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    Derek Jeter: 3,000 Hits and beyond

    Derek Jeter is now in the Top 20 All-Time for hits. How far he will go is up for much discussion and debate, but what is virtually certain is that he will pass many other greats this year and in the year(s) ahead. The purpose of this thread is to highlight those he's passing, and discuss who's next and how far he will go.

    Anyway, the other day Jeter passed Dave Winfield with his 3,111th hit. Next up, this man with 3,141.

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    He should get to #11 by the season's end, possibly #10.

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    I think he will finish behind Hank Aaron, but it will be really interesting to see if he can catch Musial.

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    Jeter with another good game. I think he went 2 for 5. See ya later Willie Mays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Jeter with another good game. I think he went 2 for 5. See ya later Willie Mays.
    3 for 5, but who's counting?
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    4 for 5 tonight. seriously this is pretty amazing. I know he's gonna slow down but still how can anyone not be impressed by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    4 for 5 tonight. seriously this is pretty amazing. I know he's gonna slow down but still how can anyone not be impressed by this.
    He's hit over .350 with a .500 slugging percentage since collecting his 3,000 hit back in July. This is Jeter's "Indian Summer".

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    Jeter is off to a fine start and surprisingly isn't openly complaining about pulling DH duty on occasion.
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    Leading the Majors with 44 hits, and the AL by batting .404.
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    2 more hits tonight.
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    7 more hits to tie Gwynn. Nice HR, too.
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    My guess is that he retires with 3800 hits. Although it really depends on how much his skills erode to the Yankees forcing his hand in retiring. I believe he has said he would like make a solid run at 4000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YankeeRLA1968 View Post
    My guess is that he retires with 3800 hits. Although it really depends on how much his skills erode to the Yankees forcing his hand in retiring. I believe he has said he would like make a solid run at 4000.
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    Rank	Player (yrs, age)	Hits	Bats
    1.	Pete Rose (24)	        4256	B
    2.	Ty Cobb+ (24)	        4189	L
    3.	Hank Aaron+ (23)	3771	R
    4.	Stan Musial+ (22)	3630	L
    5.	Tris Speaker+ (22)	3514	L
    6.	Cap Anson+ (27)	        3435	R
    7.	Honus Wagner+ (21)	3420	R
    8.	Carl Yastrzemski+ (23)	3419	L
    9.	Paul Molitor+ (21)	3319	R
    10.	Eddie Collins+ (25)	3315	L
    11.	Willie Mays+ (22)	3283	R
    12.	Eddie Murray+ (21)	3255	B
    13.	Nap Lajoie+ (21)	3242	R
    14.	Cal Ripken+ (21)	3184	R
    15.	George Brett+ (21)	3154	L
    16.	Paul Waner+ (20)	3152	L
    17.	Robin Yount+ (20)	3142	R
    18.	Tony Gwynn+ (20)	3141	L
    19.	Derek Jeter (18, 38)	3134	R
    It is true that he has more hits than Pete Rose and Robin Young did at the same age, which is the most of anyone in history. Let's look at how hit collectors did after including and after turning 38 years old:
    Code:
    Hits
    Player		PA
    1.	Cap Anson	1137	4231
    2.	Pete Rose	1092	4426
    3.	Sam Rice	952	3276
    4.	Jim O'Rourke	791	2740
    5.	Honus Wagner	784	3077
    6.	Omar Vizquel	695	2965
     	Carl Yastrzemski	695	2963
    8.	Carlton Fisk	690	3010
    9.	Luke Appling	689	2659
     	Dave Winfield	689	2892
    Code:
    Batting Average
    Player		PA
    1.	Sam Rice	.323	3276
    2.	Barry Bonds	.313	2189
    3.	Jim O'Rourke	.312	2740
    4.	Cap Anson	.312	4231
    5.	Luke Appling	.305	2659
    6.	Paul Molitor	.302	2483
    7.	Joe Start	.293	2072
    8.	Edgar Martinez	.286	2140
    9.	Honus Wagner	.285	3077
    10.	Deacon White	.284	2333
    Code:
    Runs Scored
    Player		PA
    1.	Cap Anson	619	4231
    2.	Sam Rice	541	3276
    3.	Pete Rose	508	4426
    4.	The Rickey      466	2995
    5.	Jim O'Rourke	431	2740
    6.	Barry Bonds	397	2189
    7.	Dave Winfield	355	2892
    8.	Craig Biggio	341	2513
    9.	Honus Wagner	330	3077
    10.	Darrell Evans	328	2649
    I'd say he has a VERY remote chance at the all time runs scored record. If he kept himself in optimal shape, moved full time to DH, and was lucky enough to not have a major injury or nagging injuries, I think he'd have an outside shot at scoring 500 more runs.

    He also could (maybe should?) end up near Musial in career hits... that would definitely be one of the great accomplishments of any player in this so-called Expansion Era (1969-present). Again, luck will play the main part, along with the DH, and how long he stays hungry....

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    Another 2 hits for Derek today.....and we're only in the 3rd inning!

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    2 for 3 with two walks and two runs. Great day!
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    Jeter is now hitting .397 with 48 hits in 38 games!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgartohof View Post
    Jeter is now hitting .397 with 48 hits in 38 games!
    With a really nice obp too. He's gotta be the best leadoff hitter in baseball right now. Although i'm kinda surprised he doesnt have more runs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edgartohof View Post
    Jeter is now hitting .397 with 48 hits in 38 games!
    Spaking of leadoff hitters and run scoring....every wonder many career runs scored would Ichiro have had leading off for the Yankees or Red Sox since 2001?

    In 2010 Ichiro was on base 262 times....268 total bases...AND stole 42 bases....and yet scored only 74 runs!!!! Doesn't seem possible!!!

    In 2010 Jeter was on base 251 times....245 total bases...stole only 18 bases. Yet 111 runs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    With a really nice obp too. He's gotta be the best leadoff hitter in baseball right now. Although i'm kinda surprised he doesnt have more runs.
    Huh? Jeter is on pace for 127 runs scored, which would be his highest total since 1999.

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    While he's batting a respectable .309 against righties, he's hitting an astounding .575 against lefties!
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    While he's batting a respectable .309 against righties, he's hitting an astounding .575 against lefties!
    Jeter has crushed lefties his entire career so this isn't too surprising. For his career, his BA is 34 points higher vs. lefties and his OPS is 110 points higher. Even in his miserable 2010 season, Jeter managed a .321/.391/.481 line against lefties. Unfortunately that season he was impotent against righties. Which is why idiots like me were saying he should ride the pine when the Yankees faced right-handed starters.

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    With his 50th hit last night, Derek Jeter became the fastest Yankee EVER to reach 50 hits in a season. Pretty hard to believe, considering Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mattingly, Combs, and all the greats who have played for the Yankees over the years.

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    Jeter has reached three notable milestones this season: 1,000 walks, 10,000 at-bats and 500 doubles. Only 17 players all-time have reached those marks, with Jeter being the only shortstop. He is also on pace to reach 250 home runs and 2,500 games played this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GiambiJuice View Post
    With his 50th hit last night, Derek Jeter became the fastest Yankee EVER to reach 50 hits in a season. Pretty hard to believe, considering Gehrig, Dimaggio, Mattingly, Combs, and all the greats who have played for the Yankees over the years.
    I'm only surprised that Mattingly or Gehrig hadn't done it. I can see Jeter as in the top three. Mattingly had the most with 238, but I'm almost certain Gehrig had the most Yankee 200+ hit years with 8.
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