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Derek Jeter is now in the Top 20 All-Time for hits. How far he will go is up for much discussion and debate, but what is virtually certain is that he will pass many other greats this year and in the year(s) ahead. The purpose of this thread is to highlight those he's passing, and discuss who's next and how far he will go.
Anyway, the other day Jeter passed Dave Winfield with his 3,111th hit. Next up, this man with 3,141.
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He should get to #11 by the season's end, possibly #10.
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I think he will finish behind Hank Aaron, but it will be really interesting to see if he can catch Musial.
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Jeter with another good game. I think he went 2 for 5. See ya later Willie Mays.
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3 for 5, but who's counting?Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173
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4 for 5 tonight. seriously this is pretty amazing. I know he's gonna slow down but still how can anyone not be impressed by this.
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He's hit over .350 with a .500 slugging percentage since collecting his 3,000 hit back in July. This is Jeter's "Indian Summer".
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Jeter is off to a fine start and surprisingly isn't openly complaining about pulling DH duty on occasion.
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Leading the Majors with 44 hits, and the AL by batting .404.
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2 more hits tonight.
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7 more hits to tie Gwynn. Nice HR, too.
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My guess is that he retires with 3800 hits. Although it really depends on how much his skills erode to the Yankees forcing his hand in retiring. I believe he has said he would like make a solid run at 4000.
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It is true that he has more hits than Pete Rose and Robin Young did at the same age, which is the most of anyone in history. Let's look at how hit collectors did after including and after turning 38 years old:Code:Rank Player (yrs, age) Hits Bats 1. Pete Rose (24) 4256 B 2. Ty Cobb+ (24) 4189 L 3. Hank Aaron+ (23) 3771 R 4. Stan Musial+ (22) 3630 L 5. Tris Speaker+ (22) 3514 L 6. Cap Anson+ (27) 3435 R 7. Honus Wagner+ (21) 3420 R 8. Carl Yastrzemski+ (23) 3419 L 9. Paul Molitor+ (21) 3319 R 10. Eddie Collins+ (25) 3315 L 11. Willie Mays+ (22) 3283 R 12. Eddie Murray+ (21) 3255 B 13. Nap Lajoie+ (21) 3242 R 14. Cal Ripken+ (21) 3184 R 15. George Brett+ (21) 3154 L 16. Paul Waner+ (20) 3152 L 17. Robin Yount+ (20) 3142 R 18. Tony Gwynn+ (20) 3141 L 19. Derek Jeter (18, 38) 3134 R
Code:Hits Player PA 1. Cap Anson 1137 4231 2. Pete Rose 1092 4426 3. Sam Rice 952 3276 4. Jim O'Rourke 791 2740 5. Honus Wagner 784 3077 6. Omar Vizquel 695 2965 Carl Yastrzemski 695 2963 8. Carlton Fisk 690 3010 9. Luke Appling 689 2659 Dave Winfield 689 2892Code:Batting Average Player PA 1. Sam Rice .323 3276 2. Barry Bonds .313 2189 3. Jim O'Rourke .312 2740 4. Cap Anson .312 4231 5. Luke Appling .305 2659 6. Paul Molitor .302 2483 7. Joe Start .293 2072 8. Edgar Martinez .286 2140 9. Honus Wagner .285 3077 10. Deacon White .284 2333I'd say he has a VERY remote chance at the all time runs scored record. If he kept himself in optimal shape, moved full time to DH, and was lucky enough to not have a major injury or nagging injuries, I think he'd have an outside shot at scoring 500 more runs.Code:Runs Scored Player PA 1. Cap Anson 619 4231 2. Sam Rice 541 3276 3. Pete Rose 508 4426 4. The Rickey 466 2995 5. Jim O'Rourke 431 2740 6. Barry Bonds 397 2189 7. Dave Winfield 355 2892 8. Craig Biggio 341 2513 9. Honus Wagner 330 3077 10. Darrell Evans 328 2649
He also could (maybe should?) end up near Musial in career hits... that would definitely be one of the great accomplishments of any player in this so-called Expansion Era (1969-present). Again, luck will play the main part, along with the DH, and how long he stays hungry....
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Another 2 hits for Derek today.....and we're only in the 3rd inning!
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2 for 3 with two walks and two runs. Great day!
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Jeter is now hitting .397 with 48 hits in 38 games!
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With a really nice obp too. He's gotta be the best leadoff hitter in baseball right now. Although i'm kinda surprised he doesnt have more runs.
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"I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)
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Spaking of leadoff hitters and run scoring....every wonder many career runs scored would Ichiro have had leading off for the Yankees or Red Sox since 2001?
In 2010 Ichiro was on base 262 times....268 total bases...AND stole 42 bases....and yet scored only 74 runs!!!! Doesn't seem possible!!!
In 2010 Jeter was on base 251 times....245 total bases...stole only 18 bases. Yet 111 runs.
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Huh? Jeter is on pace for 127 runs scored, which would be his highest total since 1999.
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"I know I'm the world's worst fielder, but who gets paid for fielding? There isn't a great fielder in baseball getting the kind of dough I get paid for hitting."
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While he's batting a respectable .309 against righties, he's hitting an astounding .575 against lefties!
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Jeter has crushed lefties his entire career so this isn't too surprising. For his career, his BA is 34 points higher vs. lefties and his OPS is 110 points higher. Even in his miserable 2010 season, Jeter managed a .321/.391/.481 line against lefties. Unfortunately that season he was impotent against righties. Which is why idiots like me were saying he should ride the pine when the Yankees faced right-handed starters.
"There has always been a saying in baseball that you can't make a hitter, but I think you can improve a hitter. More than you can improve a fielder. More mistakes are made hitting than in any other part of the game."
- Ted Williams
"I know I'm the world's worst fielder, but who gets paid for fielding? There isn't a great fielder in baseball getting the kind of dough I get paid for hitting."
- Dick Stuart
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With his 50th hit last night, Derek Jeter became the fastest Yankee EVER to reach 50 hits in a season. Pretty hard to believe, considering Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mattingly, Combs, and all the greats who have played for the Yankees over the years.
"There has always been a saying in baseball that you can't make a hitter, but I think you can improve a hitter. More than you can improve a fielder. More mistakes are made hitting than in any other part of the game."
- Ted Williams
"I know I'm the world's worst fielder, but who gets paid for fielding? There isn't a great fielder in baseball getting the kind of dough I get paid for hitting."
- Dick Stuart
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Jeter has reached three notable milestones this season: 1,000 walks, 10,000 at-bats and 500 doubles. Only 17 players all-time have reached those marks, with Jeter being the only shortstop. He is also on pace to reach 250 home runs and 2,500 games played this year.
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I'm only surprised that Mattingly or Gehrig hadn't done it. I can see Jeter as in the top three. Mattingly had the most with 238, but I'm almost certain Gehrig had the most Yankee 200+ hit years with 8.
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