My son's recent swings

[tradosaurus]

Of course taking steroids helps the strength aspect and reactionary time.

I'm not sure using Bonds would be a good example for kids.

[lancers]

One thing I would fix in the lower half is that he's shifting to the front side, the back leg is not really "winning". I feel that the weight has shifted such that it's not over top of the femur (or at least slightly in front of it). He's sliding his hips off of any kind of coiled stretch and getting to the front side too soon. Honestly I'd work on this over all else. With Bonds as a goal:

I made gif out of two of the swings in that clip. One with weight going forward more than the others.



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During the whole session I didn't give any instructions. Do you see him doing some adjustments himself?

I double checked again. The shift forward one is actually the latter swing. Wondering what kind of mindset is causing that.

[tradosaurus]

They both look identical to me.

[mudvnine]

I made gif out of two of the swings in that clip. One with weight going forward more than the others.



and



During the whole session I didn't give any instructions. Do you see him doing some adjustments himself?

I double checked again. The shift forward one is actually the latter swing. Wondering what kind of mindset is causing that.

I still see him loading with his shoulders in both of these clips, instead of "around".....IOWs more "all back/all forward", instead of using "separation" to obtain his "stretch".

I know he knows how to do it, I've seen him do it before, just needs to get back to that, and I think it will take care of his hand situation....as that was never really a "problem" with him before.


JMO,
mud -

[Encinitas]

I am not terribly comfortable with the way the bottom leg turns out so early (watch his knee). Turns out I guess he's attempting to coil there? Not saying it's an absolute but could be a sign he's off.

This is the one that I wanted to show (the bottom clip from above). So when Bonds is pronating the bottom forearm as the hands raise Little Lancer's hands are moving away from the shoulder. Stare at Bonds top hand before the swing in the clips posted here. Mostly because he's loading via the shoulders like Mud said. See how they come out from behind the corner to swing? Losing the "around" right there.

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[lancers]

I am not terribly comfortable with the way the bottom leg turns out so early (watch his knee). Turns out I guess he's attempting to coil there? Not saying it's an absolute but could be a sign he's off.

This is the one that I wanted to show (the bottom clip from above). So when Bonds is pronating the bottom forearm as the hands raise Little Lancer's hands are moving away from the shoulder. Stare at Bonds top hand before the swing in the clips posted here. Mostly because he's loading via the shoulders like Mud said. See how they come out from behind the corner to swing? Losing the "around" right there.

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Yes that's another thing he needs to work on.

[songtitle]

In the clip above, he is not coiling as he moves forward.

[lancers]

I'm reviewing some old clips now.

These were from the beginning of the year right before the season started. I remember I got bad shoulder during that time so I believe all these were against under hand toss.

Based on my notes we were working on the scap loading etc.

[mudvnine]

I'm reviewing some old clips now.

These were from the beginning of the year right before the season started. I remember I got bad shoulder during that time so I believe all these were against under hand toss.

Based on my notes we were working on the scap loading etc.

This is more of what I was talking about when I said.....

I know he knows how to do it, I've seen him do it before, just needs to get back to that, and I think it will take care of his hand situation....as that was never really a "problem" with him before.

Much better.....

[Encinitas]

Nice work Lancer!

[lancers]

Nice work Lancer!

Just came back from Aviara park. Poinsettia was occupied. And I have to cut short the bp, lost 6 balls into the canyon

This is one of the shot into it.

[lancers]

A couple more



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[lancers]

Getting very hot the whole week. We are into the mid 80s today. Probably the hottest day this year. Finally got a chance to hit on the big field in the morning.

Trying to get more stretch.

This one is the undisputed longest shot he ever had in front toss bp



This might be the second



This one he hit a little under but still pretty long. Would be nice if he square it.

[Sports]

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[pstein]

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[jbooth]

Getting very hot the whole week. We are into the mid 80s today. Probably the hottest day this year. Finally got a chance to hit on the big field in the morning.

Mid 80's hot?! Mid 80's is our overnight low. Last week we had a high of 117 with overnight low 93. Most days in August are 112 hi 85 lo.

Kids play tournaments in that weather every weekend.

[lancers]

Mid 80's hot?! Mid 80's is our overnight low. Last week we had a high of 117 with overnight low 93. Most days in August are 112 hi 85 lo.

Kids play tournaments in that weather every weekend.

We just played at Riverside for this weekend. 107 degree under the scorching sun. Man it's hot.

