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    2012 Phillies Season Thread

    A new basbeall season always makes me happy. Feel free to discuss the 2012 Phillies season here.


    Put it in the books.

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    Not really about the 2012 season but I thought you'd like this short article on the Phanatic:
    http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/122483
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    Looks like Phillies fans can expect a lot of one-run games this year with their diminished offense since Howard and Utley are out indefinitely.
    To win the World Series they are going to have to pattern themselves after the 1965 Los Angeles Dodgers .......Great Pitching and just enough offense to pull out close, low-scoring games.

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    I wish Manuel would play a radically aggressive brand of small ball until Howard gets back. Rather than have Rollins and Pence try to be the HR hitters.

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    So far, I'd definitely fault the job GM Ruben Amaro did this offseason, particularly in assembling the bench. The Phillies roster looks like a jumble - a jigsaw puzzle whose pieces don't fit together correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philliesfiend55 View Post
    So far, I'd definitely fault the job GM Ruben Amaro did this offseason, particularly in assembling the bench. The Phillies roster looks like a jumble - a jigsaw puzzle whose pieces don't fit together correctly.
    Agreed. Ugh.

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    Cliff Lee has been placed on the disabled list.
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    For the last three years the Phillies only seem to have one backup plan when starting pitchers get hurt - Kyle Kendrick.
    He's done okay, but can't they give some minor leaguers a chance once in a while.

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    Roy Halladay has been excused from the Phillies due to a personal family issue.

    Halladay was blasted for eight runs in just 5 1/3 innings Wednesday against the Braves, and it's safe to wonder whether his mind was elsewhere during that start. The Phillies haven't explained exactly why the 34-year-old is absent, but they're insisting that he is fully healthy. Halladay will presumably return to the team in time for his next scheduled start. He has a 3.40 ERA on the year.

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    Kyle Kendrick is terrible.
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    SAVERY DOWN/ DIEKMAN UP?
    LHP Joe Savery was demoted to Lehigh Valley (AAA) today. With an off day today the Phillies don't have to replace him until tomorrow May 11.
    Most Likely candidate to join the Phillies: Left-handed relief pitcher Jake Diekman, 25, who has been great at Lehigh Valley. If recalled, his first Phillies appearence would be his MLB debut.

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    Actually the demotion of LHP Joe Savery was just the overture of a series of moves that brought on board four new players who had no prior experience with the Phils.
    Added from minors : Friday - INF-Hector Luna, LHP Jake Diekman, LHP - Raul Valdes and Saturday (Today) INF-Mike Fontenot.
    Demoted to Lehigh Valley (AAA): Thursday LHP Joe Savery. Friday RHP- Brian Sanches - Saturday C- Eric Kratz.
    Placed on Disabled List (Friday) - OF-1B Laynce Nix
    Transferred from 15 Day Disabled List to 60 Day DL - RHP- Justin De Fratus.
    Also on Friday Outfielder Scott Podsednik, who made a strong. but unsuccessful attempt to make the Phillies in Spring training, was sold to the Boston Red Sox.
    Last edited by philliesfiend55; 05-12-2012 at 10:07 AM.

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    DL's getting crowded

    The Phillies 15 day DL now consists of: 1B Ryan Howard, 1B Jim Thome, 2B Chase Utley, OF-1B Laynce Nix, RHP Mike Stutes, and RHP- Justin DeFratus (60 Days).

    May 16 - Add right handed starting pitcher Vance Worley to the15 Day DL.
    Phillies 2011 Rule 5 Pick, INF-OF Michael Martinez has been placed on the 60-Day disabled list with J.De Fratus.
    Last edited by philliesfiend55; 05-16-2012 at 04:46 PM.

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    GREAT DEBUT FOR DIEKMAN

    Jacob "Jake" Diekman was called up to the Phillies on May 11. After getting "The Call" he became a rather highly paid spectator for four days as Phillies starters all turned in nearly-route going performances before turning games over to Closer Jonathan Papelbon. Finally with Papelbon overworked, the young lefty reliever finally got the opportunity to make his major leagues debut...and it came in a critical situation. Diekman confessed after the May 15 game in Philadelphia that he thought "they'd probably use me in a 4 or 5 run lead situation" for his major leagues debut. Quite Logical, but just the opposite occured. When reliever Chad Qualls blew a Save in the top of the ninth and the game had turned into a 3-3 tie with Houston, with two outs and runners on second and third base, Diekman finally was summoned from the bullpen. He struck out the batter to get the Phillies out of that inning still tied. In the top of the tenth Diekman was perfect getting an infield pop out followed by two more strikeouts with his sharp breaking ball and a 95 MPH fastball.. Hunter Pence then lined a home run in the bottom of the tenth to make Diekman the winning pitcher.
    Diekman's first appearence was a debut not soon to be forgotten by the Citizens Bank Park faithful.
    Last edited by philliesfiend55; 05-16-2012 at 08:52 AM.

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    I just saw some video from Diekman's debut. Two of the third strike pitches broke into the dirt. Carlos Ruiz had to scoop them up and throw to first base to complete the strikeouts. To say Diekman's stuff is "lively" doesn't begin to describe it.

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    Jim Thome activated, Pete Orr demoted.

