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  1. #41
    Guys I am sorry = have been on pins and needles the last week or so

    I accepted a really nice job and was supposed to start last Friday and had about 6 work days to do 2 weeks of home study before I traveled to the east coast for a week of training but due to delays on the company's end , I am now only starting tomorrow and will have all of 3 business days to do 2 weeks of home study

    SO I will submit my roster for the 1965 Giants and then will have to ask someone else to finish the last part of the league, mainly the two rounds of votes/sims

    Anyone?
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    1965 San Francisco Giants Final Roster (stats to be added later today)

    ROTATION
    1965 Sandy Koufax 26-8 2.04 ERA
    335.2 IP 216 H 382 K 7 BB 26 HR 160 ERA+ 0.855 WHIP 27 CG 8 SHO 2 S
    1965 Juan Marichal 22-13 2.14 ERA
    295.1 IP 224 H 240 K 46 BB 27 HR 169 ERA+ 0.914 WHIP 24 CG 10 SHO 2 S
    1966 Gaylord Perry 21-8 2.99 ERA
    255.2 IP 242 H 201 K 40 BB 15 HR 124 ERA+ 1.103 WHIP 13 CG 3 SHO
    1965 Bob Shaw 16-9 2.64 ERA
    235 IP 213 H 148 K 53 BB 17 HR 137 ERA+ 1.132 WHIP 6 CG 1 S 2 SHO

    STARTERS/RELIEVERS
    1965 Ron Herbel 12-9 3.85 ERA
    170.2 IP 172 H 106 K 46 BB 16 HR 94 ERA+ 1.283 WHIP 1 CG 1 S
    1965 Jack Sanford 4-5 3.96 ERA
    91 IP 92H 43 K 30 BB 11 HR 92 ERA+ 1.341 WHIP 2 S


    BULLPEN
    1965 Bobby Bolin 14-6 2.76 ERA
    163 IP 125 H 135 K 56 BB 17 HR 131 ERA+1.110 WHIP 2 CG 2 S
    1965 Masanori Murakami 4-1 3.75 ERA
    74.1 IP 57 H 85 K 22 BB 9 HR 97 ERA+ 1.063 WHIP 8 S
    1965 Bill Henry[/B] 2-2 3.64 ERA
    42 IP 40 H 35 K 8 BB 2 HR 100 ERA+ 1.143 WHIP 4 S
    1965 Frank Linzy 9-3 1.43 ERA
    81.2 IP 76 H 35 K 23 BB 2 HR 253 ERA+ 1.212 WHIP 21 S



    1. 1965 Pete Rose 2B
    757 PA 670 AB .312 BA 11 HR 11 3B 35 2B 117 R 81 RBI 69 BB .382 OB .446 SA 127 OPS+
    2. 1965 Billy Williams LF
    719 PA 645 AB .315 BA 34 HR 6 3B 39 2B 115 R 108 RBI 65 BB .377 OB .552 SA 157 OPS+
    3. 1965 Willie Mays CF
    638 PA 558 AB .317 BA 52 HR 3 3B 21 2B 118 R 112 RBI 76 BB .398 OB .645 SA 185 OPS+
    4. 1965 Willie McCovey 1B
    639 PA 540 AB .276 BA 39 HR 4 3B 17 2B 93 R 92 RBI 88 BB .381 OB .539 SA 153 OPS+
    5. 1965 Hank Aaron RF
    639 PA 570 AB .318 BA 32 HR 1 3B 40 2B109 R 89 RBI 60 BB .379 OB .560 SA 161 OPS+
    6. 1965 Ron Santo 3B
    704 PA 608 AB .285 BA 33 HR 4 3B 30 2B 88 R 101 RBI 88 BB .378 OB .510 SA 146 OPS+
    7. 1965 Tom Haller C
    486 PA 422 AB .251 BA 16 HR 3 3B 4 2B 40 R 49 RBI 47 BB .335 OB .389 SA 101 OPS+
    8. 1965 Maury Wills SS
    711 PA 650 AB .286 BA 0 HR 7 3B 14 2B 92 R 33 RBI .330 OB .329 SA 93 OPS+ 94 SB