We didn't even get all the players sign up for this tournament and ended up playing with several borrowed guns.

In this morning's playoff, half of the players wanted to lose the game and go home. Coach said you guys are too spoiled by the nice weather.

[lancers]

He actually did pretty good for the tournament. Went 4 for 6 and 3 walks. Including

A double to the LCF


And a triple over the CF head

[jbooth]

We just played at Riverside for this weekend. 107 degree under the scorching sun. Man it's hot.

We didn't even get all the players sign up for this tournament and ended up playing with several borrowed guns.

In this morning's playoff, half of the players wanted to lose the game and go home. Coach said you guys are too spoiled by the nice weather.

Don't get me wrong. Temps above 110 are NOT pleasant. We get used to 100 to 105, but when it gets above 110 it is brutal.

I can also understand that when you live in a low 80's environment, that it is tough to take a short stay in 100+. OTOH, we just go back from a trip to NorCal where it was 85 to 95 and that felt very nice to us after leaving a week of 112+.

Your son's swing is looking very good.

[CircleChange11]

He actually did pretty good for the tournament. Went 4 for 6 and 3 walks. Including

I gotta admit that when I watch his swing at full speed there are aspects that I just don't like or do not seem ideal to me. I am willing to admit that maybe it's me that's the problem and maybe I just don't know poop from pudding.

But, when I watch it frame by frame (by clicking the right side of white circle on the youtube progress bar), the "steps" of the swing all look very good ... and the kid appears to have very, very quick hands ... which may allow him to get away with not stretching as much as perhaps I think he should. I don;t think he gets much stretch and/or coil, which is interesting because he's hitting balls on a line. I see his swing and think he could be blasting the ball even more than he is. I also don;t want to sit here and try and make myself sound like I'm an authority on the subject ... I'm not.

Anything I say is intended to be helpful. I'm not one of those guys that sees other people's kids doing well and needing to take them down a peg or two or make myself look good by pointing out flaws that aren't really there.

I think your son is a very interesting situation of separating "style" from "substance" and really looking at what aspects of the swing are effective.

IMO, the swings you posted from earlier in the year, when you noted you were working on the stretch, were the best swings in the thread ... but I don't see the same swing in the game footage. I don't want to say anything that's going to sound like it's disparaging or minimizing to your son, I just want to see him use more of the bigger muscles of his structure and be less "handsy" (for lack of better term). He does appear to have really fast hands.

[lancers]

I can also understand that when you live in a low 80's environment,

Our typical high is mid 70's. Now talk about spoiled.

[lancers]

I gotta admit that when I watch his swing at full speed there are aspects that I just don't like or do not seem ideal to me. I am willing to admit that maybe it's me that's the problem and maybe I just don't know poop from pudding.

But, when I watch it frame by frame (by clicking the right side of white circle on the youtube progress bar), the "steps" of the swing all look very good ... and the kid appears to have very, very quick hands ... which may allow him to get away with not stretching as much as perhaps I think he should. I don;t think he gets much stretch and/or coil, which is interesting because he's hitting balls on a line. I see his swing and think he could be blasting the ball even more than he is. I also don;t want to sit here and try and make myself sound like I'm an authority on the subject ... I'm not.

Anything I say is intended to be helpful. I'm not one of those guys that sees other people's kids doing well and needing to take them down a peg or two or make myself look good by pointing out flaws that aren't really there.

I think your son is a very interesting situation of separating "style" from "substance" and really looking at what aspects of the swing are effective.

IMO, the swings you posted from earlier in the year, when you noted you were working on the stretch, were the best swings in the thread ... but I don't see the same swing in the game footage. I don't want to say anything that's going to sound like it's disparaging or minimizing to your son, I just want to see him use more of the bigger muscles of his structure and be less "handsy" (for lack of better term). He does appear to have really fast hands.

No worry, I myself am also trying to understand those aspects too.

He once tried more conventional swings before such as this one when he was 13.



But he insisted that it is not as powerful as when he has a lot of hands movements.

[lancers]

Back to school now. JV and Varsity players are required to take baseball PE. First couple months will be conditioning only.

Short BP on Sunday to stay in hitting shape.

[Baseball gLove]

During one summer high school game it was 112 at game time. Coaches for the Junior Olympic Squad were worried the kids would not be acclimated to Peoria, Az weather. In Az it was 115 to 117 during games. It cooled down to a more comfortable 105 degrees by 10 pm