B.Robinson v. Brett #5
Is there a way to get a rank of what spots in the batting order had the most stolen bases?
For example
in the AL for the 1970s: 1, 2, 9, 7, 8, 3, 6, 5, 4
in the NL for the 1970s: 1, 2, 7, 8, 3, 6, 5, 4, 9
Or if not by decade then a cumulative over the history of the game? or from the 1950 to current?
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Just guessing, but I bet your example is pretty close...
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For the past 3 seasons, the top 4 spots have been 1, 2, 3, 6.
Here is a starting point. If you want to do it by decade, you'll have to get your calculator out and add up each season.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...ear=2011#lineu
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...ear=2010#lineu
http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...ear=2009#lineu
Links to AL or NL only are at the top of the pages.
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B.Robinson v. Brett #5
Wow, thanks. That's pretty interesting data. I'm rather surprised by the amount of SBs in the middle of the order vs. the end of the order. I know the middle get's more PA & AB than the end of the order but I figured that there was more speed at the end of the order. Maybe the middle of the order is the beneficiary of being on the backend of a lot of double-steals?Originally Posted by JDanger
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Yeah, you can see how managers choose to arrange their batting orders, as the cleanup slot is nearly always a significant drop off from the 1,2,3 slots. Except in the '80s-- everybody ran in the '80s.
An SB/PA rate stat would definitely help to clarify things; if I get time tonight I'll give it a run.
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OK, here is the same chart with SB/PA added. Its a google doc, so you can play around with the sort. For instance, the highest SB/PA of this group is the 1980's NL lead-off hitters (9.83%). The lowest is 1950's NL Pitchers (.26%).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...XQ4a2hsOVU0VlE
B.Robinson v. Brett #5
Adding the PAs was helpful. I threw it into Microsoft Excel and applied some conditional formatting to it too. Clearly the DH makes a difference. The AL utilizes more speed at the bottom of the order. That's not a real surprise but it's fun to see.
I guess what surprised me was that the NL doesn't seem to use much speed in the 8 spot. Their players have to be just as fast as the AL yet but they must rely on the old strategy of the pitchers sacrificing runners over.
EDIT: Thanks again!
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Has anyone compiled lists of stolen base leaders for decades which didn't start with a year ending in a 0? Such as 1964-1973 or 1988-1997?
Holding a pitcher accountable for how many runs his team scores is like holding the designated hitter accountable for how many runs his team allows.
An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.
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Why not just run all decades and not just the decades which start with a year ending in 0?
Holding a pitcher accountable for how many runs his team scores is like holding the designated hitter accountable for how many runs his team allows.
An individual statistic is meaningful only if it is based strictly on what the player does and not on what the other players on his team do.
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