Need a little more info to determine success or not with the IBB, but the situation for implementing was correct.
Originally Posted by scorekeeper
This is a successful IBB, fielder simply made an error. The desired play happened, the player just failed to execute.
The 2nd IBB came in the bottom of the 8th inning, with the score 4-3, runners on 3nd and 3rd with 1 out. The next batter was the #2 batter in the lineup. He’d grounded out 3 times and singled against the previous pitchers. He hit another ground ball F6 tried for a force at the plate but didn’t get it, and the ball was thrown away, allowing the game winning run to score.
Incorrect time for an IBB, not an advantage gain defensively....so that's just dumb.
The next was in a game we had just gone ahead 4-3 in the top of the 4th. There were 2 outs and runners on 1st and 2nd. The batter was our best hitter and leadoff man. He’d grounded out and reached on an error. The next batter tripled and all 3 runs scored.
Sounds like the IBB was correctly called, but a fielder once again made the wrong decision with the ball. The run should have never scored, unless it was a failed DP attempt (batter/runner safe at 1st).
The next was the bottom of the 4th, we were ahead 3-1 with runners on 2nd and 3rd and 1 out with our best hitter up again. The next batter grounded out driving in a run. The next batter walked, and the next went out on a really great play by the shortstop diving for a smashed liner.
Now that's just dumb. IBB should never be called with two outs (especially so early in a game) simply to "pitch around" a hitter.
The next was a tie game in the bottom of the 4th and 2 outs, a runner on 3rd, with our best hitter up yet again. The next batter doubled driving in both runners.
Worked out OK, but it should never have been called....again, way too early in a close game and especially not with two outs. NEVER put a runner in scoring position with two outs.
The next, we were down 3-2 in the bottom of the 2nd with 2 outs and runner on 1st, and their best hitter who was eventually drafted batting. The next batter who was also drafted, sent our F8 to the wall to make a catch to end the inning.
Another, "now that's just dumb".....
Another, ""now that's just dumb".....
The last one was a playoff elimination game. We were down 11-3 and they had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 2 outs in to top of the 4th. The batter had Kd and singled previously in the game, was their #4 hitter in the lineup, and the batter who came up has a ‘ship to a mid-level D1 school, and had already doubled and tripled earlier. He flew out to left to end the inning.
There's two outs for Pete's sake, you're down by 8....why put more RBIs on the base paths when a GB gets you an out at 1st to end the inning?
The verdict? Out of seven, only three were correctly called for.
So, there’d only been 7 of them all season and only 4 were our pitchers, and each of the ones on our batters were failures. Of the 4 our pitchers gave up, two were failures and led directly to losses. One of the others succeeded in a game and situation that had no real meaning, and the other came in a game that for all intents and purposed was lost anyway.
So what the verdict? Well, 7 instances isn’t something I’d want to bet my house on one way or the other, but I honestly can’t see how in all but 2 of the cases nothing much worse could really have happened by not issuing the IBB. But, that’s in the eyes of the beholder I guess, and it was fun taking a look.
Of the three that were implemented correctly, on two of them, the desired results happened, but the fielder(s) handling the ball failed to execute properly. So while in the scorebook they didn't appear to work, the desired situation happened on the field....so I would say, the IBB "worked" in those two situations. The third where all three "eventually scored" needs more information as to their "success"...what did the batter after the IBB do?
The other four "IBBs" were incorrectly called, so whether they "worked" or not is meaningless.....as their implementation in the described situations was, "just dumb".
Last edited by mudvnine; 06-21-2012 at 09:46 PM.
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