World Series Losers: Roster Thread

[Bothrops Atrox]

Yeah, that must be yet another site. Although 9 isn't too much higher than BBRef, which lists him at 8.2 WAR

I include pitcher offense in all of my WAR totals. it is very important in a non-DH draft, but included it out of habit here anyway.

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

I hope everyone isn't just bulking up on WAR and going to decide teams primarily on that

[chicagowhitesox1173]

I hope everyone isn't just bulking up on WAR and going to decide teams primarily on that

I think war plays a big part in most of everyones decisions but there are cases where I wouldn't use war as a deciding factor.

[Bothrops Atrox]

I hope everyone isn't just bulking up on WAR and going to decide teams primarily on that

I haven't heard anybody suggest that that was the case nor have I seen any of these people do it in the past. It is just a lot easier to post WAR than 10 different stats.

[Ben Grimm]

Now that the draft is complete, please have your rosters 100% updated no later than Sunday (10/21) 11:59pm ET / 8:59pm PT. Voting process will commence on Monday morning.

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

I ran our teams in a 140-game season simulator I co-created. It assumes there are no injuries, doesn't apply fatigue for nonpitchers, and provides a league average player if a guy flails over 40 games, who automatically comes back to perform after missing ten games. I entered each player's name, position(s), handedness, and basic stats (everything I listed in my roster post except OPS/ERA+, WAR, WPA, and WPA/LI).

It does assume that players will be routinely substituted and occasionally places guys at a secondary position if needed. In equal handedness matchups (RvR or LvL), batters lose 20% skill and pitchers gain 20% skill.

For opposing matchups, the opposite occurs. Baserunning based on SB amount and CS% of baserunner and catcher. Fielding based on subjective grades I gave from 0.5-2.0 in increments of 0.5 (poor, average, good, excellent). I tried my best at this, giving most guys 1.0 (average).

HRS= Honolulu Rainbow Surfers (9RoyHobbsRF)
TBP= Thunder Bay Peregrines (Ben Grimm)
BRM- Bridesmaids (John Shoemaker)
SSH- South Side Hitmen (chicago1173)
VLW= New England Valley Walkers (Tyrus4189Cobb)
AKI- Arkham Inmates (I'm assuming since that's his usual name; Wade8813)
BRT= (Big Ron's Team)
NCN= North County Notechis (Matthew C)


April 1st-August 29th, 2012
VLW (Tyrus): 87-53
TBP (Ben): 85-55
NCN (Matt): 72-68
AKI (Wade): 70-70
BRM (John): 70-70
HRS (Roy): 62-78
BRT (Ron): 59-81
SSH (chicago): 55-85

This will not affect my voting whatsoever. It is something fun using a crude season simulator

[9RoyHobbsRF]

Tyrus you list Fred Lynn as your LF

he did not play a single game in LF ib 1975 thus is inelgible for that position

[BigRon]

Tyrus you list Fred Lynn as your LF

he did not play a single game in LF ib 1975 thus is inelgible for that position

Is that right? I think Ben had 2 contradictory rules concerning this. I never bothered to follow up , but somewhere he said that CFers can play corner positions, with (I believe) no mention of % of games played. Clarification is needed.

[Ben Grimm]

Is that right? I think Ben had 2 contradictory rules concerning this. I never bothered to follow up , but somewhere he said that CFers can play corner positions, with (I believe) no mention of % of games played. Clarification is needed.

No matter the position - a player had to play 16 games in a position to qualify. It's Rule #3 found in first post of Draft Thread.

This was probably a simple oversight by Tyrus as we had dialogue pertaining to Cobb exclusively being a RF the year he was drafted.

[9RoyHobbsRF]

No matter the position - a player had to play 16 games in a position to qualify. It's Rule #3 found in first post of Draft Thread.

This was probably a simple oversight by Tyrus as we had dialogue pertaining to Cobb exclusively being a RF the year he was drafted.

I asked VERY Early in the draft if CF can play corner OF because I was going to draft Duke Snider as a corner OF and/or Reggie Smith as my possible starting RF and backup CF - and it was verified they had to play 16 games at a position to qualify.

[Wade8813]

It does assume that players will be routinely substituted and occasionally places guys at a secondary position if needed. In equal handedness matchups (RvR or LvL), batters lose 20% skill and pitchers gain 20% skill.

That seems like an awfully large split (although I may be wrong).

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

Tyrus you list Fred Lynn as your LF

he did not play a single game in LF ib 1975 thus is inelgible for that position

I was going according to post #11, which states:

"Unless anybody has an objection, I'll let CFs play any OF position. RFs can play LF, but LFs cannot play RF. I'm one of those believers that most LFs are there because they don't have the arm necessary for playing RF."

Lynn, Wynn, and Henderson (that sounds awesome) are all CFers and can thus can play any OF position. Cobb can play corner OF and Clarke is exclusive to LF. I listed everything to their secondary positions in my roster post.

[Tyrus4189Cobb]

That seems like an awfully large split (although I may be wrong).

You'd be surprised. Most hitters gain anywhere from 10-35% increase in stats when facing opposing handedness. If they aren't gaining, then the only person they can be losing to is the pitcher. Using 20% is the healthiest medium to achieve the best results for my particular simulator.

Ben, where should we post our votes?

[9RoyHobbsRF]

I was going according to post #11, which states:

"Unless anybody has an objection, I'll let CFs play any OF position. RFs can play LF, but LFs cannot play RF. I'm one of those believers that most LFs are there because they don't have the arm necessary for playing RF."

Lynn, Wynn, and Henderson (that sounds awesome) are all CFers and can thus can play any OF position. Cobb can play corner OF and Clarke is exclusive to LF. I listed everything to their secondary positions in my roster post.

I did ask if CF could play a corner position and was told they had to play 16 games at ANY specific position to qualify for that specific position

[Wade8813]

You'd be surprised. Most hitters gain anywhere from 10-35% increase in stats when facing opposing handedness. If they aren't gaining, then the only person they can be losing to is the pitcher. Using 20% is the healthiest medium to achieve the best results for my particular simulator.

Ben, where should we post our votes?

If you increase the hitter by 20% AND decrease the pitcher by 20%, doesn't that have a net effect of 40% (or close to it)?