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    Girl in our area does the (near) impossible

    A girl in the CIAC has a perfect game...

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/highsc...153319491.html
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    Thanks, Jake. This morning, an Airman from the pass and ID office on the base asked me if I was a baseball fan, then turned his computer around and showed me this article. Amazing. They need to get Humber and this young lady together for a photo op.

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    my favorite part:

    But she played center field all last year and she never complained. When the coach gives you that moment and you take it ... good for her.

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    This is not that big of a deal. A top travel pitcher can stand a high school team on their head. The pitcher on my daughter's high school team (played D1) did it at least once a year. She probably did it six or seven times over four years. Half her games were no-hitters. She would pitch at least three perfect games per year with at least one being all K's.

    Add: I watched the beginning of her prospect video. She only throws 58. That it not hard. 58 was ordinary in the conference my daughter played. Travel outfielders who didn't pitch travel threw 58 in high school. Also there's no variance of speed on her breaking pitch. She didn't throw a riser. Her control wasn't very good. The team she K'ed everyone must have been weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tg643 View Post
    This is not that big of a deal. A top travel pitcher can stand a high school team on their head. The pitcher on my daughter's high school team (played D1) did it at least once a year. She probably did it six or seven times over four years. Half her games were no-hitters. She would pitch at least three perfect games per year with at least one being all K's.

    This is a big deal for any high school pitcher... NFA is one of the top schools in Southern CT.
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    This is a big deal. Read the article. 21 strikeouts vs. a team that in the previous game had 27 hits and 26 runs. Good Lord! Give the girl her due!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BamaYankee View Post
    This is a big deal. Read the article. 21 strikeouts vs. a team that in the previous game had 27 hits and 26 runs. Good Lord! Give the girl her due!
    You must not know softball. If there are scores of 26-7 the quality of competition sucks. Scoring 7 runs would have won most games in the conference my daughter played. The entire starting lineup of my daughter's high school team played college ball (five D1). They made the state final four all four years. They never scored 26 runs. Scoring 10 was a big deal except against the one bottom feeder.

    I watched their pitcher no hit half the opponents and pitch at least three perfect games per season. I remember my daughter diving and not getting a hit in the last inning one game. When she apologized to the pitcher the pitcher responded, "No big deal. It's not like I was pitching a perfect game." She considered no hitters to be ordinary in high school.
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    Unfortunately, this "feat"(?) means little or nothing to me, being that it's a girls' softball thing, and I have no experience to relate it to having never watched the sport for any meaningful length of time or purpose.

    I guess if I frequented this place, and it was posted there, I would have a better frame of reference to judge it by, but being this is a "baseball" site (or at least I thought it was), I'm tend to agree with "tg" as it's, "not that big of a deal", since I have come to respect his views on things.....so if he says it's a somewhat regular occurrence in his area, well, I'm gonna take his word for it.



    Quote Originally Posted by BamaYankee
    This is a big deal. Read the article. 21 strikeouts vs. a team that in the previous game had 27 hits and 26 runs. Good Lord! Give the girl her due!
    Bama, the current HS (baseball) team I'm coaching, has put up 12 runs on 12 hits in one game, only to come back two days later and get 2 runs on 2 hits, followed five days later by no runs on 1 hit, and two days after that post, 13 runs on 12 hits.......so really, several games prior to a team's current outing is really no indication of the quality of a particular team.

    Had that other team been undefeated or maybe have lost only a game or two, than that might be indicative of something, but a single game regardless of the score, IMO tells very little of the quality of a team.....one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvnine View Post
    Unfortunately, this "feat"(?) means little or nothing to me, being that it's a girls' softball thing, and I have no experience to relate it to having never watched the sport for any meaningful length of time or purpose.

    I guess if I frequented this place, and it was posted there, I would have a better frame of reference to judge it by, but being this is a "baseball" site (or at least I thought it was), I'm tend to agree with "tg" as it's, "not that big of a deal", since I have come to respect his views on things.....so if he says it's a somewhat regular occurrence in his area, well, I'm gonna take his word for it.




    Bama, the current HS (baseball) team I'm coaching, has put up 12 runs on 12 hits in one game, only to come back two days later and get 2 runs on 2 hits, followed five days later by no runs on 1 hit, and two days after that post, 13 runs on 12 hits.......so really, several games prior to a team's current outing is really no indication of the quality of a particular team.

