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    Indians sign Scott Kazmir to a minor league deal. Mariners sign Jeremy Bonderman to a minor league deal.

    1. I wonder if they meet up in a game, would it be 2006 throwback night?
    2. To my surprise, Bonderman is only 30 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue387 View Post
    Indians sign Scott Kazmir to a minor league deal. Mariners sign Jeremy Bonderman to a minor league deal.

    1. I wonder if they meet up in a game, would it be 2006 throwback night?
    2. To my surprise, Bonderman is only 30 years old.
    I forgot about Scott Kazmir. Unfortunatly the only thing I remember of him is that he went from pretty good to pretty bad, pretty quick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoltan View Post
    I forgot about Scott Kazmir. Unfortunatly the only thing I remember of him is that he went from pretty good to pretty bad, pretty quick.
    So happy the Rays dumped him when they did.

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    The Diamondbacks signed two pitchers who most people probably thought were long gone...Nelson Figueroa and Warner Madrigal.

    The Orioles signed Adam Greenberg to a minor league contract. Wouldn't it be something if he got a major league job?

    Apparently Corky Miller is still around as he signed with the Reds, who he has spent most of his career with.

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    Former Brewer, Pirate and Yankee Casey McGehee joins Andruw Jones after signing a one-year deal with the Rakuten Golden Eagles in Japan.
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    League source: Cody Ross has reached agreement with Diamondbacks on a three-year deal.
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    Can this be real? The Indians offered Nick Swisher a 4 year deal worth 52 million and he's still considering it? Mind boggling!

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    Can this be real? The Indians offered Nick Swisher a 4 year deal worth 52 million and he's still considering it? Mind boggling!

    https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm/...44569244057601

    4 years, 13 mil per year when BJ Upton got 5 years 15 per year? Darn right I'd put that in the "consider it" stage.

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    Cody Ross' deal is reportedly 3 years / $26M which includes a fourth year option w/ $1M buyout. Arizona's now expected to push for a Kubel trade and Jon Heyman is saying there are a few teams interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamtheBravesFan View Post
    4 years, 13 mil per year when BJ Upton got 5 years 15 per year? Darn right I'd put that in the "consider it" stage.
    It's sad that someone else gets paid too much Swisher is suddenly worth 4 years. Neither should be given more than 3. I remember when 4 and 5 year deals were reserved to the elite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    It's sad that someone else gets paid too much Swisher is suddenly worth 4 years. Neither should be given more than 3. I remember when 4 and 5 year deals were reserved to the elite.
    Well, so do I, but such is the nature of the market today. If Swisher drops the ball here and ends up taking a lesser offer, it's his own fault.

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    Mark Feinsand‏ @FeinsandNYDN

    League source: Cody Ross has reached agreement with Diamondbacks on a three-year deal.
    D-Backs love them some OFers

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Knight View Post
    Can this be real? The Indians offered Nick Swisher a 4 year deal worth 52 million and he's still considering it? Mind boggling!

    https://twitter.com/JimBowdenESPNxm/...44569244057601
    I'd gobble him up at that price.

    Dodgers paid Ethier 85 million over 5 years, and Swish is the better player.

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    ESPN in Boston saying the Sox are very close to acquring Joel Hanrahan from the Pirates. He's supposedly going to be Boston's primary closer. I believe Hanrahan is in his final year of arbitration after making approximately $4M last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by filihok View Post
    D-Backs love them some OFers
    Texas is said to still want Upton, but if I'm AZ, I want quite a haul. The Rangers lost alot of proven power with Hamilton & Napoli leaving, and have very little power from the left side anymore. Maybe they work a deal for Kubel while moving lesser prospects than it would cost to get Upton.

    EDIT: Or maybe the D'Backs simply go with a LF platoon...

    Ross vs LHP .295 / 1.010 OPS
    Ross vs RHP .256 / .729 OPS

    Kubel vs LHP .234 / .736 OPS
    Kubel vs RHP .264 / .888 OPS

    ...and maybe move someone like Parra for bullpen help or something.
    Last edited by Ben Grimm; 12-22-2012 at 12:33 PM.
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    Maybe Swisher doesn't want to spend 4 years of his life in Cleveland. Cleveland isn't going to further his wife's acting career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    Cody Ross' deal is reportedly 3 years / $26M which includes a fourth year option w/ $1M buyout. Arizona's now expected to push for a Kubel trade and Jon Heyman is saying there are a few teams interested.
    Not sure i really grt this move...kubel played pretty well last year, and dont see him as the issue...they got more out of him than they expected

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    Texas is said to still want Upton, but if I'm AZ, I want quite a haul. The Rangers lost alot of proven power with Hamilton & Napoli leaving, and have very little power from the left side anymore. Maybe they work a deal for Kubel while moving lesser prospects than it would cost to get Upton.

    EDIT: Or maybe the D'Backs simply go with a LF platoon...

    Ross vs LHP .295 / 1.010 OPS
    Ross vs RHP .256 / .729 OPS

    Kubel vs LHP .234 / .736 OPS
    Kubel vs RHP .264 / .888 OPS

    ...and maybe move someone like Parra for bullpen help or something.
    That's an expensive platoon.
    Kubel @ $7.5 million + Ross at $8.7 million (26/3) = $16.2 million

    I see you used splits from 2012. Due to the small number of at bats in a partial season, it's better to use career or 3-year splits.

    Ross vs L in his career is 40% better than a league average hitter (141 wRC+) and 8% worse than average vs righties (92 wRC+)
    Kubel vs R in his career is 20% better than a league average hitter (120 wRC+) and 15% worse than average vs lefties (85 wRC+)

    From that view point a platoon would make sense. But I can't imagine that they're paying Ross $8 million to play about 30% of the time.

    In my opinion, Parra is the best player. I'd play him in LF and dump both of these guys. That'd free up a lot of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Grimm View Post
    Texas is said to still want Upton, but if I'm AZ, I want quite a haul. The Rangers lost alot of proven power with Hamilton & Napoli leaving, and have very little power from the left side anymore. Maybe they work a deal for Kubel while moving lesser prospects than it would cost to get Upton.

    EDIT: Or maybe the D'Backs simply go with a LF platoon...

    Ross vs LHP .295 / 1.010 OPS
    Ross vs RHP .256 / .729 OPS

    Kubel vs LHP .234 / .736 OPS
    Kubel vs RHP .264 / .888 OPS

    ...and maybe move someone like Parra for bullpen help or something.
    I really hope the jason kubel is not the answer to the question who replaces hamilton and napoli

    even if texas gets upton AND kubel that team is still a lot weaker than the 2012 team which missed the playoffs ( I don't call that one game face off "playoffs")
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