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    Seattle Dragons Preseason Roster
    1) RF Sam Crawford (1901-08) 15.0
    2) 3B Jimmy Collins (1901-05) 10.0, player-manager
    3) SP Jesse Tannehill (1901-05) 8.0
    4) 2B Jimmy Williams (1901-06) 7.0
    5) SS Kid Elberfeld (1901-06) 6.0
    6) SP Ned Garvin (1901-1904) 6.0
    7) SP Ed Siever (1901-1903) 5.0
    8) SP Clark Griffith (1901-1905) 4.0
    9) LF John Anderson (1901-1905) 4.0
    10) OF Duff Cooley (1901-1905) 2.0
    11) SP Jock Menefee (1901-1903) 2.0
    12) C Duke Farrell (1901-1903) 2.0
    13) 1B Candy LaChance (1901-1904) 1.0
    14) 2B Shad Barry (1901-1903) 1.0
    15) Brickyard Kennedy (1901-1903) .75
    16) Aleck Smith (1901-1903) .50
    17) Jimmy Sebring(1902-1905) ,75
    18) Jimmy Morrissey (1902-03) .25
    19) John Malarkey (1902-03) 9.0
    20) C Ossee Schrecongest (1901-05 $4,000,000

    retired
    dummy hoy and wilbert robinson
    free agents
    john mcgraw
    malachi kittridge
    stan yerkes
    pat carney
    harry gleason
    germany schaeffer
    henry theilmann

    also, kid elberfeld is missing from my roster in the season file
    22 players for 88.0

    --the Dragons have some pitching depth and would be willing to deal one. I can use upgrades at a few spots but don't have any really gaping holes so either improving this year's roster or draft picks could get the job done.
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    Scoops Carey, Kitty Bransfield, Art Nichols, Gus Dorner, Peaches Graham, and Warren McLaughlin should not be on my roster any more
    Last edited by Wade8813; 11-30-2012 at 10:07 AM.

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    I don't want to delay things, but could we get a comprehensive FA list before the rookie draft? It makes a lot of difference to me. A lot of teams haven't posted their rosters in this thread, and those who did didn't always include who's becoming a FA.

    BTW - leece you list out 20 players, then say you have 22 signed...?

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    The Lighthouse Point Bums will consider trading Hobe Ferriss for a similar value pitcher. Ferriss is a good fielding, decent hitting second baseman who is in the lineup every day. His OPS+ in 1903 is 91 and for 1904, 69. He's signed for 1903 and 1904 at $3.0 million per year.

    I'm looking for a pitcher who can provide a fair amount of innings.

    Any interest out there?

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    The Express have decided to entertain offers for Honus Wagner. If interested, PM me. Of course, Patsy Donovan and Bill Keister are still being offered in trade as well.
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    I can't imagine what the price might be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade8813 View Post
    Scoops Carey, Kitty Bransfield, Art Nichols, Gus Dorner, Peaches Graham, and Warren McLaughlin should not be on my roster any more

    Otto Krueger should be.
    Pretty sure you traded Krueger to me before 1902.

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    Inmates Roster

    Player Contract 1903
    1 Casey, Doc 1901-R12-4 2.000
    2 Clark, Boileryard 1901-R10-3 2.000
    3 Davis, Harry 1901-R04-6 7.000
    4 Donovan, Bill 1901-R03-5 8.000
    5 Evans, Roy 1902-03FA 5.500
    6 Hemphill, Charlie 1901-R11-3 2.000
    7 Hess, Otto 1902-R01-12 2.000
    8 Hulswitt, Rudy 1902-04 FA 5.000
    9 Lajoie, Nap 1901-R01-8 15.000
    10 McCormick, Barry 1901-R19-3 0.750
    11 McFarland, Chappie1902-R03-5 0.500
    12 McFarland, Herm 1901-R08-3 3.000
    13 O'Neill, Mike 1901-R09-4 2.000
    14 Phelps, Ed 1902-R02-5 1.000
    15 Piatt, Wiley 1901-R13-3 1.000
    16 Reidy, Bill 1901-R15-3 1.000
    17 Ryan, Jimmy 1902-03 FA 15.000
    18 Smoot, Homer 1902-R01-5 2.500
    19 Strang, Sammy 1901-R06-3 5.000
    20 Thomas, Roy 1901-R02-8 10.000
    TOTAL 90.250




    Missing from database are Evans, McCormick, Reidy. will keep placeholder for Otto Hess who DNP 1903

    ONLY have 9.750 !?!?!?
    Last edited by buppers; 11-30-2012 at 01:43 PM.
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    To free up payroll the following are on trading block - PM me

