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[shake-n-bake]

Last one...this kid if he can figure out the THR thing might have a future in the game....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qnb5uFNLY9U

[shake-n-bake]

Hey "Shake".......don't forget about this guy!!

Love Vlad. Even being the Ms killer he was with Anaheim. Eminem's not too bad either.

[mudvnine]

Lots of vid available with Bryce Harper holding on with both.

Why yes there is......

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[Onebigwhitevan]

Did you miss the "*exaggerated" disclaimer?

Actually , YES!!! DOH!! That fine print!! Gets me everytime.

[tradosaurus]

Pujols and Harper illustrate why top hand release is an option. Pujols is successful with it and Harper is successful without it.

But, man, just think how much farther Harper could hit if he practice with top hand release?

[mudvnine]

Pujols and Harper illustrate why top hand release is an option. Pujols is successful with it and Harper is successful without it.

But, man, just think how much farther Harper could hit if he practice with top hand release?

Don't think he didn't give it a try......

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.....looks like he didn't share your thoughts on that further thing.

[dominik]

top hand release is important? really?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS7Iq_I0i6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJrEGOrzz9U

those two are by far the best hitters of all time. no one even comes close. I am not saying it is bad (although I would not teach it to kids because it can promote a lead arm sweep and not opening the hips-I would allow this only to older kids who have learned to open their hips).

I think it also depends on location. against an outside pitch releasing might help not pulling off the ball and on an inside pitch holding on might be better.

A THR is not bad but if a hitter cannot hit without one he often this is an indiction of problems often with hip rotation (because a THR allows more flexibility and thus getting around without opening the hips-if you hold on you will have a hard time if you just rotate the shoulders).

[Jake Patterson]

You should explain how Lau in the Art of Hitting .300 suggests for players to swing level and not to uppercut (pg 112) and yet Williams is a proponent of swinging slightly up.

Having listened to Lau several times at different conferences- I would offer there is much about the swing he did not know.

[tradosaurus]

Having listened to Lau several times at different conferences- I would offer there is much about the swing he did not know.

Charlie Lau must have rubbed you the wrong way sometime in the past.

Lau knew so little about hitting that George Brett said

"What did the Lau System mean to me? After some experimentation and refinement, we came up with a stance and hitting approach for me that worked. And little did I realize at the time what it was going to do and how it was going to change my life. I've never looked back."

Here is a NY Daily news article from 2007 that will surely make you grind your teeth. Please ignore the top hand release in the pictures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.267002

Maybe you should actually read Lau's Laws on hitting before you start trashing one of the Genius' of baseball.

[mudvnine]

Charlie Lau must have rubbed you the wrong way sometime in the past.

Lau knew so little about hitting that George Brett said


Here is a NY Daily news article from 2007 that will surely make you grind your teeth. Please ignore the top hand release in the pictures.
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/ba...ticle-1.267002

Maybe you should actually read Lau's Laws on hitting before you start trashing one of the Genius' of baseball.

Here, I knew we would find this eventually.......

How do you reconcile this stuff......that is quoted and posted from Charley's book?

Tell me how that stuff should be understood and where it is seen in current MLB swings, and I might go out and by his book; but until someone can do that, I don't plan on wasting my money on anymore "genius" baseball stuff.

Besides, if you were such a fan of his, ya think you'd at least spell his name correctly.

[tradosaurus]

Charlie
Charly
Charley
Charlee
You say tomatoe I say tomato.

[Jake Patterson]

Trade,
I've read the book (several times), sat with Lau, listen to his diatribe/debates/conversations. See below...

(Note: some of this post is from an old thread mentioned above by Mud....)

P53. "A good level swing puts your hands right in the strike zone while the meat of the bat ends up over the opposite batter's box." Ignoring the mistaken notion of the level swing, the thing to notice about this picture...


Look at the way in which Brett hit the ball during a game... IMHO it looks nothing like the above. Swinging level is old and bad advise typically given by people who do not understand what it is they see...
Few are at the "Power V" at contact.

P79. He shows a picture of George Brett swinging level to the ground and extended and making the Power V.



To make it clear to the reader what they should take away from this picture, Charley Sr. writes "Notice that only now, at the 'moment of contact'..." which makes it clear that he means that this (extended and making the Power V) is what a batter should look like at the POC.

Finally, based on the words that accompany this picture of Al Kaline on page 107...



...which I think shows a pretty much perfect position at the point of contact, you can see from Charley Lau Sr.'s words why people think he advocated extension and the Power V at the point of contact. About this photo, Charley Lau Sr. says on page 106...

For this to be a good swing, Al would have had to hit the ball more out in front of the plate. As it is, I think he may have been fooled a bit on the pitch. When he realized the ball was low and in, he had to go down to get it. And to do that he had to pull his left arm in, making it impossible to get full extension.

[Jake Patterson]

Charlie Lau must have rubbed you the wrong way sometime in the past.

What rubbed me the wrong way was how absolute he (and his son) was in his belief that a good swing was level to the ground...

[tradosaurus]

I think we are talking about two different books. Those pictures don't look familiar from "Lau's Laws on Hitting". Are the pictures from "The Art of Hitting .300"?

But the last sentence you posted is true. One characteristic of a good swing is hitting the ball more out in front of the plate. I've noticed this from swing analysis of MLB hitters.

[tradosaurus]

What rubbed me the wrong way was how absolute he (and his son) was in his belief that a good swing was level to the ground...

Again that's news to me. I think Ted Williams had it right; swing level with the travel of the ball.