    R 1965 Jack Hiatt
    80 PA 67 AB .284 BA 1 HR 0 3B 4 2B 5 R 7 RBI .392 OB .388 SA 119 OPS+
    R 1964 Orlando Cepeda
    588 PA 529 AB .304 31 HR 2 3B 27 2B 75 R 97 RBI 43 BB .361 OB .529 SA 148 OPS+
    R 1965 Jim Davenport
    302 PA 271 AB .251 BA 4 HR 3 3B 14 2B 29 R 31 RBI 21 BB .304 OB .369 SA 87 OPS+
    R 1965 Jim Ray Hart
    649 PA 591 AB .299 23 HR 6 3B 30 2B 91 R 96 RBI 47 BB .349 OB .487 SA 131 OPS+
    R 1965 Len Gabrielson* combined stats
    356 PA 317 AB .293 BA 7 HR 5 3B 6 2B 40 R 31 RBI 33 BB .362 OB .410 SA 115 OPS+
    R 1965 Jesus Alou
    567 PA 543 AB .298 9 HR 4 3B 19 2B 76 R 52 RBI 13 BB .317 OB .398 SA 98 OPS+
    R 1965 Cap Peterson
    117 PA 105 AB .248 3 HR 0 3B 7 2B 14 R 15 RBI 10 BB .310 OB .400 SA 97 OPS+
    Last edited by 9RoyHobbsRF; 12-04-2012 at 03:46 PM.
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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    It was fun making the rosters but It's pretty tough to pick a winner. If I had to choose which team was the best other than my 1931 Athletics, I would probably go with Bigrons 1953 Brooklyn Dodger team. That 1927 Yankees team would be up there too.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    It was fun making the rosters but It's pretty tough to pick a winner. If I had to choose which team was the best other than my 1931 Athletics, I would probably go with Bigrons 1953 Brooklyn Dodger team. That 1927 Yankees team would be up there too.
    cool

    just remember we pick league winners first then have a world series winner
    1. The more I learn, the more convinced I am that many players are over-rated due to inflated stats from offensive home parks (and eras)
    2. Strat-O-Matic Baseball Player, Collector and Hobbyist since 1969, visit my strat site: http://forums.delphiforums.com/GamersParadise
    3. My table top gaming blog: http://cary333.blogspot.com/

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    Are we in fact going to use a simulator? It might be easier than trying to rank all these teams by ourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ian2813 View Post
    Are we in fact going to use a simulator? It might be easier than trying to rank all these teams by ourselves.
    I don't know what a sim really is but Tyrus did one in the last draft we had for the fun of it.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

  7. #47
    Well, this draft really died. I think the week-long wait made a lot of people lose interest. Are we going to vote, or does someone have a simulator that can just declare the winners for us? Didn't Ben Grimm say he had a simulator that we might be able to use?

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    It would be interesting to find out who won and I think a sim would be the best way to go with this one.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Yeah, it's easy to forget/lose interest/miss the deadlines when they're so far apart, and almost no posts were made. I still haven't even figured out my finalized roster because I got so caught up in other things. I'll get it up soon.

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    1958 Braves Modified Roster

    Johnny Logan ------> Drop for Ernie Banks
    Bill Bruton----------> Drop for Willie Mays
    Gene Conley -------> Drop for Sam Jones
    Andy Pafko --------> Drop for Stan Musial
    Bob Trowbridge ----> Drop for Stu Miller

    Red Schoendienst --> Red Schoendienst 1957
    Eddie Mathews -----> Eddie Mathews 1959
    Hank Aaron --------> Hank Aaron 1959
    Bob Buhl -----------> Bob Buhl 1959

    C Del Crandall
    1B Stan Musial
    2B Red Schoendienst
    SS Ernie Banks
    3B Eddie Mathews
    LF Wes Covington
    OF Hank Aaron
    CF Willie Mays

    (C) Del Rice
    (1B) Frank Torre
    (2B) Mel Roach
    (2, S, OF) Felix Mantilla
    (1B/LF) Joe Adcock
    (SS) Joe Koppe

    SP Sam Jones
    SP Warren Spahn
    SP Stu Miller
    SP Lew Burdette
    SP Carl Willey
    SP Joey Jay

    RP Humberto Robinson
    RP Don McMahon
    RP Bob Rush
    RP Bob Buhl
    RP Juan Pizarro
    Last edited by Wade8813; 12-08-2012 at 03:42 PM.