    Jimmy Ryan, Rudy Hulswitt, Roy Evans and Sammy Strang.
    There are 10 kinds of people. Those who get binary and those who don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik Bedard View Post
    Pretty sure you traded Krueger to me before 1902.
    Weird. I had him deleted from my roster on my computer, yet somehow not on BBF. But the one on BBF should have just been Copy + Pasted from my Word document.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buppers View Post
    Player Contract 1903
    1 Casey, Doc 1901-R12-4 2.000
    2 Clark, Boileryard 1901-R10-3 2.000
    3 Davis, Harry 1901-R04-6 7.000
    4 Donovan, Bill 1901-R03-5 8.000
    5 Evans, Roy 1902-03FA 5.500
    6 Hallman, Bill 1901-R16-3 1.000
    7 Hemphill, Charlie 1901-R11-3 2.000
    8 Hess, Otto 1902-R01-12 2.000
    9 Hulswitt, Rudy 1902-04 FA 5.000
    10 Lajoie, Nap 1901-R01-8 15.000
    11 McCormick, Barry 1901-R19-3 0.750
    12 McFarland, Chappie 1902-R03-5 0.500
    13 McFarland, Herm 1901-R08-3 3.000
    14 O'Neill, Mike 1901-R09-4 2.000
    15 Phelps, Ed 1902-R02-5 1.000
    16 Piatt, Wiley 1901-R13-3 1.000
    17 Reidy, Bill 1901-R15-3 1.000
    18 Ryan, Jimmy 1902=03 FA 15.000
    19 Smoot, Homer 1902-R01-5 2.500
    20 Strang, Sammy 1901-R06-3 5.000
    21 Thomas, Roy 1901-R02-8 10.000
    PENALTY
    TOTAL 91.250

    Missing from database are Evans, McCormick, Reidy will keep placeholder for Otto Hess who DNP 1903

    ONLY have 8.750 !?!?!?
    There are 2 Bill Hallman's who played in 1903 . . . which one is on your roster?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    There are 2 Bill Hallman's who played in 1903 . . . which one is on your roster?
    You know - I drafted BOTH Bill Hallmans in 1901. After looking on spreadsheet I see I did not keep either one after 1901. Please remove him from roster. I am now proud owner of ZERO Bill Hallmans. Will edit roster in this thread

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    If I counted correctly, there is one team that hasn't posted their roster here. If we get that, is there an easy way to compile that into one list with stats? If not, I have a LOT of research ahead of me.

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    Trade Announcement

    The Kumquats and the Express have reached terms on a major trade. The Dust Bunnies get Honus Wagner (15M, signed through 1908), Express #2 pick in 1905 and Express #3 pick in 1906. The Express receive back Nick Altrock (14.5M, signed through 1906); Monte Cross (1M, signed through 1903), and the Dust Bunnies first round picks in 1903, 1905 and 1907.

    Jack will confirm.
    Last edited by catcher24; 12-01-2012 at 08:15 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by catcher24 View Post
    the dust bunnies and the express have reached terms on a major trade. The dust bunnies get honus wagner (15m, signed through 1908), express #2 pick in 1905 and express #3 pick in 1906. The express receive back nick altrock (14.5m, signed through 1906); monte cross (1m, signed through 1903), and the dust bunnies first round picks in 1903, 1905 and 1907.

    Jack will confirm.
    wow !!!!!!! 3 First Rounders !!! The good - Honus out of division. The bad - 3 First round Draft picks.
    Maybe I should offer up Nap again
    Last edited by buppers; 12-01-2012 at 08:25 AM.
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    With that trade complete, the Express are now offering Nick Altrock for trade. Altrock has only 79 IP this year with a 101 OPS+/ 1.20 WHIP. In 1903 he has 83/1.05/307IP (had to really pitch in some bad luck there, with a WHIP that low and only allowing 2 HR). He then has excellent years in 1905 (131/1.07/316) and 1906 (123/1.08/288). If interested, PM me.
    You see, you spend a good deal of your life gripping a baseball and in the end it turns out that it was the other way around all the time. J. Bouton

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    Quote Originally Posted by catcher24 View Post
    The Kumquats and the Express have reached terms on a major trade. The Dust Bunnies get Honus Wagner (15M, signed through 1908), Express #2 pick in 1905 and Express #3 pick in 1906. The Express receive back Nick Altrock (14.5M, signed through 1906); Monte Cross (1M, signed through 1903), and the Dust Bunnies first round picks in 1903, 1905 and 1907.

    Jack will confirm.
    Not only is this trade a blockbuster but it defies the laws of the space-time continium by sending Wagner 80 years into the future to play on the 1982 DustBunny squad. I cant wait to see how he stacks up against modern pitching
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade8813 View Post
    If I counted correctly, there is one team that hasn't posted their roster here. If we get that, is there an easy way to compile that into one list with stats? If not, I have a LOT of research ahead of me.
    really the only way to compose a list of rookies is to check out the 1903 new debut list on baseballreference.com

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...3-debuts.shtml
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    I will post a list of available free agents as soon as I have everyones rosters updated
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    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    really the only way to compose a list of rookies is to check out the 1903 new debut list on baseballreference.com

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/le...3-debuts.shtml
    Quote Originally Posted by rmadachik View Post
    I will post a list of available free agents as soon as I have everyones rosters updated
    Yeah, I already know about the New Debuts thing. I'm just hoping for the FA list, so I don't have to do a million years of research (the missing roster would only help with FAs anyway)

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