Yeah, other players might not feel forced, but there would players orce to take them to keep their job to keep up with the rest of the pack that's using.
Kind of like when a pitcher goes for TJ surgery to repair a worn out arm. Or a hitter has Lasix to restore once great vision.
Just extending his career.
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Football fans weren't bothered when N.E. Patriot Rodney Harrison was caught obtaining steroids. A friend of mine often says, "If you aren't cheating you aren't trying." Corruption is part of football because it is what all concerned want. In baseball there is a continuing debate among fans who have never even used steroids. As many BBF folks know I put little weight on the assumptions of those who don't have personal experience. I also am very aware that steroids get you... high! I remain taken aback that no one seems to think that MLB players like to get high. The well documented use of alcohol and a variety of recreational drugs should serve as evidence that performance is far from the only reason men get juiced. Bars are full of guys who use Deca-Drol for its alleged aphrodisiac qualities. A MLB player looking for love....
What "phoney" excuses? Because not every player wants to use drugs? If you legalize the drug, you giving those who have no problem using the drug a free pass while those who don't wish to use will be punished, no?
I don't believe I said that you said they all used. All I meant was why wouldn't all players use to keep pace with the users, not excusable. My point, any who used to keep pace or keep their job are still guilty of using and breaking the rule if using after the rule was in place.
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There had to be some users who were making enough to live 10 lifetimes while clean, so why use and raise the possibility of getting caught.
I guess no one thinks they will be caught.............it's always the other guy.Wonder if they ever stopped to think, thats probably what the "other guy" thought................not me.
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It's easy to judge people and things from a distance.
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True Cap, easy to judge things from a distance but no matter what our view is on the issue, we're all a good distance away.
I just bottom line it by saying the user chose to use, no matter what the reason, I don't spread the blame any where else.
This thread is completely off-topic. If there is no more discussion about Skip accusing Jeter, what's the point of it anymore?
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It will always be users that use after the ban will be dealt a penalty.
All the nonsense about why they used means nothing.
If your on the all excuse and reasons why side, your losing.
Remember this is a baseball board, most other sports deal with the issue the same way, you used, save your breath, you have no excuse.
What is the difficulty with using common sense and putting the blame on the player that made the choice to use.
There are probably some on this board with the all excuses and reasons why we should not judge some users, who didn't want to hear Andy Petitte and his reason for using, injuries.
Now it's a different story.
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If an athlete breaks a rule in place because he's trying to do better, that make it OK, acceptable. Because that has been the theme here, steroid use, since the ban.
OK the athlete uses...............who do you think shoulders the blame.
Coffee, sold over the counter, compared to a chemical banned in just about every sport.
Shake hands with Barry Bonds who once said............."you wear glasses to do your job better, isn't that cheating."
As far as I know Barry you can even buy glasses with no prescription, right off the rack. Foot in mouth.
In plain Engish, you may not want to hear it, you have no case.
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