starting to wonder if I'd misread the rules, and that there was "mini round" or something for the worst 4 teams.

If you were offering a second baseman, we might be able to work something out.

Shortstops can play 2B (although I don't know how the defense will translate). But anyone interested, shoot me a PM.

[buppers]

I could use a Shortstop. Have anything particular in mind?

[leecemark]

--Well there are no guarentees with any strategy. I didn't really even have one to start with. I was just picking the best player on the board when my turn came up. My first 5 picks are all good players for at least 5 years, two of them for 6 and one for 8. However, every one of them has their best year in 1901, so win now seemed the sensible way to go. If say 1904 or 1905 had been the best combined year of my first wave of draftees I would have taken a diffenet approach.
--That said I didn't really abandon the future to win now. I have 9 guys who will be significant contributors in 1904, 8 in 1905 and 3 in 1906. I haven't really tracked theother teams that far into the future (really only have a clear picture of this year and 1902), but I doubt that many have more players locked in further. I'm pretty sure I won't have an advantage in the Cobb sweepstakes of 1905 because I hope to still be contending in 1904 (plans could change of course depending on how I'm stacking up with the compettition heading into that offseason).

[catcher24]

The Dragons are set for more seasons than the Express, that's for sure. With of course fewer picks, which makes a difference, I have one guy (Wagner) that contributes through 1907; two in 1906; five in 1905; and seven in 1904. Of course, those extra draft picks I'll get in 1902 and 1903 could help close that gap!

[Wade8813]

I could use a Shortstop. Have anything particular in mind?

I'll send you a PM.

--Well there are no guarentees with any strategy. I didn't really even have one to start with. I was just picking the best player on the board when my turn came up. My first 5 picks are all good players for at least 5 years, two of them for 6 and one for 8. However, every one of them has their best year in 1901, so win now seemed the sensible way to go. If say 1904 or 1905 had been the best combined year of my first wave of draftees I would have taken a diffenet approach.
--That said I didn't really abandon the future to win now. I have 9 guys who will be significant contributors in 1904, 8 in 1905 and 3 in 1906. I haven't really tracked theother teams that far into the future (really only have a clear picture of this year and 1902), but I doubt that many have more players locked in further. I'm pretty sure I won't have an advantage in the Cobb sweepstakes of 1905 because I hope to still be contending in 1904 (plans could change of course depending on how I'm stacking up with the compettition heading into that offseason).

I took maximum contract lengths for my first 6 picks, although some of them may have been kinda iffy whether I should have or not.

The Dragons are set for more seasons than the Express, that's for sure. With of course fewer picks, which makes a difference, I have one guy (Wagner) that contributes through 1907; two in 1906; five in 1905; and seven in 1904. Of course, those extra draft picks I'll get in 1902 and 1903 could help close that gap!

Are you trying to confuse me again? Didn't Dragon trade with the Inmates, and the Spiders trade with the Tigers and Kumquats? You seem to have made all your picks each round...

[BigRon]

Slow day on the drafting front.

[scubadan]

Slow day on the drafting front.

I show New Orleans on the clock until 8:55 pm (EDT).

[scubadan]

Everyone looking at their rosters through the first few seasons of the league prompted me to do the same and my team may not be as strong as I had hoped. Using 5 measurement bands (similar to DMB), I looked at OPS+ and ERA+ for the next four years at each position. I averaged platoons together and estimated at the value of the player I'll draft to fill some holes. I considered a + number less than 70 to be PR, between 70-90 is FR, 90-110 is AV, 110-130 is VG and 130+ is EX. M

For my batters I have 2 EX, 3 VG and 3 AV for 1901 and 1902. 1903 drops back to 2 EX, 1 VG and 5 AV and 1904 is 2/2/4.

My 4 starting pitchers are much worse. In 1901 the split between EX/VG/AV is 1/1/2, in 1902 it is 1/1/0, 1903 is 1/0/0 and 1904 is 0/1/0. It looks like I've built my typical franchise; good enough to be competitive but not good enough to run with the big dogs.

I realize that this doesn't include WHIP or defense but it's a bit disappointing considering I gave up some of my future to get this.

[Wade8813]

I REALLY hope they differentiate things more than that. Because Cy Young isn't so great if his league leading 217 ERA+ falls under the EX category along with some schmoe who had 131 ERA+

Any idea what happened? If you can figure out what you did wrong (if indeed you did something wrong), maybe you can figure out how to fix it in the future.

[Erik Bedard]

yeah, DM uses a whole lot more than just five measurement bands for most things. but just like in real life, pitching is really tricky to figure out: you can't just look at ERA+ and expect it to be reproduced. you need to look at defense, BIP rates, and numerous other things.

using Dan's method, though, here's what I've got by position through 1905 (each is 01/02/03/04/05, rating players at the most valuable position they are rated at):

c: Fr/Vg/Ex/--/Ex
1b: Ex/--/--/--/--
2b: Ex/Pr/Av/Vg/Vg
3b: --/--/--/--/--
ss: --/--/--/Ex/--
lf: Ex/Vg/Vg/Vg/Vg
cf: Vg/Vg/Av/Ex/Av
rf: Ex/Vg/Ex/Vg/Ex
dh: --/Ex/Ex/Vg/--

sp1: Ex/Vg/Fr/Vg/Vg
sp2: Av/Fr/Fr/Vg/Av
sp3: Av/Fr/Fr/Fr/Fr
sp4: Fr/--/--/--/--

[Windy City Fan]

John Dobbs and Mike O'Neil

[jaybird_1981]

John Dobbs and Mike O'Neil

O'Neil was already drafted.

[Sockeye]

I believe that puts the Bums on the clock.

[BigRon]

The Lighthouse Point Bums will take Ollie Pickering for 4 years.

sorry- the Kalamazoo Kumquats (dust bunnies/Jack) are up.

[dust bunnies]

The Kalamazoo Kumquats selectd Bill Phillips and sign him to a three year contract.

[rmadachik]

The Cleveland Spiders select

Cozy Dolan - for 4 years
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Tennessee On the clock

[Windy City Fan]

Give me Watty Lee then.

[jaybird_1981]

In the 12th round the Tennessee Pioneers select:
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2B-Dick Padden

[jaybird_1981]

4-Yr contract for Padden

[scubadan]

I would like to pick up a draft pick between now (#137) and #146. Will trade a #2 pick in 1902 and my 28th pick in 1901.

[Sockeye]

I have to take off and won't return home until tomorrow. I left a proxy list with Jack. Good day everyone

[rmadachik]

Ummm, sorry to disagree Rich, but I executed every trade of draft picks in DM, and it worked great. It showed the pick's original team, and then the team that currently owned the pick. You simply forgot to ask the DM master....

No harm done though. I'll simply sign them to each team individually now. My only reason was, and I'm not sure this happens, but I think the encyclopedia keeps a record of the draft if you do it through the program.

Well now that I know it can be done .... I figured it out and all future updates will include draftpicks.

[leecemark]

--Seattle selects catcher Duke Farrell and signs him to a 3 year deal.
--Anahiem on the clock.

[rmadachik]

I am full of anticipation waiting to see who Gary will select as his first position player

[scubadan]

I am full of anticipation waiting to see who Gary will select as his first position player

...and he couldn't even be here to make it himself. Besides, he was probably bluffing and will take another pitcher.