    Had that other team been undefeated or maybe have lost only a game or two, than that might be indicative of something, but a single game regardless of the score, IMO tells very little of the quality of a team.....one way or the other.
    You see it happen in high school when a D1 prospect faces a bunch of stiffs. But this girl (throws below 60) isn't even a D1 prospect. The team must have really stunk. The team they beat 26-7 must be pitiful. Giving up 7 runs even when winning lends itself to a weak team.

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    Tg,
    Always with the negative side and how it applies to your children... Geeze, give it a break. I think you might be the type of person who gets a free car and would say "geeze I would have liked the red one with tan interior."

    Whether you've seen 1 or 100 girls do this it is still an amazing feat to get 21 strike outs... That means no hits, no pop flys, no ground outs, no nothing but strike outs.

    Mud,
    At a clinic about 10 years ago, we had Michelle Legacy as a clinician. She's about 5' 5" 110 lbs, but could throw the hell out of the softball. Some of my players (several were 6'+ studs who went on and played after HS) thought she was a joke, until they got in the cage with her. I told them all they had three pitches to hit the back of the net... If they could - no running for the entire season... They ran.

    Yes softball is not baseball, but many here are softball coaches and can appreciate a good softball/baseball story when they hear it. If you do not feel this is a great feat then go to the next thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tg643 View Post
    You see it happen in high school when a D1 prospect faces a bunch of stiffs. But this girl (throws below 60) isn't even a D1 prospect. The team must have really stunk. The team they beat 26-7 must be pitiful. Giving up 7 runs even when winning lends itself to a weak team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    This is a big deal for any high school pitcher... NFA is one of the top schools in Southern CT.
    Then it's a sad commentary on CT high school softball. Half of UConn's roster is from outside New England. When they were ranked a majority were from the west coast. I would be the first to admit where my daughter grew up in PA was not the US hotbed of ASA softball. But they pounded on the New England teams in tournaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tg643 View Post
    Add: I watched the beginning of her prospect video. She only throws 58. That it not hard. 58 was ordinary in the conference my daughter played.
    That makes it all the more impressive, IMO.

    She must actually know how to pitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    Tg,
    Always with the negative side and how it applies to your children... Geeze, give it a break. I think you might be the type of person who gets a free car and would say "geeze I would have liked the red one with tan interior."

    Whether you've seen 1 or 100 girls do this it is still an amazing feat to get 21 strike outs... That means no hits, no pop flys, no ground outs, no nothing but strike outs.

    Mud,
    At a clinic about 10 years ago, we had Michelle Legacy as a clinician. She's about 5' 5" 110 lbs, but could throw the hell out of the softball. Some of my players (several were 6'+ studs who went on and played after HS) thought she was a joke, until they got in the cage with her. I told them all they had three pitches to hit the back of the net... If they could - no running for the entire season... They ran.

    Yes softball is not baseball, but many here are softball coaches and can appreciate a good softball/baseball story when they hear it. If you do not feel this is a great feat then go to the next thread.
    Jake, from having lived all over the country I'm open minded. I've also looked outside the world I grew up in. Like most New Englanders you're very provincial. The story is newsworthy. It's worth an "Atta girl." It's not worth an "Oh my God! Look what she did!"

    There's a definitive pecking order of talent in high school age softball. When my daughter's team would go to nationals some of the top west coast teams would put up four or five runs on the same pitcher who no hit half the high school competition in PA. In the past few years the southeast has joined the power ranks of ASA and college softball.
    Last edited by tg643; 04-24-2012 at 11:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    Tg,
    Always with the negative side and how it applies to your children... Geeze, give it a break. I think you might be the type of person who gets a free car and would say "geeze I would have liked the red one with tan interior."

    Whether you've seen 1 or 100 girls do this it is still an amazing feat to get 21 strike outs... That means no hits, no pop flys, no ground outs, no nothing but strike outs.

    Mud,
    At a clinic about 10 years ago, we had Michelle Legacy as a clinician. She's about 5' 5" 110 lbs, but could throw the hell out of the softball. Some of my players (several were 6'+ studs who went on and played after HS) thought she was a joke, until they got in the cage with her. I told them all they had three pitches to hit the back of the net... If they could - no running for the entire season... They ran.

    Yes softball is not baseball, but many here are softball coaches and can appreciate a good softball/baseball story when they hear it. If you do not feel this is a great feat then go to the next thread.
    Jake,
    For what it’s worth, I thought it was impressive. However, my daughter is not a D1 super star softball player like that TG’s and I haven’t seen any high end softball like him, so my opinion may not be worth much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    Mud,
    At a clinic about 10 years ago, we had Michelle Legacy as a clinician. She's about 5' 5" 110 lbs, but could throw the hell out of the softball. Some of my players (several were 6'+ studs who went on and played after HS) thought she was a joke, until they got in the cage with her. I told them all they had three pitches to hit the back of the net... If they could - no running for the entire season... They ran.

