High school swing Feedback

[mr. potato head]

I'm leaning toward MudV on this one; I don't see it as bug squishing (at least not worth addressing directly), but it can look that way because of the exaggerated width of the stance and the pronounced push back. Otherwise, there's good advice here about not pushing the hands forward - hard to tell because there seems to be a little early arm-barring, which can lead to that. It might also help to try to do a little "tipping" of the bat toward right center as the hands load; this can both prevent the pushing of the hands and lead to a better "throw".

Just to be a little contrarian and to try to add a little "real world" to this analysis. My experience is that kids who have this kind of pronounced weight shift and push back in the cages rarely replicate this in real game conditions. So, BP may in effect be an exaggeration drill such that - even in games - he still has a sufficiently pronounced and aggressive weight shift. Often, you'll see HS hitters who have lovely swings in BP but truncate their load and weight shift in live games in order to catch up with pitches, so their BP swings are of little help in analyzing them. So, I'd personally like to see some game swings before condemning what he's doing now.

With all this said, this kid's in the top 10 - 15% of freshman hitters I've seen. Any coach who doesn't see him as a 'keeper' would be nuts.

Can you tell me a little more about these comments? How can tipping help prevent pushing of the hands and lead to a better throw? Do you actually SEE a high level throwing motion in high level swings? Lastly, some on here believe that the hands just hold on to the bat as you connect the bat to the rotation of the body. What are your feelings wrt to the role of the hands?

Thank you for your thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIK1E...feature=relmfu

For the OP, I watched some of your son's other video and saw a thread that involved him as well. I liked some of the ideas in that thread. Have him watch Longoria and try to emulate. That will help him with a slower, more pronounced feel and load. As he does the walk up drill, have him note and try to implement the feel and speed of Longo. He looks like he is very worried about being late. Start the load early and keep loading til it is time to GO!! I am not suggesting you do a complete re-do of his swing per se, but I feel that if we would get the FEEL in his rear hip, y'all can adjust his swing to a point where you can get away from the out front push.

[Standballdad]

Can you tell me a little more about these comments? How can tipping help prevent pushing of the hands and lead to a better throw? Do you actually SEE a high level throwing motion in high level swings? Lastly, some on here believe that the hands just hold on to the bat as you connect the bat to the rotation of the body. What are your feelings wrt to the role of the hands?

Thank you for your thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIK1E...feature=relmfu

For the OP, I watched some of your son's other video and saw a thread that involved him as well. I liked some of the ideas in that thread. Have him watch Longoria and try to emulate. That will help him with a slower, more pronounced feel and load. As he does the walk up drill, have him note and try to implement the feel and speed of Longo. He looks like he is very worried about being late. Start the load early and keep loading til it is time to GO!! I am not suggesting you do a complete re-do of his swing per se, but I feel that if we would get the FEEL in his rear hip, y'all can adjust his swing to a point where you can get away from the out front push.

Funny, the 2 things you mentioned were also pointed out to him in his last hitting session with an instructor last night. Need to be more deliberate and slower in the load sequence and the pushing of the hands issue.

[pstein]

I'm leaning toward MudV on this one; I don't see it as bug squishing (at least not worth addressing directly), but it can look that way because of the exaggerated width of the stance and the pronounced push back. Otherwise, there's good advice here about not pushing the hands forward - hard to tell because there seems to be a little early arm-barring, which can lead to that. It might also help to try to do a little "tipping" of the bat toward right center as the hands load; this can both prevent the pushing of the hands and lead to a better "throw".

With all this said, this kid's in the top 10 - 15% of freshman hitters I've seen. Any coach who doesn't see him as a 'keeper' would be nuts.

Only if you come out of it properly... I've seen many hitters push after tipping the bat. But then again, what you define as push and what I define as push could be two totally different things.

[Standballdad]

Only if you come out of it properly... I've seen many hitters push after tipping the bat. But then again, what you define as push and what I define as push could be two totally different things.

Just so I can better understand all of this, what is your definition of pushing the hands? Thanks