1901 Player Re-Draft Thread

[catcher24]

I'm not so sure having the first pick was that great a deal. Having Wagner is nice, but now I'm waiting forever to get another pick and all of the best guys are quickly disappearing. I was hoping either Chesbro or McGinnity would make it to me, since after them the pitching suddenly takes a pretty steep drop off. Guess I'll just have to deal with what's left.

[jaybird_1981]

I'm not so sure having the first pick was that great a deal. Having Wagner is nice, but now I'm waiting forever to get another pick and all of the best guys are quickly disappearing. I was hoping either Chesbro or McGinnity would make it to me, since after them the pitching suddenly takes a pretty steep drop off. Guess I'll just have to deal with what's left.

I would trade Flick & Chesbro for Wagner and your next pick if that would work better for you? .

[Wade8813]

I'm not so sure having the first pick was that great a deal. Having Wagner is nice, but now I'm waiting forever to get another pick and all of the best guys are quickly disappearing. I was hoping either Chesbro or McGinnity would make it to me, since after them the pitching suddenly takes a pretty steep drop off. Guess I'll just have to deal with what's left.

According to BBRef's WAR, Wagner was basically 2 picks. The fact that you get another guy this round is almost just gravy.

For my pick, I'll take Fielder Jones for the full 8 years

[Erik Bedard]

The Richmond Rams select Topsy Hartsel for the full eight years.

[jaybird_1981]

The Richmond Rams select Topsy Hartsel for the full eight years.

Nice pick I almost took him with my last pick but I didn't want to go with two OF's back to back.

[leecemark]

6 years is the max contract for round 2

[BigRon]

6 years is the max contract for round 2

Actually, 8 years is allowed in round 2, according to the rules. 6 year max kicks in in round 3.

[leecemark]

--Well that wouldn't have changed my pick, but there must be some conflicting direction between threads. The rules thread says up to 6 years for rounds 2-5. Rich, could you please clarify.

[catcher24]

The sheet I printed out, which I think may have been sent separately, does say that for rounds 1 and 2 the contract can be up to eight years. Rounds 3-5, up to six years; 6-10 up to five years; 11 - 15 up to four years and everything after that up to three years.

Actually, I just copied the following from Post #2 in the Rules thread:

Contract lengths will be as follows

Round 1-2 - up to 8 years
Round 3-5 - up to 6 years
Round 6-10 - up to 5 years
Round 11-15 - up to 4 years
Round 16-30 - up to 3 years

For the first draft you will need to choose contract lengths at the time your pick is made. Players drafted in round 1 and 2 are eligible to be assigned RFA status. If an owner wants his first or 2nd round pick to be eligible for restricted free agency they must declare so at the time they make the pick. At that point that players contract will be for 5 years.

[catcher24]

I would trade Flick & Chesbro for Wagner and your next pick if that would work better for you? .

Nah, sometimes I just like to whine. It's probably because it's just been so long since we started and I've had a pick at all.

[scubadan]

It's getting tougher to make a pick now. I'll take Deacon Phillippe for 7 years.

[leecemark]

The sheet I printed out, which I think may have been sent separately, does say that for rounds 1 and 2 the contract can be up to eight years. Rounds 3-5, up to six years; 6-10 up to five years; 11 - 15 up to four years and everything after that up to three years.

Actually, I just copied the following from Post #2 in the Rules thread:

Contract lengths will be as follows

Round 1-2 - up to 8 years
Round 3-5 - up to 6 years
Round 6-10 - up to 5 years
Round 11-15 - up to 4 years
Round 16-30 - up to 3 years

For the first draft you will need to choose contract lengths at the time your pick is made. Players drafted in round 1 and 2 are eligible to be assigned RFA status. If an owner wants his first or 2nd round pick to be eligible for restricted free agency they must declare so at the time they make the pick. At that point that players contract will be for 5 years.

--Ah, I was quoting the wrong thread. Post 2 of the offseason thread is the one that says rounds 2-5 are up to 6 years. Still need a clarification from Rich, but since people have already drafted based on the longer availability I would say that the 8 year max for this round is the one that needs to be in effect.

[rmadachik]

sorry guys. I changed the length of contracts for 2nd rounders when we decided to make players eligible for RFA in rounds 1 and 2. the posting in the rules thread is correct - 8 rounds for round 1 and 2

I neglected to change the post in the offseason thread

[buppers]

OK Lew you can quit your whining. Asylum Inmates take OF Roy Hobbs - we mean Roy Thomas and keep him for the full 8 seasons.

Lew, now you can make your 2 picks and hurry up so I can go again

[leecemark]

--Well you won't have to worry about who'se leading off for a long time anyway ;0

[rmadachik]

One great thing about the earlier seasons is that there were a lot of full time players who had major gaps in their careers during the early 1900's. So in 1902 thru 1904 there will be a pool of quality starters who will be available as free agents because they were not in the league during the 1901 season and would not be eligible for drafting. . . . guys like Button Briggs, and Patsy Flaherty will be high end free agents in the seasons before our initial draft players contracts run out.

[catcher24]

With their second round pick, the Express owners are looking for a player good at getting on base for Honus. They believe that this player's .394 OBP over the next three seasons fills the need. The Express select:

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JIMMY SHECKARD

The Express will sign Sheckard to a five year, RFA eligible contract for 10M.

[catcher24]

To kick off the third round, the Express feel that it is time to start building a pitching staff. The Express were somewhat suprised that this pitcher made it this far into the draft and are pleased to select:

willis.jpg

VIC WILLIS

Willis will be signed to a six year, 8M dollar contract.

[rmadachik]

I had Willis pegged as a 2nd round talent for sure. Great pickup there

[jaybird_1981]

Yeah shocked Willis dropped as I was choosing between him and Chesbro earlier.

[Erik Bedard]

Willis was the top pitcher on my board but I wanted Hartsel more. Sheckard was a guy I was really hoping to get in the next round. Phillippe was another pitcher I had really high.

[Wade8813]

One great thing about the earlier seasons is that there were a lot of full time players who had major gaps in their careers during the early 1900's. So in 1902 thru 1904 there will be a pool of quality starters who will be available as free agents because they were not in the league during the 1901 season and would not be eligible for drafting. . . . guys like Button Briggs, and Patsy Flaherty will be high end free agents in the seasons before our initial draft players contracts run out.

What exactly is the rule on that - they had to have played no games in '01?

[buppers]

Inmates take P Bill Donovan

[rmadachik]

hick.jpgThe Indians select - Charlie Hickman

[leecemark]

--Hickman was the single biggest "unknown star" I found in my scouting. He was first on my draft board with a bullet. Big bat who can play all over the diamond. Sorry I missed out on you Piano Legs!