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  1. #251
    Kelsie coached my kid, and also made the Team USA WNT roster which brought home the gold in the Pan Am games. She's very good. I know nothing about the other girl. I don't expect her to make the majors by any means, but she's not a hack. She's a damn good ball player.

  2. #252
    It was really sad to see that the USA is the only 2-1 team playing in the Consolation Round. Australia beat them out on Run Differential. We beat Taiwan 2-1, which also had a 2-1 record.

    SEPTEMBER 2-10, 2016 WOMEN’S WORLD CUP
    AT GIJANG-HYUNDAI DREAM BALLPARK (CAPACITY 28,000) IN GIJANG, SOUTH KOREA

    September 2
    Netherlands 9 India 2 before 150 fans at Dream Park 2
    USA 9 Hong Kong 1 before 50 fans at Dream Park 3
    South Korea 10 Pakistan 0 in 6 innings before 800 fans at
    Dream Main Park
    Venezuela 12 Cuba 0 in 5 innings before 100 fans at Dream
    Park 2
    Taiwan 12 Australia 4 before 250 fans at Dream Park 3
    Madonna Japan 8 Canada 2 before 800 fans at Dream Main Park

    September 3
    Venezuela 18 Pakistan 1 before 65 fans at Dream Park 2
    USA 2 Taiwan 1 before 700 fans at Dream Park 3
    Madonna Japan 12 Netherlands 0 before 700 fans at Dream Main
    Park
    Canada 18 India 4 before 50 fans at Dream Park 2
    Australia 13 Hong Kong 0 before 150 fans at Dream Park 3
    South Korea 4 Cuba 3 before 850 fans at Dream Main Park

    September 4
    Cuba 15 Pakistan 0 before 200 fans at Dream Park 2
    Australia 10 USA 2 before 800 fans at Dream Park 3
    Madonna Japan 18 India 0 before 550 fans at Dream Main
    Park
    Canada 7 Netherlands 1 before 50 fans at Dream Park 2
    Taiwan 13 Hong Kong 3 before 200 fans at Dream Park 3
    Venezuela 12 South Korea 1 before 1000 fans at Dream Main
    Park

    September 7
    Taiwan 11 South Korea 1 before 950 fans at Dream Main Park
    Venezuela vs. Japan at Dream Main Park
    Australia vs. Canada at Dream Main Park
    Cuba vs. Netherlands at Dream Park 2
    Hong Kong vs. India at Dream Park 3
    USA vs. Pakistan at Dream Park 2

    September 8
    South Korea vs. Australia at Dream Main Park
    Venezuela vs. Canada at Dream Main Park
    Japan vs. Taiwan at Dream Main Park
    Cuba vs. India at Dream Park 2
    Pakistan vs. Hong Kong at Dream Park 3
    Netherlands vs. USA at Dream Park 2

    September 9
    Canada vs. South Korea at Dream Main Park
    Taiwan vs. Venezuela at Dream Main Park
    Japan vs. Australia at Dream Main Park
    India vs. Pakistan at Dream Park 2
    USA vs. Cuba at Dream Park 3
    Netherlands vs. Hong Kong at Dream Park 2

    September 10
    Taiwan vs. Canada at Dream Main Park
    Japan vs. South Korea at Dream Main Park
    Venezuela vs. Australia at Dream Main Park
    USA vs. India at Dream Park 2
    Cuba vs. Hong Kong at Dream Park 3
    Netherlands vs. Pakistan at Dream Park 2

    Bronze Medal Game

    Gold Medal Game

    Final Standings
    Japan 3-0 /
    Venezuela 3-0 /
    Australia 2-1 /
    Canada 2-1 /
    South Korea 2-1 / 0-1 //
    Taiwan 2-1 / 1-0 //

    USA 2-1 /
    Cuba 1-2 /
    Netherlands 1-2 /
    Hong Kong 0-3 /
    India 0-3 /
    Pakistan 0-3 /

  3. #253
    I think that the biggest surprise at the Women's World Cup in
    Gijang City, South Korea is the Venezuelan team, winning the
    Bronze Medal with a 6-2 record. I remember sitting amidst their
    Women's Team at the July 2015 Pan Am Games in Ajax, Canada,
    and, with a dismal 2-3 record, they were a dis-spirited group.
    Things have sure changed for the better for their team.

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    Anyone else see the promo for this yesterday during football on Fox?

    "Pitch", in association with MLB, about the first woman in the majors...touted as a "story on the verge of happening."