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    This is virtually impossible to vote on. Vote for a mid-level team with selections to make them decent? Or go with the superstar team only getting more superstars. I liked the premise, but the backend is too subjective imo, and basically will be a runaway by whomever simply took the best team to work with.

    As so far as a sim, I have OOTP, but cannot figure out how to add players & teams and such. If anybody can help, it'd be much appreciated.
    "Chuckie doesn't take on 2-0. Chuckie's hackin'." - Chuck Carr two days prior to being released by the Milwaukee Brewers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    This is virtually impossible to vote on. Vote for a mid-level team with selections to make them decent? Or go with the superstar team only getting more superstars. I liked the premise, but the backend is too subjective imo, and basically will be a runaway by whomever simply took the best team to work with.

    As so far as a sim, I have OOTP, but cannot figure out how to add players & teams and such. If anybody can help, it'd be much appreciated.
    I think the 1931 A's win it....kidding, yeah its pretty tough to vote for this one.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    I think the 1931 A's win it....kidding, yeah its pretty tough to vote for this one.
    It's more than tough IMO. It's way too subjective as to what one wants to look at as a voter.

    If I simply vote based on best teams overall, I get one result. If I vote on creativity, problem solving and such it's the absolute opposite.

    On a 1-7 scale, that's 28 maximum points available. I give every team a 4 and call it a tie and just some fun to do during a slow period.
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    Ohh. I just thought of something that could have been really sweet in doing this. Remember when we selected draft slots? What if, instead of selecting where to draft, each team would get a random team who they'd choose a franchise for? Maybe I had the #1 selection with ChiSox as the team I need to find a franchise in which he has to improve. Maybe as the #1 pick I give him the '62 Mets to work with....?

    That to me would be interesting becuase we'd all likely start with dogmeat teams and try to make them viable. But hindsight is always 20/20.

    If I had to give a team to Johnny Shoes, it'd be a light-hitting, heavy-pitching team lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    It's more than tough IMO. It's way too subjective as to what one wants to look at as a voter.

    If I simply vote based on best teams overall, I get one result. If I vote on creativity, problem solving and such it's the absolute opposite.

    On a 1-7 scale, that's 28 maximum points available. I give every team a 4 and call it a tie and just some fun to do during a slow period.
    Yeah I have no problem with that, hopefully this draft didn't burn anyone out if we do a original type draft.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    Yeah I have no problem with that, hopefully this draft didn't burn anyone out if we do a original type draft.
    Won't burn me out. I'm always up for a draft - especially now that it's getting colder.
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    It may have been easier to choose if we were only able to choose only last place teams with the same guidelines.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicagowhitesox1173 View Post
    It may have been easier to choose if we were only able to choose only last place teams with the same guidelines.
    Or we go by what I mentioned above and I get to give you the 1970 chisox!!!!!!!! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    Or we go by what I mentioned above and I get to give you the 1970 chisox!!!!!!!! lol
    I think I would be giving you the 1961 Phillies. Maybe the 42 Phillies.
    "(Shoeless Joe Jackson's fall from grace is one of the real tragedies of baseball. I always thought he was more sinned against than sinning." -- Connie Mack

    "I have the ultimate respect for Whitesox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Redsox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country."--Jim Caple, ESPN (Jan. 12, 2011)

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    I think it's very simple- we just didn't have anybody to drive us to the finish line. If Roy could have stayed around, we'd have our winners by now.

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