    Yessoftball is not baseball, but many here are softball coaches and can appreciate a good softball/baseball story when they hear it. If you do not feel this is a great feat then go to the next thread.
    I guess it all has to do with perspective Jake.

    OK, at least here's one that's baseball related........ "West Seattle Little League: Jacob Terao’s 18-strikeout perfect game"......

    Quote Originally Posted by West Seattle Blog
    On Thursday April 12th, 2012, 12-year-old West Seattle Little Leaguer Jacob Terao accomplished one of the rarest feats in baseball by pitching a perfect game. During a West Seattle Little League majors game at Bar-S Playfield, Terao struck out all 18 batters from the opposing team: No walks, no runs, and no one on base. With a combination of 2- and 4-seam fastballs, Terao threw 54 strikes and 27 balls for a total of 81 pitches leading his team, the WSLL Rays, to a 4-0 win over the WSLL Braves.

    jacob.jpg
    Ok, so now how impressed are you with that "feat"? Personally, I'm thinking , "So what, it's LL", but then again, you and others may be awe-struck by it.

    Same as my impression of the girls' softball thing......"Eh, it's girls' softball".

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    I appreciated the article being posted. I thought one of the essential lessons of the story was a girl waiting her turn. She played CF the year before. I couldn't care less how fast or slow she throws. Tim Wakefield had a long MLB career. She made the news. Most high school athletes don't get that lucky. Buncha grumpy suckers in this forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake Patterson View Post
    Mud,
    At a clinic about 10 years ago, we had Michelle Legacy as a clinician. She's about 5' 5" 110 lbs, but could throw the hell out of the softball. Some of my players (several were 6'+ studs who went on and played after HS) thought she was a joke, until they got in the cage with her. I told them all they had three pitches to hit the back of the net... If they could - no running for the entire season... They ran.
    When I'm dispensing my life experience knowledge to HS pitchers, once in a while, I'll throw in some "life lessons" and they're almost always just silly crap like "don;t rub Flex-All 454 on a tender groin" or "don't slide headfirst over the base with a big dip in your lip" (that's how old I am) or "never give Murph -- the pine tar freak -- a high five" and things of that nature.

    My advice of "never hit off a college softball pitcher in front of your friends" is legit. They all think I'm joking but I tell them, "No, I'm not playing around. Don't do it."

    I think I was able to get my hands loaded by the time the ball whizzed by.

    Good for the pitcher. Things can be cool and impressive without being the best thing ever. Eh-ver. I think the level got brought up because the article mentioned that she was primarily an OF.

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    We'll have a group photo then with Humber, the girl and this little dude. Congrats to him as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tg643 View Post
    Like most New Englanders you're very provincial. The story is newsworthy. It's worth an "Atta girl." It's not worth an "Oh my God! Look what she did!"
    Sometimes TG you're a piece of work... I was born in Louisiana... And I would gaurentee you I've seen more of the world than most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvnine View Post
    Ok, so now how impressed are you with that "feat"? Personally, I'm thinking , "So what, it's LL", but then again, you and others may be awe-struck by it.
    It's a shame you feel this way... The very few who achieve it will never forget. Like the softball pitcher I say good for the little guy! He's a kid who achieved what few in the game do.... I agree with you however, perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudvnine View Post
    I guess it all has to do with perspective Jake.

    OK, at least here's one that's baseball related........ "West Seattle Little League: Jacob Terao’s 18-strikeout perfect game"......


    Ok, so now how impressed are you with that "feat"? Personally, I'm thinking , "So what, it's LL", but then again, you and others may be awe-struck by it.

    Same as my impression of the girls' softball thing......"Eh, it's girls' softball".

    Perspective Jake, simply perspective.
    A kid from San Diego pitched an 18K perfect game at the LLWS a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncoach View Post
    I appreciated the article being posted. I thought one of the essential lessons of the story was a girl waiting her turn. She played CF the year before. I couldn't care less how fast or slow she throws. Tim Wakefield had a long MLB career. She made the news. Most high school athletes don't get that lucky. Buncha grumpy suckers in this forum!
    It may be there was a better pitcher in front of her the previous year. A very good softball pitcher sat behind the pitcher I referenced until her senior year. She didn't worry about it. She knew she couldn't hit. She was already recruited for college softball from travel before she got in the varsity circle senior year.

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    I shut the thread down... too bad it turned into what it did... I really did not see that coming.
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