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5500158/?ref_=nv_sr_3

  5. #255
    In theory a woman could become a MLB pitcher. there are women who would be capable to throw 85-86 with the right Training and there are MLB pitcher who succeeded with that.

    the Problem is that those mid 80s for a woman is in the upper 0.1%, basically like a 100 mph with men. to succeed with mid 80s like buehrle in his 30s you Need to be basically top notch in everything else. top command, great pitcher D, good running came Controlling, of course secondary pitches.

    So what is the Chance that a starter throws 100 (or 85 with a woman) AND is also fantastic at the other stuff? That guy (100 mph plus great at everything else) has never been there and if he was he would be clearly the best pitcher ever (and likely most valuable Player ever even exceeding Ruth if he would do that for 15 years).

    If there was a woman throwing 86 just by Chance it is more likely that her other skills (BB, defense, Holding runners) is more like Randy Johnson in his prime.

    And a pitcher throwing 86 with Randy Johnsons "secondary skills" is not going to survive. that means for a woman to do as well as buehrle she literally Needs to be the most talented Baseball Player ever. of course buehrle is not the worst Player (109 ERA+ from 11-15 when his Velo was that low) but he also depressed an average FIP by historic run game Controlling and pitcher D. there is a Little leeway down from buehrle but only a tiny hair.
    I now have my own non commercial blog about training for batspeed and power using my training experience in baseball and track and field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dominik View Post
    In theory a woman could become a MLB pitcher. there are women who would be capable to throw 85-86 with the right Training and there are MLB pitcher who succeeded with that.

    the Problem is that those mid 80s for a woman is in the upper 0.1%, basically like a 100 mph with men. to succeed with mid 80s like buehrle in his 30s you Need to be basically top notch in everything else. top command, great pitcher D, good running came Controlling, of course secondary pitches.

    So what is the Chance that a starter throws 100 (or 85 with a woman) AND is also fantastic at the other stuff? That guy (100 mph plus great at everything else) has never been there and if he was he would be clearly the best pitcher ever (and likely most valuable Player ever even exceeding Ruth if he would do that for 15 years).

    If there was a woman throwing 86 just by Chance it is more likely that her other skills (BB, defense, Holding runners) is more like Randy Johnson in his prime.

    And a pitcher throwing 86 with Randy Johnsons "secondary skills" is not going to survive. that means for a woman to do as well as buehrle she literally Needs to be the most talented Baseball Player ever. of course buehrle is not the worst Player (109 ERA+ from 11-15 when his Velo was that low) but he also depressed an average FIP by historic run game Controlling and pitcher D. there is a Little leeway down from buehrle but only a tiny hair.
    Good post. This makes sense. Greg Maddux could throw 93, but had to sacrifice control. The Maddux we watched often threw 87-88 mph fastballs, which allowed him be be that perfect pitcher.

    Pete Alexander was also known to throw a medium fastball as well. But he, like Maddux, had nearly perfect control, and wide variety of pitches(Honus Wagner said he wrote them down and there were 9), and great pitching chops to boot.

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    If women can't compete with men in pro golf I can't see how a woman can hold her own in the majors.
    Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls - it's more democratic.-Crash Davis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honus Wagner Rules View Post
    If women can't compete with men in pro golf I can't see how a woman can hold her own in the majors.
    Well, Annika Sorenstam did better than 11 men when she played in a 2003 PGA tournament.

  9. #259
    There are many milestones on the inevitable path to seeing the first female
    Major League Baseball player, and the latest happened this past week at the World Baseball Classic Qualifier in Brooklyn, New York:

    FIRST FEMALES IN THE NEGRO LEAGUES - three women players in the 1950's

    FIRST FEMALE MINOR LEAGUE PITCHER - Ila Borders from 1997-2000, I saw her pitch

    FIRST MINOR LEAGUE TEAM TO HAVE MORE THAN ONE FEMALES ON THE ROSTER - Kelsie Whitmore, Stacy Piagno - Sonoma Stompers

    FIRST FEMALE TO PITCH BATTING PRACTICE FOR AN MLB TEAM - JUSTINE SIEGAL

    FIRST FEMALE TO BE A MINOR LEAGUE COACH - JUSTINE SIEGAL

    FIRST FEMALE IN UNIFORM (# 15) AS A COACH ON A WORLD BASEBALL CLASSIC TEAM (ISRAEL) - JUSTINE SIEGAL

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