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Cole Hamels admits to hitting Harper
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Originally posted by GiambiJuice View PostFrom darren Rovell: Amount Cole Hamels is fined for drilling Bryce Harper: $409,835. Total amount NFL has fined James Harrison: $198,529.
Pretty expensive "slap on the wrist", eh?Originally posted by Joe33 View Posti wasn't aware of that figure. Wow.They call me Mr. Baseball. Not because of my love for the game; because of all the stitches in my head.
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Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View PostThe problem isn't necessarily that Hamels hit Harper. That's normal. Pitchers hit batters all the time.
The problem was that Hamels openly admitted it. THAT is not normal. I don't care how obviously intentional the pitch was, I don't care how pissed off the pitcher may have been, I don't care what the batter did to deserve it. The pitcher does not, under ANY circumstances, admit that he threw at the batter. You just don't do that. It's against the code. The pitcher is just supposed to say that the pitch got away from him. Even if it's the most intentional thing he's ever done in his life - you don't admit that it was intentional."No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”
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Originally posted by bluesky5 View PostAnd common sense and decency and you owe to yourself and your team. I just don't know what he coulda been thinking.
Of course, I also think the comments made by the Nationals' GM were also out of line. Not that he deserves any censuring, but calling a 25-year veteran like Hamels "classless" and something profane I can't post here on BBF could've been reworded to be a bit less candid and a bit more professional. Jmho.Put it in the books.
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^ But Hamels *was* classless.
And I wouldn't call him a 25-year veteran. He's only been playing pro baseball since 2003...It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shakes, the shakes become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
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Originally posted by Mr. Laser Beam View Post^ But Hamels *was* classless.
And I wouldn't call him a 25-year veteran. He's only been playing pro baseball since 2003...Put it in the books.
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Originally posted by milladrive View PostI fully agree. Batters getting HBP is common, but the pitcher openly admitting it was intentional is a huge no-no. As you say, I don't know what Hamels was thinking when he opened his mouth, but the guy is, to make an understatement, no rookie, and he should know better.
Of course, I also think the comments made by the Nationals' GM were also out of line. Not that he deserves any censuring, but calling a 25-year veteran like Hamels "classless" and something profane I can't post here on BBF could've been reworded to be a bit less candid and a bit more professional. Jmho.All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela
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Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostI don't think he was out of line he is protecting the Nats investment in Harper and Harper himself. As far as i am concerned Hammels got everything he deserved."No matter how great you were once upon a time — the years go by, and men forget,” - W. A. Phelon in Baseball Magazine in 1915. “Ross Barnes, forty years ago, was as great as Cobb or Wagner ever dared to be. Had scores been kept then as now, he would have seemed incomparably marvelous.”
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I've heard the word "class" so much in the past few years I don't even think people know what it means anymore. I knew this would be made into some big deal, especially by certain sports media, instead of realizing it's baseball players being baseball players. The pussification of baseball, I suppose"Allen Sutton Sothoron pitched his initials off today."--1920s article
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I agree, Rizzo didn't need to say anything and should have let things sit. I think most baseball people, whether it be current or veteran players, can already discern Hamels' and the Phillies' intentions. Rizzo's given this more attention than it already had, and in turn takes the attention away from what Harper is doing on the field and onto this sideshow that Hamels/Phillies created; Rizzo is playing right into the Phillies hands.
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Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostI don't think he was out of line he is protecting the Nats investment in Harper and Harper himself. As far as i am concerned Hammels got everything he deserved.
Originally posted by Joe33 View PostI agree, Rizzo didn't need to say anything and should have let things sit. I think most baseball people, whether it be current or veteran players, can already discern Hamels' and the Phillies' intentions. Rizzo's given this more attention than it already had, and in turn takes the attention away from what Harper is doing on the field and onto this sideshow that Hamels/Phillies created; Rizzo is playing right into the Phillies hands.Put it in the books.
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Originally posted by bluesky5 View PostBy running his mouth?All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela
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Originally posted by RaysFan_98 View PostYep.... ITs not the nats fault or harpers this is on the Phillies and Hammers.Put it in the books.
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Originally posted by milladrive View PostAnd fueling the fire by creating a verbal media circus surrounding it? From what I've seen, Rizzo has a difficult time distinguishing the difference between MLB and WWF.All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing. -Unknown
A good head and a good heart are always a formidable combination. -Nelson Mandela
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