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    "El Hombre"

    Pujols doesn't want the Angels to use "El Hombre" in any capacity as not to disrespect Stan Musial. Classy move if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluesky5 View Post
    Pujols doesn't want the Angels to use "El Hombre" in any capacity as not to disrespect Stan Musial. Classy move if you ask me.
    Sadly all the news outlets are spinning the headlines so that it seems like a racial issue...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zito75 View Post
    Sadly all the news outlets are spinning the headlines so that it seems like a racial issue...
    ^^^^ This...

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    Pujols seems to be much more in touch with the glorious history of the game than most players today.

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    I wish the St. Louis media would just move on already...
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    I have not seen them but I heard the billboards are up with the advertising of "El Hombre"

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    What does El Hombre mean? I don't speak French.
    Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

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    It means "overripe avocado"
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    I'm surprised the Angels' marketing dept. wasn't aware of Pujols' stance on this. Somebody should have checked with him first. Now they look really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UnderPressure View Post
    What does El Hombre mean? I don't speak French.
    Ha.
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    It means "overripe avocado"
    Haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol' aches and pains View Post
    I'm surprised the Angels' marketing dept. wasn't aware of Pujols' stance on this. Somebody should have checked with him first. Now they look really stupid.
    I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
    Money doesn't always and shouldn't trump respect. Especially for men like Musial. A "God" of the game and all time good guy. If Pujols can bring attention to guys like Musial while showing his respect more power to him, imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    I generally like Pujols, and I think his heart is in the right place, but I think he's in the wrong here. He just signed a $254 million contract that's going to pay him huge amounts of money annually, even when he is well past his prime. The Angels should be doing everything in their power from a marketing perspective to try to receive a return on their massive investment before the inevitable decline. If they think they can sell a bunch of El Hombre t-shirts to their hispanic fans, then so be it. Pujols shouldn't be dictating to management which marketing materials he approves of and which he doesn't. Take your money and shut up.
    They're paying the man $25 million dollars a year to perform. That means keeping him happy. His happiness is more important than the ideas of some easily replacable back office marketing tools.

    They shouldn't need to "create" hype for Pujols, they should let what he has done do the talking and if the Angels fans were actually baseball fans or can't see what a player like Pujols brings to the table they wouldn't need made up nicknames and campaigns the player they're promoting does not like.

    It is definitely in Pujols's best interest in how he's marketed. And it's in the Angles best interests to keep their star aprised of what's going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Cold Nose View Post
    It is definitely in Pujols's best interest in how he's marketed. And it's in the Angles best interests to keep their star aprised of what's going on.
    I can't believe the Angels' Marketing people didn't know about this, I knew about it, most people here probably knew about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog19 View Post
    I wish the St. Louis media would just move on already...
    I saw this story on national outlets several times but no locally yet at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew C. View Post
    I saw this story on national outlets several times but no locally yet at all.
    he didn't like being called "el hombre" in st louis either

    here is the ad
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...imes+-+Sports)

    http://angels.ocregister.com/2012/02...hombre/116829/
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    Quote Originally Posted by drdg View Post
    he didn't like being called "el hombre" in st louis either
    here is the ad
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...imes+-+Sports)

    http://angels.ocregister.com/2012/02...hombre/116829/
    yeah he said there is only one "the man" which is stan musial.
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    The "City of Angels" ads in the LA city limits are also back. Arte is a real-life troll.
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    Using a stolen chant from Boston Celtics fans whenever an L.A. team is playing up there just reeks of inferiority complex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominik View Post
    yeah he said there is only one "the man" which is stan musial.
    Indeed.


    Suggesting Pujols should shut up take his money and allow the team and local media to use a nickname he believes disrespects a friend of his, a Presidential Medal of Honor Winner and a man tagged by then Commissioner "Baseball's Perfect Warrior, Baseball's Perfect Knight" is beyond ridiculous.

    Albert will handle it. He's a good guy and if he doesn't want to be called something, it will happen. Go get em Albert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drdg View Post
    he didn't like being called "el hombre" in st louis either

    here is the ad
    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...imes+-+Sports)

    http://angels.ocregister.com/2012/02...hombre/116829/
    Yeah, I know...I live here.

    I was referring to the idea that "St. Louis needed to move on." This wasn't a St. louis driven story, so I am not sure what the poster was referencing.
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    I see this two ways:

    1) Albert has long said "The Man" belongs to Stan Musial. I completely respect him for that. He was very adamant about that while he was in St. Louis.
    2) Now that he is with the Angels in a large hispanic community, I think the name fits him pretty well. I think he should take it for what it is and go with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew C. View Post
    I was referring to the idea that "St. Louis needed to move on." This wasn't a St. louis driven story, so I am not sure what the poster was referencing.
    So you apparently do not read STLToday? You don't listen to the radio? Watch the local news? Maybe this particular thing has not been on there, but Albert sure is and I wish they'd just move on. Time for some Cardinal Baseball!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog19 View Post
    So you apparently do not read STLToday? You don't listen to the radio? Watch the local news? Maybe this particular thing has not been on there, but Albert sure is and I wish they'd just move on. Time for some Cardinal Baseball!
    The national media broke the story - not STL. It was on ESPN.com early in the day and on ESPN in the afternoon. I did say that it was nationally driven, I did not say that it was ignored locally all-together. Plus, it was not on any of the local news stations, unless it came on at the 10:00 news. It was not on at 5 or 6. And no, I do not read STL Today or listen to the windbags on local call-in radio.
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    THIS story might have been broken nationally. But him showing up for spring training articles being written by St. Louis journalists?

    Or 93.7 The Bull has a radio ad going right now about how you could "make big money like Albert" ad nauseum...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bulldog19 View Post
    THIS story might have been broken nationally. But him showing up for spring training articles being written by St. Louis journalists?

    Or 93.7 The Bull has a radio ad going right now about how you could "make big money like Albert" ad nauseum...
    Yeah, Albert in LA spring training has been a big story, but I didn't know you were talking about the whole Albert thing in general.
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