Now, I certainly believe that a player can play worse because he's unhappy. Baseball players are humans with emotions, not robots, but it seems to usually turn out like this.
Rod Barajas was traded from the Mets to the Dodgers late in 2010. With the Mets he had hit .263/.414. In line with his career norm of .284/.407. With the Dodgers he hit .361/.578.
The narrative was that since he was born in California and grew up in California he was happy to be home. The Dodgers signed him for 2011. He responded to the happiness by hitting .287/.430. Right at his career norms.
I think Ichiro is better than he showed his last 2 years in Seattle. I don't think he's as good as his half season with the Yankees. Figure him for something in between.
Dickerson was not given a shot. But he did very well in AAA.
And both are quality defenders who can play all 3 of positions well not just fake cf.
Suzuki has been the 7th worst player in baseball over the last couple of years.
Neither of them are on that list.
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The best 239 plate appearances of Wise's career were equal to the worst season of Ichiro's career.
Wise's career wRC+ = 65
Ichiro's career wRC+ = 110
Bill James' projections, which aren't a forward-looking-crystal-ball of exactitude but do give us a starting point give us the following for 2013:
Wise .284/.394 (OBP/SLG) which is a .293 wOBA
Ichiro .331/.370 (OBP/SLG) which is a .304 wOBA
Actually pretty close. Closer than I would have thought.
One thing to consider though. Wise gets his playing time leveraged so that he avoids batting against left-handed pitchers.
In Wise's career, he's only faced lefties 17% of the time (176 of 1023 career plate appearances). The reason, his career wRC+ vs lefties is 40.
Ichiro, and every day player, faces lefties a bit more than 1/3 of the time. His career wRC+ vs lefties is 115
Now you still haven't shown that his base running and defense are equal to Ichiro's.
Ichiro has 133.1 fielding runs saved and 68.3 baserunning runs in 8723 PA's. For a total of 201 runs.
Wise has 18.8 fielding runs saved and 1.1 baserunning runs in 1118 PA's
Given an equal number of PA's to Ichiro Wise would have 147 fielding runs and 8.6 baserunning runs. A total of 155 runs.
So, Ichiro comes out on top there.
Of course, Ichiro has declined since his heyday, so we can't expect those numbers to continue but Wise still has some ground to make up.
It's closer than I thought. Still think it is obvious that Ichiro is the better player though.
Now, would trading for Wise, and having a right-handed platoon partner, and using Ichiro's money to re-sign Russ Martin have put the Yankees, in a better spot? Maybe.
And yes, the team would be better with Wise or Dickerson in RF and Martin at catcher, than Suzuki in RF and Stewart at C.
A year ago, all you did was bash Jeter and how he has declined so much and should just retire. Glad you have moved on to someone else.
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He also was downright horrific in the field, even by his standards. And managed to hurt himself while doing it.
Plus he did almost all of his damage against lefties, registering a 157 wRC+ but only 99 against righties. That 99 is not bad for a SS, but calling Jeter a SS is a stretch.
All that said, I do not think you can expect him to come close to those numbers in 2013.
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Player joins new team late in the season. Performs much better than he was expected. People say it's because he's much happier on the new team and expect his performance to continue the next season.
With Barajas, it certainly didn't.
Of course, one instance doesn't prove anything.
Just because something can't be quantified doesn't mean it's nonexistent.
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