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    Unique Records

    This is from The Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers. Thus, information is complete up to 2003. Some records may no longer be unique, but I really don't have the resources to check individual records from 2003-2011 to cross-reference. Unless there is some BBRef trick sans subscription, it is simply too time consuming. The only one I know that is no longer unique is Preacher Roe's 22-3 record in 1951. Cliff Lee matched it in 2008.

    Since 1910, only one pitcher has had each of the following unique records. That is, they accumulated a certain amount of wins and losses that has never been matched. Can you name them? No cheating and if you feel you know a lot, only guess a few. Give others a chance.

    1910 10-27
    1910 9-23
    1910 6-24
    1911 Ed Walsh 27-18
    1912 Joe Wood 34-5
    1913 Walter Johnson 36-7
    1916 Jack Nabors 1-20
    1919 Eddie Cicotte 29-7
    1921 16-23
    1928 10-25
    1928 Tom Zachary 12-0
    1930 Lefty Grove 28-5
    1931 Lefty Grove 31-4
    1933 Paul Derringer 7-27
    1934 Dizzy Dean 30-7
    1934 Lefty Gomez 26-5
    1934 7-22
    1935 4-25
    1937 Johnny Allen 15-1
    1940 16-2
    1952 Robin Roberts 28-7
    1954 Don Larsen 3-21
    1956 Don Newcombe 27-7
    1959 Roy Face 18-1
    1963 Sandy Koufax 25-5
    1963 Roger Craig 5-22
    1965 Jack Fisher 8-24
    1966 Phil Regan 14-1
    1973 Roger Moret 13-2
    1978 Ron Guidry 25-3
    1978 Bob Stanley 15-2
    1979 Phil Niekro 21-20
    1982 Terry Felton 0-13
    1985 Orel Hershiser 19-3
    1985 Jose DeLeon 2-19
    1985 Dennis Lamp 11-0
    1990 Bob Welch 27-6
    1995 Greg Maddux 19-2
    1995 Jim Abbott 2-18
    1995 Randy Johnson 18-2
    1999 Pedro Martinez 23-4
    1999 Mike Hampton 22-4

    Two pitchers are on the list twice. They hold the record for most unique records
    Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 09-02-2012 at 01:36 PM.

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    I'll guess 1919 - Eddie Cicotte. 1931 is pretty famous Lefty Grove. 1985 Jose DeLeon or maybe Luis DeLeon. 1978 is Ron Guidry and Bob Stanley (15-2). I may know more but why be a hog (for now).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVNICK View Post
    I'll guess 1919 - Eddie Cicotte. 1931 is pretty famous Lefty Grove. 1985 Jose DeLeon or maybe Luis DeLeon. 1978 is Ron Guidry and Bob Stanley (15-2). I may know more but why be a hog (for now).
    All correct (1985 was Jose).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyrus4189Cobb View Post
    1941 10-0
    10-0 is not unique any more - Aaron Small in 2005.

    There's an easy way to check these using the BBF play index. Just type in wins = 10 (or whatever), and losses = 0. That will pull up all such seasons. You don't need a subscription to see the number of pitchers.
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    I think Randy Johnson was 18-2 in 1995.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Bob Welch in 1990.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Roy Face famously went 18-1

    2002 was Randy Johnson.

    I believe 1995 was Greg Maddux
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    I'm almost positive 1934 is Dizzy Dean.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    I remember looking up #16 a couple of years ago when Russ Ohlendorf was 1-11 for the Pirates.

    The answer, along with his teammate were something like 2-35 combined.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    I can't check but I think Dwight Gooden was 24-4 in 1985 and I see it is listed as 1999. I'll leave the 1999 name to someone else. Just to get a guess out of my system 1927 12-0 - Tom Zachary.

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    I'm pretty sure Joe Wood is 1912 and Walter Johnson is 1913.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Lefty Grove 1930
    Dazzy Vance 1934
    Sandy Koufax 1963

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    Terry Felton had the unfortunate 0-13 record in 1982.
    Last edited by Gee Walker; 08-29-2012 at 12:49 PM. Reason: add the year, dummy!

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    I think that's Bob Welch in 1990.

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    Jim Abbott went 2-18. That season always stuck in my mind--how could a guy do that bad (2-18, 7.48 ERA) and stick around so long (27 games, 23 starts)?

    23-4 in 1999 is Pedro Martinez.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ipitch View Post
    There's an easy way to check these using the BBF play index. Just type in wins = 10 (or whatever), and losses = 0. That will pull up all such seasons. You don't need a subscription to see the number of pitchers.
    Didn't even think of that. I'll do it right now. I won't be able to know if any new ones have come along, but I doubt it.

    Everything is updated, about 90% of the guesses were correct. By the way, I made a mistake for one of the 1999 records. I typed 24-4 but it should be 22-4 (so it isn't Gooden, PVNICK).

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    22-4 would be Mike Hampton I think.

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    1952 28-7 Robin Roberts?
    1954. 3-21 Don Larsen?
    1956 27-7 Don Newcombe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackaroo Dave View Post
    1952 28-7 Robin Roberts?
    1954. 3-21 Don Larsen?
    1956 27-7 Don Newcombe?
    All correct. Larsen's made my eyes bulge at first. It only made sense when I saw that it was his last year before going to the Yankees.
    Last edited by Tyrus4189Cobb; 08-29-2012 at 04:36 PM.

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    1934 26-5 Lefty Gomez

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    Roger Craig, 5-22, 1963 Mets. 1965 is a Met too I think.

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    1985 is Dennis Lamp.
    "Heck, all I got was a $100 check. I should have kept it and framed it, but I had to eat".

    Infielder Bob Hegman, when asked if he received a World Series ring for playing one inning of one game with the World
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    Why do I know the guys with the terrible records? The guy who went 1-20 in 1916 was named Jack Nabors.

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    Tyrus, you wrote Pedro Martinez for 1995 (19-2). I believe it should be Greg Maddux.
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    1979 - Phil Niekro
    1985 - Orel Hershiser

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