    Jim Thome was activated from the disabled List for tonight's home game Vs. the Los angeles Dodgers. he has been out since the final few days of April. Utility Infielder, Pete Orr who had been with the Phillies since Opening Day was sent to Lehigh Valley (AAA).
    Thome's activation comes just in time for a 9-Game, Interleague road trip to American League cities where the Phillies plan to use Thome as the Designated Hitter in most of those games.

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    Chad Qualls is terrible.
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    LHP - Jeremy "Plowboy" Horst has looked very good since his recall this week in two scoreless apperences. Looks like a big midwestern plowboy - a young Jim Thome.
    Horst and Brian Sanches were brought up to bolster the pitching staff after Joe savery was demoted to AAA and Chad Qualls was Designated for assignment. Among position players, OF Jason Pridie (joining the roster today, July 1) and C-Eric Kratz have been added to the roster in the wake of a disabling injury to C - Brian Schneider and the trade of PH - Jim Thome for two minor leaguers .
    When Pridie plays his first game as a Phillie that will mean 13 players have made their team debuts for the Phillies this season and it's only the mid-point of the season. Last year the number of new players making their Phillies' team debuts for the entire season was 11.
    Last edited by philliesfiend55; 07-01-2012 at 10:43 AM.

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    so Philly is a seller not a buyer now?


    damn

    Cliff Lee deal looks horrible now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackout View Post
    so Philly is a seller not a buyer now?


    damn

    Cliff Lee deal looks horrible now
    Who can they sell tho? Victorino and Blanton wouldn't be bad to move. Other than that, who? Hamels, maybe. Utley, Howard, Rollins, Pence, Ruiz, Hallday, Papelbon, Worley aren't going anywhere.

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    There's a lot of guys besides Hamels who are being mentioned as possible trade bait by the July 31 deadline, with new names being thrown out every few days.
    Among those players who fans and writers conjecture may not be with the team after the deadline are Blanton, Victorino, Polanco, and undeservedly so Juan Pierre, who took a major salary cut and signed a minor league contract with the Phillies this Winter and has done nothing but exceed all expectations as a hitter and base stealer and provided hustle and displayed some of the only signs of life for this year's Phillies team. He has busted his butt since Day One of Spring Training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by philliesfiend55 View Post
    There's a lot of guys besides Hamels who are being mentioned as possible trade bait by the July 31 deadline, with new names being thrown out every few days.
    Among those players who fans and writers conjecture may not be with the team after the deadline are Blanton, Victorino, Polanco, and undeservedly so Juan Pierre, who took a major salary cut and signed a minor league contract with the Phillies this Winter and has done nothing but exceed all expectations as a hitter and base stealer and provided hustle and displayed some of the only signs of life for this year's Phillies team. He has busted his butt since Day One of Spring Training.
    Well, if they're sellers, the object is to find what will bring some value to you. Pierre is not young, so he's not part of the future, and if he can bring some future value, he's a logical move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jalbright View Post
    Well, if they're sellers, the object is to find what will bring some value to you. Pierre is not young, so he's not part of the future, and if he can bring some future value, he's a logical move.
    Understood. - Pierre has surprised critics with a good offensive season. He's probably guaranteed that some MLB team will employ him for the next couple of years based on the fact that he's hit around .320 most of the season and his running game has been most surprising with 20 SB in 23 attempts, an .870 SB success rate. It reminds me of the year the Phils had an aging Kenny Lofton, who had a good year for them and showed he still could play at a fairly high level. He then went on to play a few more years with other teams before calling it a career.
    One of Pierre's best attributes is his durability. Despite all the sliding he does when stealing bases, he simply doesn't get hurt. In 2010-11 he played in 318 of the Chicago White Sox' 324 games. He'll miss a higher percentage of games this year, but that is only because MGR Charlie Manuel will prefer to use the right handed hitting John Maybeery Jr. against some pitchers. Pierre has been available to play in every Phillies games this season but didn't play in about 12 or 13 games this year by manager's decision.
    Last edited by philliesfiend55; 07-05-2012 at 10:51 AM.

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    The Phillies failed to sign second round pick, Alec Rash, a high school pitcher from Iowa by yesterday's 5 PM deadline. His slotted bonus was $500,000, but the Phillies were under their signing bonus pool money. and Rash was the only one of their first 18 picks that had failed to sign. The Phillies offered him a signing bonus of $560,000 plus $120,000 for college tuition & expenses, a total package of $680,000. Somehow Rash and his father had determined that $800,000 waS THE MAGIC NUMBER IT WOULD TAKE TO SIGN rASH FOR HIM TO FOREGO A BASEBALL SCHOLARSHIP TO THE uNIVERSITY OF mISSOURI. Perhaps a deal could have been done like that before the new Collective bargaining Agreement went into effect, but not today. The Phillies would have faced financial penalties plus the loss of a draft pick if they had agreed to Rash's demands. As a result, Rash went unsigned at yesterday's signing deadline and will go to college. The Phillies will receive an additional second round pick next year, two in the second round ,which should compensate them for thei failure to come to terms with Rash. Rash was the last pick of the second round - #95 overall. He takes a gamble by turning down the Phillies deal, since an injury before he is next eligible for the draft three years from now could ruin his chances of being drafted higher in 2015.

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    Amaro's supposedly putting what will likely be a final offer on the table for Hamels that's expected within the next 72 hours. It's going to need to be far better than the Weaver-like deal offered last offseason.
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