Really not semantics at all, but rather two different philosophies. One employees a more active use of the hands/wrists in the loading process, while the other does not.
Originally Posted by giantheart
I'll be heard telling a kid, "C'mon, free up your hands", meaning that he needs to use them more to get the barrel/bat to a better launch position.....the other "side" does not believe that they are used or needed to accomplish that.
As far as Epstein goes, pinning the bat to the deltoid in the "Torque Drill", is the exact opposite of using the hands to actively "turn" and launch the barrel.
...of everything I heard...I actually still like mike epstein's explanation and teaching method the best.... I guess he advocates turning rather than throwing but he certainly doesn't call it that.
From that bat on the deltoid position, he is not "turning" anything, all the hitter can do is "push" the barrel to the ball with his arms, but that's a whole other thread.
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