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Thread: If you had a vote, how would you deal with guys like McGwire, Sosa, Bonds, ect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanTheMan View Post
    No. Illegal in the USA without a Rx

    Encouraged by MLB? One could take that approac as they were not in the collective bargaining agreement, but it's clearer now that is a Union issue more than a MLB issue. Regardless, beating a player with a bat during BP so he can't play against you that night is not in the Collective Bargaining Agreement, but the laws of the country surround assault and battery would supercede that of the CBA. Illegal steroids in the USA suddenly did not become "ok" because it was not part of a CBA... and Fay Vincent outlawed them anyway. I beleive Kuhn has some language about them as well.

    With no testing allowed by the CBA due the union, it was up to the players to follow the rules and laws. If they didn't then that is on them.
    So steroids with an Rx are OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven Gallanter View Post
    So steroids with an Rx are OK?
    Why would you suggest that? Getting it from my post and putting the words in my mouth is ridiculous, and quite a leap. But, perhaps I've misunderstood...

    Are you talking just ballplayers, or people in general. If a grocery stock boy at the local market was prescribed HGH by his Doctor for a legit medical reason, he's good to go. If his coworker buys it on the black market and has to pay cash to a guy who goes by nickname only and receives product with no markings, do you think law enforcement would treat the two the same?

    Some ballplayers DID receive PED's from doctors who prescribed them. MLB has treated them differently, one could say. Consider....


    "_________ has stated he's not violated any baseball rules. He has not violated any federal or state laws,'' said his agent, Scott Boras. "He only has followed the course of treatment prescribed by his medical doctors during the course of his career."

    _____'s HGH prescriptions, including Saizen and Genotropin, were signed by Florida physician William Gogan, who provided them through a Palm Beach Gardens clinic called The Health and Rejuvenation Center, or THARC, the Daily News reported.


    The above player was never suspended. MLB cited "insufficient evidence" despite the distribution center being raided by Feds more than once and illegal distribution taking place there. MLB suspended other players for 2004 use such as Gibbons and Guillen but not the player mentioned above. Read more here.
    Last edited by StanTheMan; 12-04-2012 at 10:46 AM.
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